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* After the storm, hopefullyCharlie Gibbs
+- After the storm, hopefullygreymaus
+- After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
+- After the storm, hopefullyKerr-Mudd, John
+- After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
+- After the storm, hopefullyMike Spencer
+* After the storm, hopefullyD.J.
|`* After the storm, hopefullyVir Campestris
| +- After the storm, hopefullyDan Espen
| `* After the storm, hopefullyD.J.
|  `* After the storm, hopefullyVir Campestris
|   `- After the storm, hopefullyD.J.
+* After the storm, hopefullyAndreas Kohlbach
|`* After the storm, hopefullyRockinghorse Winner
| `* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
|  `- After the storm, hopefullyRockinghorse Winner
+* After the storm, hopefullyjohnson
|`* After the storm, hopefullyJoe Makowiec
| +* After the storm, hopefullygreymaus
| |`* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | +* After the storm, hopefullygreymaus
| | |+* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||+* After the storm, hopefullygreymaus
| | |||`- After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||`* After the storm, hopefullyAndy Burns
| | || `* After the storm, hopefullyKurt Weiske
| | ||  `* After the storm, hopefullyVir Campestris
| | ||   +* After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |+* After the storm, hopefullyCarlos E.R.
| | ||   ||`* After the storm, hopefullyAndy Burns
| | ||   || `- After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |+* After the storm, hopefullyKurt Weiske
| | ||   ||`- After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |`* After the storm, hopefullyVir Campestris
| | ||   | `* After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |  `* After the storm, hopefullyVir Campestris
| | ||   |   `* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |    `* After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |     +* After the storm, hopefullyjohnson
| | ||   |     |`- After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |     `* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |      `* After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
| | ||   |       +* After the storm, hopefullyCarlos E.R.
| | ||   |       |`* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |       | +* After the storm, hopefullyKurt Weiske
| | ||   |       | |`- After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |       | `* After the storm, hopefullyAlexander Schreiber
| | ||   |       |  +- After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |       |  `* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |       |   +* After the storm, hopefullyCharlie Gibbs
| | ||   |       |   |+- After the storm, hopefullyDan Espen
| | ||   |       |   |`- After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
| | ||   |       |   `- After the storm, hopefullyAlexander Schreiber
| | ||   |       `* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |        `* After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
| | ||   |         +* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |         |`* After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
| | ||   |         | +* After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |         | |`* After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
| | ||   |         | | `* After the storm, hopefullyCarlos E.R.
| | ||   |         | |  `* After the storm, hopefullyAndy Burns
| | ||   |         | |   `* After the storm, hopefullyCarlos E.R.
| | ||   |         | |    `* After the storm, hopefullyVir Campestris
| | ||   |         | |     +* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |         | |     |+* After the storm, hopefullyJohnny Billquist
| | ||   |         | |     ||`* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |         | |     || +* After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |         | |     || |+* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |         | |     || ||`- After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
| | ||   |         | |     || |+- After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |         | |     || |`* After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
| | ||   |         | |     || | +* After the storm, hopefullyDan Espen
| | ||   |         | |     || | |+* After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||+* After the storm, hopefullyDan Espen
| | ||   |         | |     || | |||`- After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||`* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |         | |     || | || `* After the storm, hopefullyVir Campestris
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||  +- After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||  `* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||   `* After the storm, hopefullyVir Campestris
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||    `* After the storm, hopefullyKerr-Mudd, John
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     +* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     |`* After the storm, hopefullyKerr-Mudd, John
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     | `* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     |  +* After the storm, hopefullyKerr-Mudd, John
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     |  |`* stacking blocks After the storm, hopefullyJohn Levine
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     |  | `* stacking blocks After the storm, hopefullyAnne & Lynn Wheeler
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     |  |  `- not stacking blocks After the storm, hopefullyJohn Levine
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     |  `* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     |   `* After the storm, hopefullyAndy Burns
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     |    `- After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |         | |     || | ||     `- After the storm, hopefullyCharlie Gibbs
| | ||   |         | |     || | |+- After the storm, hopefullyCarlos E.R.
| | ||   |         | |     || | |`- After the storm, hopefullyD.J.
| | ||   |         | |     || | `- After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |         | |     || `* After the storm, hopefullyPeter Flass
| | ||   |         | |     ||  `* After the storm, hopefullyCharlie Gibbs
| | ||   |         | |     ||   +* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |         | |     ||   |`- After the storm, hopefullymaus
| | ||   |         | |     ||   `- After the storm, hopefullyDan Espen
| | ||   |         | |     |`* After the storm, hopefullyVir Campestris
| | ||   |         | |     +- After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |         | |     `- After the storm, hopefullyKurt Weiske
| | ||   |         | `* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |         +* After the storm, hopefullyCharlie Gibbs
| | ||   |         +* After the storm, hopefullyAhem A Rivet's Shot
| | ||   |         `* After the storm, hopefullyKurt Weiske
| | ||   `- After the storm, hopefullyKurt Weiske
| | |`* After the storm, hopefullyScott Lurndal
| | `- After the storm, hopefullyMike Spencer
| `* After the storm, hopefullygareth evans
+- After the storm, hopefullyCarlos E.R.
+* After the storm, hopefullyRich Alderson
+- After the storm, hopefullyJan van den Broek
+* After the storm, hopefullyJoe Pfeiffer
+* After the storm, hopefullyAnt
`* After the storm, hopefullyMarco Moock

