In article <tuquii9ibiuvfogkrnc3ds7es6nj6hbao0@4ax.com>,
anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
>Quoting HASM in rec.sport.soccer:
>>
>>Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
>> Blueshirt
>> HASM
>> Jesper Lauridsen
>> MH
>> Mark
>> Real Mardin
>> The Doctor
>> Werner Pichler
>
>I see the thread, just haven't posted anything.
>
>Using https://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php
>

I do not see anything from Google Groups posters.

>
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Lléo <llb.moura@gmail.com> writes:

> plus one by MichaelFalkner.

The last Michael Falkner post I see on eternal-september is from
Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:59:48 -0700 (PDT)
not sure if that is before or after the cut off date.

> Can you see this one?

Yes, this one came through, as well as another later one in the
Conmebol WCQ 2026, Round 4
thread.

-- HASM

HASM wrote:

> Ll=C3=A9o <llb.moura@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > plus one by MichaelFalkner.
>
> The last Michael Falkner post I see on eternal-september is from
> Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:59:48 -0700 (PDT)
> not sure if that is before or after the cut off date.

From what I understand Eternal-September are not going to be blocking
every post to their servers that originate from Google Groups. They are
trying to get their filters to catch as much of the spam as it can. So
that might mean some false positives and genuine posts get blocked, it
might also mean some spam gets through whilst they tweak things. But it
is not a complete block of everything injected from groups.google.com
which is why there are visible posts here from GG users.

On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 4:14:51 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
> HASM wrote:
> > Ll=C3=A9o <llb....@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > plus one by MichaelFalkner.
> >
> > The last Michael Falkner post I see on eternal-september is from
> > Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:59:48 -0700 (PDT)
> > not sure if that is before or after the cut off date.
> From what I understand Eternal-September are not going to be blocking
> every post to their servers that originate from Google Groups. They are
> trying to get their filters to catch as much of the spam as it can. So
> that might mean some false positives and genuine posts get blocked, it
> might also mean some spam gets through whilst they tweak things. But it
> is not a complete block of everything injected from groups.google.com
> which is why there are visible posts here from GG users.

Is there a newsreader / server we can all sign up to and be confident of seeing each other’s posts?

RM

Real Mardin wrote:
>
> Is there a newsreader / server we can all sign up to and be confident
> of seeing each other’s posts?

Eternal-September offer free access to Usenet... they carry over 30,000
newsgroups.

https://www.eternal-september.org/

There are a variety of free newsreaders out there...

On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 1:25:48 AM UTC-4, anders t wrote:
> Quoting HASM in rec.sport.soccer:
> >
> >Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
> > Blueshirt
> > HASM
> > Jesper Lauridsen
> > MH
> > Mark
> > Real Mardin
> > The Doctor
> > Werner Pichler
> I see the thread, just haven't posted anything.
>
> Using https://www.forteinc.com/apn/index.php

I'm using Google Groups. I can see all the posts on this thread. I haven't posted much in the past two weeks for other reasons.

In article <xn0o88pk9v4filv000@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Real Mardin wrote:
>>
>> Is there a newsreader / server we can all sign up to and be confident
>> of seeing each other’s posts?
>
>Eternal-September offer free access to Usenet... they carry over 30,000
>newsgroups.
>
>https://www.eternal-september.org/
>
>There are a variety of free newsreaders out there...
>

As long as we ween people off of GG!
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On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 1:14:42 PM UTC+3, Mark wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 7:42:27 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:15:49 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
> > > Michael Falkner wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
> > > > > doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
> > > > > Also not seen eternal-september.
> > > >
> > > > It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google
> > > > Groups, to at least a certain extent.
> > > If only!
> > Am I in the minority using Google Groups, then? Just how many on here won’t be able to view posts by Google Groups users?
> >
> > RSS is already a shadow of its former self without the group becoming further divided along Google Groups/ Newsreader lines.
> >
> >
> > RM
> I use google groups! I don't even know what a newsreader is! If we can't access rss without google groups I won't even know how to access it.
>
> As far as I remember, G2 (by which I think is meant google groups) usually ranks highly among the most used "newsreaders" in the stats that The Doctor posts here. So that suggests that we're not in the minority; I'm not sure though.
>
> If The Doctor keeps having this problem, this could be a problem for UPT.

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Google Groups spam? How about newsreader SPAM? E.g.:
“Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
If you can find time to grouse about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com” (10K a year’s time!!!)

PS
Don’t forget how intelligently the GG posts can be formatted now:
• https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/G78U7Qx1Mr8?hl=en
• Usenet Redivivus! Best Post Viewing in Google Groups.

