On 2023-09-20 12:58, MH wrote:
> On 2023-09-18 13:35, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>> Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks
>>> like we will have the following lineups
>>>
>>> Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
>>> Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
>>> Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
>>> Bungs (England - Werner)
>>> Waffles (Benelux - MH)
>>> Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
>>> Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
>>> Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
>>> Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
>>> Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire  (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire
>>> without Austria - Binder)?
>>> Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?
>>>
>>
>> here are my preliminary entries - will double check postions tomorrow
>> AM with UEFA sites, and will almost certainly fiddle once lineups come
>> out:
>>
>> Siglo de Oro (Spain)
>>
>> DF: Sergio Ramos (Sevilla), Alex Balde (Barca), Carvajal (Real Madrid)
>> MF: Rodri (Man City), Gavi (Barcelona) Merino (Real Sociedad), Isco
>> (Real Betis)
>> FW: Morata (Atletico, Captain), Dani Olmo (RBL), Ansu Fati (Brighton),
>> Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad), Moreno (Villareal)
>
> Current Lineup:
>
> Ramos, BAlde, Carvajal

All have played
> Rodri. Gavi, Merino, Isco

All played except Isco.

> Morata, Yamal, Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno

All played except Fati.
Not a lot of room for tinkering.

>
>
>>
>> (subs, reminder to myself DF: Azpilicueta, Nacho, MIranda, Le Normand
>> MF: Fabian Ruiz, Thiago, Oliver Torres, Pedri (injured ?)       FW:
>> Asensio, Borja Iglesias,
>>
>
>>
>> Waffles and Windmills (Benelux)Ram
>>
>> DF.  Van Dijk (Liverpool), Alderweireld (Antwerp), Dumfries (Inter)
>> MF:  Tielemans (Aston Villa), De Ketelaere (Atalanta), F. De Jong
>> (Barcelona), De Roon (Atalanta)
>> FW: Lukaku (ROma, captain) Gakpo (Liverpool), Luuk De Jong (PSV),
>> Bakayoko (PSV), Doku (Man City)
>>
>> (On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer  MF: Vanaken,
>> Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners,  FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
>> Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal) Lamine Yamal
>>
> Putting in trossard for De Jong (will probably regret
>
> New Lineup
>
> DF Van Dijk, alderweireld (played), Dumfries

All played.
> MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong (played), De Roon,  ADD de Ketelaere

De Roon is starting, de Ketelaere not. Rest have played.

> FW.  Simons (played), Lukaku (C), Openda (played), TROSSARD Arsenal,
> Bakayoko
>

All have played. Trossard and Lukaku scored.