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Re: After the storm, hopefully

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From: cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs)
Subject: Re: After the storm, hopefully
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 by: Charlie Gibbs - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 20:34 UTC

On 2023-02-11, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 18:07:55 GMT
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Driving in front of any car with the new crop of high-intensity
>> headlights is almost as bad, though.
>
> Having mandatory inspections where the alignment of the headlights
> is checked helps a lot with that, but even so I wish they'd turn down the
> colour temperature by at least 2000 degrees, the overly blue light is hard
> on the eyes.

Mandatory inspections ceased here in B.C. in 1982, when the provincial
government closed down all vehicle inspection stations as a cost-saving
measure. When the stations were active, it was taken for granted that
you'd flunk due to headlights, and there was a service station around
the corner from each inspection station that could do fast, accurate
headlight adjustment.

Recently I needed a new headlamp for my car. The supplier had a little
machine on which you could press buttons to navigate through a series
of screens to find your make and model and a list of headlamps which
were appropriate replacements. I noticed that a number of them contained
a note saying "Valid only in Canada and Mexico." Presumably the U.S. has
more stringent requirements, and some lamps are just too bright. Indeed,
on a road trip to Utah this summer, I noticed while driving at night that
other cars' headlights weren't nearly as obnoxious as they are here at
home - at least until we were coming back up through Washington state,
where the number of overly-bright lights increased, probably due to an
increasing number of Canadian tourists on the road.

I agree with you about the colour temperature, though. 4000K max.

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult.
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | Linux is anarchy.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | Pick your poison.

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 21:22 UTC

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 20:34:08 GMT
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> Mandatory inspections ceased here in B.C. in 1982, when the provincial

It didn't start in Ireland until eighteen years after it stopped in
B.C.

= I noticed that a number of them contained
> a note saying "Valid only in Canada and Mexico." Presumably the U.S. has
> more stringent requirements, and some lamps are just too bright.

It might not just be brightness, I don't know about the US but in
Ireland and the UK headlights have to be focused, there are distinct focus
patterns for dipped and full beams. One of the reasons that early LED
replacement bulbs were illegal here was that they emitted light in a
different place to the halogen bulbs the headlights were designed for and
thus produced the wrong beam pattern.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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 by: Charlie Gibbs - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 22:36 UTC

On 2023-02-11, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 20:34:08 GMT
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Mandatory inspections ceased here in B.C. in 1982, when the provincial
>
> It didn't start in Ireland until eighteen years after it stopped in
> B.C.
>
>= I noticed that a number of them contained
>> a note saying "Valid only in Canada and Mexico." Presumably the U.S. has
>> more stringent requirements, and some lamps are just too bright.
>
> It might not just be brightness, I don't know about the US but in
> Ireland and the UK headlights have to be focused, there are distinct focus
> patterns for dipped and full beams. One of the reasons that early LED
> replacement bulbs were illegal here was that they emitted light in a
> different place to the halogen bulbs the headlights were designed for and
> thus produced the wrong beam pattern.