On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 1:14:42 PM UTC+3, Mark wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 17, 2023 at 7:42:27 AM UTC+1, Real Mardin wrote:
> > On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 10:15:49 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
> > > Michael Falkner wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Monday, October 16, 2023 at 5:18:32 AM UTC-7, HASM wrote:
> > > > > doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > All GG is not being seen at nk.ca !!
> > > > > Also not seen eternal-september.
> > > >
> > > > It appears as if the Usenet Death Penalty has been given to Google
> > > > Groups, to at least a certain extent.
> > > If only!
> > Am I in the minority using Google Groups, then? Just how many on here won’t be able to view posts by Google Groups users?
> >
> > RSS is already a shadow of its former self without the group becoming further divided along Google Groups/ Newsreader lines.
> >
> >
> > RM
> I use google groups! I don't even know what a newsreader is! If we can't access rss without google groups I won't even know how to access it.
>
> As far as I remember, G2 (by which I think is meant google groups) usually ranks highly among the most used "newsreaders" in the stats that The Doctor posts here. So that suggests that we're not in the minority; I'm not sure though.
>
> If The Doctor keeps having this problem, this could be a problem for UPT.

Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomatici et al.:

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Google Groups spam? How about newsreader SPAM? E.g.:
“Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b
If you can find time to grouse about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com” (10K times a year’s time!!!)

PS
Don’t forget how intelligently the GG posts can be formatted now:
• https://groups.google.com/g/rec.sport.soccer/c/G78U7Qx1Mr8?hl=en
• Usenet Redivivus! Best Post Viewing in Google Groups.

On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 12:48:13 AM UTC+3, The Doctor wrote:
>
> As long as we ween people off of GG!
> --
> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
> Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

This weirdo, “The Patient-Make-Believe-Doctor”, immediately replied to my previous post and also reposted a dozen of older posts of mine in this thread (then deleted). ALL posted via Google Groups, while he was crying because he couldn’t see… GG posts! Such a sicko! “Beware AntiChrist rising! Beware Liberal King Satan President! Beware Yahweh Allahu Akbar!”

> Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:

Posts from google groups started showing up again.

-- HASM

Ion Saliu wrote:
>
> Keep out of Google Groups while (still) paying for newsreading services?
> “A sucker is born every minute.”

Usenet is free... the people who pay for Usenet services are not paying to
post text messages to RSS or newsgroups like this, they are [generally]
paying to access binary content and/or use Usenet to download movies, TV
shows, books and music...

Anyone can access Usenet using a free news service provider, currently the
most popular is eternal-september.
>
> Google Groups spam? How about newsreader SPAM? E.g.:
> “Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist
> rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
> https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b If you can find time to grouse
> about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware
> https://mindspring.com” (10K a year’s time!!!)

Most newsreaders have a setting to ignore sig files. I don't see Dave's
religious spam that makes up his signature. Google Groups show them...
everyone else avoids them! That's why highly configurable newsreaders are
better for newsgroup users than Google's online interface... IMHO of
course.

HASM wrote:

>
> > Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
>
> Posts from google groups started showing up again.

Ray at ES has obviously tweaked his filters so less false positives are
showing up... the plan was never to block everything from Google Groups,
just catch some of the more problematic spam. (Some groups were being
flooded.)

In article <87y1fypxrt.fsf@127.0.0.1>, HASM <hasm@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
>
>Posts from google groups started showing up again.
>
>-- HASM

From who?
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Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

In article <ugr9pd$bto1$1@dont-email.me>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Ion Saliu wrote:
>>
>> Keep out of Google Groups while (still) paying for newsreading services?
>> “A sucker is born every minute.”
>
>Usenet is free... the people who pay for Usenet services are not paying to
>post text messages to RSS or newsgroups like this, they are [generally]
>paying to access binary content and/or use Usenet to download movies, TV
>shows, books and music...
>
>Anyone can access Usenet using a free news service provider, currently the
>most popular is eternal-september.
>>
>> Google Groups spam? How about newsreader SPAM? E.g.:
>> “Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
>> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist
>> rising! Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism
>> https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=94a1f39b If you can find time to grouse
>> about them, you can find time to pray for them. -unknown Beware
>> https://mindspring.com” (10K a year’s time!!!)
>
>Most newsreaders have a setting to ignore sig files. I don't see Dave's
>religious spam that makes up his signature. Google Groups show them...
>everyone else avoids them! That's why highly configurable newsreaders are
>better for newsgroup users than Google's online interface... IMHO of
>course.

GG sucks!
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Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

In article <ugr9ul$buru$1@dont-email.me>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>HASM wrote:
>
>>
>> > Since The Doctor started this thread, I've only seen posts from:
>>
>> Posts from google groups started showing up again.
>
>Ray at ES has obviously tweaked his filters so less false positives are
>showing up... the plan was never to block everything from Google Groups,
>just catch some of the more problematic spam. (Some groups were being
>flooded.)

comp.lang.c
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doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:

>> Posts from google groups started showing up again.
> From who?

Binder, Futbolmetrix, maybe others.

-- HASM

In article <87r0lqp4wj.fsf@127.0.0.1>, HASM <hasm@example.invalid> wrote:
>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
>
>>> Posts from google groups started showing up again.
>> From who?
>
>Binder, Futbolmetrix, maybe others.
>
>-- HASM

I do not see anything from Google GRoups.
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On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:51:56 AM UTC+1, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <87r0lqp...@127.0.0.1>, HASM wrote:
> >doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
> >
> >>> Posts from google groups started showing up again.
> >> From who?
> >
> >Binder, Futbolmetrix, maybe others.
> >
> >-- HASM
> I do not see anything from Google GRoups.
> --
> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
> Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com

I've seen you respond to a post from google groups in another thread.

