Hello,
Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/

On Sunday, 29 October 2023 at 14:08:24 UTC, Marc Petremann wrote:
> Hello,
> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/

Let's see how many turn up there - I did ...

On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
> Hello,
> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/

The trouble is, it's facebook.

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In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c-8ad2-9422048b9327n@googlegroups.com>,
Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
>
>The trouble is, it's facebook.

facebook is worse than google.
>
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>
> Rick C.
>
> - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the
hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in
the air. First gain is a cat spinning. - the Wise from Antrim -

On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 07:57:35 UTC, none albert wrote:
> In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c...@googlegroups.com>,
> Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
> >
> >The trouble is, it's facebook.
> facebook is worse than google.
> >
> >--
> >
> > Rick C.
> >
> > - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
> > - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
> --
> Don't praise the day before the evening. One swallow doesn't make spring.
> You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the
> hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in
> the air. First gain is a cat spinning. - the Wise from Antrim -

Sorry Albert, this is definitely a meaningless comment of yours.
Why did you post this?

In contrast to here,
administrators can delete silly comments and remove silly posters on facebook.
If you do not know facebook - how can you post a meaningful comment.
If you do know facebook, you should know better ...

Le lundi 30 octobre 2023 à 08:57:35 UTC+1, none albert a écrit :
> In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c...@googlegroups.com>,
> facebook is worse than google.

Bonjour,
Sur FACEBOOK, en plus du texte, vous pouvez poster des illustrations.
C'est une grande plus-value pour certaines publications.
Je rappelle le lien du groupe: https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth

Good morning,
On FACEBOOK, in addition to text, you can post illustrations.
This is a great added value for certain publications.
I remind you of the group link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth

On 30/10/2023 6:57 pm, albert wrote:
> In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c-8ad2-9422048b9327n@googlegroups.com>,
> Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
>>
>> The trouble is, it's facebook.
>
> facebook is worse than google.

Not to mention 'moderated' - which sounds nicer than 'controlling'.

On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 10:48:27 UTC, dxf wrote:
> On 30/10/2023 6:57 pm, albert wrote:
> > In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c...@googlegroups.com>,
> > Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
> >>
> >> The trouble is, it's facebook.
> >
> > facebook is worse than google.

> Not to mention 'moderated' - which sounds nicer than 'controlling'.

If I look at what happens here,
only controlled is the alternative.

Or - just stay away from this facebook group if you do not like it.

Marc tries to find a solution
- it seems you do not appreciate his work
and do not fit into this new group.
Probably fine for many people.

On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 12:09:24 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 10:48:27 UTC, dxf wrote:
> > On 30/10/2023 6:57 pm, albert wrote:
> > > In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
> > >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
> > >>
> > >> The trouble is, it's facebook.
> > >
> > > facebook is worse than google.
>
> > Not to mention 'moderated' - which sounds nicer than 'controlling'.
> If I look at what happens here,
> only controlled is the alternative.
>
> Or - just stay away from this facebook group if you do not like it.
>
> Marc tries to find a solution
> - it seems you do not appreciate his work
> and do not fit into this new group.
> Probably fine for many people.

And there is the other Forth facebook group for may years,
where nobody complains about controlled ...
https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/members

On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 8:24:31 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 12:09:24 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 10:48:27 UTC, dxf wrote:
> > > On 30/10/2023 6:57 pm, albert wrote:
> > > > In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
> > > >>> Hello,
> > > >>> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
> > > >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
> > > >>
> > > >> The trouble is, it's facebook.
> > > >
> > > > facebook is worse than google.
> >
> > > Not to mention 'moderated' - which sounds nicer than 'controlling'.
> > If I look at what happens here,
> > only controlled is the alternative.
> >
> > Or - just stay away from this facebook group if you do not like it.
> >
> > Marc tries to find a solution
> > - it seems you do not appreciate his work
> > and do not fit into this new group.
> > Probably fine for many people.
> And there is the other Forth facebook group for may years,
> where nobody complains about controlled ...
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/members

You mean because if you complain, you are booted? I know one forth group like that, run by the idiot.

