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Re: Use the Net 2023 Match Day 2

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 17:28 UTC

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 12:30:17 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 9:55:22 AM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
> > Let's go with Bertrand Traore (Aston Villa and CIV)...and stick with Duncan.
> >
> > DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Ogbu
> > MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Duncan, B. Traore
> > FW: Osimhen, Boniface ©, K. Konate, Aboubakar, Tijani (NGA, Slavia)
> let's put the armband on Aboubakar, because tinkering.

Yay for tinkering!
Also goals by Vanaken and Bo/ving

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 by: MH - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 17:32 UTC

On 2023-10-03 12:20, MH wrote:
> On 2023-10-03 10:10, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-10-02 15:31, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>> Default lineups the ones that ended Match Day 1:
>>>
>>>
>>> Armata
>>> DF: Biraghi, Di Lorenzo, Zappacosta
>>> MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Cristante
>>> FW: Immobile©, Belotti, Politano, El Shaarawy
>>>
>>> Bungs
>>> DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Gomez
>>> MF: Barnes, Loftus-Cheek, Foden, March
>>> FW: Wilson, Kane, Nketiah, Rashford, Welbeck
>>>
>>> Flickers
>>> DF Can, Bisseck, Tah
>>> MF Sané ©, Gross, Wirtz, Musiala, Gotze, Hofler
>>> FW Werner, Gnabry, Höler
>>>
>>>
>>> Jogo
>>> DF: Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
>>> MF: Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro, Taison;
>>> FW: Vinícius Júnior (C), Rodrygo, Raphinha, Caio Vidal, Martinelli
>>>
>>> Micronos
>>> DF: Upamecano, L. Hernandez, Digne
>>> MF: Camavinga, Ndombele, Tchouameni, Dina Ebimbe
>>> FW: Mbappe©, Giroud, Benrahma, Griezmann, Cimignani
>>>
>>> Orphans
>>> DF: Otamendi, Molina, Li. Martinez
>>> MF: Mac Allister, Palacios, De Paul, Paredes
>>> FW: La. Martinez (c), Dybala, Icardi, J. Alvarez, Di Maria
>>>
>>> Siglo
>>> DF: Sergio Ramos, A. Balde, Carvajal
>>> MF: Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco
>>> FW: Morata©, Lamine Yamal, Ansu Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno
>>
>> Carvajal out, Le Normand in.
>>
>> NEW
>>
>> DF Ramos, Balde, Le Normand
>> MF  Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco
>> FW: Morata (C), Yamal, Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno
>>
>> Many changes yet to come, I expect.
>
> Balde out, Carvajal back in.
>
> D  Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
> MF  Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco
> FW  Morata (C), Yamal, Fati, Oyzarzabal, Moreno

Only Moreno left to tinker with.
Got out of a review session too late to change anyone else. Darn needy
students.
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Tugas
>>> DF: Raphaël Guerreiro, Gonçalo Inácio, Alexandre Penetra
>>> MF: Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Ivan Cavaleiro, Vitinha
>>> FW: Rafa Silva, João Félix, Ricardo Leão, Diogo Jota, Gonçalo Ramos©
>>>
>>> Vikings
>>> DF Gunnlaugsson, Christensen, Bah
>>> MF Frederiksberg, Grønbæk, Pellegrino, Breivik
>>> FW Haaland (C), Sørloth, Isak, Poulsen, Skov Olsen
>>>
>>>
>>> Waffles/Windmills
>>> DF. Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Dumfries
>>> MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong, De Roon, Trossard
>>> FW: Lukaku©, Xavi Simons, Openda, , Bakayoko, de Ketelaere
>>
>>
>> Whole whack of changes will come, but waiting to see lineups for later
>> games. Alderweireld, De Roon, De Jong, De Ketelaere on the chopping
>> block.
>
> Lukaku out. Lukebakio in. De Ketelaere out, Luuk De Jong in and made
> captain.
>
> DF: Van Dijk, Aldweweireld, Dumfries
> MF: Tielemans, Vanaken, Trossard, Calvin Stengs (Feyenoord)
> FW: DeJong (C), Xavi Simons, Openda, Bakayoko, Lukebakio.

