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 by: Rebecca Haninger - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 19:11 UTC

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
>
> "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
>
> I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.

Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.

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 by: Rebecca Haninger - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 19:13 UTC

On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> >
> > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> >
> > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.

I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.

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 by: Rebecca Haninger - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 19:29 UTC

On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > >
> > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > >
> > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.

Between various wills, I've determined the following:

James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
+ Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
Children:
-Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
-James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
-Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
-Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
-Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
-Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
-Sophia Wilson
-Jane Wilson
-William Wilson

Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.

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 by: JBrand - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 21:32 UTC

On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma....@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > >
> > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > >
> > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> Between various wills, I've determined the following:
>
> James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> Children:
> -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d.. by 22 May 1769).
> -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> -Sophia Wilson
> -Jane Wilson
> -William Wilson
>
> Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.

The 1754 will of Willis/ Willes Orr mentions his "Aunt Sophia Wilson" in one sentence and his aunts "Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell" in the next and makes Mr. Samuel Mercer of London (a Craighead friend or kinsman) his sole executor.

"I Willes Orr Writer to the honourable the East India Company being in the Seventeenth year and ready to imbark for the Indies think it therefore fitting to make my last Will and Testament in manner following I leave to my Aunt Sophia Wilson all all my interest and Estate in houses or Leases or whatsoever else I am intitled to in Ireland To my Aunts Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell all the other effects I have excepting Fifty pounds which I leave to Mr. Samuel Mercer of London and appoint him Sole Executor of this my last Will Dated 26. Janry 1754. Willes Orr Signed in presence of Arthur Ward James Booth"

https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p34884.htm

So, seemingly, the aunts were Isabella (Orr) Atkins and Martha (Orr) Cottrell and, on the maternal side, Sophia (Jordan) Wilson. Isabella and Martha being sisters, and Sophia unrelated (or possibly the wife of their putative cousin Robert Wilson).

Samuel Craighead's will of 1759 mentions two nieces Martha "Cottrole" and ____ Atkins (apparently Isabella), and several Wilson nephews and nieces (James, Samuel, and Katherine), but no Sophia Wilson or Robert Wilson.

https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p13015.htm

The will of George Atkins, husband of Isabella, mentions "Willes Orr, Nephew of my said Wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland." The only other relations named are his own kin (Atkinses), but he does specify that "the Picture of Charles Cottrel" is to remain with his wife Isabella.

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 by: JBrand - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 22:00 UTC

On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 5:32:14 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma....@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > >
> > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> >
> > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > Children:
> > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > -Sophia Wilson
> > -Jane Wilson
> > -William Wilson
> >
> > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> The 1754 will of Willis/ Willes Orr mentions his "Aunt Sophia Wilson" in one sentence and his aunts "Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell" in the next and makes Mr. Samuel Mercer of London (a Craighead friend or kinsman) his sole executor.
>
> "I Willes Orr Writer to the honourable the East India Company being in the Seventeenth year and ready to imbark for the Indies think it therefore fitting to make my last Will and Testament in manner following I leave to my Aunt Sophia Wilson all all my interest and Estate in houses or Leases or whatsoever else I am intitled to in Ireland To my Aunts Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell all the other effects I have excepting Fifty pounds which I leave to Mr. Samuel Mercer of London and appoint him Sole Executor of this my last Will Dated 26. Janry 1754. Willes Orr Signed in presence of Arthur Ward James Booth"
>
> https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p34884.htm
>
> So, seemingly, the aunts were Isabella (Orr) Atkins and Martha (Orr) Cottrell and, on the maternal side, Sophia (Jordan) Wilson. Isabella and Martha being sisters, and Sophia unrelated (or possibly the wife of their putative cousin Robert Wilson).
>
> Samuel Craighead's will of 1759 mentions two nieces Martha "Cottrole" and ____ Atkins (apparently Isabella), and several Wilson nephews and nieces (James, Samuel, and Katherine), but no Sophia Wilson or Robert Wilson.
>
> https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p13015.htm
>
> The will of George Atkins, husband of Isabella, mentions "Willes Orr, Nephew of my said Wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland." The only other relations named are his own kin (Atkinses), but he does specify that "the Picture of Charles Cottrel" is to remain with his wife Isabella.

"For an account of the younger branch of the Cottrell family we must revert to Sir Charles Lodowick Cottrell and his second wife, Miss Chute, who was the mother of three sons, John, William, and Stephen. The eldest son, John Cottrell was a Colonel in the Army; he married Miss Matilda [sic] Orr, an Irish lady, and settled at Hadley, Middlesex, and died 1746. ..."

