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 by: Mark Alliston - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 10:30 UTC

I have an extensive collection of Liston records going back to the domesday and the first crusade when Arnulf de Hesdin, brother of Ilbod who held Liston manor near Sudbury, went on the first crusade after his champion won in trial by combat against William Ii’s champion. Ilbods lands seem to have gone to the husband if Arnulfs daughter, Alan fitz Flaad, as seen by the gift of Ilbods manor in Oxfordshire. By 1185 Liston manor is held by Avicia wife of Godfrey they Chamberlain (VCH). Possibly the Godfrey the chamberlain who witnessed a confirmation of a charter by William the Lion of Scotland ( poms.ac.uk ). If so it could be Godfrey de Percy who witnessed a grant of Oxnamb to Jedburgh Abbey. Godfrey de Percy’s grandfather was William de Percy who was also known to have gone on the first crusade ( only five living in England/Isle of Man are known to have gone ). William de Percy and Arnulf de Hesdin knew each other as seen by charter of land which mentions Hugh de Port, father in law of William de Percy, William de Percy and as a witness Arnulf de Hesdin. The land was in Hampshire where Hugh de Port held land.

Does any one know of any private record collections that mention the Liston family and be willing to share information ?

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 by: Robert Goff - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 22:51 UTC

On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 5:30:25 AM UTC-5, Mark Alliston wrote:
> I have an extensive collection of Liston records going back to the domesday and the first crusade when Arnulf de Hesdin, brother of Ilbod who held Liston manor near Sudbury, went on the first crusade after his champion won in trial by combat against William Ii’s champion. Ilbods lands seem to have gone to the husband if Arnulfs daughter, Alan fitz Flaad, as seen by the gift of Ilbods manor in Oxfordshire. By 1185 Liston manor is held by Avicia wife of Godfrey they Chamberlain (VCH). Possibly the Godfrey the chamberlain who witnessed a confirmation of a charter by William the Lion of Scotland ( poms.ac.uk ). If so it could be Godfrey de Percy who witnessed a grant of Oxnamb to Jedburgh Abbey. Godfrey de Percy’s grandfather was William de Percy who was also known to have gone on the first crusade ( only five living in England/Isle of Man are known to have gone ). William de Percy and Arnulf de Hesdin knew each other as seen by charter of land which mentions Hugh de Port, father in law of William de Percy, William de Percy and as a witness Arnulf de Hesdin. The land was in Hampshire where Hugh de Port held land.
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> Does any one know of any private record collections that mention the Liston family and be willing to share information ?

I'm not sure if you already have this, but John de Liston, father of Godfrey was mentioned in a 1228 lawsuit over land in Clopton, Suffolk. Curia Regis Rolls 11-14 Henry III, vol. 13, p. 241-2, 422 , 424, 520.

Was the Geoffrey de Liston who entered a 1235-6 fine with Robert de Sancto Claro for alternate presentations for the advowson of Liston (Essex Fines vol. 2, p. 114) actually Godfrey de Liston or someone else? In 1248, the advowson of Liston was held alternately by Godfrey de Liston and Robert de Sancto Claro. Testa de Nevill, vol. 2, p. 1410.

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