Bit more latitude here with Van Dijk and Tielemans available to swap out.

Vanaken has scored.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Waka-Waka
>>> DF: Tapsoba,  Ndicka, Mbemba
>>> MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson
>>> FW: Osimhen, Boniface ©, Haller, Orban, Lookman
>>>
>>> Wonderland
>>>   DF: Schär, Alaba, Wüthrich
>>> MF: Sabitzer , Schlager, Xhaka, Zuber, Schwab
>>> FW: Okafor, Arnautović ©, Zeqiri, Gregoritsch
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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On 2023-10-05, Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
>
> DF Gunnlaugsson (Breidablik), Bah (done), Ryerson (done)
> MF Odin Thiago Holm (done), Frederiksberg (Klaksvík), Pellegrino (Bodø/Glimt).
> Haraldsson (Lille), Bøving (Graz), Vetlesen (Brugge).
> FW Højlund (done), Haaland (C,done), Ingvartsen (Nordsjælland)

Too many eggs in the early basket - Ingvartsen the only tinkering option.
Sørloth is starting, put him in so the Norwegians can redeem themselves.

DF Gunnlaugsson (done), Bah (done), Ryerson (done)
MF Odin Thiago Holm (done), Frederiksberg (done), Pellegrino (done).
Haraldsson (done), Bøving (done), Vetlesen (done).
FW Højlund (done), Haaland (C,done), Sørloth (Villarreal)

> DF Can (done), Goosens (done), Tah
> MF Sane (C, done), Musiala (done), Reus (done), Wirtz, Hoffmann, Knauff
> FW Behrens (done), Füllkrug (done), Hölerx

The square passing fraud has out Wirtz and Hoffmann on the
bench. Andrich in for Wirtz.

DF Can (done), Goosens (done), Tah
MF Sane (C, done), Musiala (done), Reus (done), Andrich, Hoffmann, Knauff
FW Behrens (done), Füllkrug (done), Höler (done)

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 by: MH - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 18:36 UTC

On 2023-10-05 11:32, MH wrote:
> On 2023-10-03 12:20, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-10-03 10:10, MH wrote:
>>> On 2023-10-02 15:31, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>> Default lineups the ones that ended Match Day 1:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Armata
>>>> DF: Biraghi, Di Lorenzo, Zappacosta
>>>> MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Cristante
>>>> FW: Immobile©, Belotti, Politano, El Shaarawy
>>>>
>>>> Bungs
>>>> DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Gomez
>>>> MF: Barnes, Loftus-Cheek, Foden, March
>>>> FW: Wilson, Kane, Nketiah, Rashford, Welbeck
>>>>
>>>> Flickers
>>>> DF Can, Bisseck, Tah
>>>> MF Sané ©, Gross, Wirtz, Musiala, Gotze, Hofler
>>>> FW Werner, Gnabry, Höler
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jogo
>>>> DF: Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
>>>> MF: Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro, Taison;
>>>> FW: Vinícius Júnior (C), Rodrygo, Raphinha, Caio Vidal, Martinelli
>>>>
>>>> Micronos
>>>> DF: Upamecano, L. Hernandez, Digne
>>>> MF: Camavinga, Ndombele, Tchouameni, Dina Ebimbe
>>>> FW: Mbappe©, Giroud, Benrahma, Griezmann, Cimignani
>>>>
>>>> Orphans
>>>> DF: Otamendi, Molina, Li. Martinez
>>>> MF: Mac Allister, Palacios, De Paul, Paredes
>>>> FW: La. Martinez (c), Dybala, Icardi, J. Alvarez, Di Maria
>>>>
>>>> Siglo
>>>> DF: Sergio Ramos, A. Balde, Carvajal
>>>> MF: Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco
>>>> FW: Morata©, Lamine Yamal, Ansu Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno
>>>
>>> Carvajal out, Le Normand in.
>>>
>>> NEW
>>>
>>> DF Ramos, Balde, Le Normand
>>> MF  Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco
>>> FW: Morata (C), Yamal, Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno
>>>
>>> Many changes yet to come, I expect.
>>
>> Balde out, Carvajal back in.
>>
>> D  Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
>> MF  Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco
>> FW  Morata (C), Yamal, Fati, Oyzarzabal, Moreno
>
>
> Only Moreno left to tinker with.
> Got out of a review session too late to change anyone else. Darn needy
> students.

