On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 11:50:40 AM UTC-8, Douglas Richardson wrote:
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> Following my recent post regarding the various marriages of Ela de Oddingseles, I realized that Ela de Oddingseles is the paternal grandmother of Sir Walter de Bermingham, husband of Elizabeth de Multon, and the great-grandmother of Sir Walter de Bermingham, husband of Margaret (or Margery) de Scales.
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> I've copied below my current file account of both Sir Walter de Bermingham's, both of whom are found in a pedigree chart of the Bermingham family in Complete Peerage 1 (1910): 298 (sub Athenry). The elder Sir Walter has modern descendants through his daughter, Margaret, wife of Robert de Preston, Knt., Lord of Gormanston, for whom see Complete Peerage 6 (1926): 18–19 (sub Gormanston). While the younger Walter de Bermingham left no issue, his widow, Margaret (or Margery) de Scales, married (2nd) Robert Howard, and is ancestral to the later Howards, Dukes of Norfolk, and Queen Katherine Howard, wife of King Henry VIII of England.
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> I note that Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 507 (sub Scales) mentions Margaret Scales, wife of Sir Robert Howard, but makes no mention of her marriage to Sir Walter de Bermingham.
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> Elsewhere I see there is a good pedigree of the Bermingham family including Ela de Oddingseles and members of her immediate family, including the two Walter der Bermingham's, and her later Preston descendants published in Betham, Dignities, Feudal & Parliamentary 1 (1830): 374 (Bermingham ped.). This pedigree can be found at the following weblink:
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> 14. ROBERT DE HAVERINGTON (or HARINGTON, HARYNGTON), Knt., of Aldingham, Lancashire, son and heir apparent of John de Haverington, Knt., 1st Lord Harington, of Harrington, Cumberland, Aldingham, Thurnham, Ulverston, and Urswick, Lancashire, by Joan, probable daughter of William de Dacre, Knt. He married in or before 1327 ELIZABETH DE MULTON, daughter and co-heiress of Thomas de Multon, Knt., 1st Lord Multon of Egremont, by Eleanor, daughter of Richard de Burgh, Knt., 3rd Earl of Ulster, lord of Connacht [see MULTON 8 for her ancestry]. She was born about 1306 (aged 28 in 1334). They had two sons, John, Knt., and Robert, Knt., and allegedly two daughters. In 1331 he was going to Ireland on the king’s service. SIR ROBERT DE HAVERINGTON died in Ireland in or before 1334. His widow, Elizabeth, married (2nd) in or before November 1334 WALTER DE BERMINGHAM (or BERMYNGHAM, BERMENGEAM, BIRMYNGHAM, BYRMYNGHAM), Knt., of Castle-Carbury, Carrick, and Thetmoy [or Monasteroris], co. Kildare, Ireland, Kells and Schanbo, co. Kilkenny, etc., Justiciar of Ireland, 1346–9, and, in right of his wife, of Algarkirk, Fleet, Moulton, and Weston, Lincolnshire, son and heir of William de Bermingham, Knt. [died 1332] [brother of John de Bermingham, Earl of Louth]..[1] They had one son, Walter, Knt., and one daughter, Margaret (wife of Robert de Preston, Knt., Lord of Gormanston). He was knighted by the Earl of Desmond in 1330. He and his father William were arrested by the Justiciar at Clonmel in 1332, and subsequently transferred to Dublin Castle. His wife, Elizabeth, was co-heiress in 1334 to her brother, John de Multon, Knt., 2nd Lord Multon of Egremont, by which she inherited an one-third interest in the manors of Moulton, Beausolace (in Algarkirk), Fleet, Kirkton, and Skirbeck, Lincolnshire, and Thurstan (in Hawkedon), Suffolk, as well as various manors in co. Limerick, Ireland. In 1337 Alan de Multon, steward of Joan widow of Robert Fitz Walter, Thomas de Lucy, and Walter de Bermyngham, trustees of lands and advowsons in Lincolnshire late of John de Multon, lord Egremont, presented to the church of Waddingham, Lincolnshire. In 1337 Walter de Byrmyngham acknowledged that he owed John de Wodehous, clerk, a debt of £8; to be levied, etc. in co. Lincoln. The same year Walter de Birmyngham, John Darcy ‘le cosyn,’ Elias de Assheburn, knights, and Nicholas de Snyterle, acknowledged that they owed the king £1000; to be levied, in default of payment, of their lands and chattels in co. Nottingham. He presented to the church of Algarkirk, Lincolnshire in 1338. In 1339 he and Elizabeth his wife conveyed to Robert de Rotington one-third of the manor of Ullayk and land in Braithwaite, Cumberland. In 1343 Maurice de Bermingham and Robert de Rotington conveyed one-third of the manor of Egremont, Cumberland to Walter and Elizabeth his wife. SIR WALTER DE BERMINGHAM died testate shortly before 16 September 1350. His wife, Elizabeth, died before 30 October 1350. In 1352 Maurice de Bermingham, parson of the church of Algarkirk, Lincolnshire, and William Hode, of Fleet, Lincolnshire, executors of the will of Walter de Bermingham, Knt., sued John de Bristowe, of Algarkirk, Lincolnshire, regarding a debt of £7. In 1353 Maurice de Bermingham, parson of the church of Algarkirk, Lincolnshire, and William Hode, of Fleet, Lincolnshire, executors of the will of Walter de Bermingham, Knt., sued Laurence son of Laurence Fitz Giles, of Fleet, Lincolnshire, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding an account.