I've noticed that a lot of the brightest headlights over here have
a very sharp cutoff at a given angle, at which the intensity of
the so-called low beam goes from merely objectionable to downright
hazardous. This angle is carefully set to be as high as possible
while still being (presumably) legal. If you're driving a monster
pickup truck (of the kind you thankfully have few of over there),
you're high enough to be out of the most intense part of someone
else's beam - while your own will hit everyone in smaller vehicles.
If you're in something like my 2007 Honda Civic, you're out of luck.
Mind you, if an oncoming vehicle is cresting a hill - or even hits
a small bump - you're going to get a full-power flash no matter what.

Automobile ads here really play up the bright headlights on the cars
they're selling. I guess it's considered sexy to blind oncoming traffic.

--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult.
X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | Linux is anarchy.
/ \ if you read it the right way. | Pick your poison.

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 by: Peter Flass - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 00:58 UTC

Alfred Falk <aefalk@telus.net> wrote:
> D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote in
> news:qg78uh1ms5jr3gdjnjuvjntkroo91jbe55@4ax.com:
>
>> On 8 Feb 2023 21:22:50 GMT, greymaus <greymaus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-02-08, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-02-08 19:37, D.J. wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 12:19:21 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Turns out they aren't impossible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They were impossible at the time of the asking. Engineers knew it
>>>>>> was just a matter of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then they should have said so, and not let someone else pretend
>>>>> otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> The newsboys asked the wrong people.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Couple of things since I last irritated y'all.
>>>
>>> Was there any connection between the transistor and what a lot of
>>> people used to use for the early radio's, the cat's whisker.
>>
>> Galena crystal is the cat's whisker. The leads on the crystal looked
>> like cat's whiskers.
>
> Technical nit:
> the cat's whisker was the stiff little wire that poked the galena crystal,
> forming the point contact.
>
>>> Newton, I think, wrote that "we are standing on the shoulders of
>>> giants", meaning that all that he did was founded on previous research.
>>>
>>> The breakthrough of phones. In being awarded the patent, Bell had to
>>> refer to the time difference between NY and Chicago. Several people
>>> were claiming that at around the same time.
>>>
>>> Teachers are telling me that children are now hard to teach, because
>>> they are distracted with their mobile phones.
>>
>> Relatives I have talked to, all cell phone must be off and put up,
>> none in class.
>
>

I built one of those from a kit, as a lad. My Dad told me he had built one
when radio was novelty.

--
Pete

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 by: Dave Yeo - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 05:02 UTC

Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> Recently I needed a new headlamp for my car. The supplier had a little
> machine on which you could press buttons to navigate through a series
> of screens to find your make and model and a list of headlamps which
> were appropriate replacements. I noticed that a number of them contained
> a note saying "Valid only in Canada and Mexico." Presumably the U.S. has
> more stringent requirements, and some lamps are just too bright. Indeed,
> on a road trip to Utah this summer, I noticed while driving at night that
> other cars' headlights weren't nearly as obnoxious as they are here at
> home - at least until we were coming back up through Washington state,
> where the number of overly-bright lights increased, probably due to an
> increasing number of Canadian tourists on the road.

