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Fantasy Scout - Chat thread, September 2023

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From: milivella@gmail.com (milivella)
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Subject: Fantasy Scout - Chat thread, September 2023
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2023 04:11:47 +0200
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 by: milivella - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 02:11 UTC

[The rules of this thread are simple: write what you want, reply if you
want, ignore if you have to.]

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I've updated the clubs the players play for.

Quick stats (append prefix "According to Wikipedia..." to each of them):

263 of 1,437 players do not play for a club (= are retired?)

Top 10 clubs with most FS players:
22 Manchester United
20 Paris Saint-Germain
19 Chelsea
17 Arsenal
16 AC Milan
16 Barcelona
15 Aston Villa
15 Borussia Dortmund
15 Juventus
15 Liverpool
15 Real Madrid
15 Roma
15 Tottenham Hotspur

Top 10 leagues with most FS players:
218 Premier League
158 Serie A
132 La Liga
98 Bundesliga
76 Ligue 1
54 Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A
47 Eredivisie
38 Primera Division
30 EFL Championship
28 Primeira Liga
28 Serie B
(the Saudi Pro League is at 19)

Top scout-club pairs:
Andrea V. Barcelona 5
Daniele Paris Saint-Germain 5
Jackson Manchester City 5
Jackson Real Madrid 5
Alberto Napoli 4
Andrea V. Flamengo 4
Andrea V. Leeds United 4
Andrea V. Tottenham Hotspur 4
Daniele Juventus 4
Daniele Roma 4
Leon Real Madrid 4
Michael H. Aston Villa 4
Rico Liverpool 4
Saintjust River Plate 4
Ville Chelsea 4

Previous updates:
https://fantasyscoutblog.wordpress.com/tag/clubs/
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.sport.soccer/fs-clubs%7Csort:date

Tag: fs-clubs

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Cheers
milivella

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 by: milivella - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 18:26 UTC

This is just a comment from a random person on Reddit
(Existing_Mess1841) about what one can expect from Neymar's NT career:

"2026 WC will be final for Neymar. He at most has probably 17 WC
qualifiers, 6-7 Copa America, 8 in WC if they reach final and couple of
friendlies. That is around 35 or lets say 40 max games if he is fully
fit. Also he has average of 13 games per year for brazil and he played
(13, 5,2,13,8) in last 5 years.

Meanwhile Messi will continue till Copa america. Messi probably has 10
goals in his pocket. When Messi retires, Neymar will be still around
20-25 goals less than Messi after copa. Will he surpass that ?"

https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/16dtgms/official_neymar_surpasses_pel%C3%A9_and_becomes_the/jzrwxqf/

However, I rarely find such predictions about expected caps+goals in the
wild, and it may be interesting to compare it with the prediction made
by the algorithm. More precisely, by my attempt to approximate the
result of Futbolmetrix' algorithm. ...Anyway, it is the prediction you
find on the FS right now (made before the current round of international
matches):
http://fantasyscout.altervista.org/playersprediction.htm?0_=Neymar

The algo expects 31 caps+goals in average from Neymar, and in any case
no more than 83.

Existing_Mess1841 expects no more than
35 caps
+ less than 20 goals starting from September 2024
+ some goals in the next 12 months, let's say 10
(+ 3 points Neymar scored yesterday the algo does not yet know about)
= less than 78 FS points

They may be both wrong, but they more or less agree.

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milivella

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 by: milivella - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 01:51 UTC

I have updated the (preliminary) predictions:
http://fantasyscout.altervista.org/predictedrankings.htm

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 by: milivella - Sun, 1 Oct 2023 01:44 UTC

Neymar is the first player to reach 200 FS points.

For comparison, no player from the core FS nations who retired before
2007 would have scored more than 173 points:
http://fantasyscout.altervista.org/history.htm

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Cheers
milivella

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