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 by: Al Kamista - Sun, 4 Jun 2023 16:54 UTC

Just because.

Which club has the most World Cup winners on its roster as of today?

I counted 5 for Bayern (Neuer, Muller, Coman, Pavard, Hernandes). Who has more?

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 by: Werner Pichler - Sun, 4 Jun 2023 17:02 UTC

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 6:54:10 PM UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
> Just because.
>
> Which club has the most World Cup winners on its roster as of today?
>
> I counted 5 for Bayern (Neuer, Muller, Coman, Pavard, Hernandes). Who has more?

PSG would have six (Messi, Mbappé, Kimpembe, Ramos), if they hadn't loaned out two of them (Draxler and Paredes).

Ciao,
Werner

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Subject: Re: Random Trivia
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 by: Futbolmetrix - Sun, 4 Jun 2023 18:20 UTC

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:02:47 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 6:54:10 PM UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
> > Just because.
> >
> > Which club has the most World Cup winners on its roster as of today?
> >
> > I counted 5 for Bayern (Neuer, Muller, Coman, Pavard, Hernandes). Who has more?
> PSG would have six (Messi, Mbappé, Kimpembe, Ramos), if they hadn't loaned out two of them (Draxler and Paredes).
>

I was going to say that Juve has 4, but then realized that Rabiot was not part of the 2018 squad.

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Subject: Re: Random Trivia
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 by: Al Kamista - Sun, 4 Jun 2023 18:30 UTC

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, Al Kamista wrote:
> Just because.
>
> Which club has the most World Cup winners on its roster as of today?
>
> I counted 5 for Bayern (Neuer, Muller, Coman, Pavard, Hernandes). Who has more?

Just noticed that Coman wasn't part of the 2018 squad.

So Bayern down to 4, tied with PSG.

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 by: Werner Pichler - Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:22 UTC

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 6:54:10 PM UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
> Just because.
>
> Which club has the most World Cup winners on its roster as of today?
>
> I counted 5 for Bayern (Neuer, Muller, Coman, Pavard, Hernandes). Who has more?

It's been all over the news these days, since after signing with Bournemouth Justin Kluivert
is on track to become only the fourth player ever to take the field in all five of Premier League,
La Liga, Serie A, Deutsche Bundesliga, and Ligue 1, but in case you want to guess instead of
google, who are the other three?

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: Binder Dundat - Sat, 24 Jun 2023 15:49 UTC

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:22:50 a.m. UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 6:54:10 PM UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
> > Just because.
> >
> > Which club has the most World Cup winners on its roster as of today?
> >
> > I counted 5 for Bayern (Neuer, Muller, Coman, Pavard, Hernandes). Who has more?
> It's been all over the news these days, since after signing with Bournemouth Justin Kluivert
> is on track to become only the fourth player ever to take the field in all five of Premier League,
> La Liga, Serie A, Deutsche Bundesliga, and Ligue 1, but in case you want to guess instead of
> google, who are the other three?
>
> Ciao,
> Werner

One of them has to be Marko Marin. I cant recall if Klinsmann played in Spain, but if he did he would be another.

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 by: Werner Pichler - Sat, 24 Jun 2023 17:32 UTC

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 5:49:55 PM UTC+2, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:22:50 a.m. UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 6:54:10 PM UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
> > > Just because.
> > >
> > > Which club has the most World Cup winners on its roster as of today?
> > >
> > > I counted 5 for Bayern (Neuer, Muller, Coman, Pavard, Hernandes). Who has more?
> > It's been all over the news these days, since after signing with Bournemouth Justin Kluivert
> > is on track to become only the fourth player ever to take the field in all five of Premier League,
> > La Liga, Serie A, Deutsche Bundesliga, and Ligue 1, but in case you want to guess instead of
> > google, who are the other three?
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Werner
>
> One of them has to be Marko Marin. I cant recall if Klinsmann played in Spain, but if he did he would be another.

Marko never played for a French team, and strictly speaking he also never played in Serie A (all of his four
matches for Fiorentina came in the Europa League).
Klinsmann never played for a Spanish team.

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: FF - Sat, 24 Jun 2023 21:37 UTC

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 5:22:50 PM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 6:54:10 PM UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
> > Just because.
> >
> > Which club has the most World Cup winners on its roster as of today?
> >
> > I counted 5 for Bayern (Neuer, Muller, Coman, Pavard, Hernandes). Who has more?
> It's been all over the news these days, since after signing with Bournemouth Justin Kluivert
> is on track to become only the fourth player ever to take the field in all five of Premier League,
> La Liga, Serie A, Deutsche Bundesliga, and Ligue 1, but in case you want to guess instead of
> google, who are the other three?
>
> Ciao,
> Werner

One of them is Raducioiu. I remembered it and I checked to be sure.

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 by: Werner Pichler - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:10 UTC

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:37:50 PM UTC+2, FF wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 5:22:50 PM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:
> >
> > It's been all over the news these days, since after signing with Bournemouth Justin Kluivert
> > is on track to become only the fourth player ever to take the field in all five of Premier League,
> > La Liga, Serie A, Deutsche Bundesliga, and Ligue 1, but in case you want to guess instead of
> > google, who are the other three?
>
> One of them is Raducioiu. I remembered it and I checked to be sure.

This is correct. The other two can also be found in Răducioiu's Wikipedia article.

Incidentally, this is not a record that's particularly enviable, and rather more like
a journeyman badge. Like Mateja Kežman's championship titles in five different
countries (which was the record we came up with when we last discussed this
in rss back in 2013, and which might well still be unsurpassed).