My knowledge is likely way out of date, back in the day of sealed beams,
there were basically 2 types, DOT and ECE (European) IIRC. The DOT had
the 3 (or 4?) nibs for aiming. The European types had a different light
pattern that was much better in the rain and were illegal in most of
America. Washington (and Oregon?) was an exception due to the rain.
I remember getting some Bosch headlights for my '72 Datsun, they were
way better in the rain.
Dave

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 by: greymaus - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 07:50 UTC

On 2023-02-11, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 20:34:08 GMT
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Mandatory inspections ceased here in B.C. in 1982, when the provincial
>
> It didn't start in Ireland until eighteen years after it stopped in
> B.C.
>

My nephew is a vehicle inspector. During a still ongoing family argument, it
was noticed that he is harder (in inspections) on one side than the the other.

OTOH, I have picked up a daughter from the test center twice when they would
not, rightly, let her drive the car home.

Remember penney from the big bang theory

--
greymausg@mail.com
where is our money gone, Dude?

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 09:24 UTC

On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:58:39 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Alfred Falk <aefalk@telus.net> wrote:
> > D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> wrote in
> > news:qg78uh1ms5jr3gdjnjuvjntkroo91jbe55@4ax.com:
> >
> >> On 8 Feb 2023 21:22:50 GMT, greymaus <greymaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 2023-02-08, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> On 2023-02-08 19:37, D.J. wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 12:19:21 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Turns out they aren't impossible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They were impossible at the time of the asking. Engineers knew it
> >>>>>> was just a matter of time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then they should have said so, and not let someone else pretend
> >>>>> otherwise.
> >>>>
> >>>> The newsboys asked the wrong people.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Couple of things since I last irritated y'all.
> >>>
> >>> Was there any connection between the transistor and what a lot of
> >>> people used to use for the early radio's, the cat's whisker.
> >>
> >> Galena crystal is the cat's whisker. The leads on the crystal looked
> >> like cat's whiskers.
> >
> > Technical nit:
> > the cat's whisker was the stiff little wire that poked the galena crystal,
> > forming the point contact.
> >
> >>> Newton, I think, wrote that "we are standing on the shoulders of
> >>> giants", meaning that all that he did was founded on previous research.
> >>>
> >>> The breakthrough of phones. In being awarded the patent, Bell had to
> >>> refer to the time difference between NY and Chicago. Several people
> >>> were claiming that at around the same time.
> >>>
> >>> Teachers are telling me that children are now hard to teach, because
> >>> they are distracted with their mobile phones.
> >>
> >> Relatives I have talked to, all cell phone must be off and put up,
> >> none in class.
> >
> >
>
> I built one of those from a kit, as a lad. My Dad told me he had built one
> when radio was novelty.
>

Whoa! build yer own mobile!

Ah you mean a cat's whisker radio

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 12:35 UTC

On 2023-02-11 19:07, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2023-02-11, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-02-11 07:44, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:54:52 -0700
>>> Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bright damn blue LED. It's like having a nightlight.
>>>
>>> I have made extensive use of black insulating tape over such
>>> pointless power lights - some of the worst offenders got copper tape.
>>
>> Imagine driving behind a police car (new) with their blue lights fully
>> on. It hurts.
>
> Driving in front of any car with the new crop of high-intensity
> headlights is almost as bad, though. I get my revenge by adjusting
> my side mirrors to direct their own light back into their eyes.
> (It helps discourage tailgating, too.)

I meant the roof blue lights, as seen from behind, or from any other
direction. They are very intense here, probably from LEDs.

https://images.app.goo.gl/b7uF2fmaoBQ4aWiA8

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Joe Pfeiffer - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 16:45 UTC

Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>
> I've noticed that a lot of the brightest headlights over here have
> a very sharp cutoff at a given angle, at which the intensity of
> the so-called low beam goes from merely objectionable to downright
> hazardous. This angle is carefully set to be as high as possible
> while still being (presumably) legal. If you're driving a monster
> pickup truck (of the kind you thankfully have few of over there),
> you're high enough to be out of the most intense part of someone
> else's beam - while your own will hit everyone in smaller vehicles.
> If you're in something like my 2007 Honda Civic, you're out of luck.
> Mind you, if an oncoming vehicle is cresting a hill - or even hits
> a small bump - you're going to get a full-power flash no matter what.
>
> Automobile ads here really play up the bright headlights on the cars
> they're selling. I guess it's considered sexy to blind oncoming traffic.

