Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?

Op 27-09-2023 om 14:38 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?

Well, even if it does, you can still access the group on Usenet.

Another problem is, that to eliminate this spam, you need a very special
filter, based on the character set, or something.

A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 16:20:46 UTC+1, Enno Borgsteede escreveu:
> Op 27-09-2023 om 14:38 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
> Well, even if it does, you can still access the group on Usenet.
>
> Another problem is, that to eliminate this spam, you need a very special
> filter, based on the character set, or something.
I don't know how to access this newsgroup other than through Google Groups.

Op 27-09-2023 om 17:48 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 16:20:46 UTC+1, Enno Borgsteede escreveu:
>> Op 27-09-2023 om 14:38 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
>>> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
>> Well, even if it does, you can still access the group on Usenet.
>>
>> Another problem is, that to eliminate this spam, you need a very special
>> filter, based on the character set, or something.
> I don't know how to access this newsgroup other than through Google Groups.

I read it with Thunderbird, retrieving messages from a free news server
at nntp:news.eternal-september.org

But the trouble is, even when I tell Thunderbird to delete all messages
with fifa55 in the subject there are still dozens coming through,
because they use an alien character set.

So what I would really need here is a filter that deletes all messages
with non-English titles.

Or is that too xenophobic?

A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 13:38:58 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
I am reviving the idea I proposed in 2020 at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/-KKBjwN0FGc/m/4DXLDNf8AQAJ of creating a moderated subreddit to replace this newsgroup. While I wish to preserve the archive, I think the newsgroup may be too spam ridden to continue to be used.

Op 27-09-2023 om 22:16 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 13:38:58 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
>> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
> I am reviving the idea I proposed in 2020 at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/-KKBjwN0FGc/m/4DXLDNf8AQAJ of creating a moderated subreddit to replace this newsgroup. While I wish to preserve the archive, I think the newsgroup may be too spam ridden to continue to be used.

It wouldn't help me, because I'm allergic to web based forums. I can
read mail and news with a few keys, like N for the next unread message,
and Delete to send it to oblivion, and you can't beat that with a web
based 'forum', or Reddit, of Facebook, or anything like that.

Groups.io is mail based but not completely free, and I'm in a dozen
groups there, many of which were created after RootsWeb mail lists were
closed. It's web interface is just as easy as google groups, and until
now it's quite easy to keep the idiots out.

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Enno Borgsteede wrote:
> Op 27-09-2023 om 22:16 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 13:38:58 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> >> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
> > I am reviving the idea I proposed in 2020 at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/-KKBjwN0FGc/m/4DXLDNf8AQAJ of creating a moderated subreddit to replace this newsgroup. While I wish to preserve the archive, I think the newsgroup may be too spam ridden to continue to be used.
> It wouldn't help me, because I'm allergic to web based forums. I can
> read mail and news with a few keys, like N for the next unread message,
> and Delete to send it to oblivion, and you can't beat that with a web
> based 'forum', or Reddit, of Facebook, or anything like that.
>
> Groups.io is mail based but not completely free, and I'm in a dozen
> groups there, many of which were created after RootsWeb mail lists were
> closed. It's web interface is just as easy as google groups, and until
> now it's quite easy to keep the idiots out.

It's called 'report as abuse', and if you're using Google groups, it's under the three dots on the right in the message header, to the right of the reply button.
It's tedious when there are so many of them, though. (Thai online gambling spam!)