>
>>
>

On 2023-09-21 12:42, MH wrote:
> On 2023-09-20 12:58, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-09-18 13:35, MH wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-17 14:29, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>> Let's put lineups, tinkering and comments in this thread. It looks
>>>> like we will have the following lineups
>>>>
>>>> Armata (Italy-Futbolmetrix)
>>>> Wakas (Sub-Saharan Africa- Futbolmetrix)
>>>> Wonderland (Austria+Swi+Lie - Werner)
>>>> Bungs (England - Werner)
>>>> Waffles (Benelux - MH)
>>>> Yet To be Named Spaniards (Spain - MH)
>>>> Vikings (Scandinavia (+Iceland and Faroe?) - Jesper)
>>>> Jogo (Brazil - Jesus)
>>>> Soldner/Flickers (Germany - Jesper)?
>>>> Sorta Austro-Hungarian Empire  (Lands of the Austro-Hungarian empire
>>>> without Austria - Binder)?
>>>> Tugas (Portugal - HASM) ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> here are my preliminary entries - will double check postions tomorrow
>>> AM with UEFA sites, and will almost certainly fiddle once lineups
>>> come out:
>>>
>>> Siglo de Oro (Spain)
>>>
>>> DF: Sergio Ramos (Sevilla), Alex Balde (Barca), Carvajal (Real Madrid)
>>> MF: Rodri (Man City), Gavi (Barcelona) Merino (Real Sociedad), Isco
>>> (Real Betis)
>>> FW: Morata (Atletico, Captain), Dani Olmo (RBL), Ansu Fati
>>> (Brighton), Oyarzabal (Real Sociedad), Moreno (Villareal)
>>
>> Current Lineup:
>>
>> Ramos, BAlde, Carvajal
>
> All have played
>> Rodri. Gavi, Merino, Isco
>
> All played except Isco.
>
>> Morata, Yamal, Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno
>
> All played except Fati.
> Not a lot of room for tinkering.
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> (subs, reminder to myself DF: Azpilicueta, Nacho, MIranda, Le Normand
>>> MF: Fabian Ruiz, Thiago, Oliver Torres, Pedri (injured ?)       FW:
>>> Asensio, Borja Iglesias,
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Waffles and Windmills (Benelux)Ram
>>>
>>> DF.  Van Dijk (Liverpool), Alderweireld (Antwerp), Dumfries (Inter)
>>> MF:  Tielemans (Aston Villa), De Ketelaere (Atalanta), F. De Jong
>>> (Barcelona), De Roon (Atalanta)
>>> FW: Lukaku (ROma, captain) Gakpo (Liverpool), Luuk De Jong (PSV),
>>> Bakayoko (PSV), Doku (Man City)
>>>
>>> (On deck (reminder to myself) DF Aké, Theate, Hateboer  MF: Vanaken,
>>> Xavi Simons(RBL) Koopmeiners,  FW: Lukebakio (Sevilla) Openda (RBL)
>>> Malen (BvB) Trossard (Arsenal) Lamine Yamal
>>>
>> Putting in trossard for De Jong (will probably regret
>>
>> New Lineup
>>
>> DF Van Dijk, alderweireld (played), Dumfries
>
> All played.
>> MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong (played), De Roon,  ADD de Ketelaere
>
> De Roon is starting, de Ketelaere not.  Rest have played.
>
>
>
>> FW.  Simons (played), Lukaku (C), Openda (played), TROSSARD Arsenal,
>> Bakayoko
>>
>
> All have played.  Trossard and Lukaku scored.

Sorry De Ketelaere and De Roon both starting,
also both Isco and Fati, so I will stand pat, to the presumed delight of
the esteemed gamesmaster.

>
>>
>>>
>>
>

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:

Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:

Orphans, Flickers 4
Waffles, Micronos 3
Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
Armata 1
Vikings 0

On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 18:00:06 UTC+2, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On Wednesday, 20 September 2023 at 23:22:39 UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > Vikings and Wakas, the top two teams from last year, still at 0.
> Ice float ready.
>
> Vikings:
> FW Haaland (C, done), Solbakken (Olympiacos), Sørloth (Villarreal), Isak (done), Poulsen (done)
> MF Frederiksberg (Klaksvík), Grønbæk (Bodø/Glimt), Pellegrino (Bodø/Glimt), Breivik (Molde)
> DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Christensen (done), Bah (done)

Solbakken on the bench.

FW Haaland (C, done), Sørloth (done), Isak (done), Poulsen (done), Skov Olsen (Brugge)
MF Frederiksberg (Klaksvík), Grønbæk (Bodø/Glimt), Pellegrino (Bodø/Glimt), Breivik (done)
DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Christensen (done), Bah (done)

> Flickers:
> FW Werner (done) (RB), Gnabry (done), Höler (Freiburg)
> MF Sané (C/done), Musiala (done), Götze (Frankfurt), Gross (Brighton), Wirtz (Lev), Dahoud (Brighton)
> DF Can (done), Rüdiger (RM), Tah (Lev)
> Hopefully something will show up later.

Not really. All in on Freiburg.

