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by: L W - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 16:07 UTC

This is newish group site euro-centric in design with nice features.
And there is NO SPAM on Discord.
An alternative to F.B. or here (google groups) which has become un-managed, has a blown index and will not be active for posting in a couple months.

site addr: discord.com
group : Forth Interest Group
invite link : https://discord.gg/wgv7zdXN

Perhaps we try this and see ...

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by: David Schultz - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 16:33 UTC

On 12/17/23 10:07 AM, L W wrote:
> This is newish group site euro-centric in design with nice features.
> And there is NO SPAM on Discord.
> An alternative to F.B. or here (google groups) which has become un-managed, has a blown index and will not be active for posting in a couple months.
>
> site addr: discord.com
> group : Forth Interest Group
> invite link : https://discord.gg/wgv7zdXN
>
> Perhaps we try this and see ...

While Google is shutting down their operation, comp.lang.forth will
continue on. Find a Usenet server.

comp.lang.forth has never been managed. :-)

--
http://davesrocketworks.com
David Schultz

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by: LIT - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 16:59 UTC

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by: Anton Ertl - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 17:18 UTC

zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) writes:
>> Perhaps we try this and see ...
>
>At the moment registered at NovaBBS -- but of course having another way won't hurt

NovaBBS provides Usenet (including comp.lang.forth) access.

Discord doesn't. It seems to be another attempt (after the Facebook
group one) to collect Google Groups users who are unaware that
comp.lang.forth exists independently of Google Groups (and also
independently of the spam rampant on the Google Groups mirror of
comp.lang.forth).

- anton
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by: mhx - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 17:35 UTC

LIT wrote:
[..]
> At the moment registered at NovaBBS -- but of course having another way won't hurt

https://www.novabbs.com/devel/ is indeed very nice. No spam, perfect UI, and the trolls
and their Feldwebel have moved to FB.

-marcel

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by: yeti - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 17:43 UTC

Reasons not to use the Discord communications system
2017, 2018, 2019 Richard Stallman

Discord Is Not An Acceptable Choice For Free Software Projects
2020-02-20 Jeffrey Paul

Please don't use Discord for FOSS projects
2021-12-28 Drew DeVault

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by: LIT - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 18:26 UTC

Anton Ertl wrote:

> zbigniew2011@gmail.com (LIT) writes:
>>> Perhaps we try this and see ...
>>
>>At the moment registered at NovaBBS -- but of course having another way won't hurt

> NovaBBS provides Usenet (including comp.lang.forth) access.

> Discord doesn't. It seems to be another attempt (after the Facebook
> group one) to collect Google Groups users who are unaware that
> comp.lang.forth exists independently of Google Groups (and also
> independently of the spam rampant on the Google Groups mirror of
> comp.lang.forth).

Thanks.

If I may ask: it's better to avoid quoting including e-mail address,
because it results in increased inbox spam (so-called "harvesters"
at work, you know). It's the setting of your reader usually
--
Z.

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by: sjack - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 15:17 UTC

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by: Bernd Linsel - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 19:02 UTC

On 17.12.2023 17:07, L W wrote:
> This is newish group site euro-centric in design with nice features.
> And there is NO SPAM on Discord.
> An alternative to F.B. or here (google groups) which has become un-managed, has a blown index and will not be active for posting in a couple months.
>

[snip commercial junk]

>
> Perhaps we try this and see ...

THIS is not Google Groups, THIS is Usenet, and it's not shutting down,
only Google's embrace-extend-commercialize attempt foundered finally.

When Usenet is no longer accessible via Google's servers, the deluge of
spam will cease by itself-

It can only be beneficial for the whole community when people learn
again to access Usenet via regular news servers, and learn to use proper
news readers.

If your internet provider does not offer news server access, there is a
viable alternative at

https://www.eternal-september.org/

requiring only a registration via e-Mail. Otherwise, it's free (as in
free beer) and free (as in free speech).

Regards,
--
Bernd Linsel

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by: LogicWeavers - Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:28 UTC

Are you having fun yet?

devel / comp.lang.forth / Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down

Subject	Author
To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	L W
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	David Schultz
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	LIT
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	Anton Ertl
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	LIT
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	LogicWeavers
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	mhx
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	LogicWeavers
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	yeti
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	sjack
Re: To All - A New Place as Groups begins shut down	Bernd Linsel