A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 00:44:24 UTC+1, pj.ev...@gmail.com escreveu:
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Enno Borgsteede wrote:
> > Op 27-09-2023 om 22:16 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > > A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 13:38:58 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> > >> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
> > > I am reviving the idea I proposed in 2020 at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/-KKBjwN0FGc/m/4DXLDNf8AQAJ of creating a moderated subreddit to replace this newsgroup. While I wish to preserve the archive, I think the newsgroup may be too spam ridden to continue to be used.
> > It wouldn't help me, because I'm allergic to web based forums. I can
> > read mail and news with a few keys, like N for the next unread message,
> > and Delete to send it to oblivion, and you can't beat that with a web
> > based 'forum', or Reddit, of Facebook, or anything like that.
> >
> > Groups.io is mail based but not completely free, and I'm in a dozen
> > groups there, many of which were created after RootsWeb mail lists were
> > closed. It's web interface is just as easy as google groups, and until
> > now it's quite easy to keep the idiots out.
> It's called 'report as abuse', and if you're using Google groups, it's under the three dots on the right in the message header, to the right of the reply button.
> It's tedious when there are so many of them, though. (Thai online gambling spam!)
Do you think Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup?

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:16:12 PM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
> A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 00:44:24 UTC+1, pj.ev...@gmail.com escreveu:
> > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Enno Borgsteede wrote:
> > > Op 27-09-2023 om 22:16 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > > > A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 13:38:58 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> > > >> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
> > > > I am reviving the idea I proposed in 2020 at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/-KKBjwN0FGc/m/4DXLDNf8AQAJ of creating a moderated subreddit to replace this newsgroup. While I wish to preserve the archive, I think the newsgroup may be too spam ridden to continue to be used.
> > > It wouldn't help me, because I'm allergic to web based forums. I can
> > > read mail and news with a few keys, like N for the next unread message,
> > > and Delete to send it to oblivion, and you can't beat that with a web
> > > based 'forum', or Reddit, of Facebook, or anything like that.
> > >
> > > Groups.io is mail based but not completely free, and I'm in a dozen
> > > groups there, many of which were created after RootsWeb mail lists were
> > > closed. It's web interface is just as easy as google groups, and until
> > > now it's quite easy to keep the idiots out.
> > It's called 'report as abuse', and if you're using Google groups, it's under the three dots on the right in the message header, to the right of the reply button.
> > It's tedious when there are so many of them, though. (Thai online gambling spam!)
> Do you think Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup?
One would think that Google Groups would figure out a way to block such spam rather than "nuking" the newgroup. I selected all of these messages and reported them as spam in Google Groups.

A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 02:46:27 UTC+1, Jan Wolfe escreveu:
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:16:12 PM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
> > A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 00:44:24 UTC+1, pj.ev....@gmail.com escreveu:
> > > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Enno Borgsteede wrote:
> > > > Op 27-09-2023 om 22:16 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > > > > A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 13:38:58 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> > > > >> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
> > > > > I am reviving the idea I proposed in 2020 at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/-KKBjwN0FGc/m/4DXLDNf8AQAJ of creating a moderated subreddit to replace this newsgroup. While I wish to preserve the archive, I think the newsgroup may be too spam ridden to continue to be used.
> > > > It wouldn't help me, because I'm allergic to web based forums. I can
> > > > read mail and news with a few keys, like N for the next unread message,
> > > > and Delete to send it to oblivion, and you can't beat that with a web
> > > > based 'forum', or Reddit, of Facebook, or anything like that.
> > > >
> > > > Groups.io is mail based but not completely free, and I'm in a dozen
> > > > groups there, many of which were created after RootsWeb mail lists were
> > > > closed. It's web interface is just as easy as google groups, and until
> > > > now it's quite easy to keep the idiots out.
> > > It's called 'report as abuse', and if you're using Google groups, it's under the three dots on the right in the message header, to the right of the reply button.
> > > It's tedious when there are so many of them, though. (Thai online gambling spam!)
> > Do you think Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup?
> One would think that Google Groups would figure out a way to block such spam rather than "nuking" the newgroup. I selected all of these messages and reported them as spam in Google Groups.
I just did that, too. However, Google Groups has historically nuked newsgroups that become too spam ridden. That not only prevents new posts but also deletes the entire archive.