FW Werner (done) (RB), Gnabry (done), Höler (Freiburg)
MF Sané (C/done), Musiala (done), Götze (done), Gross (Brighton), Wirtz (done), Hofler (Freiburg)
DF Can (done), Rüdiger (done), Tah (done)

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
>
> Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:
>
> Orphans, Flickers 4
> Waffles, Micronos 3
> Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
> Armata 1
> Vikings 0

Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> >
> > Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:
> >
> > Orphans, Flickers 4
> > Waffles, Micronos 3
> > Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
> > Armata 1
> > Vikings 0
> Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.

De Ketelaere on the board for the Waffles. Do I have the courage to tell MH that UEFA lists him as a forward?

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:09:26 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > >
> > > Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:
> > >
> > > Orphans, Flickers 4
> > > Waffles, Micronos 3
> > > Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
> > > Armata 1
> > > Vikings 0
> > Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.
> De Ketelaere on the board for the Waffles. Do I have the courage to tell MH that UEFA lists him as a forward?

A late Kudus goal puts the Wakas on 3 points. I'll double check things later, but the final standings should be:

Orphans, Flickers, Waffles (pending decision on De Ketelaere case) 4
Micronos, Wakas 3
Armata, Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wonderland 2
Armata 1
Vikings 0

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Match Day 1 results and standings

Flickers 4
DF Can, Bisseck, Tah
MF Sané © 1(x2), Gross, Wirtz 1, Musiala, Gotze, Hofler
FW Werner, Gnabry 1, Höler

Orphans 4
DF: Otamendi, Molina, Li. Martinez
MF: Mac Allister, Palacios, De Paul, Paredes
FW: La. Martinez © 1(x2), Dybala, Icardi, J. Alvarez 2, Di Maria

Waffles/Windmills 4
DF. Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Dumfries
MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong, De Roon, de Ketelaere 1
FW: Lukaku© 1(x2), Xavi Simons, Openda, Trossard 1, Bakayoko

Micronos 3
DF: Upamecano, L. Hernandez, Digne 1
MF: Camavinga, Ndombele, Tchouameni, Dina Ebimbe
FW: Mbappe© 1 (x2), Giroud, Benrahma, Griezmann, Cimignani

Waka-Waka 3
DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Mbemba
MF: Kudus 1, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson
FW: Osimhen, Boniface © 1(x2), Haller, Orban, Lookman

Armata 2
DF: Biraghi, Di Lorenzo 1, Zappacosta
MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo 1, Cristante
FW: Immobile©, Belotti, Politano, El Shaarawy

Bungs 2
DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Gomez
MF: Barnes, Loftus-Cheek, Foden, March
FW: Wilson, Kane© 1(x2), Nketiah, Rashford, Welbeck

Jogo 2
DF: Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
MF: Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro 2, Taison;
FW: Vinícius Júnior (C), Rodrygo, Raphinha, Caio Vidal, Martinelli

Siglo 2
DF: Sergio Ramos, A. Balde, Carvajal
MF: Rodri 1, Gavi 1, Merino, Isco
FW: Morata©, Lamine Yamal, Ansu Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno

Tugas 2
DF: Raphaël Guerreiro, Gonçalo Inácio, Alexandre Penetra
MF: Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Ivan Cavaleiro, Vitinha
FW: Rafa Silva, João Félix 2, Ricardo Leão, Diogo Jota, Gonçalo Ramos©

Wonderland 1
DF: Schär, Alaba, Wüthrich
MF: Sabitzer , Schlager 1 , Xhaka, Zuber, Schwab
FW: Okafor, Arnautović ©, Zeqiri 1, Gregoritsch

Vikings 0
DF Gunnlaugsson, Christensen, Bah
MF Frederiksberg, Grønbæk, Pellegrino, Breivik
FW Haaland (C), Sørloth, Isak, Poulsen, Skov Olsen

MatchDay 1 Points:
Flickers 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
Orphans 4 + 6 .67 = 10.67
Waffles/Windmills 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
Micronos 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
Wakas 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
Armata 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Bungs 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Jogo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Siglo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Tugas 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Wonderland 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
Vikings 0 = 0