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> Nicolson & Burn, Hist. & Antiqs. of the Counties of Westmorland & Cumberland 2 (1777): 69–77. Harington, Nugæ Antiquæ 3 (1792): 306–312. Hutchinson Hist. of the County of Cumberland 2 (1794): 27–28 (Lucy-Multon ped.). Banks, Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 2 (1808): 379–381 (sub Multon). Baker Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 1 (1822–30): 672–673. Betham, Dignities, Feudal & Parliamentary 1 (1830): 374 (Bermingham ped.). Burke, Gen’l & Heraldic Dict.. of the Peerages of England, Ireland & Scotland (1831): 379–380 (sub Multon). Arch. Aeliana 2 (1832): 384–386 (Tailbois-Meschiens ped..). Coll. Top. et Gen. 1 (1834): 169–170 (Extracts from Aske’s Colls.: Fleming-Camefelde-Haverington ped. dated 1412); 6 (1840): 152; 7 (1841): 389–390. Baines, Hist. of Lancaster 4 (1836): 640–644, 648 (Harington ped.). Banks, Dormant & Extinct Baronage of England 4 (1837): 152–153 (sub Bermingham). Bligh, New Rpts. of Cases Heard in the House of Lords (1838): 46. Banks, Baronies in Fee 1 (1844): 244–245 (sub Harington), 346–347 (sub Multon of Egremont). D’Alton, Hist. of Drogheda 1 (1844): 122. Wright et al., Hist. & Topog. of Counties of Cumberland & Westmoreland (1860): 382. Harland, Portfolio of Fragments (1869): 265 (garbled ped.) (author identifies Elizabeth, wife of Sir Robert Harington, Knt. as “daughter and heir of Thomas Molta [sic]”). Brewer & Bullen, Cal. Carew MSS (1871): 366, 433. Fourth Rpt. (Hist. MSS Comm. 3) (1874): 580. Birch Cat. Seals in the British Museum 2 (1892): 500 (seal of Walter de Bermyngham dated 1341 — A shield of arms: per pale indented, a border bezantée. Crest, on a helmet a wyvern between two bulls’ horns. Within a finely carved gothic panel with small ball-flowers along the inner edge. Legend: …….. DE BERMYNGEHAM.), 500–501 (seal of Elizabeth de Multon, wife of Walter de Birmingham, dated 1341 — in the centre a shield of arms: BIRMYNGHAM. Between three small roses, and within a finely carved gothic rose of six cusped points, ornamented with small cinquefoil ball-flowers along the inner edge. All within an elaborately traced estoile of six points, containing as many tricusped countersunk panels, with small cinquefoils along the inner edge; each panel contains a circular shield or roundle of arms: (1) a cross [BURGH]; (2) three bars [MULTON]; (3) a fret, or fretty of six pieces, in chief, over all, a label of three points [HARINGTON]. Each repeated in the transversely opposite panels. The whole design forms one of the most interesting and remarkable specimens of heraldic seals. Legend between the panels:— SIGI_LLVM_‌ELIZ_ABET_DE_MULTON. Beaded border.).. Gregson, Portfolio of Fragments (1869): 265. C.C.R. 1337–1339 (1900): 26, 57, 117, 119, 185, 286, 366–368, 374, 468–496. Healey, Hist. of the Part of West Somerset (1901): 252–266. Farrer, Final Concords of Lancaster 2 (Lanc. & Cheshire Rec. Soc. 46) (1903): 194–195. Feudal Aids 3 (1904): 239–241. Wrottesley, Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 368. Parker “Cal. of Feet of Fines for Cumberland” in Trans. Cumberland & Westmorland Antiq. Soc. n.s. 7 (1907): 237. C.P. 1 (1910): 298 (sub Athenry: Bermingham ped.); 6 (1926): 18–19 (sub Gormanston), 316 (sub Harington); 8 (1932): 170–171 (sub Louth); 9 (1936): 405 (sub Multon). Clay, Extinct & Dormant Peerages (1913): 142 (sub Multon). Markham, Markham Memorials 1 (1913): 40 (Harington ped..). VCH