On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 10:53:36 PM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
> A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 02:46:27 UTC+1, Jan Wolfe escreveu:
> > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:16:12 PM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
> > > A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 00:44:24 UTC+1, pj.ev...@gmail.com escreveu:
> > > > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Enno Borgsteede wrote:
> > > > > Op 27-09-2023 om 22:16 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > > > > > A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 13:38:58 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> > > > > >> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
> > > > > > I am reviving the idea I proposed in 2020 at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/-KKBjwN0FGc/m/4DXLDNf8AQAJ of creating a moderated subreddit to replace this newsgroup. While I wish to preserve the archive, I think the newsgroup may be too spam ridden to continue to be used.
> > > > > It wouldn't help me, because I'm allergic to web based forums. I can
> > > > > read mail and news with a few keys, like N for the next unread message,
> > > > > and Delete to send it to oblivion, and you can't beat that with a web
> > > > > based 'forum', or Reddit, of Facebook, or anything like that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Groups.io is mail based but not completely free, and I'm in a dozen
> > > > > groups there, many of which were created after RootsWeb mail lists were
> > > > > closed. It's web interface is just as easy as google groups, and until
> > > > > now it's quite easy to keep the idiots out.
> > > > It's called 'report as abuse', and if you're using Google groups, it's under the three dots on the right in the message header, to the right of the reply button.
> > > > It's tedious when there are so many of them, though. (Thai online gambling spam!)
> > > Do you think Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup?
> > One would think that Google Groups would figure out a way to block such spam rather than "nuking" the newgroup. I selected all of these messages and reported them as spam in Google Groups.
> I just did that, too. However, Google Groups has historically nuked newsgroups that become too spam ridden. That not only prevents new posts but also deletes the entire archive.

I think my brother-in-law Mohamad is responsible for this. He just came back from Thailand and he's crazy about anything Thai and gambling.

A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 03:53:36 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 02:46:27 UTC+1, Jan Wolfe escreveu:
> > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 9:16:12 PM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
> > > A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 00:44:24 UTC+1, pj.ev...@gmail.com escreveu:
> > > > On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 2:21:42 PM UTC-7, Enno Borgsteede wrote:
> > > > > Op 27-09-2023 om 22:16 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > > > > > A quarta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 13:38:58 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> > > > > >> Over the last several hours, this newsgroup has been targeted with a huge amount of spam. It's so much that I am afraid that Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup. What do you think?
> > > > > > I am reviving the idea I proposed in 2020 at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/-KKBjwN0FGc/m/4DXLDNf8AQAJ of creating a moderated subreddit to replace this newsgroup. While I wish to preserve the archive, I think the newsgroup may be too spam ridden to continue to be used.
> > > > > It wouldn't help me, because I'm allergic to web based forums. I can
> > > > > read mail and news with a few keys, like N for the next unread message,
> > > > > and Delete to send it to oblivion, and you can't beat that with a web
> > > > > based 'forum', or Reddit, of Facebook, or anything like that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Groups.io is mail based but not completely free, and I'm in a dozen
> > > > > groups there, many of which were created after RootsWeb mail lists were
> > > > > closed. It's web interface is just as easy as google groups, and until
> > > > > now it's quite easy to keep the idiots out.
> > > > It's called 'report as abuse', and if you're using Google groups, it's under the three dots on the right in the message header, to the right of the reply button.
> > > > It's tedious when there are so many of them, though. (Thai online gambling spam!)
> > > Do you think Google Groups will nuke the newsgroup?
> > One would think that Google Groups would figure out a way to block such spam rather than "nuking" the newgroup. I selected all of these messages and reported them as spam in Google Groups.
> I just did that, too. However, Google Groups has historically nuked newsgroups that become too spam ridden. That not only prevents new posts but also deletes the entire archive.
Since I reported them all last night, many more of those spam messages have been posted, multiple ones within a hour. I think the newsgroup is beyond saving.

I agree that unfortunately the newsgroup is beyond saving due to all the spam that has suddenly appeared within the past 24 hours. I estimate there is at least about 200 pieces of spam. Is there anyway that the archives could be saved?

I've revised my estimate of the amount of spam dumped on this list to 300-350.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 8:41:30 AM UTC-4, WADP wrote:
> I've revised my estimate of the amount of spam dumped on this list to 300-350.