--

Rick C.

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On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 19:03:20 UTC, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 8:24:31 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 12:09:24 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 10:48:27 UTC, dxf wrote:
> > > > On 30/10/2023 6:57 pm, albert wrote:
> > > > > In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
> > > > >>> Hello,
> > > > >>> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
> > > > >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The trouble is, it's facebook.
> > > > >
> > > > > facebook is worse than google.
> > >
> > > > Not to mention 'moderated' - which sounds nicer than 'controlling'.
> > > If I look at what happens here,
> > > only controlled is the alternative.
> > >
> > > Or - just stay away from this facebook group if you do not like it.
> > >
> > > Marc tries to find a solution
> > > - it seems you do not appreciate his work
> > > and do not fit into this new group.
> > > Probably fine for many people.
> > And there is the other Forth facebook group for may years,
> > where nobody complains about controlled ...
> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/members

> You mean because if you complain, you are booted? I know one forth group like that, run by the idiot.

There are thousands of facebook groups that work within their limits.
It seems you just do not want to support any.
Just stay away.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 2:49:29 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 19:03:20 UTC, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
> > On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 8:24:31 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 12:09:24 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 10:48:27 UTC, dxf wrote:
> > > > > On 30/10/2023 6:57 pm, albert wrote:
> > > > > > In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
> > > > > >>> Hello,
> > > > > >>> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
> > > > > >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The trouble is, it's facebook.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > facebook is worse than google.
> > > >
> > > > > Not to mention 'moderated' - which sounds nicer than 'controlling'.
> > > > If I look at what happens here,
> > > > only controlled is the alternative.
> > > >
> > > > Or - just stay away from this facebook group if you do not like it.
> > > >
> > > > Marc tries to find a solution
> > > > - it seems you do not appreciate his work
> > > > and do not fit into this new group.
> > > > Probably fine for many people.
> > > And there is the other Forth facebook group for may years,
> > > where nobody complains about controlled ...
> > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/members
>
>
> > You mean because if you complain, you are booted? I know one forth group like that, run by the idiot.
> There are thousands of facebook groups that work within their limits.
> It seems you just do not want to support any.
> Just stay away.

For what it's worth, I use GG and have no problem seeing the Forth posts and the spam and simply ignoring the latter.

-Doug

On 31/10/2023 5:49 pm, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 19:03:20 UTC, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
>> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 8:24:31 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
>>> On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 12:09:24 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 10:48:27 UTC, dxf wrote:
>>>>> On 30/10/2023 6:57 pm, albert wrote:
>>>>>> In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The trouble is, it's facebook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> facebook is worse than google.
>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention 'moderated' - which sounds nicer than 'controlling'.
>>>> If I look at what happens here,
>>>> only controlled is the alternative.
>>>>
>>>> Or - just stay away from this facebook group if you do not like it.
>>>>
>>>> Marc tries to find a solution
>>>> - it seems you do not appreciate his work
>>>> and do not fit into this new group.
>>>> Probably fine for many people.
>>> And there is the other Forth facebook group for may years,
>>> where nobody complains about controlled ...
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/members
>
>
>> You mean because if you complain, you are booted? I know one forth group like that, run by the idiot.
>
> There are thousands of facebook groups that work within their limits.
> It seems you just do not want to support any.
> Just stay away.

Everything is transactional. If one can't spot a bad deal - too bad.

