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Re: George Sydenham of Poole, Morebath, Devon, and New York

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Subject: Re: George Sydenham of Poole, Morebath, Devon, and New York
From: ravinmaven2001@yahoo.com (Johnny Brananas)
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 by: Johnny Brananas - Wed, 20 Dec 2023 17:19 UTC

On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 11:25:37 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
> On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 11:26:12 PM UTC-4, John Higgins wrote:
> > On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 3:43:01 PM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 6:29:26 PM UTC-4, taf wrote:
> > > > On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 10:04:56 AM UTC-7, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > David Selleck and Susanna Kibby had a son David whose marriage (if any)
> > > > > isn't given in the TAG article. Do you think it is possible he was the
> > > > > one who may have married Dorothy Sydenham, granddaughter of the Thomas
> > > > > Sydenham who died 1635?
> > > >
> > > > In what context is this marriage said to have taken place? David and Susanna left for America immediately after their marriage. Is there any reason to think that Thomas or his daughter crossed?
> > > >
> > > > taf
> > >
> > > Oh, maybe I was misreading what John Higgins wrote:
> > >
> > > "Thoms (d. 22 Mar 1609, IPM 11 Sept. 1609); m. Elizabeth, dau. of William Cross of Charlinch
> > > 2. [eldest son] Thomas (b. 1578, d. 1635); m. 20 May 1607 Dorothy, dau. of David Sellick of Morebath, Devon
> > > 3. [4th son] George (d. 1695); m. Mary Hill of Bampton
> > > 4. [eldest son] George "of New England", returned to England in December 1696
> > >
> > > BTY a granddaughter of the younger Thomas (#2) above was Dorothy (daughter of another Thomas, son of the younger Thomas, who is stated to have married David Sellick. Might be of interest..."
> > >
> > > I understood this to mean:
> > >
> > > Thomas Sydenham, d. 1635
> > > (son) Thomas Sydenham
> > > (dau.) Dorothy Sydenham = a man named David Sellick
> > >
> > > But maybe he was just saying the name "Dorothy" was used in later generations.
> >
> > John, you've accurately reported what I said above in my original post. But in double-checking it now, I see that I omitted a generation. Dorothy Sydenham who married David Sellick was the granddaughter, not daughter, of the third Thomas Sydenham. For the sake of clarity, here is the entire descent starting with the first Thomas:
> >
> > 1. Thomas (d. 22 Mar 1609, IPM 11 Sept. 1609); m. Elizabeth, dau. of William Cross of Charlinch
> > 2. [eldest son] Thomas (b. 1578, d. 1635); m. 20 May 1607 Dorothy, dau. of David Sellick of Morebath, Devon
> > 3. [2nd son] Thomas (d. 1662; m. Marjorie Cridland (d. 1702)
> > 4. John (born 1653, d. 1737); m. Dorothy Venne
> > 5. Dorothy; m. David Sellick
> >
> > Sorry for any confusion. David Sellick is identified solely because he is mentioned in his father-in-law John's will (dated 10 Apr 1735, proved 1737). No other information is given for him, and no mention is made of New England for this family.
> >
> > 3. [4th son] George (d. 1695); m. Mary Hill of Bampton
> > 4. [eldest son] George "of New England", returned to England in December 1696
> I agree that a David Sellick this late (living 1735 in England) would most likely have no connection to the New England & Virginia people.
>
> The _TAG_ Selleck article from 2006 shows there was another David Selleck more or less contemporary with the one who went to New England, and he might well be the ancestor of the David living in England in 1735 (married Dorothy Sydenham).

Evelyn Wachter's book is apparently available online ...

https://u.demog.berkeley.edu/~wachter/people/book.ocr.pdf

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