Yeremy Pino in, Moreno out - will update lineup when I get back to office
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tugas
>>>> DF: Raphaël Guerreiro, Gonçalo Inácio, Alexandre Penetra
>>>> MF: Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Ivan Cavaleiro, Vitinha
>>>> FW: Rafa Silva, João Félix, Ricardo Leão, Diogo Jota, Gonçalo Ramos©
>>>>
>>>> Vikings
>>>> DF Gunnlaugsson, Christensen, Bah
>>>> MF Frederiksberg, Grønbæk, Pellegrino, Breivik
>>>> FW Haaland (C), Sørloth, Isak, Poulsen, Skov Olsen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Waffles/Windmills
>>>> DF. Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Dumfries
>>>> MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong, De Roon, Trossard
>>>> FW: Lukaku©, Xavi Simons, Openda, , Bakayoko, de Ketelaere
>>>
>>>
>>> Whole whack of changes will come, but waiting to see lineups for
>>> later games. Alderweireld, De Roon, De Jong, De Ketelaere on the
>>> chopping block.
>>
>> Lukaku out. Lukebakio in. De Ketelaere out, Luuk De Jong in and made
>> captain.
>>
>> DF: Van Dijk, Aldweweireld, Dumfries
>> MF: Tielemans, Vanaken, Trossard, Calvin Stengs (Feyenoord)
>> FW: DeJong (C), Xavi Simons, Openda, Bakayoko, Lukebakio.
>
> Bit more latitude here with Van Dijk and Tielemans available to swap out.
>
> Vanaken has scored.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Waka-Waka
>>>> DF: Tapsoba,  Ndicka, Mbemba
>>>> MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Kanga, Milson
>>>> FW: Osimhen, Boniface ©, Haller, Orban, Lookman
>>>>
>>>> Wonderland
>>>>   DF: Schär, Alaba, Wüthrich
>>>> MF: Sabitzer , Schlager, Xhaka, Zuber, Schwab
>>>> FW: Okafor, Arnautović ©, Zeqiri, Gregoritsch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 19:29 UTC

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 2:36:21 PM UTC-4, MH wrote:
> > Vanaken has scored.
> >>

So has Isco, putting the Siglo on 6.
Captain Aboubakar's brace and a goal by Ogbu put the Waka on 5.
Every other Waka on the planet is conspiring to drive down my efficiency score.

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 by: MH - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 19:58 UTC

On 2023-10-05 12:36, MH wrote:
> On 2023-10-05 11:32, MH wrote:
>
>>>>> Siglo
>>>>> DF: Sergio Ramos, A. Balde, Carvajal
>>>>> MF: Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco
>>>>> FW: Morata©, Lamine Yamal, Ansu Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno
>>>>
>>>> Carvajal out, Le Normand in.
>>>>
>>>> NEW
>>>>
>>>> DF Ramos, Balde, Le Normand
>>>> MF  Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco
>>>> FW: Morata (C), Yamal, Fati, Oyarzabal, Moreno
>>>>
>>>> Many changes yet to come, I expect.
>>>
>>> Balde out, Carvajal back in.
>>>
>>> D  Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
>>> MF  Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco
>>> FW  Morata (C), Yamal, Fati, Oyzarzabal, Moreno
>>
>>
>> Only Moreno left to tinker with.
>> Got out of a review session too late to change anyone else. Darn needy
>> students.
>
> Yeremy Pino in, Moreno out - will update lineup when I get back to office

FInal lineup

D: Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
MF Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco (1)
FW: Morata (C) 2X 2, Yamal, Fati, Oyarzabal(1), Pino

