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* Use the Net 2023 Match Day 4Futbolmetrix
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Re: Use the Net 2023 Match Day 4

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Subject: Re: Use the Net 2023 Match Day 4
From: wpichler@gmail.com (Werner Pichler)
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 by: Werner Pichler - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 15:07 UTC

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 4:06:34 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 3:40:22 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-5, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 8:58:27 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 6:30:13 PM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:17:13 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Default starting lineups the ones that finished MD3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Let's go all-in on the early game.
> > > >
> > > > A great plan. Infallible, even.
> > > Speaking about infallible plans, almost forgot about the whole picking players in matches I attend thing.
> > >
> > > Arnautović is supposedly back to match fitness and in Inter's squad. In for Okafor.
> > Erm... Okafor has already played (sort of...) you can't sub him out.
>
> Wait, you're telling me he's not a Salzburg

....player...

> anymore?

Ciao,
Werner

Re: Use the Net 2023 Match Day 4

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Subject: Re: Use the Net 2023 Match Day 4
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 by: Jesper Lauridsen - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 19:21 UTC

ES post not showing on GG at the moment. Testing to see if GG is even working.

Re: Use the Net 2023 Match Day 4

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Subject: Re: Use the Net 2023 Match Day 4
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 by: Lléo - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 19:56 UTC

Jesper Lauridsen escreveu:
> ES post not showing on GG at the moment. Testing to see if GG is even working.

I can see this post. I'm posting from GG, so here's a test too I guess.

Best regards,

Lléo

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Subject: Re: Use the Net 2023 Match Day 4
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 by: Futbolmetrix - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 21:33 UTC

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 2:56:06 PM UTC-5, Lléo wrote:
> Jesper Lauridsen escreveu:
> > ES post not showing on GG at the moment. Testing to see if GG is even working.
> I can see this post. I'm posting from GG, so here's a test too I guess.

I used to use ES, but switched to GG a few years ago because it frequently "ate" posts (it also had something to do with a new computer and Outlook Express no longer being supported).

Anyway, I am able to see (on GG) both Jesper and Lleo's post

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Subject: Re: Use the Net 2023 Match Day 4
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 by: Futbolmetrix - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 21:48 UTC

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 6:44:27 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Lautaro likely not starting, put Nico Gonzalez back in, Dybala captain

As a wise man once said, when did tinkering ever help?

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 by: Blueshirt - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 21:49 UTC

Futbolmetrix wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 2:56:06 PM UTC-5, Lléo wrote:
> > Jesper Lauridsen escreveu:
> > > ES post not showing on GG at the moment. Testing to see if GG is
> > > even working.
> > I can see this post. I'm posting from GG, so here's a test too I
> > guess.
>
> I used to use ES, but switched to GG a few years ago because it
> frequently "ate" posts (it also had something to do with a new computer
> and Outlook Express no longer being supported).

FWIW. There is a [non-Microsoft] replacement newsreader for Outlook
Express users called OE Classic, which enables former Outlook Express
users to continue the OE experience on Windows 10 and Windows 11.

https://www.oeclassic.com/ar-outlook-express-windows-10

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 22:13 UTC

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 4:49:35 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
> https://www.oeclassic.com/ar-outlook-express-windows-10

Thanks. I might as well just reinstall Thunderbird.

Lots of UtN goals everywhere, we may have done even better in terms of efficiency than last week.

Standings after the Wednesday matches:

Bungs 6 (Foden, Saka, Kane 2(x2))
Siglo 6 (Morata 2(x2), Merino, Oyarzabal)
Vikings 6 (Haaland 2(x2), Hojlund 2)
Waffmills 4 (Openda (x2), Xavi Simons, L. De Jong)
Armata 3 (Immobile (x2), Politano)
Jogo 3 (Vinicius Jr. (x2), Rodrygo)
Micronos 2 (Griezmann 2)
Tugas 2 (Rafa Silva, B. Fernandes)
Flickers, Orphans, Waka, Wonderland: 0

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 by: The Doctor - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 02:20 UTC

In article <xn0o93pqz1r9ut4000@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 2:56:06 PM UTC-5, Lléo wrote:
>> > Jesper Lauridsen escreveu:
>> > > ES post not showing on GG at the moment. Testing to see if GG is
>> > > even working.
>> > I can see this post. I'm posting from GG, so here's a test too I
>> > guess.
>>
>> I used to use ES, but switched to GG a few years ago because it
>> frequently "ate" posts (it also had something to do with a new computer
>> and Outlook Express no longer being supported).
>
>
>FWIW. There is a [non-Microsoft] replacement newsreader for Outlook
>Express users called OE Classic, which enables former Outlook Express
>users to continue the OE experience on Windows 10 and Windows 11.
>
>https://www.oeclassic.com/ar-outlook-express-windows-10
>
>
>