Best lineups
Armata 7
DF: Provedel, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri 2(x2)
MF: Grifo
FW:

Bungs 4
DF:
MF: Bellingham, Saka
FW: Kane (x2)

Flickers 7
DF: Koch
MF: Sané, Wirtz, Hoffmann
FW: Gnabry (x2), Philipp

Jogo 12
DF:
MF: Casemiro 2, Ederson
FW: Galeno 2 (x2), Tetê, Gabriel Jesus, Rwan, Joao Pedro 2

Micronos 11
DF: Simakan, Boey, Digne, Truffert, Macon, Sidibe
MF: Blas
FW: Mbappe (x2), Fulgini, Tel

Orphans 7
DF:
MF: Alvarez 2 (x2), Ocampos
FW: La. Martinez, Ponce

Siglo 6
DF:
MF: Barrios, Gavi, Rodri, Mendez
FW: Brandon (x2)

Tugas 8
DF:
MF: Miguel Crespo
FW: João Félix 2 (x2), Diogo Goncalves, Bruma, Borges

Vikings 10
DF:
MF: Elyounoussi, Ødegaard, Bøving
FW: Højlund, Villadsen, K. Olsen 2 (x2), Gyökeres

Waffles/Windmills 10
DF:
MF: Stengs, Mijnans, De Wit, De Ketelaere, [Taylor, Vanaken]
FW: Trossard (x2), Batshuayi, van Brederode, Dallinga, Lukaku, [Berghuis, Cuypers]

Waka-Waka 14
DF: Ogbu, Diomande
MF: Bukari, Leandro Andrade, Kudus
FW: Elia, Hassane Bande, Owusu, Boniface, Aubameyang 2 (x2), [Sima, Babicka]

Wonderland 4
DF:
MF: Schlager, Flecker
FW: Zeqiri (x2)

Actual goals scored: 30
Best goals: 100

Nice round numbers....

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 10:09:26 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > >
> > > Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:
> > >
> > > Orphans, Flickers 4
> > > Waffles, Micronos 3
> > > Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
> > > Armata 1
> > > Vikings 0
> > Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone
> > quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.
>
> De Ketelaere on the board for the Waffles. Do I have the courage to tell MH that UEFA lists him as a forward?

You can swap him with Trossard who UEFA lists as a midfielder?

Ciao,
Werner

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 12:12:23 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 10:09:26 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:57:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:49:31 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Goals by captains Lukaku and Boniface, also one by Digne. Standings before the final batch of matches:
> > > >
> > > > Orphans, Flickers 4
> > > > Waffles, Micronos 3
> > > > Bungs, Jogo, Siglo, Tugas, Wakas, Wonderland 2
> > > > Armata 1
> > > > Vikings 0
> > > Grifo and the Armata catches up with the 2-point peloton. After some crazy high scoring results in the first batch of matches, the Conference League has gone
> > > quiet. Still 45 minutes to go.
> >
> > De Ketelaere on the board for the Waffles. Do I have the courage to tell MH that UEFA lists him as a forward?
> You can swap him with Trossard who UEFA lists as a midfielder?

Ah, good old UEFA coming to the rescue!

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 12:17:21 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Ah, good old UEFA coming to the rescue!

It also has no impact on efficiency scores, as the Waffles had goals to spare in both midfield and attack.

