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* STRANGE POSTS Whats upArmada Racun
`* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upMarkem618
 +* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upBob F
 |`* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats uphubops
 | `- Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upPuckdropper
 +- Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upMichael
 +* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upJust Wondering
 |`- Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upMarkem618
 `* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upDerbyDad03
  `* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upScott Lurndal
   `* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upSonny
    +- Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upMarkem618
    `* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upMarkem618
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      `* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upMarkem618
       `* Re: STRANGE POSTS Whats upScott Lurndal
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 by: Armada Racun - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 02:05 UTC

This grioup is getting strange posts with weird characters

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 by: Markem618 - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 02:44 UTC

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:05:46 -0600, Armada Racun <Bubba@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>This grioup is getting strange posts with weird characters

Some spamming jerk is using google groups to advertise a click through
site so he can make money.

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 by: Bob F - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 03:57 UTC

On 11/13/2023 6:44 PM, Markem618 wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:05:46 -0600, Armada Racun <Bubba@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This grioup is getting strange posts with weird characters
>
> Some spamming jerk is using google groups to advertise a click through
> site so he can make money.

EternalSeptember must be suppressing them, because I have no filters on
this group, and I see no such thing.

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 by: hubops@ccanoemail.com - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:57 UTC

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 19:57:05 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/13/2023 6:44 PM, Markem618 wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:05:46 -0600, Armada Racun <Bubba@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This grioup is getting strange posts with weird characters
>>
>> Some spamming jerk is using google groups to advertise a click through
>> site so he can make money.
>
>EternalSeptember must be suppressing them, because I have no filters on
>this group, and I see no such thing.

Lucky you ! .. up to about 100 per day lately.
Easy to recognize - very long subject lines, full of
question marks ..
John T.

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 by: Michael - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 17:42 UTC

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 8:44:48 PM UTC-6, Markem618 wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:05:46 -0600, Armada Racun <Bu...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
> >This grioup is getting strange posts with weird characters
> Some spamming jerk is using google groups to advertise a click through
> site so he can make money.

What is a click through site?

Thanks.

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 by: Just Wondering - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 00:24 UTC

On 11/13/2023 7:44 PM, Markem618 wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:05:46 -0600, Armada Racun <Bubba@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This grioup is getting strange posts with weird characters
>
> Some spamming jerk is using google groups to advertise a click through
> site so he can make money.
>
You spelled "butthole" wrong.

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 by: DerbyDad03 - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 03:27 UTC

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 9:44:48 PM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:05:46 -0600, Armada Racun <Bu...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
> >This grioup is getting strange posts with weird characters
> Some spamming jerk is using google groups to advertise a click through
> site so he can make money.

Not arguing, but…

Who would click a link in any of those posts?

Rarely do I say that *nobody* would be that stupid/ignorant
but I’m willing to say it now.

Have you opened one of the posts? The contents don’t even
reach the level of gibberish. There’s rarely even a word and
certainly never a phrase that would fool even the least tech
savvy reader into clicking a link.

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DerbyDad03 <teamarrows@eznet.net> writes:
>On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 9:44:48=E2=80=AFPM UTC-5, Markem618 wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:05:46 -0600, Armada Racun <Bu...@nowhere.com>=20
>> wrote:
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>> site so he can make money.
>
>Not arguing, but=E2=80=A6
>
>Who would click a link in any of those posts?=20
>
>Rarely do I say that *nobody* would be that stupid/ignorant
>but I=E2=80=99m willing to say it now.
>
>Have you opened one of the posts? The contents don=E2=80=99t even=20
>reach the level of gibberish. There=E2=80=99s rarely even a word and=20
>certainly never a phrase that would fool even the least tech=20
>savvy reader into clicking a link.

I figure they're more in the line of SEO (Search Engine Optimization)
with the mass of posts attempting to influence search results for
many of the terms in the posts.

Since my reader doesn't handle UTF-8, the posts are effectivly
random data to me.