>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tugas
>>>>> DF: Raphaël Guerreiro, Gonçalo Inácio, Alexandre Penetra
>>>>> MF: Bernardo Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Ivan Cavaleiro, Vitinha
>>>>> FW: Rafa Silva, João Félix, Ricardo Leão, Diogo Jota, Gonçalo Ramos©
>>>>>
>>>>> Vikings
>>>>> DF Gunnlaugsson, Christensen, Bah
>>>>> MF Frederiksberg, Grønbæk, Pellegrino, Breivik
>>>>> FW Haaland (C), Sørloth, Isak, Poulsen, Skov Olsen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Waffles/Windmills
>>>>> DF. Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Dumfries
>>>>> MF: Tielemans, F. De Jong, De Roon, Trossard
>>>>> FW: Lukaku©, Xavi Simons, Openda, , Bakayoko, de Ketelaere
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Whole whack of changes will come, but waiting to see lineups for
>>>> later games. Alderweireld, De Roon, De Jong, De Ketelaere on the
>>>> chopping block.
>>>
>>> Lukaku out. Lukebakio in. De Ketelaere out, Luuk De Jong in and made
>>> captain.
>>>
>>> DF: Van Dijk, Aldweweireld, Dumfries
>>> MF: Tielemans, Vanaken, Trossard, Calvin Stengs (Feyenoord)
>>> FW: DeJong (C), Xavi Simons, Openda, Bakayoko, Lukebakio.
>>
>> Bit more latitude here with Van Dijk and Tielemans available to swap out.
>>
>> Vanaken has scored.
>>>
>>>
>
So have Lukaku and Gravenberch. Brain fart on Lukaku. Looked at the
lineups and so he was not playing. For Inter....

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On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 5:32:00 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:

MD2 results and standings:

Siglo 6
DF: Sergio Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
MF: Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco 1
FW: Morata© 2(x2), Lamine Yamal, Ansu Fati, Oyarzabal 1, Y. Pino

Waka-Waka 5
DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Ogbu 1
MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Duncan, B. Traore
FW: Osimhen, Boniface, K. Konate, Aboubakar © 2 (x2), Tijani

Vikings 4
DF Gunnlaugsson, Bah, Ryerson
MF Odin Thiago Holm, Frederiksberg, Pellegrino, Haraldsson, Bøving 1, Vetlesen
FW Højlund 2, Haaland (C), Sørloth 1

Waffles/Windmills 4
DF: Van Dijk, Aldweweireld, Dumfries
MF: Tielemans, Vanaken 1, Trossard, Calvin Stengs
FW: L. DeJong © 1(x2), Xavi Simons, Openda 1, Bakayoko, Lukebakio.

Jogo 3
DF: Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
MF: Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro, Taison;
FW: Vinícius Júnior © 1(x2), Rodrygo, Gabriel Jesus 1, Caio Vidal, Martinelli

Armata 2
DF: Dimarco, Di Lorenzo, Biraghi
MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Sottil
FW: Immobile©, Belotti 2, Politano, El Shaarawy

Bungs 2
DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Gomez
MF: Bellingham 1, Rice, Foden 1, March
FW: Saka, Kane ©, Rashford, Welbeck, Watkins

Orphans 2
DF: Otamendi, Molina, Acuna
MF: Mac Allister, Palacios, De Paul, Paredes
FW: La. Martinez (c), N. Gonzalez, Icardi 1, J. Alvarez 1, Di Maria

Tugas 2
DF: D Carmo, R Guerreiro, A Penetra
MF: B Fernandes©, T Dantas, G Fernandes, D Podence 1
FW: D Jota 1, J Félix, R Horta, R Leão, Paulinho

Flickers 1
DF Can, Goosens, Tah
MF Sane (C), Musiala 1, Reus, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Knauff
FW Behrens, Füllkrug, Höler

Micronos 1
DF: Lenglet, Varane, Coulibaly
MF: Tchouameni, Coquelin, Tousart, Malouda
FW: Mpappé©, Griezmann 1, Muani, Coman, Giroud