My wife's 2015 Chrysler 200 has an extremely sharp cutoff. At night,
with low beams, it's very hard to read street signs.

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 by: Joe Pfeiffer - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 16:48 UTC

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:

> On 2023-02-11 19:07, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2023-02-11, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-02-11 07:44, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:54:52 -0700
>>>> Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bright damn blue LED. It's like having a nightlight.
>>>>
>>>> I have made extensive use of black insulating tape over such
>>>> pointless power lights - some of the worst offenders got copper tape.
>>>
>>> Imagine driving behind a police car (new) with their blue lights fully
>>> on. It hurts.
>> Driving in front of any car with the new crop of high-intensity
>> headlights is almost as bad, though. I get my revenge by adjusting
>> my side mirrors to direct their own light back into their eyes.
>> (It helps discourage tailgating, too.)
>
> I meant the roof blue lights, as seen from behind, or from any other
> direction. They are very intense here, probably from LEDs.
>
> https://images.app.goo.gl/b7uF2fmaoBQ4aWiA8

Worse than those are that they leave their spotlight on, illuminating
the vehicle they pulled over, when on the side of the road (in fairness,
this is for their own safety). When approaching from the other
direction it's worse than driving into somebody's high beams.

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 by: Kurt Weiske - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:56 UTC

To: Ahem A Rivet's Shot
-=> Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-

AAS> I have made extensive use of black insulating tape over such
AAS> pointless power lights - some of the worst offenders got copper tape.

I bought a role of gaffer tape years ago to block light leaks in cheap film
cameras. It does a good job of blocking LEDs on routers and access
points, and doesn't leave residue.

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 by: Kurt Weiske - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 18:31 UTC

To: Charlie Gibbs
-=> Charlie Gibbs wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-

CG> Driving in front of any car with the new crop of high-intensity
CG> headlights is almost as bad, though. I get my revenge by adjusting
CG> my side mirrors to direct their own light back into their eyes.
CG> (It helps discourage tailgating, too.)

Highway 17 (the highway connecting Santa Cruz and the central coast to
Silicon Valley is bad enough, being a 2-lane highway with a low divider.
At night, nowadays, with all of the oncoming HID and high-intensity
headlights, is very distracting.

And, what's the deal with trucks driving with high beams on, 24/7?
There's a big BLUE indicator light on the dash, so they must know
they're doing it.

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 19:35 UTC

On 2023-02-12 17:48, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2023-02-11 19:07, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2023-02-11, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2023-02-11 07:44, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:54:52 -0700
>>>>> Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bright damn blue LED. It's like having a nightlight.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made extensive use of black insulating tape over such
>>>>> pointless power lights - some of the worst offenders got copper tape.
>>>>
>>>> Imagine driving behind a police car (new) with their blue lights fully
>>>> on. It hurts.
>>> Driving in front of any car with the new crop of high-intensity
>>> headlights is almost as bad, though. I get my revenge by adjusting
>>> my side mirrors to direct their own light back into their eyes.
>>> (It helps discourage tailgating, too.)
>>
>> I meant the roof blue lights, as seen from behind, or from any other
>> direction. They are very intense here, probably from LEDs.
>>
>> https://images.app.goo.gl/b7uF2fmaoBQ4aWiA8
>
> Worse than those are that they leave their spotlight on, illuminating
> the vehicle they pulled over, when on the side of the road (in fairness,
> this is for their own safety). When approaching from the other
> direction it's worse than driving into somebody's high beams.

I don't chance on those normally, and that beam is understandably
strong. What I find often, though, is that they drive normally on the
roads and streets with those blue lights on. Not on a hurry, they just
drive all the time with them on.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Vir Campestris - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:51 UTC

On 08/02/2023 16:00, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> If you look a bit deeper into the fuel issue, you'll find that
> "run out in decades" applies to the current fleet of 439 reactors.

I actually meant the fossil fuel will run out in decades.