On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 2:49:29 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 19:03:20 UTC, Lorem Ipsum wrote:
> > On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 8:24:31 AM UTC-4, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 12:09:24 UTC, Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > > > On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 10:48:27 UTC, dxf wrote:
> > > > > On 30/10/2023 6:57 pm, albert wrote:
> > > > > > In article <28da71aa-84f1-4c2c...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > > > > Lorem Ipsum <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 10:08:24 AM UTC-4, Marc Petremann wrote:
> > > > > >>> Hello,
> > > > > >>> Continue discussions on the new COMP LANG FORTH group on Facebook:
> > > > > >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/complangforth/
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The trouble is, it's facebook.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > facebook is worse than google.
> > > >
> > > > > Not to mention 'moderated' - which sounds nicer than 'controlling'.
> > > > If I look at what happens here,
> > > > only controlled is the alternative.
> > > >
> > > > Or - just stay away from this facebook group if you do not like it.
> > > >
> > > > Marc tries to find a solution
> > > > - it seems you do not appreciate his work
> > > > and do not fit into this new group.
> > > > Probably fine for many people.
> > > And there is the other Forth facebook group for may years,
> > > where nobody complains about controlled ...
> > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/PROGRAMMINGFORTH/members
>
>
> > You mean because if you complain, you are booted? I know one forth group like that, run by the idiot.
> There are thousands of facebook groups that work within their limits.
> It seems you just do not want to support any.
> Just stay away.

Very kind of you to offer. You are always the ray of sunshine in this group. :)

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Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> There are thousands of facebook groups that work within their limits.
> It seems you just do not want to support any.
> Just stay away.

In addition to being submitted to the whims of some moderator,
Facebook now requires users to submit personal identification.

I had an old still rather anonymous account which had been hijacked
this year by some criminal guy or group i.e. they changed the
passsword and replaced the contact email address by their own
in order to receive some "donations" from me. Well, p... off!

So don't tell anyone that FB is better ... it is worse.

On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 4:32:21 AM UTC-4, minforth wrote:
> Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
> > There are thousands of facebook groups that work within their limits.
> > It seems you just do not want to support any.
> > Just stay away.
> In addition to being submitted to the whims of some moderator,
> Facebook now requires users to submit personal identification.

Only some people. I created an account with a made up name, something silly, to use in a Forth group in Facebook. I don't recall the question I asked, but the guy running the group banned me with no discussion. Of course, it turned out to be a well known Forth troll. He even reported me for using a "fake" name. Seems Facebook doesn't allow that. So that account was banned from Facebook. They wanted me to send a photo of my driver's license to get an account!

Knowing this guy was using a fake name, I reported him from another account that used my real name. They didn't say this literally, but essentially, because he had been enrolled for some time, they didn't require him to prove his identity!

Some of this is insane.

> I had an old still rather anonymous account which had been hijacked
> this year by some criminal guy or group i.e. they changed the
> passsword and replaced the contact email address by their own
> in order to receive some "donations" from me. Well, p... off!
>
> So don't tell anyone that FB is better ... it is worse.

That's a risk of any web site, literally any. It's hard to find a web site that has not been compromised at some point.

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--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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Lorem Ipsum wrote:

> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 4:32:21 AM UTC-4, minforth wrote:
>> Jurgen Pitaske wrote:
>> > There are thousands of facebook groups that work within their limits.
>> > It seems you just do not want to support any.
>> > Just stay away.
>> In addition to being submitted to the whims of some moderator,
>> Facebook now requires users to submit personal identification.

> I don't recall the question I asked, but the guy running the group banned me with no discussion. Of course, it turned out to be a well known Forth troll.

Long-time clf followers know those trolls.
Many ex-followers have left clf annoyed or even disgusted.

IOW spam is nothing new here, be it troll or automated spam bot postings.

On 2/11/2023 10:39 pm, minforth wrote:
> Lorem Ipsum wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 4:32:21 AM UTC-4, minforth wrote:
>>> Jurgen Pitaske wrote: > There are thousands of facebook groups that work within their limits. > It seems you just do not want to support any. > Just stay away.
>>> In addition to being submitted to the whims of some moderator, Facebook now requires users to submit personal identification.
>
>> I don't recall the question I asked, but the guy running the group banned me with no discussion.  Of course, it turned out to be a well known Forth troll.
>
> Long-time clf followers know those trolls.
> Many ex-followers have left clf annoyed or even disgusted.

Annoyance and disgust is on a par with a sulk. If one wishes to express
superiority it needs to be done with flair and grace.