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Severe fuckup in Firefox

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From: wed@retrobbs.synchro.net (wed)
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Subject: Severe fuckup in Firefox
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:53:07 -0700
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 by: wed - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:53 UTC

https://superuser.com/questions/1250944/how-can-this-website-reidentify-me-even
-after-deleting-all-of-my-browsers-histo

Looks like Firefox does not do what its told when the user tries to delete part
of the browser history. As a result, tracking of users is even more easy.

Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox

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Subject: Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2017 10:45:26 +0000
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 by: wed - Sun, 8 Oct 2017 10:45 UTC

And again Firefox fucks up, this time voluntarily:

https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-in-firefox/

Every 100th user gets some surveillance addon with his/her download.

Despicable.

Fuck, I don't want to use chrome either. Not much left if Firefox goes on like that.

Maybe I have to look at Opera again ?
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Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox

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From: retro.guy@retrobbs.synchro.net (Retro Guy)
To: wed
Subject: Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 02:14:24 -0700
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 by: Retro Guy - Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:14 UTC

On 10/08/2017 03:45 AM, wed wrote:
> And again Firefox fucks up, this time voluntarily:
>
> https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-in-firefox/
>
> Every 100th user gets some surveillance addon with his/her download.
>
> Despicable.
>
> Fuck, I don't want to use chrome either. Not much left if Firefox goes
> on like that.
>
> Maybe I have to look at Opera again ?
> Posted on def.i2p

Why am I actually surprised. I'd think I'd learn by now.

I really hate the way browser developers (and os developers) want to
integrate advertising directly into the product, instead of maybe
providing some awesome home page that people can choose to use and get
all the awesome features they provide.

I, of course, would choose not to use it, but it would be available for
the tremendous amount of people that would basically opt-in.

Retro Guy

Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox

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From: anonymous@def.i2p.org (anonymous)
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Subject: Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:53:52 +0000
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 by: anonymous - Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:53 UTC

I think it is worse than that. To enable all there advertising and make it effective, they have to know about you first, meaning your data are in a way part of the product.
I have read a study that Google is nowadays more likely to know that a woman is pregnant than her man or she herself. Just by analyzing the search requests of the respective woman gives a significant hit rate. This is fucking scary and can be misused in a zillion ways.
But if there are no good tools left to browse the www, I will probably just ditch it like I did with TV because of the commercials. :-))
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Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox

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From: retro.guy@retrobbs.synchro.net (Retro Guy)
To: anonymous
Subject: Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 05:41:26 -0700
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 by: Retro Guy - Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:41 UTC

On 10/10/2017 03:53 AM, anonymous wrote:
> I think it is worse than that. To enable all there advertising and make
> it effective, they have to know about you first, meaning your data are
> in a way part of the product.
> I have read a study that Google is nowadays more likely to know that a
> woman is pregnant than her man or she herself. Just by analyzing the
> search requests of the respective woman gives a significant hit rate.
> This is fucking scary and can be misused in a zillion ways.
> But if there are no good tools left to browse the www, I will probably
> just ditch it like I did with TV because of the commercials. :-))
> Posted on def.i2p

Yes, the way advertising is effective (they believe) is to know as much
as possible about you, and they try very hard to do so.

They can say all they want about how it's secure and they won't tell
anybody, but a subpoena is different. A post I made previously in
another thread fits here, "I'm not doing anything wrong, so I don't
care", is an attitude that really bothers me. That's the attitude that
allows all this crap to take place.

People are conditioned to associate an attitude toward privacy with
guilt of some kind. "Why are you so secretive? What have you done?"

Intelligent people who I know, and I'm sure you know some also, have
this attitude, and look down on those who balk at intrusion into
personal lives.

I could go on all day on this subject, it truly irritates me.

Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox

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Subject: Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox
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 by: Anonymous - Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:02 UTC

yeah, carelessness is a big part of the problem. technical
ignorance is another. most people don't realize that data is
not deleted anymore, ever. whatever you do in the clearnet,
it is logged forever.

Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox

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Subject: Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox
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 by: wed - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:25 UTC

> like this bitching forum!
why, thanks for the props.
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Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox

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Subject: Re: Severe fuckup in Firefox
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 by: Nomad Public - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:11 UTC

The only browsers that do not do that are text! Most do that anyway. I download flatpaks developers for one time use if I have to log into something important like this bitching forum!
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