If the usenet group was converted to moderated via an RFC, would the google group postings go through that moderation? I think so... Not sure how feasible that is though.

A reddit group is doomed to fail on its start.

--Joe C

Op 28-09-2023 om 14:45 schreef joseph cook:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 8:41:30 AM UTC-4, WADP wrote:
>> I've revised my estimate of the amount of spam dumped on this list to 300-350.
>
> If the usenet group was converted to moderated via an RFC, would the google group postings go through that moderation? I think so... Not sure how feasible that is though.

Seen from here, posting from an independent news server, it would be
lovely if Google just disconnected itself from usenet, so that the we
can rely on friendly sysops to take the right measures. And I say that,
because the message headers suggest that the spam comes from Google
itself, in the sense that the spammers abuse Google hardware.

This will of course mean that some here will need to look for
independent news servers, like the one that I use right now. And it will
also mean that you need a proper news reader, like Thunderbird.

Enno

A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 13:45:59 UTC+1, joseph cook escreveu:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 8:41:30 AM UTC-4, WADP wrote:
> > I've revised my estimate of the amount of spam dumped on this list to 300-350.
> If the usenet group was converted to moderated via an RFC, would the google group postings go through that moderation? I think so... Not sure how feasible that is though.
>
> A reddit group is doomed to fail on its start.
>
> --Joe C
Todd explained in 2018 at https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/yOMBCvd6UFo/m/0Z-KecOJBAAJ how it's effectively impossible to change an unmoderated Usenet group into a moderated one.
Why do you think a subreddit would be doomed to fail?

Op 28-09-2023 om 04:53 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:

> I just did that, too. However, Google Groups has historically nuked newsgroups that become too spam ridden. That not only prevents new posts but also deletes the entire archive.

Except that, because usenet is a distributed network, there may be
dozens of other servers that have their own archives. And in the old
times, there would be many more, but today most ISP's have stopped to
support usenet.

It does mean that you'd need to find another host that you can connect
to, and a news reader. And Thunderbird is great for that.

Enno

A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 14:08:45 UTC+1, Enno Borgsteede escreveu:
> Op 28-09-2023 om 04:53 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > I just did that, too. However, Google Groups has historically nuked newsgroups that become too spam ridden. That not only prevents new posts but also deletes the entire archive.
> Except that, because usenet is a distributed network, there may be
> dozens of other servers that have their own archives. And in the old
> times, there would be many more, but today most ISP's have stopped to
> support usenet.
>
> It does mean that you'd need to find another host that you can connect
> to, and a news reader. And Thunderbird is great for that.
>
> Enno
The Narkive archive only goes back to 2003.
Anyways, Usenet is a rather outdated system. I have always accessed this newsgroup through Google Groups and I don't plan to change.

A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 14:10:43 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 14:08:45 UTC+1, Enno Borgsteede escreveu:
> > Op 28-09-2023 om 04:53 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > > I just did that, too. However, Google Groups has historically nuked newsgroups that become too spam ridden. That not only prevents new posts but also deletes the entire archive.
> > Except that, because usenet is a distributed network, there may be
> > dozens of other servers that have their own archives. And in the old
> > times, there would be many more, but today most ISP's have stopped to
> > support usenet.
> >
> > It does mean that you'd need to find another host that you can connect
> > to, and a news reader. And Thunderbird is great for that.
> >
> > Enno
> The Narkive archive only goes back to 2003.
> Anyways, Usenet is a rather outdated system. I have always accessed this newsgroup through Google Groups and I don't plan to change.
I think most people here access this newsgroup through Google Groups and that if Google Groups nuked it, they would simply stop using it.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:19:52 AM UTC-7, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
> A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 14:10:43 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> > A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 14:08:45 UTC+1, Enno Borgsteede escreveu:
> > > Op 28-09-2023 om 04:53 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > > > I just did that, too. However, Google Groups has historically nuked newsgroups that become too spam ridden. That not only prevents new posts but also deletes the entire archive.
> > > Except that, because usenet is a distributed network, there may be
> > > dozens of other servers that have their own archives. And in the old
> > > times, there would be many more, but today most ISP's have stopped to
> > > support usenet.
> > >
> > > It does mean that you'd need to find another host that you can connect
> > > to, and a news reader. And Thunderbird is great for that.
> > >
> > > Enno
> > The Narkive archive only goes back to 2003.
> > Anyways, Usenet is a rather outdated system. I have always accessed this newsgroup through Google Groups and I don't plan to change.
> I think most people here access this newsgroup through Google Groups and that if Google Groups nuked it, they would simply stop using it.

