On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 6:13:31 AM UTC+10, Brad Verity wrote:
> I decided that before tackling the royal ancestry of Jack Brooksbank, and all the detailed lines posted by Gawain and others some months back, I needed to at least have his mother-in-law and her ancestry in my database.
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> I’ve finally completed entering all of the Duchess of York’s lines back to Edward I (at least all the ones that I could uncover). The end result is that I do have some lines that aren’t yet in the Genealogics and Roglo databases, and I’ll post them here to SocGenMed, for completion’s sake, if nothing else. I realize this overlaps with research into Sarah Ferguson’s ancestry undertaken and shared by Will Johnson, John Higgins and others over the years. I’ve tried to go back in the archives and re-read the past threads on Sarah’s ancestry, but I may well have missed some. If I post a line that was already covered previously, my apologies.
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> I’m fascinated by mtDNA lines, and what immediately struck me with the Duchess of York’s ancestry is that she is a direct mtDNA descendant of Lady Anne Clifford, Countess of Dorset and (later) of Pembroke (1590-1676), who was a genealogist herself in her own time, and whose research into her Clifford ancestors I’ve previously studied. Of course this mtDNA line continues into the next generation with Sarah’s daughters Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, as well as their first cousins, Ayesha (Makim) Specker and Heidi Luedecke. In my database, I’ve traced Sarah’s mtDNA line back 18 generations to Elizabeth Howard, wife of Henry Wentworth of Codham Hall (d. 1483). As neither Elizabeth nor her husband descend from Edward I, I haven’t traced the line back any further, but Genealogics (thanks to Gerald Paget’s The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles) has it back a further two generations, to Margery, wife of Sir Henry Hussey.
> http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076296&tree=LEO
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> Has anyone been able to trace it even further back? It’s noteworthy that the Duchess of York’s mtDNA line can be traced back to the 14th-century, especially when compared to her royal ex-husband Prince Andrew, whose mtDNA line is traced (at least in Genealogics) only 8 generations back, to the 18th-century Ann Newland, wife of Edward Garritt.
> http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00219247&tree=LEO
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> Turning to the Duchess of York’s paternal line, what’s interesting is how it really didn’t achieve gentry status until the end of the 19th-century. According to the ‘Ferguson of Dummer’ article in BLG (1972), the family seems to have originated in Ireland, in counties Down and Antrim, and can be traced back seven generations from Sarah, to the latter 18th-century. A 3xgreat-uncle, barrister-at-law Thomas Benyon Ferguson (1836-1874), was the first to marry into the Edward I bloodline, in 1869, followed by his widowed sister-in-law, Sophia (Holford) Ferguson, who took as her second husband, Sir Astley Paston Paston-Cooper, 3rd Baronet, in 1890. Genealogics (thanks to Debrett’s Book of the Royal Engagement (1986)) has much of the Ferguson/Holford ancestry. If anyone has done further research into it, and come across any lines back to the Plantagenets, I’d be interested in hearing about it.
> http://www.genealogics.org/pedigree.php?personID=I00005778&tree=LEO&parentset=0&display=standard&generations=7
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> Maj. Victor Ferguson, Lady Paston-Cooper’s eldest son, purchased Polebrook Hall in Northamptonshire in 1885. When he was killed on the Second Ashanti Expedition in January 1896, it was inherited by his next brother, Capt. Algernon Ferguson, one of the three aide-de-camps to the recently appointed governor of New South Wales, Viscount Hampden. A year later, in January 1897, the engagement of Capt. Ferguson to Viscount Hampden’s eldest daughter, Hon. Margaret Brand, was announced. It clearly was a love match, and the April 1897 wedding in Sydney’s St Andrew Cathedral was given royal wedding status by Australian society and press, including a 5-page illustrated spread in The Sydney Mail and New South Wales Advertiser:
