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A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?

Thanks!

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 by: Markem618 - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 03:37 UTC

On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

>A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?
>
>Thanks!

Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
are over cement board though.

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 by: Michael - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:02 UTC

On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06 PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
> <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?
> >
> >Thanks!
> Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
> a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
> are over cement board though.

Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.

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 by: Clare Snyder - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:32 UTC

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06?PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
>> <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
>> a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
>> are over cement board though.
>
>Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.
I have used ditra for tile flooring over plywood subfloor and it is
GREAT. The purpose of Ditra is to uncouple the tile from the
substrate. This allows the subfloor to expand and contract at a
different rate than the tile from heat and humidity without cracking
the tile or the grout line. Concrete backer board can NOT do this
effectively - and nor can a mud bed.

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 by: Michael - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:11 UTC

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:32:49 AM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael
> <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06?PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
> >> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
> >> <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks!
> >> Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
> >> a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
> >> are over cement board though.
> >
> >Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.
> I have used ditra for tile flooring over plywood subfloor and it is
> GREAT. The purpose of Ditra is to uncouple the tile from the
> substrate. This allows the subfloor to expand and contract at a
> different rate than the tile from heat and humidity without cracking
> the tile or the grout line. Concrete backer board can NOT do this
> effectively - and nor can a mud bed.

Thanks! I guess I'm wondering about thicknesses. I learned that tile should be installed plywood + cement board to a thickness of 1 1/4 - 1 1/2. But 3/4 plywood + 1/8 Ditra + thinset is less than on inch. But that's enough to prevent floor flexing?

Appreciated!

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 by: Clare Snyder - Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:06 UTC

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<michaeldwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:32:49?AM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael
>> <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06?PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
>> >> <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks!
>> >> Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
>> >> a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
>> >> are over cement board though.
>> >
>> >Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.
>> I have used ditra for tile flooring over plywood subfloor and it is
>> GREAT. The purpose of Ditra is to uncouple the tile from the
>> substrate. This allows the subfloor to expand and contract at a
>> different rate than the tile from heat and humidity without cracking
>> the tile or the grout line. Concrete backer board can NOT do this
>> effectively - and nor can a mud bed.
>
>Thanks! I guess I'm wondering about thicknesses. I learned that tile should be installed plywood + cement board to a thickness of 1 1/4 - 1 1/2. But 3/4 plywood + 1/8 Ditra + thinset is less than on inch. But that's enough to prevent floor flexing?
>
>Appreciated!
3/4 inch fir ply on 16 inch centers is fine. Mine is 5/8" but the span
is only 6 feet. I even use ditra on concrete to decouple the tile from
any cracks that form in the concrete base.

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 by: Michael - Tue, 27 Jun 2023 02:31 UTC

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:06:41 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT), Michael
> <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:32:49?AM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> >> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael
> >> <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 10:38:06?PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:57:09 -0700 (PDT), Michael
> >> >> <michael...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >A question about Ditra: I hesitate using it because it does not provide the stiffness of cement board that I would think would prevent failure. But everyone says it's wonderful. Should I not be worried about this?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks!
> >> >> Installed right it give better performance than cement board alone, in
> >> >> a shower or wet floor area. Most Ditra installations that I have seen
> >> >> are over cement board though.
> >> >
> >> >Ok, thanks! The instructional videos I have seen has the Ditra installed on the subfloor. I'll keep researching.
> >> I have used ditra for tile flooring over plywood subfloor and it is
> >> GREAT. The purpose of Ditra is to uncouple the tile from the
> >> substrate. This allows the subfloor to expand and contract at a
> >> different rate than the tile from heat and humidity without cracking
> >> the tile or the grout line. Concrete backer board can NOT do this
> >> effectively - and nor can a mud bed.
> >
> >Thanks! I guess I'm wondering about thicknesses. I learned that tile should be installed plywood + cement board to a thickness of 1 1/4 - 1 1/2. But 3/4 plywood + 1/8 Ditra + thinset is less than on inch. But that's enough to prevent floor flexing?
> >
> >Appreciated!
> 3/4 inch fir ply on 16 inch centers is fine. Mine is 5/8" but the span
> is only 6 feet. I even use ditra on concrete to decouple the tile from
> any cracks that form in the concrete base.

Thanks! Much appreciated!

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