Wonderland 1
DF: Baidoo, Akanji, Affengruber
MF: Laimer, Schlager, Xhaka, Schwab, Žulj
FW: Okafor, Itten 1, Zeqiri ©, Drmić

Which gives the following standings for MD2:
Siglo 6 + 10 = 16
Waka 5 + 6 = 11
Vikings 4 + 3.5 = 7.5
Waffmills 4 + 3.5 = 7.5
Jogo 3 + 2 = 5
Armata 2 + 0.25 = 2.25
Bungs 2 + 0.25 = 2.25
Orphans 2 + 0.25 = 2.25
Tugas 2 + 0.25 = 2.25
Flickers 1 + 0 = 1
Micronos 1 + 0 = 1
Wonderland 1 + 0 = 1

And the overall standings:

TotGoals TotPoints
Waka-Waka 9 20.75
Siglo 8 18.17
Waffmills 8 17.25
Orphans 6 12
Flickers 5 10.75
Vikings 4 7.5
Jogo 5 7.17
Micronos 4 6
Armata 4 4.42
Bungs 4 4.42
Tugas 4 4.42
Wonderland 3 3.17

Finally, the optimal lineups:

Armata 7
DF: Scalvini, Ruggeri
MF: Lo. Pellegrini
FW: Belotti 2 (x2)

Bungs 6
DF: Burn
MF: Bellingham (x2), Longstaff, Foden, Tella
FW:

Flickers 3
DF:
MF: Musiala (x2), Groß
FW:

Jogo 5
DF:
MF: Paquetá
FW: Gabriel Jesus (x2), Vinicius Junior, Joao Pedro

Micronos 10
DF: L. Hernandez, I. Cissé
MF: Thomasson, Veretout
FW: Tel (x2), Wahi, M. Thuram, Griezmann, Ikone

Orphans 4
DF:
MF:
FW: Icardi (x2), Alvarez, Aliseda

Siglo 10
DF:
MF: B. Mendez, Isco
FW: Oyarzabal, Morata 2(x2), F. Torres, Pedro, Diao

Tugas 5
DF:
MF: Castro, Podence
FW: Bruma (x2), D. Jota

Vikings 16
DF: Østigaard, Tverskov
MF: Lerager, Bøving, Breivik, King 2
FW: Højlund 2(x2), Ingvartsen, Gyökeres, Nygren 2, Sørloth, [Rasmussen]

Waffles/Windmills 12
DF: Teze, Frimpong
MF: Balikwisha, Vanaken, Heynen, Gravenberch
FW: L. de Jong (x2), Openda, Doku, Bergwijn, Lukaku

Waka-Waka 15
DF: Niakaté, Moucketou-Moussounda, Mbemba, Verdon, Ogbu
MF: Bukari, Ofori
FW: Zaha, Ndiaye, Aboubakar 2(x2), Sima, Paintsil, [Osman, Babicka]

Wonderland 4
DF: Schär
MF: Ugrinic
FW: Itten (x2)

More comments to follow.

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 by: Werner Pichler - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:26 UTC

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 3:55:22 PM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 12:30:24 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 5:54:00 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> >
> > DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Ogbu
> > MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Duncan, Angel Gomes (ANG, Lille)
> > FW: Osimhen, Boniface ©, K. Konate, Aboubakar, Tijani (NGA, Slavia)
>
> I should be able to get better midfielders than Duncan and Angel Gomes (who apparently is also eligible for the Bungs and Tugas...)

What's the rule here for efficiency purposes? Latest Youth NT allegiance first (so at the outset he'd have been one of
the Bungs, like Assane Diao belongs to the Siglo), but since you put him in your line-up before anyone else he's now a
Waka, and neither me nor HASM can pick him?

Ciao,
Werner

> Let's go with Bertrand Traore (Aston Villa and CIV)...and stick with Duncan.
>
> DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Ogbu
> MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Duncan, B. Traore
> FW: Osimhen, Boniface ©, K. Konate, Aboubakar, Tijani (NGA, Slavia)

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 by: Werner Pichler - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 08:26 UTC

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 3:19:31 AM UTC+2, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 5:32:00 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
> MD2 results and standings:

Captain points are crucial.