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 6:05:48 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> Match Day 1 results and standings
>
> Flickers 4
> DF Can, Bisseck, Tah
> MF Sané © 1(x2), Gross, Wirtz 1, Musiala, Gotze, Hofler
> FW Werner, Gnabry 1, Höler
>
> Orphans 4
> DF: Otamendi, Molina, Li. Martinez
> MF: Mac Allister, Palacios, De Paul, Paredes
> FW: La. Martinez © 1(x2), Dybala, Icardi, J. Alvarez 2, Di Maria
>
> Waffles/Windmills 4
> DF. Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Dumfries
> MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong, De Roon, de Ketelaere 1
> FW: Lukaku© 1(x2), Xavi Simons, Openda, Trossard 1, Bakayoko
>
> Micronos 3
> DF: Upamecano, L. Hernandez, Digne 1
> MF: Camavinga, Ndombele, Tchouameni, Dina Ebimbe
> FW: Mbappe© 1 (x2), Giroud, Benrahma, Griezmann, Cimignani
>
> Waka-Waka 3
> DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Mbemba
> MF: Kudus 1, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson
> FW: Osimhen, Boniface © 1(x2), Haller, Orban, Lookman

Kudus scored twice...

> Armata 2
> DF: Biraghi, Di Lorenzo 1, Zappacosta
> MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo 1, Cristante
> FW: Immobile©, Belotti, Politano, El Shaarawy
>
> Bungs 2
> DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Gomez
> MF: Barnes, Loftus-Cheek, Foden, March
> FW: Wilson, Kane© 1(x2), Nketiah, Rashford, Welbeck
>
> Jogo 2
> DF: Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
> MF: Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro 2, Taison;
> FW: Vinícius Júnior (C), Rodrygo, Raphinha, Caio Vidal, Martinelli
>
> Siglo 2
> DF: Sergio Ramos, A. Balde, Carvajal
> MF: Rodri 1, Gavi 1, Merino, Isco
> FW: Morata©, Lamine Yamal, Ansu Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno
>
> Tugas 2
> DF: Raphaël Guerreiro, Gonçalo Inácio, Alexandre Penetra
> MF: Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Ivan Cavaleiro, Vitinha
> FW: Rafa Silva, João Félix 2, Ricardo Leão, Diogo Jota, Gonçalo Ramos©
>
> Wonderland 1
> DF: Schär, Alaba, Wüthrich
> MF: Sabitzer , Schlager 1 , Xhaka, Zuber, Schwab
> FW: Okafor, Arnautović ©, Zeqiri 1, Gregoritsch
>
> Vikings 0
> DF Gunnlaugsson, Christensen, Bah
> MF Frederiksberg, Grønbæk, Pellegrino, Breivik
> FW Haaland (C), Sørloth, Isak, Poulsen, Skov Olsen
>
>
>
> MatchDay 1 Points:
> Flickers 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
> Orphans 4 + 6 .67 = 10.67
> Waffles/Windmills 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
> Micronos 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
> Wakas 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
> Armata 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> Bungs 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> Jogo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> Siglo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> Tugas 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> Wonderland 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> Vikings 0 = 0

....so more shared points.

>
> Best lineups
> Armata 7
> DF: Provedel, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri 2(x2)
> MF: Grifo
> FW:
>
> Bungs 4
> DF:
> MF: Bellingham, Saka
> FW: Kane (x2)

There have been better matchdays for the Bungs. No Thursday goal is rare.

> Flickers 7
> DF: Koch
> MF: Sané, Wirtz, Hoffmann
> FW: Gnabry (x2), Philipp
>
> Jogo 12
> DF:
> MF: Casemiro 2, Ederson
> FW: Galeno 2 (x2), Tetê, Gabriel Jesus, Rwan, Joao Pedro 2

Scored the most braces.

> Micronos 11
> DF: Simakan, Boey, Digne, Truffert, Macon, Sidibe
> MF: Blas
> FW: Mbappe (x2), Fulgini, Tel

Missing Jonathan Clauss (DF) for Marseille.
A good thing for the Micronos efficiency that Adli changed NT allegiance just this month.

I think it's new that UEFA, forever complicating things, on their site now differentiate between 'Club Position' and 'National Team Position'.
For some reason they have Fulgini as Club Forward and National Team Defender, when he last featured in any NT (French Under-21s) in June 2017.
In fact he plays for Lens in midfield. Go figure.