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:17 UTC

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> Incidentally, this is not a record that's particularly enviable, and rather more like
> a journeyman badge. Like Mateja Kežman's championship titles in five different
> countries (which was the record we came up with when we last discussed this
> in rss back in 2013, and which might well still be unsurpassed).
>

I could come up with several with four: Di Maria, Zlatan (no Germany), Cancelo and Rüdiger (no France), surely many more. Interestingly, three of the above four have also plied their trade in a 5th European League, just below the top 5 (Cancelo and Di Maria in Portugal, Zlatan in the Netherlands).

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 by: Werner Pichler - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:21 UTC

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 4:17:07 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > Incidentally, this is not a record that's particularly enviable, and rather more like
> > a journeyman badge. Like Mateja Kežman's championship titles in five different
> > countries (which was the record we came up with when we last discussed this
> > in rss back in 2013, and which might well still be unsurpassed).
> >
> I could come up with several with four: Di Maria, Zlatan (no Germany)

+Maxwell, who's won everything his buddy has won

> Cancelo and Rüdiger (no France), surely many more. Interestingly, three of the above four have also plied their trade in a 5th
> European League, just below the top 5 (Cancelo and Di Maria in Portugal, Zlatan in the Netherlands).

Also, one of your guys - Danilo (Porto, Real, Man City, Juve)

So four is easy, but five is really difficult?

Ciao,
Werner

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 by: Al Kamista - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:55 UTC

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 10:22:50 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 6:54:10 PM UTC+2, Al Kamista wrote:
> > Just because.
> >
> > Which club has the most World Cup winners on its roster as of today?
> >
> > I counted 5 for Bayern (Neuer, Muller, Coman, Pavard, Hernandes). Who has more?
> It's been all over the news these days, since after signing with Bournemouth Justin Kluivert
> is on track to become only the fourth player ever to take the field in all five of Premier League,
> La Liga, Serie A, Deutsche Bundesliga, and Ligue 1, but in case you want to guess instead of
> google, who are the other three?

Wondering if being a prominent player's son doesn't sub-consciously overrate a young player for many. Justin Kluivert, Jordi Cruyff, Gio Reyna, Tom Ince. All 4 were highly rated as teenagers, only for them to be underwhelming at best, and major disappointments at worst. (Chiesa and Haaland being notable exceptions).

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:18 UTC

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 4:21:18 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 4:17:07 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:10:46 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > Incidentally, this is not a record that's particularly enviable, and rather more like
> > > a journeyman badge. Like Mateja Kežman's championship titles in five different
> > > countries (which was the record we came up with when we last discussed this
> > > in rss back in 2013, and which might well still be unsurpassed).
> > >
> > I could come up with several with four: Di Maria, Zlatan (no Germany)
> +Maxwell, who's won everything his buddy has won
> > Cancelo and Rüdiger (no France), surely many more. Interestingly, three of the above four have also plied their trade in a 5th
> > European League, just below the top 5 (Cancelo and Di Maria in Portugal, Zlatan in the Netherlands).
> Also, one of your guys - Danilo (Porto, Real, Man City, Juve)

If we are doing 3+1, then Cristiano Ronaldo.
> So four is easy, but five is really difficult?

Another 4+1: Thiago Mendes

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 by: FF - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 21:37 UTC

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:10:46 PM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 11:37:50 PM UTC+2, FF wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 5:22:50 PM UTC+3, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > >
> > > It's been all over the news these days, since after signing with Bournemouth Justin Kluivert
> > > is on track to become only the fourth player ever to take the field in all five of Premier League,
> > > La Liga, Serie A, Deutsche Bundesliga, and Ligue 1, but in case you want to guess instead of
> > > google, who are the other three?
> >
> > One of them is Raducioiu. I remembered it and I checked to be sure.
> This is correct. The other two can also be found in Răducioiu's Wikipedia article.
>
> Incidentally, this is not a record that's particularly enviable, and rather more like
> a journeyman badge. Like Mateja Kežman's championship titles in five different
> countries (which was the record we came up with when we last discussed this
> in rss back in 2013, and which might well still be unsurpassed).
>
>
> Ciao,
> Werner

Well, for a romanian player it's a badge of honor. Not to mention that while at Milan he was lucky enough to win the UCL, I think without playing any minute in it.

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On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:18:28 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Another 4+1: Thiago Mendes

Fabregas is another one with 4 (if we count Serie B)

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Subject: Re: Random Trivia
From: wpichler@gmail.com (Werner Pichler)
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 by: Werner Pichler - Tue, 27 Jun 2023 08:34 UTC

On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:45:59 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:18:28 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
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> > Another 4+1: Thiago Mendes
>
> Fabregas is another one with 4 (if we count Serie B)

Wait, are we talking titles, or just having played in different leagues?

I think we've been mixing this up - Danilo, Ibra, Maxwell, Cancelo not only played in these
different leagues but also won the title there.

Ciao,
Werner

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Subject: Re: Random Trivia
From: daniele.paserman@gmail.com (Futbolmetrix)
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 by: Futbolmetrix - Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:26 UTC

On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 10:34:47 AM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 9:45:59 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:18:28 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > > Another 4+1: Thiago Mendes
> >
> > Fabregas is another one with 4 (if we count Serie B)
> Wait, are we talking titles, or just having played in different leagues?

Yes, I was still on the "playing in all the top-5 leagues"

> I think we've been mixing this up - Danilo, Ibra, Maxwell, Cancelo not only played in these
> different leagues but also won the title there.

Impressive. I'll see if I can think of more.

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