> Siglo 6
> DF: Sergio Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
> MF: Rodri, Gavi, Merino, Isco 1
> FW: Morata© 2(x2), Lamine Yamal, Ansu Fati, Oyarzabal 1, Y. Pino
>
> Waka-Waka 5
> DF: Tapsoba, Ndicka, Ogbu 1
> MF: Kudus, Anguissa, Duncan, B. Traore
> FW: Osimhen, Boniface, K. Konate, Aboubakar © 2 (x2), Tijani
>
> Vikings 4
> DF Gunnlaugsson, Bah, Ryerson
> MF Odin Thiago Holm, Frederiksberg, Pellegrino, Haraldsson, Bøving 1, Vetlesen
> FW Højlund 2, Haaland (C), Sørloth 1
>
> Waffles/Windmills 4
> DF: Van Dijk, Aldweweireld, Dumfries
> MF: Tielemans, Vanaken 1, Trossard, Calvin Stengs
> FW: L. DeJong © 1(x2), Xavi Simons, Openda 1, Bakayoko, Lukebakio.
>
> Jogo 3
> DF: Rodinei, Marquinhos, Juan Jesus;
> MF: Fred, Bruno Guimarães, Casemiro, Taison;
> FW: Vinícius Júnior © 1(x2), Rodrygo, Gabriel Jesus 1, Caio Vidal, Martinelli
>
> Armata 2
> DF: Dimarco, Di Lorenzo, Biraghi
> MF: Barella, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Sottil
> FW: Immobile©, Belotti 2, Politano, El Shaarawy
>
> Bungs 2
> DF: Trippier, Tavernier, Gomez
> MF: Bellingham 1, Rice, Foden 1, March
> FW: Saka, Kane ©, Rashford, Welbeck, Watkins
>
> Orphans 2
> DF: Otamendi, Molina, Acuna
> MF: Mac Allister, Palacios, De Paul, Paredes
> FW: La. Martinez (c), N. Gonzalez, Icardi 1, J. Alvarez 1, Di Maria
>
> Tugas 2
> DF: D Carmo, R Guerreiro, A Penetra
> MF: B Fernandes©, T Dantas, G Fernandes, D Podence 1
> FW: D Jota 1, J Félix, R Horta, R Leão, Paulinho
>
> Flickers 1
> DF Can, Goosens, Tah
> MF Sane (C), Musiala 1, Reus, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Knauff
> FW Behrens, Füllkrug, Höler
>
> Micronos 1
> DF: Lenglet, Varane, Coulibaly
> MF: Tchouameni, Coquelin, Tousart, Malouda
> FW: Mpappé©, Griezmann 1, Muani, Coman, Giroud
>
>
> Wonderland 1
> DF: Baidoo, Akanji, Affengruber
> MF: Laimer, Schlager, Xhaka, Schwab, Žulj
> FW: Okafor, Itten 1, Zeqiri ©, Drmić
>
>
> Which gives the following standings for MD2:
> Siglo 6 + 10 = 16
> Waka 5 + 6 = 11
> Vikings 4 + 3.5 = 7.5
> Waffmills 4 + 3.5 = 7.5
> Jogo 3 + 2 = 5
> Armata 2 + 0.25 = 2.25
> Bungs 2 + 0.25 = 2.25
> Orphans 2 + 0.25 = 2.25
> Tugas 2 + 0.25 = 2.25
> Flickers 1 + 0 = 1
> Micronos 1 + 0 = 1
> Wonderland 1 + 0 = 1
>
> And the overall standings:
>
> TotGoals TotPoints
> Waka-Waka 9 20.75
> Siglo 8 18.17
> Waffmills 8 17.25
> Orphans 6 12
> Flickers 5 10.75
> Vikings 4 7.5
> Jogo 5 7.17
> Micronos 4 6
> Armata 4 4.42
> Bungs 4 4.42
> Tugas 4 4.42
> Wonderland 3 3.17
>
>
> Finally, the optimal lineups:
>
> Armata 7
> DF: Scalvini, Ruggeri
> MF: Lo. Pellegrini
> FW: Belotti 2 (x2)
>
> Bungs 6
> DF: Burn
> MF: Bellingham (x2), Longstaff, Foden, Tella
> FW:

If the Armata has a striker problem, then what about the Bungs?