Outhouse Excess? UGH!
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 by: Jesper Lauridsen - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 16:41 UTC

On 2023-11-07, Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
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> More tinkering. Raum for Tah.
>
> Flickers
> DF Raum, Goosens, Koch
> MF Gündoğan (done), Sane (C), Musiala, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Gross
> FW Adeyemi (done), Gnabry, Philipp

Goosens not starting. Put Tah back in.

Flickers
DF Raum (done), Koch, Tah
MF Gündoğan (done), Sane (C), Musiala, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Gross
FW Adeyemi (done), Gnabry, Philipp

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On 2023-11-07, Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 10:39:50 PM UTC+1, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 3:56:33 PM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>> > And Xavi Simons on the board. Now why did I not make him captain instead
>> > of Openda.
>> Nice anti-weaufxing, as Openda has just scored.
>>
>> Lots of captain goals, including braces by Haaland and Morata
>
> Two assists by Schlager in addition to the one by Sabitzer. It's as if they don't realise what this sport is really about.

Kane will set up Laimer a couple of times, and it'll all even out.

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 by: MH - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 19:54 UTC

On 2023-11-08 12:53, MH wrote:
> On 2023-11-08 10:23, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-11-07 14:37, MH wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-07 13:56, MH wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-07 12:32, MH wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-11-07 10:21, MH wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-11-06 09:17, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>>>>> Default starting lineups the ones that finished MD3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Siglo
>>>>>>> DF: Sergio Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
>>>>>>> MF: Rodri, Merino, Oyarzabala, Brais Mendez, Isco
>>>>>>> FW: Morata© , Ansu Fati, Yamal, Ferran Torres
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DF: Ramos, Carvajal, MArcos Alonso (Barca)
>>>>>> MF: Rodri, Gavi (Barca), Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
>>>>>> FW: F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno (Villareal), Fati, Borja
>>>>>> Iglesias (Betis)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of placeholders in there.
>>>>>
>>>>> DF Ramos, Carvajal, Marcos Alonso
>>>>> MF:  Merino, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
>>>>> FW:  F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno, Fati, Borja Iglesias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Some signs of life.  Captain Morata scores.
>>
>> My Real players all starting, so standing pat for now.
>> I have seen some of their games, team plays very well, midfield is
>> impressive, but they are nowhere near productive enough in terms of
>> goals.  Very attractive to watch. Now watch them crash to Benfica
>> through over-confidence
>
>
> Changes : Sergio Ramos out, Nacho in
>
> DF NACHO, Carvajal, Marcos Alonso
> MF:  Merino, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
> FW:  F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno, Fati, Borja Iglesias
>
>
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Waffles/Windmills
>>>>>>> DF: De Vrij, De Ligt, Dumfries
>>>>>>> MF: Vanaken, Stengs, Vermeeren, Veerman
>>>>>>> FW: Xavi Simons, Openda, Lukebakio. Doku, L. De Jong(c)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No changes yet
>>>>>
>>>>> DF:  Dumfries, Van Dijk, Geertruida (Feyenoord)
>>>>> MF:  Vanaken, Stengs, Gravenberch, Koopmeiners (ATALANTA)
>>>>> FW:  Xavi Simons, Openda (C), Lukebakio, L. De Jong, Bakayoko (PSV)
>>>>
>>>> And Xavi Simons on the board. Now why did I not make him captain
>>>> instead of Openda.
>>>
>>> Or not.
>>>
>>
>> No Dutch or Belgian players involved in the early games that I can
>> discern.  No changes here.
>
> Changes:  Trossard in, Lukebakio out, Dumfries out
>
> DF  Van Dijk, Geertruida, Theate (Rennes)
> MF    Trossard, Stengs, Gravenberch, Vanaken
> FW   Xavi, Openda (C), L. DeJong, Bakayoko, Bergwijn (Ajax)

Sorry, make that Lukaku instead of Bergwijn.