Lancaster 8 (1914): 101–105, 300–302, 328–338, 348–356. Cal. IPM 9 (1916): 404–406. Mills, Cal. Gormanston Reg. (1916): vii, 2–3, 15, 111–119, 122, 124. Jour. Galway Arch. & Hist. Soc. 9 (1917): 195–205. C.F.R. 6 (1921): 212, 262. Dudding, Hist. of the Manor & Parish of Saleby with Thoresthorpe (1922): 54–73. VCH Essex 4 (1956): 65–68. Paget, Baronage of England (1957) 273: 1, 394: 4. Frame, English Lordship in Ireland, 1318–1361 (1982). Bennett, Beneficed Clergy in the Diocese of Lincoln during the Episcopate of Henry Burghersh, 1320–1340 2 (Ph.D. thesis, Univ. of York, 1989): 69, 89. Irish Hist. Studies 29 (1994): 100–104. Fryde & Greenway, Handbook of British Chronology (1996): 162. Jour. Galway Arch. & Hist. Soc. 67 (2015): 48–68. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/368, image 4687f (available at http://‌aalt.law.uh.edu/‌E3/‌CP40no368/‌aCP40no368fronts/‌IMG_4687.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/372, image 8343f (available at http://‌aalt.law.uh.edu/‌E3/‌CP40no372/‌aCP40no372fronts/‌IMG_8343.htm). National Archives, SC 8/57/2844; SC 8/78/3869A; SC 8/78/3869B (available at http://‌discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk).
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> Children of Robert de Haverington, Knt., by Elizabeth de Multon:
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> i. JOHN HARINGTON, Knt.
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> ii. ROBERT DE HARINGTON (or HAVERYNGTON), Knt., of Fleet, Moulton, and Skirbeck, Lincolnshire, died c.1389.
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> Child of Elizabeth de Multon, by Walter de Bermingham, Knt.:
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> i. WALTER DE BERMINGHAM, Knt., of Castle-Carbury and Thetmoy [or Monasteroris], co. Kildare, and Schanbo, co. Kilkenny, Ireland, son and heir. He married MARGARET (or MARGERY) DE SCALES, daughter of Robert de Scales, Knt., 3rd Lord Scales, of Newsells (in Barkway), Hertfordshire, by Katherine, daughter of Robert de Ufford, K.G., 1st Earl of Suffolk, 2nd Lord Ufford [see SCALES 3 for her ancestry]. On 28 July 1358 Laurence de Flete, Knt., and Roger de Meers were admitted as guardians of Walter de Bermyngham, Knt., a minor, who by the king’s order was then going to Ireland, to sue and defend all pleas and quarrels for him in England for one year. SIR WALTER DE BERMINGHAM died 10 August 1361. His widow, Margaret, married (2nd) before 10 March 1363 ROBERT HOWARD (or HAWARD), Knt. [see HOWARD 10], of East Winch, East Walton, Fersfield, Garboldisham, South Clenchwarton (in Clenchwarton), South Wootton, Terrington, and Wiggenhall, Norfolk, Brokes (in Ipswich), Suffolk, etc., son and heir of John Howard (or Haward)), Knt., of Clenchwarton, East Winch, Terrington, and Wiggenhall, Norfolk, Admiral of the Fleet north of the Thames, 1335, 1347, Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk, 1344–5, Escheator of Norfolk and Suffolk, by Alice, daughter of Robert de Bois, Knt. He was born about 1342 (aged 30 in 1372). They had three sons, John, Knt., Edmund, and Robert, and three daughters, Alice (nun at Thetford), Margaret (wife of Constantine de Clifton, Esq. or Gent., 2nd Lord Clifton, and Gilbert Talbot, Knt.), and Katherine. In 1362, going beyond seas with Thomas de Ufford, he had letters nominating Robert de Causton, Knt., and John Bertilmeu as his attorneys in England for two years. In Feb. 1363, staying in England, he