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* UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023Blueshirt
`* UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023Ion Saliu
 `* UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023Blueshirt
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Re: UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023

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Subject: Re: UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023
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 by: Blueshirt - Thu, 11 May 2023 16:40 UTC

Ion Saliu wrote:

>
> Champions League Semifinals – 2nd Leg Schedule
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> May 16, 2023
> ---------------
> • Inter — Milan
>
> May 17, 2023
> ------------------------
> • Man City — Real Madrid
>
> The stubborn idiocy in scheduling… persists… of course. Inter and Milan
> play their second-leg match after 6 days. Real Mad’ and Man’ City play
> their rematch after 8 days. They benefit from 2 extra days of rest. That
> matters even at the beginning of the season, let alone the ending
> period. The Milan — Inter footballers looked exhausted toward the end of
> their match. It’ll be worse and… uglier in the second leg.

The six day/eight day break thing is a bit silly and probably unfair but
it's mainly to do with TV rights, as both match-days can be in different
'packages'. In some countries one TV channel has the rights to Tuesday
night Champions League games and another channel has the rights to
Wednesday night Champions League games. (In Ireland, for instance, RTE
gets the Tuesday matches, Virgin Media gets the games on Wednesday.)
Players being tired or not, is not a part of it!

Re: UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023

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Subject: Re: UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023
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 by: Ion Saliu - Fri, 12 May 2023 11:01 UTC

On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:40:19 PM UTC+3, Blueshirt wrote:
> Ion Saliu wrote:
>
> >
> > Champions League Semifinals – 2nd Leg Schedule
> > ----------------------------------------------
> >
> > May 16, 2023
> > ---------------
> > • Inter — Milan
> >
> > May 17, 2023
> > ------------------------
> > • Man City — Real Madrid
> >
> > The stubborn idiocy in scheduling… persists… of course. Inter and Milan
> > play their second-leg match after 6 days. Real Mad’ and Man’ City play
> > their rematch after 8 days. They benefit from 2 extra days of rest. That
> > matters even at the beginning of the season, let alone the ending
> > period. The Milan — Inter footballers looked exhausted toward the end of
> > their match. It’ll be worse and… uglier in the second leg.
> The six day/eight day break thing is a bit silly and probably unfair but
> it's mainly to do with TV rights, as both match-days can be in different
> 'packages'. In some countries one TV channel has the rights to Tuesday
> night Champions League games and another channel has the rights to
> Wednesday night Champions League games. (In Ireland, for instance, RTE
> gets the Tuesday matches, Virgin Media gets the games on Wednesday.)
> Players being tired or not, is not a part of it!

Axiomatic One:

Granted, TV is the lifeline of professional sports. There wouldn’t be professional sports without television. The per-day packaging of TV rights is weird and rather unusual. UEFA (and sport's governing bodies) should not — must not — schedule based on an insignificant factor. The players’ performance, and especially health, are far more important factors.

The final stages of competition always attract more attention. Alas! They are of lower quality and the clumsy excuse is: “The players are ever-so-tired this late in the season!”

Re: UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023

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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 12 May 2023 13:52 UTC

Ion Saliu wrote:

> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:40:19 PM UTC+3, Blueshirt wrote:
> > Ion Saliu wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Champions League Semifinals – 2nd Leg Schedule
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > May 16, 2023
> > > ---------------
> > > • Inter — Milan
> > >
> > > May 17, 2023
> > > ------------------------
> > > • Man City — Real Madrid
> > >
> > > The stubborn idiocy in scheduling… persists… of course. Inter and
> > > Milan play their second-leg match after 6 days. Real Mad’ and Man’
> > > City play their rematch after 8 days. They benefit from 2 extra days
> > > of rest. That matters even at the beginning of the season, let alone
> > > the ending period. The Milan — Inter footballers looked exhausted
> > > toward the end of their match. It’ll be worse and… uglier in the
> > > second leg.
> > The six day/eight day break thing is a bit silly and probably unfair
> > but it's mainly to do with TV rights, as both match-days can be in
> > different 'packages'. In some countries one TV channel has the rights
> > to Tuesday night Champions League games and another channel has the
> > rights to Wednesday night Champions League games. (In Ireland, for
> > instance, RTE gets the Tuesday matches, Virgin Media gets the games on
> > Wednesday.) Players being tired or not, is not a part of it!
>
> Axiomatic One:
>
> Granted, TV is the lifeline of professional sports. There wouldn’t be
> professional sports without television. The per-day packaging of TV
> rights is weird and rather unusual. UEFA (and sport's governing bodies)
> should not — must not — schedule based on an insignificant factor. The
> players’ performance, and especially health, are far more important
> factors.
>
> The final stages of competition always attract more attention. Alas!
> They are of lower quality and the clumsy excuse is: “The players are
> ever-so-tired this late in the season!”

Re: UEFA Champions League (UCL) Knockout Stage 2022-2023

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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 12 May 2023 16:30 UTC

Ion Saliu wrote:
> >
> > Granted, TV is the lifeline of professional sports. There wouldn’t be
> > professional sports without television. The per-day packaging of TV
> > rights is weird and rather unusual. UEFA (and sport's governing bodies)
> > should not — must not — schedule based on an insignificant factor. The
> > players’ performance, and especially health, are far more important
> > factors.

UEFA would say that their revenue from TV broadcasting rights is very
important and maybe point out that without that income we wouldn't have
the Champions League tournament that we have today...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/378203/rights-revenue-of-uefa/

[Outdated stats, but the income graph and revenue generated is telling]

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