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Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine

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From: le@main.lekno.ws (Louis Epstein)
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Subject: Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2023 10:23:54 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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 by: Louis Epstein - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 10:23 UTC

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threads inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> erasing the news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the 404th day of the invasion (a much bloodier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pace,as my old thread noted, than American losses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Vietnam,though less than the Russians lost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was passed on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 265,000 deaths were reached on day 558:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 270,000 deaths were reached on day 567:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/13/7419575/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 280,000 deaths were reached on day 589:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/5/7422709/
>>>>>> (a notable slowing of pace)
>>>>>
>>>>> 285,000 deaths were reached on day 597:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/13/7423932/
>>>>> (the pace picking up again)
>>>>
>>>> 290,000 deaths were reached on day 602:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/18/7424596/
>>>> (the pace has been rapid lately)
>>>
>>> (It has stayed thus,passing 292,000 on day 604)
>>
>> I realize some readers are interested in opinions other
>> than the official Ukrainian numbers I keep updated.
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/22/7425176/
>> quotes UK intelligence as believing "up to 290,000" (just
>> short of the number Ukraine reports as dead Russians) is
>> a plausible grand total of dead and wounded,though 100,000
>> of them would be "wounded...able to return to the battlefield
>> after recovery."...though this does NOT include mercenaries.
>
> I missed the 295,000 mark (day 608) due to Internet connection
> issues.
>
> 300,000 deaths were reached on day 615:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/31/7426472/

305,000 deaths were reached on day 620:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/5/7427243/


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains among them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ranked additions and some of these a year in arrears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before being identified),392 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And August 31 to 2751,it gets hard to track...
>>>>>>>>>> I am mainly updating from the Googledoc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> died together in a Ukrainian strike,others may have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been present too),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 145 LtCols,279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deleted,like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2482,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was reclassified),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 323 majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russian sources).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2586 total,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 69 colonels,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 328 majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 457 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2668 total,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2713 total,
>>>>>>>>>>> 71 colonels,342 majors,473 captains (no new lieutenant colonels this time).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now 2753,so 40 more since that update.
>>>>>>>>>> LtCols are up to 176,Majors to 345,Captains to 476.
>>>>>>>>>> Only difference from the graphic update is 2 more Senior Lieutenants(798).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2756 with 346 majors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2802 with
>>>>>>>> 73 colonels,177 lt-cols,349 majors,483 captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2857 with
>>>>>>> 74 colonels,178 lt-cols,353 majors,490 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2921 with
>>>>>> 359 majors,500 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2956 with
>>>>> 75 colonels,360 majors,506 captains.
>>>>
>>>> 2990 with
>>>> 180 lt-colonels,511 captains.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and am no longer able to read it off Twitter unless logged in,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (persists)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not even seeing a thumbnail now except as quoted by search engines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Twitter.
>>>>
>>>> A thumbnail can now be spotted at the Googledoc,
>>>> latest version has 2958 total.
>>>
>>> They updated the graphic for the 3000 milestone,per that
>>> thumbnail,with captains at 513,the 2 deaths verified
>>> since on the Googledoc being the 879th Senior Lieutenant
>>> and 537th Lieutenant.
>
> Latest graphic is 3040.

3070

> Googledoc is at 3060 total with 76 colonels,

3074 total

> 181 LtCols,367 majors,526 captains.

530 captains

> (the 3040 graphic had 182 lt-cols but one must
> have been reclassified afterward).
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seems to let me read only random older tweets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have been locked out of being able to log in since October
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last I saw the numbers were up on those I last quoted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2396 or so total,163 LtCols...)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently the missile that took out Major-General (Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-star,they have no "brigadier" rank and we have no "colonel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general") Goryachev took out some other brass as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -=-=-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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