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Account_of_Rousham_Oxfordshire/sWhbAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=orr

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On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 6:00:20 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 5:32:14 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev.. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > >
> > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > Children:
> > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > -Jane Wilson
> > > -William Wilson
> > >
> > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > The 1754 will of Willis/ Willes Orr mentions his "Aunt Sophia Wilson" in one sentence and his aunts "Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell" in the next and makes Mr. Samuel Mercer of London (a Craighead friend or kinsman) his sole executor.
> >
> > "I Willes Orr Writer to the honourable the East India Company being in the Seventeenth year and ready to imbark for the Indies think it therefore fitting to make my last Will and Testament in manner following I leave to my Aunt Sophia Wilson all all my interest and Estate in houses or Leases or whatsoever else I am intitled to in Ireland To my Aunts Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell all the other effects I have excepting Fifty pounds which I leave to Mr. Samuel Mercer of London and appoint him Sole Executor of this my last Will Dated 26. Janry 1754. Willes Orr Signed in presence of Arthur Ward James Booth"
> >
> > https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p34884.htm
> >
> > So, seemingly, the aunts were Isabella (Orr) Atkins and Martha (Orr) Cottrell and, on the maternal side, Sophia (Jordan) Wilson. Isabella and Martha being sisters, and Sophia unrelated (or possibly the wife of their putative cousin Robert Wilson).
> >
> > Samuel Craighead's will of 1759 mentions two nieces Martha "Cottrole" and ____ Atkins (apparently Isabella), and several Wilson nephews and nieces (James, Samuel, and Katherine), but no Sophia Wilson or Robert Wilson.
> >
> > https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p13015.htm
> >
> > The will of George Atkins, husband of Isabella, mentions "Willes Orr, Nephew of my said Wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland." The only other relations named are his own kin (Atkinses), but he does specify that "the Picture of Charles Cottrel" is to remain with his wife Isabella.
> "For an account of the younger branch of the Cottrell family we must revert to Sir Charles Lodowick Cottrell and his second wife, Miss Chute, who was the mother of three sons, John, William, and Stephen. The eldest son, John Cottrell was a Colonel in the Army; he married Miss Matilda [sic] Orr, an Irish lady, and settled at Hadley, Middlesex, and died 1746. ..."
>
> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Account_of_Rousham_Oxfordshire/sWhbAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=orr

"Cottrell Wm, Bishop of Ferns & Leighlin To Honorable Coll John Cottrele the Brother

[? Con for] admon granted 8 Day June 1765."

from Betham's Genealogical Abstracts Prerog Admons. (Int) C. 1740-1764

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On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 2:49:02 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 6:00:20 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 5:32:14 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > >
> > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > Children:
> > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > -William Wilson
> > > >
> > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > The 1754 will of Willis/ Willes Orr mentions his "Aunt Sophia Wilson" in one sentence and his aunts "Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell" in the next and makes Mr. Samuel Mercer of London (a Craighead friend or kinsman) his sole executor.
> > >
> > > "I Willes Orr Writer to the honourable the East India Company being in the Seventeenth year and ready to imbark for the Indies think it therefore fitting to make my last Will and Testament in manner following I leave to my Aunt Sophia Wilson all all my interest and Estate in houses or Leases or whatsoever else I am intitled to in Ireland To my Aunts Isabella Atkins and Martha Cottrell all the other effects I have excepting Fifty pounds which I leave to Mr. Samuel Mercer of London and appoint him Sole Executor of this my last Will Dated 26. Janry 1754. Willes Orr Signed in presence of Arthur Ward James Booth"
> > >
> > > https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p34884.htm
> > >
> > > So, seemingly, the aunts were Isabella (Orr) Atkins and Martha (Orr) Cottrell and, on the maternal side, Sophia (Jordan) Wilson. Isabella and Martha being sisters, and Sophia unrelated (or possibly the wife of their putative cousin Robert Wilson).
> > >
> > > Samuel Craighead's will of 1759 mentions two nieces Martha "Cottrole" and ____ Atkins (apparently Isabella), and several Wilson nephews and nieces (James, Samuel, and Katherine), but no Sophia Wilson or Robert Wilson.
> > >
> > > https://www-personal.umich.edu/~bobwolfe/gen/pn/p13015.htm
> > >
> > > The will of George Atkins, husband of Isabella, mentions "Willes Orr, Nephew of my said Wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland." The only other relations named are his own kin (Atkinses), but he does specify that "the Picture of Charles Cottrel" is to remain with his wife Isabella.
> > "For an account of the younger branch of the Cottrell family we must revert to Sir Charles Lodowick Cottrell and his second wife, Miss Chute, who was the mother of three sons, John, William, and Stephen. The eldest son, John Cottrell was a Colonel in the Army; he married Miss Matilda [sic] Orr, an Irish lady, and settled at Hadley, Middlesex, and died 1746. ..."
> >
> > https://www.google.com/books/edition/Account_of_Rousham_Oxfordshire/sWhbAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=orr
> "Cottrell Wm, Bishop of Ferns & Leighlin To Honorable Coll John Cottrele the Brother
>
> [? Con for] admon granted 8 Day June 1765."
>
> from Betham's Genealogical Abstracts Prerog Admons. (Int) C. 1740-1764

Something must be wrong with this date (1765), or it must the granting of admon to another de bonis non (or whatever), as another source states Cottrell, Bishop of Ferns and Leighlin died in 1744 or 1747.