There's loads of U328 we can turn into Plutonium if we want. And loads
more Uranium in seawater. Getting it out might be hard and expensive,
but I'm not about to say impossible.

Andy

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 by: Vir Campestris - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:57 UTC

On 09/02/2023 15:20, Kurt Weiske wrote:
> Plug-in hybrids are nice. You don't get the simplicity of losing the
> internal combustion engine, but you can toodle around on your in-town
> errands only using EV and have the gas engine for longer trips.
>
> I have friends who take trips with EVs, and planning your trip around
> stopping to charge seems like a pain. It'll be the norm someday, I'm
> sure.

My son does a lot of business miles, and his comment is that most of
these plug-in hybrids have tiny fuel tanks and small batteries. Neither
range is good.

Andy

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 by: maus - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 22:50 UTC

On 2023-02-12, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 09/02/2023 15:20, Kurt Weiske wrote:
>> Plug-in hybrids are nice. You don't get the simplicity of losing the
>> internal combustion engine, but you can toodle around on your in-town
>> errands only using EV and have the gas engine for longer trips.
>>
>> I have friends who take trips with EVs, and planning your trip around
>> stopping to charge seems like a pain. It'll be the norm someday, I'm
>> sure.
>
> My son does a lot of business miles, and his comment is that most of
> these plug-in hybrids have tiny fuel tanks and small batteries. Neither
> range is good.
>
> Andy
>
Most hybrid's I have heard of have petrol, not deisel, engines. Utterley useless for
pulling a load.

--
greymausg@mail.com
where is our money gone, Dude?

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sun, 12 Feb 2023 23:12 UTC

On 2023-02-12 23:50, maus wrote:
> On 2023-02-12, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 09/02/2023 15:20, Kurt Weiske wrote:
>>> Plug-in hybrids are nice. You don't get the simplicity of losing the
>>> internal combustion engine, but you can toodle around on your in-town
>>> errands only using EV and have the gas engine for longer trips.
>>>
>>> I have friends who take trips with EVs, and planning your trip around
>>> stopping to charge seems like a pain. It'll be the norm someday, I'm
>>> sure.
>>
>> My son does a lot of business miles, and his comment is that most of
>> these plug-in hybrids have tiny fuel tanks and small batteries. Neither
>> range is good.
>>
>> Andy
>>
> Most hybrid's I have heard of have petrol, not deisel, engines. Utterley useless for
> pulling a load.
>
>

Here you have a bunch of diesel hybrids, ECO label 2022. Spanish.

<https://neomotor.epe.es/coches/todos-los-coches-diesel-hibridos-con-etiqueta-eco-en-2022-HJ865283>

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Scott Lurndal - Mon, 13 Feb 2023 00:02 UTC

Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> writes:
>On 08/02/2023 16:00, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> If you look a bit deeper into the fuel issue, you'll find that
>> "run out in decades" applies to the current fleet of 439 reactors.
>
>I actually meant the fossil fuel will run out in decades.
>
>There's loads of U328 we can turn into Plutonium if we want. And loads
>more Uranium in seawater. Getting it out might be hard and expensive,
>but I'm not about to say impossible.

Right now, the EROI for U from seawater is significantly less
than unity. Not a viable option.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-long-will-global-uranium-deposits-last/

That's 200 years worth for the existing fleet of 439 reactors.

Now multiply that by the tens of thousands of reactors that
need to be built to replace the fossil fuel based energy.

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 13 Feb 2023 11:44 UTC

Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Here you have a bunch of diesel hybrids, ECO label 2022. Spanish.
> <https://neomotor.epe.es/coches/todos-los-coches-diesel-hibridos-con-etiqueta-eco-en-2022-HJ865283>

I must admit, I didn't try to read far down that list, but the Audi
diesels are what the UK classes as "mild" hybrids, i.e. they have a
combined starter/alternator and a larger 12V (or for larger engines 48V)
battery ...

But they don't actully count as real hybrids as far as low emission
zones are concerned, they're mostly designed for lower taxation due to
them producing theoretically lower CO2 output.