had letters nominating John de Shardelowe, Knt., and John Bothevyll as his attorneys in Ireland for two years. In March 1363, he and Margaret his wife then staying in England, they had letters nominating John de Bothevill and William de Methele as their attorneys in Ireland for two years. In March 1366, he staying in England, he had letters nominating Robert Mayn and Richard de Walton as his attorneys in England in Ireland for one year. In 1368 he sued Edward de Saint Omer and others regarding a tenurial and prescriptive duty for tenements in Tilney, Norfolk to repair and sustain a wall against sea storms and freshwater flooding. He was imprisoned in the Tower of London in June 1378, for detaining Margery de Nerford from her grandmother, Lady Alice Neville, with the intention of resisting an appeal pending in the papal court in Margery’s suit to annul her contract of marriage with John de Brewes. In August 1378 Robert was released by decision of the Council, provided he make every effort to bring Margery before the Council at the quinzaine of Michaelmas next. On his failure to produce Margery, he was again arrested and released on mainprise 11 Dec. 1378, on Margery being brought before the Council 10 Dec. In 1379 he was granted an exemption for life from being put on assizes, juries or recognizances, and from being made a mayor, sheriff, escheator, coroner, etc. In 1379 Philip de Melreth, clerk, Simon, Archbishop of Canterbury, and three others, executors of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, sued Robert Howard, Knt. in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a reasonable account of the time he was receiver of money for the said earl. In 1381 William de Ufford, Earl of Suffolk, and six others, acting as trustees of Sir Robert Howard, Knt. presented to the church of Fersfield, Norfolk. His trustees presented to the church of Fersfield, Norfolk in 1381. In 1386 he petitioned the king, requesting that the king order Thomas de Morley, Knt., and his colleagues to stay all proceedings in an assize of oyer and terminer into an alleged trespass by Howard and others at Bressingham, Norfolk; he further stated the assize was brought maliciously by Edmund Noon in retaliation for an assize brought against him by Robert and Margaret his wife over free tenements in Bressingham, Fersfield, and Tilney, Norfolk. In 1387 he sued John de Dalton the younger in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Garboldisham, Norfolk. SIR ROBERT HOWARD died at East Winch, Norfolk 18 July 1388. He left a will proved July 1389. In 1391 Margaret, widow of Robert Haward, Knt., John de Tudenham, Knt., William Haward, and others, executors of the will of Robert Howard, Knt., sued Ralph Champayn, of Bressingham, Norfolk, in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £_ 15s. 8d. His widow, Margaret, presented to the church of Fersfield, Norfolk in 1391. In 1394–5 William Bolt and others were outlawed on an action by Margaret, widow of Robert Howard, Knt., for one third of a whale stranded at Terrington, Norfolk. In 1399 she sued Walter son of Henry Baldyng and three others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Terrington, Norfolk. The same year she sued John Ferour, of Tilney, Norfolk, in the Court of Commons Pleas regarding the detention of a horse. Margaret left a will dated 8 May 1416. Robert and Margaret his wife were buried in the south side of the chancel at East Winch, Norfolk.