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On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma....@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > >
> > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > >
> > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> Between various wills, I've determined the following:
>
> James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> Children:
> -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d.. by 22 May 1769).
> -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> -Sophia Wilson
> -Jane Wilson
> -William Wilson
>
> Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.

Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.

The following deeds are useful

1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720

1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720

1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720

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On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma....@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > >
> > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> >
> > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > Children:
> > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > -Sophia Wilson
> > -Jane Wilson
> > -William Wilson
> >
> > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
>
> The following deeds are useful
>
> 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
>
> 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
>
> 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720

Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.

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On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev.. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > >
> > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > Children:
> > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > -Jane Wilson
> > > -William Wilson
> > >
> > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> >
> > The following deeds are useful
> >
> > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> >
> > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> >
> > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.

"Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead

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On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > >
> > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > Children:
> > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > -William Wilson
> > > >
> > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > >
> > > The following deeds are useful
> > >
> > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > >
> > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > >
> > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
>
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead

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Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.

If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c.. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.

Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.

Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.

To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m.. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.

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> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > >
> > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > Children:
> > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > >
> > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > >
> > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > >
> > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > >
> > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > >
> > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> >
> > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
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> https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead

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My interest in the Craighead-Heart family comes from the possibility that my ancestor, Jane Dunlap (b. c. 1775), wife of James Cousar (d. by 1813) of Gills Creek in Lancaster District, SC, was a daughter of Samuel Dunlap (b. c. 1757) and Mary Craighead, daughter of Rev. Alexander Craighead and Jane Brown, granddaughter of Rev. Thomas Craighead and Margaret Wallace, and great-granddaughter of Rev. Robert Craighead and Agnes Heart.

A common error that appears all over the internet is that Mary Craighead married Samuel Dunlap (1715-1791), but that Samuel was the father of her husband.

After Mary Craighead's death, Samuel Dunlap (Jr.) seems to have married Lydia Anderson, daughter of Cornelius Anderson. He and several of his children moved to Tennessee. He is last recorded (as far as I know) in Mar 1836 in Haywood County, but had lived in Humphreys county before that. He had several children, but it isn't always clear which of his wives was the mother of which child, nor is it always clear which grandchild was born from which child.

If Jane Dunlap who m. James Cousar really was his daughter (which is not proven), then chronology would suggest her mother was Mary Craighead and that she was the eldest child. I also think his son Robert Dunlap (d. by 1836 in Humphreys County, leaving a widow Elizabeth) might have been by Mary Craighead. I am of the opinion that Anderson Dunlap (m. Mary), William Dunlap (m. Phoebe Hall), Allen Leroy Dunlap (m. Mary), Sarah Dunlap (m. Rev. James Forrest), and Samuel Dunlap III (m. first Jane Crawford, then Nancy Riggs) were Lydia Anderson's children, but I could be wrong about one or more of them.

James Cousar (d. by 1813) and his wife, Jane Dunlap, had four sons:

Robert Cousar (c. 1789-bef. 18 Dec 1811) married his cousin Nancy Ann Dunlap, daughter of Thomas Dunlap and Catherine Foster, and had one son, Robert H. Cousar (1806-1892). Nancy married secondly, _____ Crockett, and she and Robert H. Cousar moved to Fleming County, KY, where Robert married one Julia Ann and left issue.

Samuel Cousar (c. 1790-1854) married Margaret McElmoyle and had James E. Cousar (c. 1821-1882), John J. M. Cousar (b. c. 1824), and possibly Aminta Cousar (c. 1833-1885). James E. Cousar married Mary Jane Hemby. Aminta married John David Caskey (c. 1828-1899).

Archibald B. Cousar (b. 1791-1792, d. 1830-1840 in Tennessee) married one Elizabeth (b. c. 1797) who, after his death, married _____ Maddox. Their children seem to have included Samuel Franklin Cousar (b. c. 1820), Richard E.. Cousar (b. c. 1824) who married one Lorinda (b. c. 1829), Archibald Dunlap Cousar (b. c. 1827) who married one Nancy Jane (b. c. 1837), Martha Cousar (b. c. 1832), Charles Cousar (b. c. 1835), and a son, dead by 1850, whose wife was Louisa (c. 1826-1850). There was perhaps a son named Matthew Cousar, as well. Mrs. Elizabeth Maddox and at least some of her Cousar children moved to Mississippi County, AR.