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On 2023-02-13, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> Here you have a bunch of diesel hybrids, ECO label 2022. Spanish.
>> <https://neomotor.epe.es/coches/todos-los-coches-diesel-hibridos-con-etiqueta-eco-en-2022-HJ865283>
>
> I must admit, I didn't try to read far down that list, but the Audi
> diesels are what the UK classes as "mild" hybrids, i.e. they have a
> combined starter/alternator and a larger 12V (or for larger engines 48V)
> battery ...
>
> But they don't actully count as real hybrids as far as low emission
> zones are concerned, they're mostly designed for lower taxation due to
> them producing theoretically lower CO2 output.
>

Audi's are relatively dear cars, but are popular here. (I myself drive a Honda)
I started noting those Romanian cars when I was last doing a bit of driving,
about five years years ago, and when I am being driven now, they still are
around. Realy a peoples car, Isuppose.

--
greymausg@mail.com
where is our money gone, Dude?

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To: Vir Campestris
-=> Vir Campestris wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-

VC> My son does a lot of business miles, and his comment is that most of
VC> these plug-in hybrids have tiny fuel tanks and small batteries. Neither
VC> range is good.

I have a 2014 Plug-in Prius, it's got a small battery that's only good
for 10 mile on a plug-in session. The gas tank is 10 gallons.

That doesn't sound like a lot, but with regenerative braking, you can
get a couple of miles for "free" when driving up and down hills. That
drives the aggregate MPG up - my display usually indicates 54-56 mpg.
With a mixture of in-town and freeway driving and a charge or two a
week, that works out to around 480-500 miles range before the
conservative refuel indicator comes on.

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To: maus
-=> maus wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-

ma> Most hybrid's I have heard of have petrol, not deisel, engines.
ma> Utterley useless for pulling a load.

I'd always thought that VW should have made a diesel hybrid (before
their recent testing antics, that is). A hybrid diesel running on
biodiesel or waste vegetable oil would check all of the boxes for
self-righteous environmental types around here.

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On 2023-02-13, Kurt Weiske <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-5oi-this> wrote:
> To: maus
> -=> maus wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>
> ma> Most hybrid's I have heard of have petrol, not deisel, engines.
> ma> Utterley useless for pulling a load.
>
> I'd always thought that VW should have made a diesel hybrid (before
> their recent testing antics, that is). A hybrid diesel running on
> biodiesel or waste vegetable oil would check all of the boxes for
> self-righteous environmental types around here.
>
> kurt weiske | kweiske at realitycheckbbs dot org
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I had, among other autos, a Nissn Micra. I loved it dearly, and made provisions
for pushing back the drivers seat for room. One thing I discovered was not to try
to stop quickly from a high speed.

I used to farm. They used to estimate that you could grow enough fuel on 15% of
the area of a mixed use farm to keep the farm in power. That did not include the
power needed to build new tractors

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 by: Vir Campestris - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 17:26 UTC

On 12/02/2023 22:50, maus wrote:
> Most hybrid's I have heard of have petrol, not deisel, engines. Utterley useless for
> pulling a load.

So a Land-Rover V8 can't pull anything?

By the time it's been through a hybrid transmission the torque
characteristics of the engine don't matter a damn.

Come to that I've had petrol cars with towbars that would quite happily
spin their drive wheels...

The legend of torque and towing is just that. A legend. And like many
others it has no basis in fact.

Andy

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 by: Vir Campestris - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 17:29 UTC

On 13/02/2023 00:02, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Right now, the EROI for U from seawater is significantly less
> than unity. Not a viable option.
>
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-long-will-global-uranium-deposits-last/
>
> That's 200 years worth for the existing fleet of 439 reactors.
>
> Now multiply that by the tens of thousands of reactors that
> need to be built to replace the fossil fuel based energy.

Very interesting link, thank you. I especially like the last sentence:

"Breeder reactors could match today's nuclear output for 30,000 years
using only the NEA-estimated supplies."

Andy


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