> Orphans 7
> DF:
> MF: Alvarez 2 (x2), Ocampos
> FW: La. Martinez, Ponce

Álvarez and Ocampos are both 'Club Position' forwards.

> Siglo 6
> DF:
> MF: Barrios, Gavi, Rodri, Mendez
> FW: Brandon (x2)
>
> Tugas 8
> DF:
> MF: Miguel Crespo
> FW: João Félix 2 (x2), Diogo Goncalves, Bruma, Borges
>
> Vikings 10
> DF:
> MF: Elyounoussi, Ødegaard, Bøving
> FW: Højlund, Villadsen, K. Olsen 2 (x2), Gyökeres

Should have gone with the Faroe guy playing in Iceland! Doesn't get any more Viking than that.

> Waffles/Windmills 10
> DF:
> MF: Stengs, Mijnans, De Wit, De Ketelaere, [Taylor, Vanaken]
> FW: Trossard (x2), Batshuayi, van Brederode, Dallinga, Lukaku, [Berghuis, Cuypers]
>
> Waka-Waka 14
> DF: Ogbu, Diomande
> MF: Bukari, Leandro Andrade, Kudus
> FW: Elia, Hassane Bande, Owusu, Boniface, Aubameyang 2 (x2), [Sima, Babicka]

So Cabo Verde is part of Waka-Waka? I think we pondered that question before but I can't be bothered to look it up.

> Wonderland 4
> DF:
> MF: Schlager, Flecker
> FW: Zeqiri (x2)

Good efficiency, at least.

>
> Actual goals scored: 30
> Best goals: 100
>
>
> Nice round numbers....

About that...

Ciao,
Werner

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 12:32:25 PM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

> Kudus scored twice...

Wait, what?
[checks...]
Yes! Go Wakas! (his first goal had initially been given as an own goal)

> >
> > MatchDay 1 Points:
> > Flickers 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
> > Orphans 4 + 6 .67 = 10.67
> > Waffles/Windmills 4 + 6.67 = 10.67
> > Micronos 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
> > Wakas 3 + 2.5 = 5.5
> > Armata 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> > Bungs 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> > Jogo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> > Siglo 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> > Tugas 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> > Wonderland 2 + 0.17 = 2.17
> > Vikings 0 = 0
> ...so more shared points.

Ugh. updated standings:

TotGoals TotPoints
Flickers 4 9.75
Orphans 4 9.75
Waffles/Windmills 4 9.75
Waka-Waka 4 9.75
Micronos 3 5
Armata 2 2.17
Bungs 2 2.17
Jogo 2 2.17
Siglo 2 2.17
Tugas 2 2.17
Wonderland 2 2.17
Vikings 0 0

> >
> > Best lineups
> > Armata 7
> > DF: Provedel, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri 2(x2)
> > MF: Grifo
> > FW:

Italy's dearth of offensive talent continues: only two goals by defenders, one by a goalkeeper, and one by a German dude who has never been part of Italy's youth system...

> > Jogo 12
> > DF:
> > MF: Casemiro 2, Ederson
> > FW: Galeno 2 (x2), Tetê, Gabriel Jesus, Rwan, Joao Pedro 2
> Scored the most braces.

Despite the appearance that the golden days of Brazilians in European leagues is coming to an end, the Jogo still had the second highest score.

> > Micronos 11
> > DF: Simakan, Boey, Digne, Truffert, Macon, Sidibe
> > MF: Blas
> > FW: Mbappe (x2), Fulgini, Tel
> Missing Jonathan Clauss (DF) for Marseille.

Fixed it. Nice lineup for the Micronos, 7-1-3

> I think it's new that UEFA, forever complicating things, on their site now differentiate between 'Club Position' and 'National Team Position'.
> For some reason they have Fulgini as Club Forward and National Team Defender, when he last featured in any NT (French Under-21s) in June 2017.
> In fact he plays for Lens in midfield. Go figure.