James D. Cousar, Jr. (bef. 1794-bef. 10 Dec 1825), married Bethia Hood (1788-1856), who later married Andrew Gamble. Her Cousar children were Ann Louisa Cousar (1811-1882) m. Hugh Montgomery (1805-1845); James H. Cousar (1812-1854) m. his cousin Nancy Cousar Kirk; Jane Narcissa Cousar (1814-1881) m1. (in 1838) William Blackstock, m2. James Hood; Allen H. Cousar (1816-1845); Richard Henry Cousar (1818-1903) m1. his cousin Susannah L. Dunlap, m2. Margaret Matilda Craig; and probably William K. Cousar (1820-1845).

I am descended from Richard Henry Cousar by his second wife Margaret Matilda Craig.

Robert Dunlap (b. 1776-1780, d. bef. 1836), who might have been a son of Mary Craighead, married Elizabeth H. I believe (but could be wrong in one or more of these cases) that his children included:

Samuel A. Dunlap (b. 1811-1820, d. bef. Oct 1840) m. Nancy Rushing
Rev. Robert Richard Dunlap (1818-1885) m1. Pamela Hubbard Parker, m2. Mary Louisa Williams
Salina Dunlap (b. c. 1826) m. David Rushing
James Madison Dunlap (1828-1886) m. Amanda Leona Parker
Jonathan H. Dunlap (or John H. Dunlap, b. c. 1834)

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:03:07 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
>
> If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
>
> Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
>
> Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
>
> To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > > Children:
> > > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > > >
> > > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > > >
> > > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > > >
> > > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > > >
> > > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> > > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> > >
> > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
> >
> > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead


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On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:03:07 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
>
> If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
>
> Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
>
> Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
>
> To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > > Children:
> > > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > > >
> > > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > > >
> > > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > > >
> > > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > > >
> > > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> > > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> > >
> > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
> >
> > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead

The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.

Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.

Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.

Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.

From GO 223- 254, Sir William Betham’s Prerog Will Abstracts:
Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.

Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.

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On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 5:57:04 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:03:07 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
> >
> > If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
> >
> > Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
> >
> > Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
> >
> > To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
> > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" .... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > > > Children:
> > > > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> > > > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> > > >
> > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
> > >
> > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
> The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
>
> Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
>
> Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
>
> Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
>
> From GO 223- 254, Sir William Betham’s Prerog Will Abstracts:
> Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
> The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
>
> Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.


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On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 8:01:45 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 5:57:04 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:03:07 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
> > >
> > > If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
> > >
> > > Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
> > >
> > > Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
> > >
> > > To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
> > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > > > > Children:
> > > > > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m.. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > > > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> > > > > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
> > > >
> > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
> > The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
> >
> > Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
> >
> > Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
> >
> > Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
> >
> > From GO 223- 254, Sir William Betham’s Prerog Will Abstracts:
> > Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
> > The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
> >
> > Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
> If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
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 by: Jeff Homes - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 04:01 UTC

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 8:01:45 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 5:57:04 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:03:07 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
> > > >
> > > > If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
> > > >
> > > > Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
> > > >
> > > > Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
> > > >
> > > > To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
> > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > > > > > Children:
> > > > > > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > > > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m.. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > > > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > > > > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle..
> > > > > > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
> > > > >
> > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
> > > The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
> > >
> > > Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
> > >
> > > Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
> > >
> > > Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
> > >
> > > From GO 223- 254, Sir William Betham’s Prerog Will Abstracts:
> > > Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
> > > The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
> > >
> > > Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
> > If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
> I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
> https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
An abstract of the 1693 will of Thomas Brown by Gertrude Thrift can be found on findmypast or at ancestry - and does state Mr William Homes. It reads:


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On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:01:36 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 8:01:45 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 5:57:04 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:03:07 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
> > > > >
> > > > > Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
> > > > >
> > > > > To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
> > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > > > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > > > > > > Children:
> > > > > > > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > > > > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > > > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > > > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > > > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > > > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > > > > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> > > > > > > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
> > > > The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
> > > >
> > > > Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
> > > >
> > > > Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
> > > >
> > > > Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
> > > >
> > > > From GO 223- 254, Sir William Betham’s Prerog Will Abstracts:
> > > > Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
> > > > The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
> > > >
> > > > Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
> > > If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
> > I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
> > https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
> An abstract of the 1693 will of Thomas Brown by Gertrude Thrift can be found on findmypast or at ancestry - and does state Mr William Homes. It reads:
>
> Will dated 26 Dec 1693 of Thomas Wilson of Strabane, merchant, bequeaths to wife Agnes Wilson als Stewart the house and lands called Burnes tenement for life and then to son John Wilson. Also named are sons Thomas and Francis. Son John Wilson to be administrator and friends Mr. John Crawford and Mr. WILLIAM Homes to be overseers. Witnessed by John Crawford and WILLIAM Homes.
>
> Restoration Strabane by William Rouston, Research Director of the Ulster Historical Foundation, and noted Irish Historian, states on p.52 "...William Maxwell and his daughter Mary both of whom left a cash bequest to William Holmes the Presbyterian minister in Strabane...he was (also) appointed an overseer to the wills of Thomas Wilson (1693) and James Hamilton (1703). [ref: PRONI T1026/6 p.20]
>
> Note that William Maxwell was was called a cousin in the will of James Hamilton.