> https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/163793603?searchTerm=Algernon%20Ferguson&searchLimits=
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> Hon. Margaret (Brand) Ferguson had an extensive royal ancestry, including a line of descent from Charles II thru his illegitimate daughter Anne (Palmer), Countess of Sussex. One of Hon. Margaret’s paternal ancestors is Katherine (Cornwallis) Knollys, in Genealogics here, with only a father given:
> http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00123702&tree=LEO
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> KATHERINE CORNWALLIS, bapt. 28 July 1591 St Stephen Walbrook, London; d. Jan. 1674 (will dated 15 Jan. 1674, proved 27 Jan. 1674); m. 25 Apr. 1609 St Martin in the Fields, London, Sir HENRY KNOLLYS of Grove Place, Nursling, Hampshire (b. unknown; bur. 9 Oct. 1638 St Boniface Church, Nursling, Hampshire), est. son of Henry Knollys of Chickenhall, North Stoneham, Hampshire & Joan Salmon.
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> Dame Katherine Knollys has two lines of descent from Edward I, one thru each of her parents.
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> Edward I had two daus A1 & B1 (see below)
> A1) Joan of Acre, Countess of Gloucester, who had
> A2) Lady Eleanor de Clare (1292-1337) m. 1) Hugh, 2nd Lord Despenser (c.1289-1326), and had
> A3) Isabel Despenser (c.1313-aft.1356) m. (div.) Richard Fitzalan, 3rd Earl of Arundel (c.1314-1376), and had
> A4) Sir Edmund Arundel of Bignor (1327-c.1381) m. Lady Sybil Montagu (c.1327-aft.1371), and had
> A5) Philippa Arundel (c.1352-1399) m. 1) Sir Richard Cergeaux of Colquite (c.1340-1393), and had
> A6) Philippa Cergeaux (1381-1420) m. 1) Sir Robert Pashley of Pashley (c.1370-1400), and had
> A7) Anne Pashley (d. 1444) m. 2) Edward Tyrrell of Downham (d. 1442), and had
> A8) Philippa Tyrrell (b. c.1435) m. Thomas Cornwallis of Brome Hall (c.1421-1484), and had
> A9) William Cornwallis of Brome Hall (c.1470-1519) m. Elizabeth Stanford (d. 1537), and had
> A10) Sir John Cornwallis of Brome Hall (c.1491-1544) m. Mary Sulyard, and had
> A11) Richard Cornwallis of Okenhill Hall (d. bef.1581) m. Margaret Lowthe (c.1529-1603), and had
> A12) Sir Thomas Cornwallis of Porchester Castle (d. 1618) m. Elizabeth Molyneux (see B11 below), and had
> A13) Katherine Cornwallis (1591-1674) m. Sir Henry Knollys of Grove Place
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> B1) Elizabeth Plantagenet, Countess of Hereford, who had
> B2) Lady Eleanor de Bohun (c.1310-1363) m. 1) James Butler, 1st Earl of Ormond (1305-1338), and had
> B3) Lady Petronilla Butler (c.1335-1368) m. Gilbert, 3rd Lord Talbot (c.1332-1387), and had
> B4) Richard, 4th Lord Talbot (by 1361-1396) m. Ankaret Lestrange (by 1361-1413), and had
> B5) Mary Talbot (c.1382-1434) m. 1) Sir Thomas Greene of Greens Norton Hall (1369-1417), and had
> B6) Sir Thomas Greene of Greens Norton Hall (1400-1462) m. 2) Marine Bellers (d. 1489), and had
> B7) Elizabeth Greene m. Sir Bryan Sandford of Thorpe Salvin, and had
> B8) Dorothy Sandford m. Richard Lascelles of Gateford (d. 1520), and had
> B9) George Lascelles of Gateford (by 1499-1558) m. Dorothy Paynell, and had
> B10) Anne Lascelles m. John Molyneux of Thorpe (d. 1588), and had
> B11) Elizabeth Molyneux m. Sir Thomas Cornwallis of Portchester Castle (see A12 above)
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> More to follow.
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> Cheers, -----Brad
hi you should have a look at my tree i have 4 links to henry the second

On 2/4/2024 5:17 PM, Alisha Green wrote:

> hi you should have a look at my tree i have 4 links to henry the second

If you would like to discuss these royal links, perhaps some more
details would spur conversation.

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