hello

Where to find a tutorial for gforth application GUI creation ?

I started from https://gforth.org/manual/MINOS2.html but it doesn't feet teh need.

Please do not propose me another forth interpretor this is not currently the question :)

Please do not push to minos -> even 0.7.9 examples are not usable as far as they are not correctly written to be a tutorial to learn from.

I tryied te use also http://irdvo.nl/FFL/GTKserver.html but author mentionned on his GITHUB page -> he will never more work on it and it is already obsolete & partially not warking with bugs far example clasing any application crashes GTK because a GTK instruction used is no more existing.

So I would get another solution a real one for linux (x86) that have a tutorial more ar less for dummies about GUI's

Can you provide a link to such a documentation ? using either TK/GTK/minos GUI interpretors

thanks

gobli...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2023 um 14:51:15 UTC+2:
> hello
>
> Where to find a tutorial for gforth application GUI creation ?

My 5 cents on this:
GTK is huge and often used within C programs:
https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/getting_started.html
Create your GUI and call gforth from your C program,
e.g. on button events, as described in the gforth manual.
IOW separate the GUI from application scripting in Forth.

In article <e0bfef62-2e09-478d-a9e4-0a9555dcdfb1n@googlegroups.com>,
gobli...@gmail.com <goblinrieur@gmail.com> wrote:
>hello
>
>Where to find a tutorial for gforth application GUI creation ?
>
>I started from https://gforth.org/manual/MINOS2.html but it doesn't feet
>teh need.
>
>Please do not propose me another forth interpretor this is not currently
>the question :)
>
>Please do not push to minos -> even 0.7.9 examples are not usable as far
>as they are not correctly written to be a tutorial to learn from.
>
>I tryied te use also http://irdvo.nl/FFL/GTKserver.html but author
>mentionned on his GITHUB page -> he will never more work on it and it is
>already obsolete & partially not warking with bugs far example clasing
>any application crashes GTK because a GTK instruction used is no more
>existing.
>
>So I would get another solution a real one for linux (x86) that have a
>tutorial more ar less for dummies about GUI's
>
>Can you provide a link to such a documentation ? using either
>TK/GTK/minos GUI interpretors

I want to follow up on that. It is easy to download gforth on an
android system. Is their any example of a program using that
gforth, preferably using android facilities.

>
>thanks
>
--
Don't praise the day before the evening. One swallow doesn't make spring.
You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the
hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in
the air. First gain is a cat spinning. - the Wise from Antrim -

In article <5dd0fa49-4892-417c-b85c-0df5e486985en@googlegroups.com>,
minforth <minforth@arcor.de> wrote:
>gobli...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2023 um 14:51:15 UTC+2:
>> hello
>>
>> Where to find a tutorial for gforth application GUI creation ?
>
>My 5 cents on this:
>GTK is huge and often used within C programs:
>https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/getting_started.html
>Create your GUI and call gforth from your C program,
>e.g. on button events, as described in the gforth manual.
>IOW separate the GUI from application scripting in Forth.

Creating the GUI is much preferred from within Forth.
I made a organ pipe design program in C#, with a keyboard
spanning several octaves. This was a huge hassle, because
all graphic elements have to created separately (white
and black keys.).

Groetjes Albert
--
Don't praise the day before the evening. One swallow doesn't make spring.
You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the
hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in
the air. First gain is a cat spinning. - the Wise from Antrim -

Le mercredi 18 octobre 2023 à 15:48:33 UTC+2, minforth a écrit :
> gobli...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2023 um 14:51:15 UTC+2:
> > hello
> >
> > Where to find a tutorial for gforth application GUI creation ?
> My 5 cents on this:
> GTK is huge and often used within C programs:
> https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/getting_started.html
> Create your GUI and call gforth from your C program,
> e.g. on button events, as described in the gforth manual.
> IOW separate the GUI from application scripting in Forth.