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It sounds to me like Elizabeth Brown, sister of Hugh Brown, Merchant of Strabane, married James Hamilton, Merchant of Strabane (d. 1703), and had (among other children) Margery Hamilton, wife of Hugh Kyle, Merchant of Dublin (d. 1723), and Lilias Hamilton, wife of Thomas Wilson.

On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 9:08:01 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:01:36 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 8:01:45 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 5:57:04 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:03:07 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
> > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > > > > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > > > > > > > Children:
> > > > > > > > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d. bef. 1759)
> > > > > > > > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > > > > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > > > > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > > > > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > > > > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > > > > > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> > > > > > > > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
> > > > > The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will.
> > > > >
> > > > > Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749..
> > > > >
> > > > > From GO 223- 254, Sir William Betham’s Prerog Will Abstracts:
> > > > > Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
> > > > > The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
> > > > If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
> > > I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time..
> > > https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
> > An abstract of the 1693 will of Thomas Brown by Gertrude Thrift can be found on findmypast or at ancestry - and does state Mr William Homes. It reads:
> >
> > Will dated 26 Dec 1693 of Thomas Wilson of Strabane, merchant, bequeaths to wife Agnes Wilson als Stewart the house and lands called Burnes tenement for life and then to son John Wilson. Also named are sons Thomas and Francis. Son John Wilson to be administrator and friends Mr. John Crawford and Mr. WILLIAM Homes to be overseers. Witnessed by John Crawford and WILLIAM Homes.
> >
> > Restoration Strabane by William Rouston, Research Director of the Ulster Historical Foundation, and noted Irish Historian, states on p.52 "...William Maxwell and his daughter Mary both of whom left a cash bequest to William Holmes the Presbyterian minister in Strabane...he was (also) appointed an overseer to the wills of Thomas Wilson (1693) and James Hamilton (1703). [ref: PRONI T1026/6 p.20]
> >
> > Note that William Maxwell was was called a cousin in the will of James Hamilton.
> Okay, better proof about it being the minister.


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 by: Rebecca Haninger - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 05:19 UTC

There are more Heart baptisms in Hamilton, Lanarkshire:

Janet Heart, 15 Aug 1655, daughter of John Heart.
Janet Heart, 20 May 1659, daughter of John Heart.

In neither of these records is the father described as "Mr". Plus, I think these occurred after Rev. John Heart went to Ireland. So, despite having children baptized in the same place, it's possible this is a different John..

On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:11:42 AM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> It sounds to me like Elizabeth Brown, sister of Hugh Brown, Merchant of Strabane, married James Hamilton, Merchant of Strabane (d. 1703), and had (among other children) Margery Hamilton, wife of Hugh Kyle, Merchant of Dublin (d. 1723), and Lilias Hamilton, wife of Thomas Wilson.
> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 9:08:01 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:01:36 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 8:01:45 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 5:57:04 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:03:07 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
> > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > > > > > > > > Children:
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d.. bef. 1759)
> > > > > > > > > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > > > > > > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> > > > > > > > > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> > > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
> > > > > > The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From GO 223- 254, Sir William Betham’s Prerog Will Abstracts:
> > > > > > Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
> > > > > > The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
> > > > > If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
> > > > I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
> > > > https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
> > > An abstract of the 1693 will of Thomas Brown by Gertrude Thrift can be found on findmypast or at ancestry - and does state Mr William Homes. It reads:
> > >
> > > Will dated 26 Dec 1693 of Thomas Wilson of Strabane, merchant, bequeaths to wife Agnes Wilson als Stewart the house and lands called Burnes tenement for life and then to son John Wilson. Also named are sons Thomas and Francis. Son John Wilson to be administrator and friends Mr. John Crawford and Mr. WILLIAM Homes to be overseers. Witnessed by John Crawford and WILLIAM Homes.
> > >
> > > Restoration Strabane by William Rouston, Research Director of the Ulster Historical Foundation, and noted Irish Historian, states on p.52 "...William Maxwell and his daughter Mary both of whom left a cash bequest to William Holmes the Presbyterian minister in Strabane...he was (also) appointed an overseer to the wills of Thomas Wilson (1693) and James Hamilton (1703).. [ref: PRONI T1026/6 p.20]
> > >
> > > Note that William Maxwell was was called a cousin in the will of James Hamilton.
> > Okay, better proof about it being the minister.