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 by: Sonny - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 15:29 UTC

I think this has happened before, when turmoil erupted in the Middle East. I suspect it's Middle Eastern trolls flooding many sites with their philosophy.

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 by: Markem618 - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 16:32 UTC

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 17:24:52 -0700, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

>On 11/13/2023 7:44 PM, Markem618 wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:05:46 -0600, Armada Racun <Bubba@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This grioup is getting strange posts with weird characters
>>
>> Some spamming jerk is using google groups to advertise a click through
>> site so he can make money.
>>
>You spelled "butthole" wrong.
Agreed

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 by: Markem618 - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 16:34 UTC

On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:29:43 -0800 (PST), Sonny <cedarsonny@aol.com>
wrote:

>
>I think this has happened before, when turmoil erupted in the Middle East. I suspect it's Middle Eastern trolls flooding many sites with their philosophy.

Nope, just some gaming sites.

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 by: Markem618 - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 19:20 UTC

On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:29:43 -0800 (PST), Sonny <cedarsonny@aol.com>
wrote:

>
>I think this has happened before, when turmoil erupted in the Middle East. I suspect it's Middle Eastern trolls flooding many sites with their philosophy.

Actually it is a Thai language site, it is hosted by Go Daddy.
Complaints to abuse@godaddy.com about tga168.net spam.

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 by: hubops@ccanoemail.com - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 23:09 UTC

On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 13:20:26 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:29:43 -0800 (PST), Sonny <cedarsonny@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>I think this has happened before, when turmoil erupted in the Middle East. I suspect it's Middle Eastern trolls flooding many sites with their philosophy.
>
>Actually it is a Thai language site, it is hosted by Go Daddy.
>Complaints to abuse@godaddy.com about tga168.net spam.

I wonder if that would help at all ?
It must be spam-bots creating all the google group postings -
so even if godaddy suspended the web site, the spam bots
would carry on their dastardly mission .. ?
John T.

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 by: Markem618 - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 03:13 UTC

On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 18:09:44 -0500, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 13:20:26 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:29:43 -0800 (PST), Sonny <cedarsonny@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I think this has happened before, when turmoil erupted in the Middle East. I suspect it's Middle Eastern trolls flooding many sites with their philosophy.
>>
>>Actually it is a Thai language site, it is hosted by Go Daddy.
>>Complaints to abuse@godaddy.com about tga168.net spam.
>
>
> I wonder if that would help at all ?
> It must be spam-bots creating all the google group postings -
>so even if godaddy suspended the web site, the spam bots
>would carry on their dastardly mission .. ?
> John T.
>
Go Daddy is more likely to have and effect than google. Though the bot
is only posting to the rec.

So it is very strange a Thai language site, spam bombing just the rec,
I will let the speculation begin.

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 by: Scott Lurndal - Thu, 16 Nov 2023 14:59 UTC

Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com> writes:
>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 18:09:44 -0500, hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 13:20:26 -0600, Markem618 <markrm618@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:29:43 -0800 (PST), Sonny <cedarsonny@aol.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think this has happened before, when turmoil erupted in the Middle East. I suspect it's Middle Eastern trolls flooding many sites with their philosophy.
>>>
>>>Actually it is a Thai language site, it is hosted by Go Daddy.
>>>Complaints to abuse@godaddy.com about tga168.net spam.
>>
>>
>> I wonder if that would help at all ?
>> It must be spam-bots creating all the google group postings -
>>so even if godaddy suspended the web site, the spam bots
>>would carry on their dastardly mission .. ?
>> John T.
>>
>Go Daddy is more likely to have and effect than google. Though the bot
>is only posting to the rec.
>
>So it is very strange a Thai language site, spam bombing just the rec,
>I will let the speculation begin.

It's been bombing comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++, comp.arch for a couple
of months now. Google finally made all three read-only, and that
has pretty much eliminated the spam posts there. There are many other
groups that are also affected.