> Flickers 3
> DF:
> MF: Musiala (x2), Groß
> FW:
>
> Jogo 5
> DF:
> MF: Paquetá
> FW: Gabriel Jesus (x2), Vinicius Junior, Joao Pedro

Missing Qarabağ's Juninho (FW).

> Micronos 10
> DF: L. Hernandez, I. Cissé
> MF: Thomasson, Veretout
> FW: Tel (x2), Wahi, M. Thuram, Griezmann, Ikone
>
> Orphans 4
> DF:
> MF:
> FW: Icardi (x2), Alvarez, Aliseda

Very good efficiency.

> Siglo 10
> DF:
> MF: B. Mendez, Isco
> FW: Oyarzabal, Morata 2(x2), F. Torres, Pedro, Diao

UEFA has Oyarzabal as a midfielder.

> Tugas 5
> DF:
> MF: Castro, Podence
> FW: Bruma (x2), D. Jota
>
> Vikings 16
> DF: Østigaard, Tverskov
> MF: Lerager, Bøving, Breivik, King 2
> FW: Højlund 2(x2), Ingvartsen, Gyökeres, Nygren 2, Sørloth, [Rasmussen]
>
> Waffles/Windmills 12
> DF: Teze, Frimpong
> MF: Balikwisha, Vanaken, Heynen, Gravenberch
> FW: L. de Jong (x2), Openda, Doku, Bergwijn, Lukaku

Balikwisha is a forward.

> Waka-Waka 15
> DF: Niakaté, Moucketou-Moussounda, Mbemba, Verdon, Ogbu
> MF: Bukari, Ofori
> FW: Zaha, Ndiaye, Aboubakar 2(x2), Sima, Paintsil, [Osman, Babicka]
>
> Wonderland 4
> DF: Schär
> MF: Ugrinic
> FW: Itten (x2)

Yeah, not good.
Lugano's Vladi would still be eligible for Switzerland, but he has already been called up
by Kosovo (no actual caps yet though).

Ciao,
Werner

>
> More comments to follow.

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 13:49 UTC

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 3:26:55 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:

> What's the rule here for efficiency purposes? Latest Youth NT allegiance first (so at the outset he'd have been one of
> the Bungs, like Assane Diao belongs to the Siglo), but since you put him in your line-up before anyone else he's now a
> Waka, and neither me nor HASM can pick him?

Good question: I would say that since he has not appeared for the Wakas yet (was called up, but didn't play), he's still eligible for all three.

On the other hand, Ivan Cavaleiro has already played for the Tugas (despite having decided to represent Angola), so he's not available to be picked by the Wakas.

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 14:05 UTC

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:26:49 AM UTC-4, Werner Pichler wrote:
> Captain points are crucial.

That's very often the case in many Fantasy games.

> > Finally, the optimal lineups:
> >
> > Armata 7
> > DF: Scalvini, Ruggeri
> > MF: Lo. Pellegrini
> > FW: Belotti 2 (x2)
> >
> > Bungs 6
> > DF: Burn
> > MF: Bellingham (x2), Longstaff, Foden, Tella
> > FW:
> If the Armata has a striker problem, then what about the Bungs?

You have Harry Kane, the golden generation, how can you complain?

> > Flickers 3
> > DF:
> > MF: Musiala (x2), Groß
> > FW:
>

Athens and Sparta may be crying, Corinth isn't doing much better.

> > Jogo 5
> > DF:
> > MF: Paquetá
> > FW: Gabriel Jesus (x2), Vinicius Junior, Joao Pedro
> Missing Qarabağ's Juninho (FW).

Thanks, will fix it.