I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is, but could that be the problem?

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:22:28 AM UTC+3, Mark wrote:
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:51:56 AM UTC+1, The Doctor wrote:
> > In article <87r0lqp...@127.0.0.1>, HASM wrote:
> > >doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) writes:
> > >
> > >>> Posts from google groups started showing up again.
> > >> From who?
> > >
> > >Binder, Futbolmetrix, maybe others.
> > >
> > >-- HASM
> > I do not see anything from Google GRoups.
> > --
> > Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> > Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
> > Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
> > Confusion gives protections to evil while ignoring the innocent. -unknown Beware https://mindspring.com
> I've seen you respond to a post from google groups in another thread.
>
> I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is, but could that be the problem?

M’ritser:

Axiomático, the group you asked about, used to be a useful programming community dedicated to the C language. C is the most widely-used programming language — Windows is written in C in a large measure. Lately, that group has become a mountain of spam. It has absolutely nothing to do with programming!
• https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.c

There are many newsgroups in that state of filth. Even this rec.sport.soccer (RSS) shows signs of spamming. You can see on this RSS page threads like: “BUY QUALITY COUNTERFEIT MONEY”, or “BUY 100% UNDETECTABLE COUNTERFEIT MONEY £,$,€”. The “author”, “Michael Fisher”, spams several newsgroups. In a blackjack forum, for example, he “sells” lots of books… inexistent, of course!

“The Patient-Make-Believe-Doctor” is such a pathological liar! He responded in minutes to my first post in this thread. As you can see, my post was published via Google Groups (GG). I was also notified that there were “33 new messages in this thread”. Surprisingly, all the “new messages” were older posts I made in this newsgroup — all published via GG! My messages were reposted by “The Patient-Make-Believe-Doctor”! Then, he deleted his reply and my “33 new messages”.

No doubt, “The Patient-Make-Believe-Doctor” lies like an old dog. Why? Well, he is a sicko. He probably felt worse than usual and started this “FYI” thread. Methinks, he intended to curse us: “F(uque) Y(ou) I(diots)!”

The “comp.lang.c massacre” makes an even stronger argument in favor of Google Groups. Irritants like “comp.lang.c” won’t invade your computer. Unless, of course, you go there intentionally via your browser.

Other posters here made a good point. The newsreaders give the opportunity to download binary files directly (music, movies, etc.) In GG you can only post links to file depositories. Caveat:

“• Q: Will we terminate an account for posting binary messages in a non-binary group?
• A: We will first ask them to stop. If they refuse, we will terminate.”

Mark <Pammiesheart@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is,
> but could that be the problem?

Check comp.lang.c and e.g. comp.lang.c++ on google groups and you'll
understand the spam problem I think The Doctor is hinting at.

-- HASM

In article <87mswdphvy.fsf@127.0.0.1>, HASM <hasm@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>Mark <Pammiesheart@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>
>> I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is,
>> but could that be the problem?
>
>Check comp.lang.c and e.g. comp.lang.c++ on google groups and you'll
>understand the spam problem I think The Doctor is hinting at.
>
>-- HASM
>
>
>

Exactly and comp.arch !
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On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 4:01:43 PM UTC+3, HASM wrote:
> Mark <Pammie...@yahoo.co.uk> writes:
>
> > I've got no idea what this comp.lang.c that you keep mentioning is,
> > but could that be the problem?
> Check comp.lang.c and e.g. comp.lang.c++ on google groups and you'll
> understand the spam problem I think The Doctor is hinting at.
>
> -- HASM

Hasmitser:

There are many more newsgroups in that predicament, axiomaticule. But it ain’t the fault of GG. SPAM can be distributed right from newsreaders.. Just look at our Sicko Yahwe here (his signature).

For sure, it is very hard to combat the spamming operation of the “Michael Fishers” of the world. One action can affect them, however. Send them emails via the addresses they advertise in their spam. IF many such emails flood the spammer inboxes, their email accounts may as well be closed. I know it happened in a lottery newsgroup.

“I received a phone call
From one who claimed was tall.
Then, he cursed me even worse
For my gambling on the horse.”

Ion Saliu wrote:
>
> There are many more newsgroups in that predicament. But it
> ain’t the fault of GG.

It certainly is the fault of Google Groups as they are the originators of
that spam, plus Google don't do anything to stop people spamming and
rarely respond or action abuse complaints. Which proper Usenet providers
would. People create throw-away g-mail addresses and spam away via the
Google Groups web interface, then create another and another... or their
bots do.

> SPAM can be distributed right from newsreaders.

It can and sometimes is, but if you register an account with any Usenet
service provider, then your account can be closed if they receive abuse
complaints. All headers of posts to Usenet contain message ID's and a
trace to the account that posted it. If that account is used solely to
post spam the account would be closed. Probably after a cease and desist
e-mail.

Google is the wild west...

> Just look at our Sicko Yahwe here (his signature).

You mean the great Google don't allow you to hide people's signatures?
Clearly they take Usenet very seriously. ;-)