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* [rslight] nocem scenario questionsSugarBug
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 by: SugarBug - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 11:39 UTC

Will someone walk me through a solution to this problem using nocem?

Consider a hypothetical spam flooder who has spammed 100 different
groups. Thousands of his messages are now on my local rslight server.

The spams have this header: From: Evil Spammer <evil@spam.bot>.

The spams also have this subject: Subject: Free Spam From Dr. Evil.

The spams have the path origin of: Path myserver!otherserver!spam.url.

1. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
from my server containing keyword 'Spammer' in the From: header?

2. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
from my server containing substring 'Free Spam' in the Subject: header?

3. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
from my server containing 'evil@spam.bot' in the From: header?

4. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
from my server containing 'spam.url' as origin in the Path: header?

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Re: [rslight] nocem scenario questions

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Subject: Re: [rslight] nocem scenario questions
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 by: Retro Guy - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 17:29 UTC

SugarBug wrote:

> Will someone walk me through a solution to this problem using nocem?

> Consider a hypothetical spam flooder who has spammed 100 different
> groups. Thousands of his messages are now on my local rslight server.

> The spams have this header: From: Evil Spammer <evil@spam.bot>.
> The spams also have this subject: Subject: Free Spam From Dr. Evil.
> The spams have the path origin of: Path myserver!otherserver!spam.url.

> 1. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
> from my server containing keyword 'Spammer' in the From: header?

> 2. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
> from my server containing substring 'Free Spam' in the Subject: header?

> 3. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
> from my server containing 'evil@spam.bot' in the From: header?

> 4. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
> from my server containing 'spam.url' as origin in the Path: header?

The problem is similar to doing the same for an inn server. You need to find the messages you wish to delete.

The way I do it is perform searching in a newsreader (I use Sylpheed). I open a folder window on my screen (I use Krusader, but any should work), then I highlight and drag all the articles I want to list in NoCeM from Sylpheed to the folder (Not all news readers make this easy, but Sylpheed seems to).

Now that I have a folder full of the articles I want to list, I run a custom script to roll through each article and create a NoCeM entry, building the NoCeM message. Then I post it.

That is how the NoCeMs you see in news.lists.filters from i2pn2 are built that contain the From: and Subject: lines, in addition to Message-Id:

The ones with just Message-Id are automated.

I can share the script I use, but I need to clean it up as it is hardcoded with ,my own info atm. It requires php.

--
Retro Guy

Re: [rslight] nocem scenario questions

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 by: Retro Guy - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 18:30 UTC

Retro Guy wrote:

> SugarBug wrote:

>> Will someone walk me through a solution to this problem using nocem?

>> Consider a hypothetical spam flooder who has spammed 100 different
>> groups. Thousands of his messages are now on my local rslight server.

>> The spams have this header: From: Evil Spammer <evil@spam.bot>.
>> The spams also have this subject: Subject: Free Spam From Dr. Evil.
>> The spams have the path origin of: Path myserver!otherserver!spam.url.

>> 1. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
>> from my server containing keyword 'Spammer' in the From: header?

>> 2. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
>> from my server containing substring 'Free Spam' in the Subject: header?

>> 3. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
>> from my server containing 'evil@spam.bot' in the From: header?

>> 4. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all messages
>> from my server containing 'spam.url' as origin in the Path: header?

> The problem is similar to doing the same for an inn server. You need to find the messages you wish to delete.

> The way I do it is perform searching in a newsreader (I use Sylpheed). I open a folder window on my screen (I use Krusader, but any should work), then I highlight and drag all the articles I want to list in NoCeM from Sylpheed to the folder (Not all news readers make this easy, but Sylpheed seems to).

> Now that I have a folder full of the articles I want to list, I run a custom script to roll through each article and create a NoCeM entry, building the NoCeM message. Then I post it.

> That is how the NoCeMs you see in news.lists.filters from i2pn2 are built that contain the From: and Subject: lines, in addition to Message-Id:

> The ones with just Message-Id are automated.

> I can share the script I use, but I need to clean it up as it is hardcoded with ,my own info atm. It requires php.

Oh yeah, I already did that (made the script available). It's in 'tools' in rslight git.

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Retro Guy

Re: [rslight] nocem scenario questions

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 by: SugarBug - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 23:36 UTC

On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 18:30:26 +0000
retro.guy@rocksolidbbs.com (Retro Guy) wrote:

> Retro Guy wrote:
>
> > SugarBug wrote:
>
> >> Will someone walk me through a solution to this problem using
> >> nocem?
>
> >> Consider a hypothetical spam flooder who has spammed 100 different
> >> groups. Thousands of his messages are now on my local rslight
> >> server.
>
> >> The spams have this header: From: Evil Spammer <evil@spam.bot>.
> >> The spams also have this subject: Subject: Free Spam From Dr. Evil.
> >> The spams have the path origin of: Path
> >> myserver!otherserver!spam.url.
>
> >> 1. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all
> >> messages from my server containing keyword 'Spammer' in the From:
> >> header?
>
> >> 2. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all
> >> messages from my server containing substring 'Free Spam' in the
> >> Subject: header?
>
> >> 3. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all
> >> messages from my server containing 'evil@spam.bot' in the From:
> >> header?
>
> >> 4. How do I issue a nocem that will delete and sanitize all
> >> messages from my server containing 'spam.url' as origin in the
> >> Path: header?
>
> > The problem is similar to doing the same for an inn server. You
> > need to find the messages you wish to delete.
>
> > The way I do it is perform searching in a newsreader (I use
> > Sylpheed). I open a folder window on my screen (I use Krusader, but
> > any should work), then I highlight and drag all the articles I want
> > to list in NoCeM from Sylpheed to the folder (Not all news readers
> > make this easy, but Sylpheed seems to).
>
> > Now that I have a folder full of the articles I want to list, I run
> > a custom script to roll through each article and create a NoCeM
> > entry, building the NoCeM message. Then I post it.
>
> > That is how the NoCeMs you see in news.lists.filters from i2pn2 are
> > built that contain the From: and Subject: lines, in addition to
> > Message-Id:
>
> > The ones with just Message-Id are automated.
>
> > I can share the script I use, but I need to clean it up as it is
> > hardcoded with ,my own info atm. It requires php.
>
> Oh yeah, I already did that (made the script available). It's in
> 'tools' in rslight git.

Ah, I think I get it now. I should collect the messages containing the
target data then run nocem generation on the collection of messages. The
simple solution evaded me.

Thank you, sir!

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Re: [rslight] nocem scenario questions

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 by: SugarBug - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 04:33 UTC

One more question:

If I want to apply the nocems to my server without propagating the nocem
to other servers that accept nocems from mine, what is the simplest way?

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Re: [rslight] nocem scenario questions

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 by: Retro Guy - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 07:00 UTC

SugarBug wrote:

> One more question:

> If I want to apply the nocems to my server without propagating the nocem
> to other servers that accept nocems from mine, what is the simplest way?

We should probably modify the script to handle that easily.

You should be able to simply add a nocem message to <spooldir>/nocem and wait for cron.php to run.

You can make a nocem message by modifying nocempost.php to NOT post (no rpost), but to cat the files:
header.out
<blank line>
nocem.out.asc

then save it.

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