> > Micronos 10
> > DF: L. Hernandez, I. Cissé
> > MF: Thomasson, Veretout
> > FW: Tel (x2), Wahi, M. Thuram, Griezmann, Ikone
> >
> > Orphans 4
> > DF:
> > MF:
> > FW: Icardi (x2), Alvarez, Aliseda
> Very good efficiency.

There isn't a lot to choose from.

> > Siglo 10
> > DF:
> > MF: B. Mendez, Isco
> > FW: Oyarzabal, Morata 2(x2), F. Torres, Pedro, Diao
> UEFA has Oyarzabal as a midfielder.

Thanks. useful to know for the Siglo manager, has no effect on efficiency scores.

> > Waffles/Windmills 12
> > DF: Teze, Frimpong
> > MF: Balikwisha, Vanaken, Heynen, Gravenberch
> > FW: L. de Jong (x2), Openda, Doku, Bergwijn, Lukaku
> Balikwisha is a forward.

This would affect the efficiency score, but I was pretty sure I had checked.. Will check again.

> > Waka-Waka 15
> > DF: Niakaté, Moucketou-Moussounda, Mbemba, Verdon, Ogbu
> > MF: Bukari, Ofori
> > FW: Zaha, Ndiaye, Aboubakar 2(x2), Sima, Paintsil, [Osman, Babicka]

"Olivier Jacques Verdon (born 5 October 1995) is a professional footballer who plays as a central defender for Bulgarian club Ludogorets Razgrad. Born in France, he represents Benin at international level..."

Verdon, a Beninese defender on penalties, should be a lock for my team!

"... He has become known for repeated instances of domestic violence, attempted murder, and aggression against partners."

Or maybe not?

> > Wonderland 4
> > DF: Schär
> > MF: Ugrinic
> > FW: Itten (x2)
> Yeah, not good.
> Lugano's Vladi would still be eligible for Switzerland, but he has already been called up
> by Kosovo (no actual caps yet though).

I had him originally as a Wonderlander, then changed it.

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 by: MH - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 17:26 UTC

On 2023-10-05 19:19, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 5:32:00 PM UTC-4, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>

>
> Finally, the optimal lineups:
>
> Armata 7
> DF: Scalvini, Ruggeri
> MF: Lo. Pellegrini
> FW: Belotti 2 (x2)
>
> Bungs 6
> DF: Burn
> MF: Bellingham (x2), Longstaff, Foden, Tella
> FW:
>
> Flickers 3
> DF:
> MF: Musiala (x2), Groß
> FW:
>
> Jogo 5
> DF:
> MF: Paquetá
> FW: Gabriel Jesus (x2), Vinicius Junior, Joao Pedro
>
> Micronos 10
> DF: L. Hernandez, I. Cissé
> MF: Thomasson, Veretout
> FW: Tel (x2), Wahi, M. Thuram, Griezmann, Ikone
>
> Orphans 4
> DF:
> MF:
> FW: Icardi (x2), Alvarez, Aliseda
>
> Siglo 10
> DF:
> MF: B. Mendez, Isco
> FW: Oyarzabal, Morata 2(x2), F. Torres, Pedro, Diao

Pedro looked well offside when the cross was hit. I am surprised that
goal stood scrutiny. Rangers must be furious
>
> Tugas 5
> DF:
> MF: Castro, Podence
> FW: Bruma (x2), D. Jota

And as for Diego Jota, maybe I am imagining things, but it looked to me
(in real time as well as replay) that he deliberately knocked the ball
forward with his hand (a la Maradonna) when he went up for the high ball
that was punted forward. At least one defender was claiming this from
what I could see, but it seemed to fall on deaf ears and the
commentators did not even mention it, and that the goal should have been
subject to serious scrutiny in the build up.
>

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MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> writes:

> And as for Diego Jota, maybe I am imagining things, but it looked to
> me (in real time as well as replay) that he deliberately knocked the
> ball forward with his hand (a la Maradonna) when he went up for the
> high ball that was punted forward.

Hard to tell, you be the judge.
https://www.silvado.com/rss/jota.png
His hand moves quite quickly between two frames and those are all the
frames mplayer extracted in the sequence. He is all over number 27 too.

-- HASM

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