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SubjectAuthor
* Tutanota HoneypotFritz Wuehler
+- Tutanota HoneypotD
+- Tutanota HoneypotStefan Claas
`* Tutanota HoneypotStefan Claas
 `* Tutanota HoneypotAnonymous
  `* Tutanota HoneypotStefan Claas
   `* Tutanota HoneypotAnonymous
    `* Tutanota HoneypotStefan Claas
     +* Tutanota HoneypotAnonymous
     |+- Tutanota HoneypotD
     |`- Tutanota HoneypotStefan Claas
     `* Tutanota HoneypotAnonymous
      `- Tutanota HoneypotStefan Claas

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Tutanota Honeypot

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 by: Fritz Wuehler - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 09:52 UTC

Tutanota will not allow sign up using Tor! They want your IP. Fuck Tutanota!

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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 by: D - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 13:44 UTC

On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 11:52:09 +0200, Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-202310.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
>Tutanota will not allow sign up using Tor! They want your IP. Fuck Tutanota!

no one would dare test a big brother storefront . . . avoid not evade

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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From: stefan@mailchuck.com (Stefan Claas)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: Tutanota Honeypot
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 20:18:20 -0000
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
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 by: Stefan Claas - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 20:18 UTC

Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>
> Tutanota will not allow sign up using Tor! They want your IP. Fuck Tutanota!

What happens if you use Bitmessage, for creating a Mailchuck account and
then fire up Tor Browser, visit mailfence.com and register there via Tor
with your Mailchuck email address?

Regards
Stefan

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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Subject: Re: Tutanota Honeypot
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 by: Stefan Claas - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 20:20 UTC

Fritz Wuehler wrote:
>
> Tutanota will not allow sign up using Tor! They want your IP. Fuck Tutanota!

What happens if you use Bitmessage, for creating a Mailchuck account and
then fire up Tor Browser, visit mailfence.com and register there via Tor,
with your Mailchuck email address?

Regards
Stefan

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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Subject: Re: Tutanota Honeypot
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 13:47:46 +0000 (UTC)
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 by: Anonymous - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 13:47 UTC

>
> What happens if you use Bitmessage, for creating a Mailchuck account and
> then fire up Tor Browser, visit mailfence.com and register there via Tor,
> with your Mailchuck email address?
>

What is a "Mailchuck account"?

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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From: stefan@mailchuck.com (Stefan Claas)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: Tutanota Honeypot
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 16:57:25 +0200
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
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 by: Stefan Claas - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 14:57 UTC

Anonymous wrote:

> >
> > What happens if you use Bitmessage, for creating a Mailchuck
> > account and then fire up Tor Browser, visit mailfence.com and
> > register there via Tor, with your Mailchuck email address?
> >
>
> What is a "Mailchuck account"?

You can register a free Mailchuck email address, within your
Bitmessage client, when you right-click on your BM address.

If you have also bitcoin, you can then use a paid Mailchuck
account, to send email messages. The standard one is for
receiving emails only.

Regards
Stefan

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 by: Anonymous - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 18:50 UTC

>
> You can register a free Mailchuck email address, within your
> Bitmessage client, when you right-click on your BM address.
>
But I don't find any news about Mailchuck on internet.
Mailchuck has a website?
mailchuck.com does not work, I can't reach it.

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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From: stefanclaas@iris.to (Stefan Claas)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: Tutanota Honeypot
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 21:29:51 +0200
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 by: Stefan Claas - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 19:29 UTC

Anonymous wrote:

> >
> > You can register a free Mailchuck email address, within your
> > Bitmessage client, when you right-click on your BM address.
> >
> But I don't find any news about Mailchuck on internet.
> Mailchuck has a website?
> mailchuck.com does not work, I can't reach it.
>

$ telnet mailchuck.com 25
Trying 85.114.135.102...
Connected to mailchuck.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mx1.mailchuck.com ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
QUIT
221 2.0.0 Bye
Connection closed by foreign host.

Like I said, you have to register via Bitmessage.

Regards
Stefan

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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 by: Anonymous - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 17:01 UTC

>
> Like I said, you have to register via Bitmessage.
>

On https://wiki.bitmessage.org/
two version are available: 32 and 64 bit.

64bit seems dead, it does not start, it does nothing.

32bit seems alive.