If the group gets nuked, we won't be able to read it, because it won't exist.

PLEASE REPORT THE SPAM, INDIVIDUALLY, AS SPAM. Otherwise, they won't know it's going on.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 8:45:59 AM UTC-4, joseph cook wrote:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 8:41:30 AM UTC-4, WADP wrote:
> > I've revised my estimate of the amount of spam dumped on this list to 300-350.
> If the usenet group was converted to moderated via an RFC, would the google group postings go through that moderation? I think so... Not sure how feasible that is though.
>
> A reddit group is doomed to fail on its start.
>
> --Joe C

There is no obvious technical reason why the Google Group interface can't have a moderator assigned who can delete posts, right? Just the will of google to do so. Understand it would have no effect on usenet posts or visibility.

A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 14:38:57 UTC+1, pj.ev...@gmail.com escreveu:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:19:52 AM UTC-7, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
> > A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 14:10:43 UTC+1, Paulo Ricardo Canedo escreveu:
> > > A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 14:08:45 UTC+1, Enno Borgsteede escreveu:
> > > > Op 28-09-2023 om 04:53 schreef Paulo Ricardo Canedo:
> > > > > I just did that, too. However, Google Groups has historically nuked newsgroups that become too spam ridden. That not only prevents new posts but also deletes the entire archive.
> > > > Except that, because usenet is a distributed network, there may be
> > > > dozens of other servers that have their own archives. And in the old
> > > > times, there would be many more, but today most ISP's have stopped to
> > > > support usenet.
> > > >
> > > > It does mean that you'd need to find another host that you can connect
> > > > to, and a news reader. And Thunderbird is great for that.
> > > >
> > > > Enno
> > > The Narkive archive only goes back to 2003.
> > > Anyways, Usenet is a rather outdated system. I have always accessed this newsgroup through Google Groups and I don't plan to change.
> > I think most people here access this newsgroup through Google Groups and that if Google Groups nuked it, they would simply stop using it.
> If the group gets nuked, we won't be able to read it, because it won't exist.
>
> PLEASE REPORT THE SPAM, INDIVIDUALLY, AS SPAM. Otherwise, they won't know it's going on.
We will be able to read the newsgroup but not on Google Groups, we will have to use another Usenet providee.
As you yourself said, it's tedious to report so much spam.

A quinta-feira, 28 de setembro de 2023 à(s) 15:04:34 UTC+1, joseph cook escreveu:
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 8:45:59 AM UTC-4, joseph cook wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 8:41:30 AM UTC-4, WADP wrote:
> > > I've revised my estimate of the amount of spam dumped on this list to 300-350.
> > If the usenet group was converted to moderated via an RFC, would the google group postings go through that moderation? I think so... Not sure how feasible that is though.
> >
> > A reddit group is doomed to fail on its start.
> >
> > --Joe C
> There is no obvious technical reason why the Google Group interface can't have a moderator assigned who can delete posts, right? Just the will of google to do so. Understand it would have no effect on usenet posts or visibility.
Dear Joe, did you mean to reply to me?

Is it just me or are the rest of you experiencing this too, the removal of spam? I went through and marked as spam roughly 300-350 messages and when I checked to see if any more have been posted I discovered that all but four marked as spam have been removed. The four are marked as I having reported them as spam.