This is exactly what I want to avoid having to learn C or C++ during months or years just to drive GUI for GFORTH .....to be true

Le mercredi 18 octobre 2023 à 16:20:52 UTC+2, none albert a écrit :
> In article <5dd0fa49-4892-417c...@googlegroups.com>,
> minforth <minf...@arcor.de> wrote:
> >gobli...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2023 um 14:51:15 UTC+2:
> >> hello
> >>
> >> Where to find a tutorial for gforth application GUI creation ?
> >
> >My 5 cents on this:
> >GTK is huge and often used within C programs:
> >https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/getting_started.html
> >Create your GUI and call gforth from your C program,
> >e.g. on button events, as described in the gforth manual.
> >IOW separate the GUI from application scripting in Forth.
> Creating the GUI is much preferred from within Forth.
> I made a organ pipe design program in C#, with a keyboard
> spanning several octaves. This was a huge hassle, because
> all graphic elements have to created separately (white
> and black keys.).
>
> Groetjes Albert
> --
> Don't praise the day before the evening. One swallow doesn't make spring.
> You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the
> hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in
> the air. First gain is a cat spinning. - the Wise from Antrim -
This is exactly what I want to avoid having to learn C or C++ during months or years just to drive GUI for GFORTH .....to be true

Le mercredi 18 octobre 2023 à 16:17:27 UTC+2, none albert a écrit :
> In article <e0bfef62-2e09-478d...@googlegroups.com>,
> gobli...@gmail.com <gobli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >hello
> >
> >Where to find a tutorial for gforth application GUI creation ?
> >
> >I started from https://gforth.org/manual/MINOS2.html but it doesn't feet
> >teh need.
> >
> >Please do not propose me another forth interpretor this is not currently
> >the question :)
> >
> >Please do not push to minos -> even 0.7.9 examples are not usable as far
> >as they are not correctly written to be a tutorial to learn from.
> >
> >I tryied te use also http://irdvo.nl/FFL/GTKserver.html but author
> >mentionned on his GITHUB page -> he will never more work on it and it is
> >already obsolete & partially not warking with bugs far example clasing
> >any application crashes GTK because a GTK instruction used is no more
> >existing.
> >
> >So I would get another solution a real one for linux (x86) that have a
> >tutorial more ar less for dummies about GUI's
> >
> >Can you provide a link to such a documentation ? using either
> >TK/GTK/minos GUI interpretors
> I want to follow up on that. It is easy to download gforth on an
> android system. Is their any example of a program using that
> gforth, preferably using android facilities.
>
> >
> >thanks
> >
> --
> Don't praise the day before the evening. One swallow doesn't make spring.
> You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the
> hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in
> the air. First gain is a cat spinning. - the Wise from Antrim -

and so what I didn t say I want to use android here :)

Op woensdag 18 oktober 2023 om 14:51:15 UTC+2 schreef gobli...com:
> hello
>
> Where to find a tutorial for gforth application GUI creation ?
>
> I started from https://gforth.org/manual/MINOS2.html but it doesn't feet teh need.
>
> Please do not propose me another forth interpretor this is not currently the question :)
>
> Please do not push to minos -> even 0.7.9 examples are not usable as far as they are not correctly written to be a tutorial to learn from.
>
> I tryied te use also http://irdvo.nl/FFL/GTKserver.html but author mentionned on his GITHUB page -> he will never more work on it and it is already obsolete & partially not warking with bugs far example clasing any application crashes GTK because a GTK instruction used is no more existing.
>
> So I would get another solution a real one for linux (x86) that have a tutorial more ar less for dummies about GUI's
>
> Can you provide a link to such a documentation ? using either TK/GTK/minos GUI interpretors
>
> thanks

I use html as a gui under CForth, Gforth and Win32Forth.
It does not need if..then or case statements to decide
what button has been pushed.
For Gforth and Win32Forth see_demo1.f at:
https://github.com/Jos-Ven/A-smart-home-in-Forth/blob/main
for a simple example.
Jos