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 by: Chuck Jackson - Mon, 18 Sep 2023 19:21 UTC

Here's a long shot.

I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.

I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.

I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
Thanks

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 by: comp.lang.forth - Mon, 18 Sep 2023 22:16 UTC

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:21:17 PM UTC-4, Chuck Jackson wrote:
> Here's a long shot.
>
> I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.
>
> I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.
>
> I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
> Thanks

Did you have a question? I don't know what became of it.

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 by: Chuck Jackson - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 00:31 UTC

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:16:09 PM UTC-5, comp.lang.forth wrote:
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:21:17 PM UTC-4, Chuck Jackson wrote:
> > Here's a long shot.
> >
> > I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.
> >
> > I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.
> >
> > I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
> > Thanks
> Did you have a question? I don't know what became of it.
>
> --
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> Rick C.
>
> - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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Well that was a stupid posting!!!

I meant to ASK if anybody had a disk image of it??

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On 19/09/2023 5:21 am, Chuck Jackson wrote:
> Here's a long shot.
>
> I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.
>
> I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.
>
> I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
> Thanks

Victor-FORTH may have assumed the same fate as Atila Forth referenced in the
book 'Library of FORTH Routines and Utilities'. According to the mail-order
form, Atila Forth was available for the IBM-PC, Apple II, Commodore 64/128,
Atari 520 and Amiga. If so, it's vanished without a trace.

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> I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983).

Maybe it would be a good idea to scan the book and to put its PDF it on web archive?

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On 19/09/2023 8:19 pm, comp.lang.forth wrote:
>> I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983).
>
> Maybe it would be a good idea to scan the book and to put its PDF it on web archive?

It appears the author had a Forth column (4th Tip) in the Exidy Sorcerer user newsletter.
These reference LMI's Z80 Forth for CP/M (*)

http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V3N6_Sep1981.pdf
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V3N7_Oct1981.pdf
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N1_Jan1982.pdf
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N2_Mar1982.pdf
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N3_Apr1982.pdf
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N4_Jun1982.pdf

(*) http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/cpm/Software/rlee/F/FORTH/BIG_Z80/

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 by: Chuck Jackson - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 13:52 UTC

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:05:53 AM UTC-5, dxf wrote:
> On 19/09/2023 8:19 pm, comp.lang.forth wrote:
> >> I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983).
> >
> > Maybe it would be a good idea to scan the book and to put its PDF it on web archive?
> It appears the author had a Forth column (4th Tip) in the Exidy Sorcerer user newsletter.
> These reference LMI's Z80 Forth for CP/M (*)
>
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V3N6_Sep1981.pdf
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V3N7_Oct1981.pdf
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N1_Jan1982.pdf
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N2_Mar1982.pdf
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N3_Apr1982.pdf
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/exidy/Sorcerers_Apprentice/Sorcerers_Apprentice_V4N4_Jun1982.pdf
>
> (*) http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/cpm/Software/rlee/F/FORTH/BIG_Z80/
Thank you for the links! The first edition of his book was written for the Exidy but it "died" so he aquired a Victor 9000.

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 by: comp.lang.forth - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 15:45 UTC

> >> I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983).
> >
> > Maybe it would be a good idea to scan the book and to put its PDF it on web archive?
> It appears the author had a Forth column (4th Tip) in the Exidy Sorcerer user newsletter.

Almost $1000 in 1978… really „nice” money at that time.

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 by: dxf - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 02:37 UTC

On 20/09/2023 1:45 am, comp.lang.forth wrote:
>>>> I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983).
>>>
>>> Maybe it would be a good idea to scan the book and to put its PDF it on web archive?
>> It appears the author had a Forth column (4th Tip) in the Exidy Sorcerer user newsletter.
>
> Almost $1000 in 1978… really „nice” money at that time.

What Huang's book is worth now? Despite appearing alongside other forth books
of the day, there's scant reference today. That it made it to two editions
suggests it was somewhat popular. Can't imagine there'd have been many
Victor 9000 owners, though.

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 by: Zbig - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 07:54 UTC

> What Huang's book is worth now?

Never read it — so I have no idea. But considering the
scarcity of Forth books it's worth preservation, I suppose.

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 by: dxf - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 03:38 UTC

On 19/09/2023 5:21 am, Chuck Jackson wrote:
> Here's a long shot.
>
> I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.
>
> I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.
>
> I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
> Thanks

Perhaps you've already seen this:

https://archive.org/details/@pauldevine

One forth is listed though not the one you're after.

The above link was referenced here:

https://stardot.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23831

There still appear to be some Victor 9000 enthusiasts still about. Might be
worth contacting.

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 by: Lorem Ipsum - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:42 UTC

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:16:09 PM UTC-4, comp.lang.forth wrote:
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:21:17 PM UTC-4, Chuck Jackson wrote:
> > Here's a long shot.
> >
> > I have the book "And So Forth" by Timothy Huang (1983). The examples from his book are for his "newer and better machine": a Victor 9000 :-) And the forth is Victor-FORTH 1.32/48.
> >
> > I'm thinking I might be able to put together a virtual victor 9000 (MAME roms?) but I cannot find any Victor-Forth software. I have found 2 FORTHS for the 9000, MVP and some other Forth but not Victor-FORTH.
> >
> > I actually had a Victor 9000 back in the 80's. I'm sure that all I ever did with it was play with dbaseII on it in CP/M-86. I have no idea what became of it.
> > Thanks
> Did you have a question? I don't know what became of it.
>
> --
>
> Rick C.
>
> - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

I don't get what happened. I use Google groups to post here, and somehow the post I'm replying to shows up as being from comp.language.forth. Is that what others see? What name is this post from? I'm not talking about the signatures, but rather the headers.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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 by: dxf - Thu, 21 Sep 2023 05:20 UTC

On 21/09/2023 2:42 pm, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:16:09 PM UTC-4, comp.lang.forth wrote:
> ...
> I don't get what happened. I use Google groups to post here, and somehow the post I'm replying to shows up as being from comp.language.forth. Is that what others see? What name is this post from? I'm not talking about the signatures, but rather the headers.
>

Google Groups having a Biden moment and forgetting your username?

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> What name is this post from? I'm not talking about the signatures, but rather the headers.

Sophia Loren… no, wait — from „Lorem Ipsum”, that's right.

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