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hubops@ccanoemail.com wrote in
news:bj27liljtce4j05chn3sep71og7heg3oqk@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 19:57:05 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 11/13/2023 6:44 PM, Markem618 wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:05:46 -0600, Armada Racun <Bubba@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This grioup is getting strange posts with weird characters
>>>
>>> Some spamming jerk is using google groups to advertise a click
>>> through site so he can make money.
>>
>>EternalSeptember must be suppressing them, because I have no filters
>>on this group, and I see no such thing.
>
>
> Lucky you ! .. up to about 100 per day lately.
> Easy to recognize - very long subject lines, full of
> question marks ..
> John T.

I'm going to set up a filter on my newsreader for lines that start with
"=?UTF". That should handle a lot of it.

Just did. Had about 450 unread messages, now I'm down to 9.

Puckdropper

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 by: DerbyDad03 - Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:45 UTC

On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 9:59:51 AM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Markem618 <mark...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 18:09:44 -0500, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 13:20:26 -0600, Markem618 <mark...@hotmail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:29:43 -0800 (PST), Sonny <cedar...@aol.com>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>I think this has happened before, when turmoil erupted in the Middle East. I suspect it's Middle Eastern trolls flooding many sites with their philosophy.
> >>>
> >>>Actually it is a Thai language site, it is hosted by Go Daddy.
> >>>Complaints to ab...@godaddy.com about tga168.net spam.
> >>
> >>
> >> I wonder if that would help at all ?
> >> It must be spam-bots creating all the google group postings -
> >>so even if godaddy suspended the web site, the spam bots
> >>would carry on their dastardly mission .. ?
> >> John T.
> >>
> >Go Daddy is more likely to have and effect than google. Though the bot
> >is only posting to the rec.
> >
> >So it is very strange a Thai language site, spam bombing just the rec,
> >I will let the speculation begin.
> It's been bombing comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++, comp.arch for a couple
> of months now. Google finally made all three read-only, and that
> has pretty much eliminated the spam posts there. There are many other
> groups that are also affected.

If the groups are set to read-only wouldn't that eliminate 100% of new posts,
basically turning the groups into archives?

If the asshat has a goal of shutting down certain (or eventually all) usenet
groups, then making the groups read-only means that the asshat has won.

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 by: hubops@ccanoemail.com - Tue, 21 Nov 2023 23:21 UTC

On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:45:28 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
<teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 9:59:51?AM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Markem618 <mark...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> >On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 18:09:44 -0500, hub...@ccanoemail.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 13:20:26 -0600, Markem618 <mark...@hotmail.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:29:43 -0800 (PST), Sonny <cedar...@aol.com>
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I think this has happened before, when turmoil erupted in the Middle East. I suspect it's Middle Eastern trolls flooding many sites with their philosophy.
>> >>>
>> >>>Actually it is a Thai language site, it is hosted by Go Daddy.
>> >>>Complaints to ab...@godaddy.com about tga168.net spam.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if that would help at all ?
>> >> It must be spam-bots creating all the google group postings -
>> >>so even if godaddy suspended the web site, the spam bots
>> >>would carry on their dastardly mission .. ?
>> >> John T.
>> >>
>> >Go Daddy is more likely to have and effect than google. Though the bot
>> >is only posting to the rec.
>> >
>> >So it is very strange a Thai language site, spam bombing just the rec,
>> >I will let the speculation begin.
>> It's been bombing comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++, comp.arch for a couple
>> of months now. Google finally made all three read-only, and that
>> has pretty much eliminated the spam posts there. There are many other
>> groups that are also affected.
>
>If the groups are set to read-only wouldn't that eliminate 100% of new posts,
>basically turning the groups into archives?
>
>If the asshat has a goal of shutting down certain (or eventually all) usenet
>groups, then making the groups read-only means that the asshat has won.

I took that to mean read only for google group folks -
not for others .. ? .. hopefully google groups doesn't yet
control all usenet ...
John T.

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