The strange thing is the disclaimer: "A remote code execution
vulnerability has been spotted in use against some users running
PyBitmessage v0.6.2. The cause was identified and a fix has been added
and released as 0.6.3.2 here. If you run PyBitmessage via code, we
highly recommend that you upgrade to 0.6.3.2. Alternatively you may
downgrade to 0.6.1 which is unaffected. Bitmessage developer Peter
Šurda's Bitmessage addresses are to be considered compromised. "

The only version available is from 2016.

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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 by: D - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 17:47 UTC

On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 17:01:26 +0000 (UTC), Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> wrote:
>On https://wiki.bitmessage.org/
>two version are available: 32 and 64 bit.
>64bit seems dead, it does not start, it does nothing.
>32bit seems alive.
>The strange thing is the disclaimer: "A remote code execution
> vulnerability has been spotted in use against some users running
> PyBitmessage v0.6.2. The cause was identified and a fix has been added
> and released as 0.6.3.2 here. If you run PyBitmessage via code, we
> highly recommend that you upgrade to 0.6.3.2. Alternatively you may
> downgrade to 0.6.1 which is unaffected. Bitmessage developer Peter
> Surda's Bitmessage addresses are to be considered compromised. "
>The only version available is from 2016.

whole message encryption https://www.danner-net.de/omom/tutorwme.htm
is probably the minimum standard for acceptable risk in this day and
age, but for less serious users simply posting plain text to popular
newsgroups, using remailers to send unencrypted messages works great
with tor; but no one should use anything touted by storefront agents

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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 by: Stefan Claas - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 17:57 UTC

Anonymous wrote:

> >
> > Like I said, you have to register via Bitmessage.
> >
>
> On https://wiki.bitmessage.org/
> two version are available: 32 and 64 bit.
>
> 64bit seems dead, it does not start, it does nothing.
>
> 32bit seems alive.
>
> The strange thing is the disclaimer: "A remote code execution
> vulnerability has been spotted in use against some users running
> PyBitmessage v0.6.2. The cause was identified and a fix has been
> added and released as 0.6.3.2 here. If you run PyBitmessage via code,
> we highly recommend that you upgrade to 0.6.3.2. Alternatively you may
> downgrade to 0.6.1 which is unaffected. Bitmessage developer Peter
> Šurda's Bitmessage addresses are to be considered compromised. "
>
> The only version available is from 2016.

Try the release from GitHub.

<https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage/releases> (Feb 2018)

Regards
Stefan

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 20:21:31 +0000 (UTC)
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 by: Anonymous - Mon, 23 Oct 2023 20:21 UTC

Stefan Claas wrote:
>
> Like I said, you have to register via Bitmessage.
>
> Regards
> Stefan

I downloaded Bitmessage from
https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage/releases/download/v0.6.1
/Bitmessage-0.6.1_64.exe

I installed it, but nothing happened, it only created a text file
qt.conf in the folder in which was Bitmessage-0.6.1_64.exe

The content of qt.conf file is

[Paths]
Prefix = C:/Users/JOHN/AppData/Local/Temp/_MEI41~1/PyQt4
Binaries = C:/Users/JOHN/AppData/Local/Temp/_MEI41~1/PyQt4

Re: Tutanota Honeypot

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From: stefanclaas@iris.to (Stefan Claas)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: Tutanota Honeypot
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 13:11:35 +0200
Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org)
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 by: Stefan Claas - Tue, 24 Oct 2023 11:11 UTC

Anonymous wrote:

> Stefan Claas wrote:
> >
> > Like I said, you have to register via Bitmessage.
> >
> > Regards
> > Stefan
>
> I downloaded Bitmessage from
> https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage/releases/download/v0.6.1
> /Bitmessage-0.6.1_64.exe
>
> I installed it, but nothing happened, it only created a text file
> qt.conf in the folder in which was Bitmessage-0.6.1_64.exe
>
> The content of qt.conf file is
>
> [Paths]
> Prefix = C:/Users/JOHN/AppData/Local/Temp/_MEI41~1/PyQt4
> Binaries = C:/Users/JOHN/AppData/Local/Temp/_MEI41~1/PyQt4

Does the UI shows up, so that you can create (bottom left) a new
Identity and that you can subcribe to a chan, like 'test'?

Regards
Stefan


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