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On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 1:11:42 AM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> It sounds to me like Elizabeth Brown, sister of Hugh Brown, Merchant of Strabane, married James Hamilton, Merchant of Strabane (d. 1703), and had (among other children) Margery Hamilton, wife of Hugh Kyle, Merchant of Dublin (d. 1723), and Lilias Hamilton, wife of Thomas Wilson.
> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 9:08:01 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:01:36 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:03:05 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 8:01:45 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 5:57:04 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:03:07 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > Looks like the Kyle family had other Wilson relatives, though at this time I'm not sure whether it was the same family that produces James Wilson, husband of Jane Craighead.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I am interpreting the records correctly: Margery, wife of Hugh Kyle, had a sister who married Thomas Wilson, son of Thomas Wilson of Strabane (d. c. 1693) and Agnes Stewart. Margery's sister and Thomas Wilson were the parents of Elizabeth Wilson, tobacconist of Dublin (d. 1734), Thomas Wilson, and Anne (Wilson) McCollam who had a daughter Elizabeth McCollam. I have yet to determine the surname of Margery or her sister, but as Jeff Homes mentioned, they were nieces of Hugh Brown, merchant of Strabane.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomas Wilson of Strabane and Agnes Stewart also had John Wilson, merchant of Strabane (d. 1735-1746) and Francis Wilson. John Wilson married Anne Caldwell (d. 1740-1769) and had Patrick, Thomas, John, Martha, Anne, and Isabella. I note the interesting coincidence that these names look a lot like the ones used in the Orr family.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patrick Wilson, merchant of Dungannon, died in 1772, having married Mary Moore 22 Jul 1747 in Donaghmore, Tyrone. He had a daughter Catherine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To make this a little confusing...Anne Wilson, daughter of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell, was the first wife of the same Richard Hughes who then married another Anne Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson and Jane Craighead whom I mentioned my earlier post. Richard Hughes and his first wife, Anne Wilson (of John Wilson and Anne Caldwell), were the parents of Sarah Hughes (m. William FitzPatrick) and Nicholas Hughes. By his second wife, Anne Wilson (of James and Jane Craighead), he had George Hughes, Ann Hughes (m. Richard Caldwell 6 Mar 1770 in Dublin), and Jane Hughes.
> > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:09:51 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:25:27 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:28:26 AM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:29:42 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:13:51 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 3:11:27 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 4:18:57 PM UTC-5, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 1755 PCC will of Isabella's husband is helpful, as well (PROB 11/813/3).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "George Atkins of Portsmouth Dock in the County of Southampton Esquire" mentions, ratifies, and confirms the settlement made upon his wife at the time of their marriage; mentions two thousand pounds owing him, secured by mortgage on part of Lord Viscount Hereford's estate, plus various other monies, bonds, securities, mainly "to my dear wife Isabella" ... to Willes Orr, nephew of said wife and son of the Reverend Thomas Orr of the Kingdom of Ireland ..."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess this shows sibling status for Martha Cottrell, Isabella Atkins, Sophia Wilson, and Rev. Thomas Orr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sophia was Sophia Jordan, sister of Elizabeth Jordan, wife of Rev. Thomas Orr. She is named in the will of her sister, Susannah Jordan, spinster (dated 11 Nov 1751, proved 17 Apr 1761 in Dublin). Sophia was married to Robert Wilson, merchant of Dublin, 28 Aug 1728.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I should also mention there is a marriage record in 1735 in Dublin between Thomas Orr and Elizabeth Jordan.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Between various wills, I've determined the following:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > James Wilson, innkeeper of Dublin (d. bef. 16 Apr 1740, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > > > > + Jane Craighead (will 18 Dec 1747, pr. 20 Nov 1752, Dublin), sister of Samuel
> > > > > > > > > > > > Children:
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Catherine Wilson (d. 1768-1774) m. _____ Wilson (d.. bef. 1759)
> > > > > > > > > > > > -James Wilson (will 7 Sep 1774, pr. 24 Aug 1778, Dublin), had (apparently illegitimate) issue with Elizabeth Leonard
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Samuel Wilson, Esq., watchmaker of Dublin (d. 1774-1787) m. (11 Apr 1752, Dublin) Ann Thompson, (sister of John Thompson, merchant of Dublin, who d. by 22 May 1769).
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Ann Wilson (will 25 Nov 1773, pr. 14 Sep 1774, Dublin) m. Richard Hughes, vintner in Dublin (will 25 Jan 1762, pr. 14 Apr 1762, Dublin)
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Elizabeth Wilson m. (sometime between 1747-1774) _____ Thompson
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Martha Wilson (d. bef. 11 Oct 1757) m. (bef. 1747) _____ Kyle
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Sophia Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Jane Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > > > -William Wilson