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> Blomefield, Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 1 (1739): 70–71; 1 (1805): 74–114; 3 (1769): 155–171; 5 (1806): 235–259; 9 (1808): 87. Brydges, Collins’ Peerage of England 1 (1812): 50–143. Betham, Dignities, Feudal & Parliamentary 1 (1830): 374 (Bermingham ped.). Burke, Dict. of the Peerages… Extinct, Dormant & in Abeyance 2 (1832): 231–235 (sub Howard). Ellis, Original Letters of Eminent Lit. Men (Camden Soc. 23) (1843): 114–123, esp. 115 (Howard ped.: “Robertus Howard miles. = Margareta filia Rob’ti d’ni Scales supervixit maritum.”). Top. & Gen. 2 (1853): 90–96. Harvey, Vis. of Norfolk 1563 1 (1878): 15–16 (Howard ped.: “Sir Robt. Howard knight = Margaret dr. of Robert Lord Scalles”). Waters Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878): 253–255 (Scales ped.). Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages (1883): 284 (sub Howard). Genealogist n.s. 3 (1886): 90–91. Harvey, Vis. of Dorsetshire A.D. 1565 (1887): 19–21 (Howard ped.: “Sir Robert Howard, Kt., son and heir to Sir John, mar. Margaret, da. to Robert, Lord Scales”). Procs. Suffolk Institute of Arch. & Natural Hist. 6 (1888): 225–235 (Clerestory window, north side of Lavenham, Suffolk church displays Howard arms [Gules a bend between six crosses croslet fitchy argent], impaling Scales [Gules six escallops, 3. 2. 1., argent]). Harvey et al., Vis. of Norfolk 1563 & 1613 (H.S.P. 32) (1891): 162–164 (Howard ped.: “Sir Robert Howard, knight = Margaret da. to Robert, lord Scales”). C.P.R. 1358–1361 (1895): 89. C.P.R. 1377–1381 (1895): 38, 41, 47, 96, 299, 307, 347, 360, 417, 420, 472, 513, 515, 571, 579, 581. C.P.R. 1399–1401 (1903): 427, 474. Wrottesley, Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 414–415. Brenan & Statham, House of Howard 1 (1907). C.P.R. 1396–1399 (1909): 129. Copinger, Manors of Suffolk 4 (1909): 121–122, 215–218. C.P.R. 1361–1364 (1912): 251, 311, 320. C.P.R. 1364–1367 (1912): 227. C.C.R. 1377–1381 (1914): 149, 204, 220, 222, 227–228. C.P.R. 1370–1374 (1914): 289. Cal. IPM 9 (1916): 404–406; 11 (1935): 384–387; 13 (1954): 267; 19 (1992): 185–199, 199–215. C.P.R. 1374–1377 (1916): 133, 138, 328, 332, 485, 497. C.C.R. 1381–1385 (1920): 545–546, 613. Feet of Fines for Essex 3 (1929–49): 60. C.P. 1 (1910): 298 (sub Athenry: Bermingham ped.)​; 11 (1949): 507 (sub Scales). Burke, Gen. & Heraldic Hist. of the Peerage, Baronetage, & Knightage, 105th ed. (1956): 1621–1622 (sub Norfolk). Paget, Baronage of England (1957) 294: 1, 488: 1–8 (sub Scales). Chancery Miscellanea 5 (List & Index. Soc. 49) (1970): 200; 8 (List & Index Soc. 105) (1974): 286. VCH Cambridge 5 (1973): 230. Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 3 (1992): 431–433 (biog. of Sir John Howard). Palmer, English Law in the Age of the Black Death 1348–1381 (1993): 401. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/475, image 178f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no475/475_0178.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/505, image 40 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no505/505_0040.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/521, image 43 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT6/R2/CP40no521/521_0043.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/555, image 165f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no555/aCP40no555fronts/IMG_0165.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/555, image 292d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no555/bCP40no555dorses/IMG_0292.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/618, image 1288d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H5/CP40no618/bCP40no618dorses/IMG_1288.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/618, image 1508d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H5/CP40no618/bCP40no618dorses/IMG_1508.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/555, image 165f (available at http:// aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no555/aCP40no555fronts/IMG_0165.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/555, image 292d (available at http:// aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no555/bCP40no555dorses/IMG_0292.htm). Justices Itinerant, JUST 1/1477, image 953f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/JUST1/Just1no1477/aJUST1no1477fronts/IMG_0953.htm). National Archives, C 135/147/9; SC 8/18/889; SC 8/183/9113 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk). National Archives, CP 25/1/287/40, #296; CP 25/1/289/52, #32 [see abstract of fines at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html]..
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> [1] William de Bermingham, Knt., and his brother, John de Bermingham, Earl of Louth, were children of Peter de Bermingham, of Thetmoy [or Monasteroris], co. Kildare, Ireland [died before 1303], by his wife, Ela, daughter of William de Oddingseles, Knt., Justiciar of Ireland [see ODDINGSELES 8].