Yes, excessive praise for UEFA is unnecessary (their website has also become a lot more clunky)

> > Orphans 7
> > DF:
> > MF: Alvarez 2 (x2), Ocampos
> > FW: La. Martinez, Ponce
> Álvarez and Ocampos are both 'Club Position' forwards.

And indeed Alvarez was listed as a forward in my lineup. Don't know why he slipped into midfield.

> > Vikings 10
> > DF:
> > MF: Elyounoussi, Ødegaard, Bøving
> > FW: Højlund, Villadsen, K. Olsen 2 (x2), Gyökeres
> Should have gone with the Faroe guy playing in Iceland! Doesn't get any more Viking than that.

:-)

> >
> > Waka-Waka 14
> > DF: Ogbu, Diomande

Diomande's shot took a deflection of Coates, and several sites have it as a Coates goal. But the UEFA honchos preferred to hurt the Wakas' efficiency score.

> > MF: Bukari, Leandro Andrade, Kudus
> > FW: Elia, Hassane Bande, Owusu, Boniface, Aubameyang 2 (x2), [Sima, Babicka]
> So Cabo Verde is part of Waka-Waka? I think we pondered that question before but I can't be bothered to look it up.

Yes, we discussed this already. It's listed as Sub Saharan Africa by the World Bank.

> >
> > Actual goals scored: 30
> > Best goals: 100
> >
> >
> > Nice round numbers....
> About that...

31 actual goals, 102 best goals

On 2023-09-22, Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:29:22 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
> Match Day 1 results and standings
>
> Flickers 4
> DF Can, Bisseck, Tah
> MF Sané © 1(x2), Gross, Wirtz 1, Musiala, Gotze, Hofler
> FW Werner, Gnabry 1, Höler

Rudiger was on for Bisseck. Not that it made any difference.

> Flickers 7
> DF: Koch
> MF: Sané, Wirtz, Hoffmann
> FW: Gnabry (x2), Philipp

Hoffmann and Philipp both second half subs; Kock with his first goal
since the 2019/20 season. You can't really be expected to make those
picks.

> Vikings 10
> DF:
> MF: Elyounoussi, Ødegaard, Bøving
> FW: Højlund, Villadsen, K. Olsen 2 (x2), Gyökeres

Elyounoussi and Ødegaard picked so many times without scoring in the
past.

On 2023-09-20, Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:32:21 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
>
> Four Newcastle players in my two teams, and they produced a single shot on goal, in the 94th minute (and that one by Almirón).
> Figures. Frankly, they were quite shocking with the ball.
>
>> I'll be attending Milan vs Newcastle tomorrow, so I couldn't resist putting a ton of players from those
>> two teams into the line-ups (I also notice that now that Okafor is playing for a 'real' team UEFA have
>> paid attention and finally marked him as a forward. Not that he's been scoring any goals.)
>>
>> So I'd recommend to go and bet on a scoreless draw in that match, it's basically free money.
>
> Ka-ching!

Some pundit called it the worst CL match he had ever seen.

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 10:11:19 PM UTC+2, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On 2023-09-20, Werner Pichler <wpic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:32:21 PM UTC+2, Werner Pichler wrote:
> >
> > Four Newcastle players in my two teams, and they produced a single shot on goal, in the 94th minute (and that one by Almirón).
> > Figures. Frankly, they were quite shocking with the ball.
> >
> >> I'll be attending Milan vs Newcastle tomorrow, so I couldn't resist putting a ton of players from those
> >> two teams into the line-ups (I also notice that now that Okafor is playing for a 'real' team UEFA have
> >> paid attention and finally marked him as a forward. Not that he's been scoring any goals.)
> >>
> >> So I'd recommend to go and bet on a scoreless draw in that match, it's basically free money.
> >
> > Ka-ching!
>
> Some pundit called it the worst CL match he had ever seen.

Worst ever? No way. Worst CL match I've ever been to, probably. Salzburg don't do 0-0.

Ciao,
Werner