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sophia was named as a sister in the younger James's will. I wonder if she was actually a sister-in-law (i.e., Robert Wilson who m. Sophia Jordan was a son of James Wilson and Jane Craighead) -- but that is just speculation.
> > > > > > > > > > > Martha Wilson = Samuel Kyle of Dublin (d.1765), His will dated 6 Dec 1765, pd 24 Dec 1765 named children, Craighead, Jane, James and Martha. Samuel was the son of Hugh Kyle. Hugh's 1723 will names wife Margery and children, Samuel and Hanna. The admin of Margery was granted later in 1723 to Hugh Brown of Strabane, the uncle.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The following deeds are useful
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1735 Coningham to Brown Registry of Deeds 80/496/56707
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-G?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1746 Brown to Hall RD 156/469/106847
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-Q1MR?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1780 Lecky to Wilson 331/613/223720
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?cat=185720
> > > > > > > > > > Nice work. I forgot to mention that Samuel Craighead's will, in addition to niece Martha "Cottrole" also mentioned his niece Martha Kyle.
> > > > > > > > > "Craighead Kyle" is mentioned in Pennsylvania _Warrantees of Land_ showing a grant to him in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania, in 1774.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101077282521&seq=213&q1=craighead
> > > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015028545567&seq=286&q1=craghead
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433081662144&seq=439&q1=craghead
> > > > > > The Wilsons of Strabane are interesting. The 1693 will of Thomas Wilson (husband of Agnes Stewart) was witnessed by William Homes, (probably the Rev William homes who married Katherine Craighead). Thomas Wilson, the son, was probably the Thomas Wilson who married Lillias Hamilton, daughter of John Hamilton of Strabane. Both are mentioned in Hamilton's 1703 will..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will of James Hamilton of Strabane, merchant dated 29 Apr 1703, pd. 28 Dec 1703 names wife Elizabeth, son James Hamilton and his wife Hannah Moore, daughters Catharine, Marjory, Margarett and Lillias, granddaughter Elizabeth Wilson, son-in-law Thomas Wilson. William Homes to be overseer. (BGA, Prerogative Wills. (Phillips Mss) v.30, H 1700-1718) and (Restoration Strabane, 1660-1714, William J Roulston, Dublin, 2007, p. 52 with reference to PRONI D623/B/3/6) and (Fisher Mss Will Notes A; Ireland. Genealogical Office. Published / Created: (1859), p.154) Per PRONI T700 p.227 the witnesses were William Maxwell, Thomas Wilson, Hugh? Maxwell and Hugh Brown.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here again the William Homes mentioned in the will is the Rev William Homes of Strabane who married Katherine Craighead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jane Hamilton, daughter the James Hamilton and Hannah Moore mentioned in the will, married Thomas Brown of Strabane. He was the son of Hugh Brown of Strabane, but also had a son, Hugh Brown who left his will in 1749.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From GO 223- 254, Sir William Betham’s Prerog Will Abstracts:
> > > > > > Vol 1, p 154, Will of Thomas Browne of Strabane dated 5 Feb 1729/30 p 3 July 1730; his father’s sister Marjory Browne wife of Hamilton; his wife a dau of Col Robt McCausland; sister wife of William Stinson; his issue Robert Browne and Hugh Browne of Strabane merchant.
> > > > > > The latter Hugh Browne will dated 9 Jan 1749 p 19 Oct 1750; sister wife of McClintock; son William Browne and dau Catharine Browne.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hannah Moore m2 after the death of James Hamiton, Robert McCausland of Fruithill - thus the reference to him as father-in-law in the will of Thomas Brown.
> > > > > If it were the minister William Homes, he would surely be called "Mr. William," as the Scots were always very particular about assigning the "Mr" title to any minister.
> > > > I agree with your point regarding the use of "Mr" in formal documents, but I find the use inconsistent in abstracts that were often dashed off in haste and for personal use. I don't know if you have had a chance to review the Fisher Mss. A link is below - see image 158. He states "Mr William Haimes, minister of Strabane", unfortunate for the transcription error, but this seems to be Rev William Homes who was minister of Strabane at the time.
> > > > https://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000531511
> > > An abstract of the 1693 will of Thomas Brown by Gertrude Thrift can be found on findmypast or at ancestry - and does state Mr William Homes. It reads:
> > >
> > > Will dated 26 Dec 1693 of Thomas Wilson of Strabane, merchant, bequeaths to wife Agnes Wilson als Stewart the house and lands called Burnes tenement for life and then to son John Wilson. Also named are sons Thomas and Francis. Son John Wilson to be administrator and friends Mr. John Crawford and Mr. WILLIAM Homes to be overseers. Witnessed by John Crawford and WILLIAM Homes.
> > >
> > > Restoration Strabane by William Rouston, Research Director of the Ulster Historical Foundation, and noted Irish Historian, states on p.52 "...William Maxwell and his daughter Mary both of whom left a cash bequest to William Holmes the Presbyterian minister in Strabane...he was (also) appointed an overseer to the wills of Thomas Wilson (1693) and James Hamilton (1703).. [ref: PRONI T1026/6 p.20]
> > >
> > > Note that William Maxwell was was called a cousin in the will of James Hamilton.
> > Okay, better proof about it being the minister.
James Hamilton gives the names of his wife as Elizabeth Stewart in his will.. This doesn't rule out another marriage, but I am not sure we can jump to the conclusion of a marriage to an Elizabeth Brown. I have been working to assemble deeds that may be useful in sorting this out. Links are below:


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Will of ELIZABETH WILSON of the City of Dublin, tobacconist, 22 May 1734, pr. 20 Jun 1734 - brother THOMAS WILSON; sister ANNE MCCOLLAM; niece ELIZABETH MCCOLLAM & dau. of same; cousins CATHERINE KYLE and SAMUEL KYLE; uncle JOHN WILSON; aunt CATHERINE PEARSON; cousins CATHERINE PEARSON and MARTHA WILSON.

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Here is a deed registered 22 May 1780 in connection to the estate of James Wilson, Jr., son of James Wilson, Sr. and Jane Craighead:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?i=329&cat=185720

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 4:23:06 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> Will of ELIZABETH WILSON of the City of Dublin, tobacconist, 22 May 1734, pr. 20 Jun 1734 - brother THOMAS WILSON; sister ANNE MCCOLLAM; niece ELIZABETH MCCOLLAM & dau. of same; cousins CATHERINE KYLE and SAMUEL KYLE; uncle JOHN WILSON; aunt CATHERINE PEARSON; cousins CATHERINE PEARSON and MARTHA WILSON.

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On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 8:02:55 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> Here is a deed registered 22 May 1780 in connection to the estate of James Wilson, Jr., son of James Wilson, Sr. and Jane Craighead:
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> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?i=329&cat=185720
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 4:23:06 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > Will of ELIZABETH WILSON of the City of Dublin, tobacconist, 22 May 1734, pr. 20 Jun 1734 - brother THOMAS WILSON; sister ANNE MCCOLLAM; niece ELIZABETH MCCOLLAM & dau. of same; cousins CATHERINE KYLE and SAMUEL KYLE; uncle JOHN WILSON; aunt CATHERINE PEARSON; cousins CATHERINE PEARSON and MARTHA WILSON.

Memorial #56781 of two deeds dated 1735. 1st - Elizabeth Jorden, 2nd daughter of Gabriel Jorden grants to Robert Wilson and Robert Craighead a house on the south side of Lazy Hill in the suburbs of Dublin. 2nd - release Rev Thomas Orr of 1st part; Elizabeth Jorden, widow and Elizabeth Jorden, spinster grant annuity to Robert Wilson and Robert Craighead from land bought by Elizabeth Jorden, widow from John Brock and Charles Meares.

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Subject: Re: Some further refs. to Rev. John Heart & family
From: haninger.7@gmail.com (Rebecca Haninger)
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 by: Rebecca Haninger - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 00:38 UTC

It is tempting to suggest Anne, the wife of Robert Craighead, was Anne Jordan, daughter of Gabriel Jordan. Gabriel did in fact have a daughter named Anne who, sometime after 1735, was married to David Campbell.

On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 2:18:43 PM UTC-4, Jeff Homes wrote:
> On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 8:02:55 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > Here is a deed registered 22 May 1780 in connection to the estate of James Wilson, Jr., son of James Wilson, Sr. and Jane Craighead:
> >
> > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-W93G-R?i=329&cat=185720
> > On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 4:23:06 PM UTC-4, Rebecca Haninger wrote:
> > > Will of ELIZABETH WILSON of the City of Dublin, tobacconist, 22 May 1734, pr. 20 Jun 1734 - brother THOMAS WILSON; sister ANNE MCCOLLAM; niece ELIZABETH MCCOLLAM & dau. of same; cousins CATHERINE KYLE and SAMUEL KYLE; uncle JOHN WILSON; aunt CATHERINE PEARSON; cousins CATHERINE PEARSON and MARTHA WILSON.
> Memorial #56781 of two deeds dated 1735. 1st - Elizabeth Jorden, 2nd daughter of Gabriel Jorden grants to Robert Wilson and Robert Craighead a house on the south side of Lazy Hill in the suburbs of Dublin. 2nd - release Rev Thomas Orr of 1st part; Elizabeth Jorden, widow and Elizabeth Jorden, spinster grant annuity to Robert Wilson and Robert Craighead from land bought by Elizabeth Jorden, widow from John Brock and Charles Meares.
>
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-L9QM-T?cat=185720

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