> DF Van Dijk, Geertruida, Theate (Rennes)
> MF Trossard, Stengs, Gravenberch, Vanaken
> FW Xavi, Openda (C), L. DeJong, Bakayoko, Lukaku (Roma)

>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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 by: MH - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 17:23 UTC

On 2023-11-07 14:37, MH wrote:
> On 2023-11-07 13:56, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-11-07 12:32, MH wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-07 10:21, MH wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-06 09:17, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>>> Default starting lineups the ones that finished MD3.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Siglo
>>>>> DF: Sergio Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
>>>>> MF: Rodri, Merino, Oyarzabala, Brais Mendez, Isco
>>>>> FW: Morata© , Ansu Fati, Yamal, Ferran Torres
>>>>
>>>> DF: Ramos, Carvajal, MArcos Alonso (Barca)
>>>> MF: Rodri, Gavi (Barca), Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
>>>> FW: F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno (Villareal), Fati, Borja Iglesias
>>>> (Betis)
>>>>
>>>> A lot of placeholders in there.
>>>
>>> DF Ramos, Carvajal, Marcos Alonso
>>> MF:  Merino, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
>>> FW:  F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno, Fati, Borja Iglesias
>>>
>>>
>> Some signs of life.  Captain Morata scores.

My Real players all starting, so standing pat for now.
I have seen some of their games, team plays very well, midfield is
impressive, but they are nowhere near productive enough in terms of
goals. Very attractive to watch. Now watch them crash to Benfica
through over-confidence
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Waffles/Windmills
>>>>> DF: De Vrij, De Ligt, Dumfries
>>>>> MF: Vanaken, Stengs, Vermeeren, Veerman
>>>>> FW: Xavi Simons, Openda, Lukebakio. Doku, L. De Jong(c)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No changes yet
>>>
>>> DF:  Dumfries, Van Dijk, Geertruida (Feyenoord)
>>> MF:  Vanaken, Stengs, Gravenberch, Koopmeiners (ATALANTA)
>>> FW:  Xavi Simons, Openda (C), Lukebakio, L. De Jong, Bakayoko (PSV)
>>
>> And Xavi Simons on the board. Now why did I not make him captain
>> instead of Openda.
>
> Or not.
>

No Dutch or Belgian players involved in the early games that I can
discern. No changes here.

>>
>>
>>
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>>
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 by: Jesper Lauridsen - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 19:19 UTC

Posts from eternal-september doesn't seem to go onto google groups at
the moment. Or maybe google groups isn't working at all.

On 2023-11-08, Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
> On 2023-11-07, Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
>>
>> More tinkering. Raum for Tah.
>>
>> Flickers
>> DF Raum, Goosens, Koch
>> MF Gündoğan (done), Sane (C), Musiala, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Gross
>> FW Adeyemi (done), Gnabry, Philipp
>
> Goosens not starting. Put Tah back in.

And out again, because Bisseck is starting.

> Flickers
> DF Raum (done), Koch, Tah
> MF Gündoğan (done), Sane (C), Musiala, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Gross
> FW Adeyemi (done), Gnabry, Philipp

Gnabry isn't starting, but keep him as a super sub.

Flickers
DF Raum (done), Bisseck, Koch
MF Gündoğan (done), Sane (C), Musiala, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Gross
FW Adeyemi (done), Gnabry, Philipp

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 by: Jesper Lauridsen - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 19:19 UTC

On 2023-11-06, Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@sorrystofanet.dk> wrote:
>
> Vikings
> DF Christensen, Jelert, Gunnlaugsson
> MF Frederiksberg, Eikrim, Pellegrino, King
> FW Højlund, Haaland ©, Skov Olsen, Ingvartsen, Schjelderup
>
> Proper lineups tomorrow.

Expected lineups, no changes.

Vikings
DF Christensen (done), Jelert, Gunnlaugsson
MF Frederiksberg, Eikrim, Pellegrino, King
FW Haaland (C/done), Højlund, Skov Olsen, Ingvartsen, Schjelderup

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 by: MH - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 19:53 UTC

On 2023-11-08 10:23, MH wrote:
> On 2023-11-07 14:37, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-11-07 13:56, MH wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-07 12:32, MH wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-07 10:21, MH wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-11-06 09:17, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>>>> Default starting lineups the ones that finished MD3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Siglo
>>>>>> DF: Sergio Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
>>>>>> MF: Rodri, Merino, Oyarzabala, Brais Mendez, Isco
>>>>>> FW: Morata© , Ansu Fati, Yamal, Ferran Torres
>>>>>
>>>>> DF: Ramos, Carvajal, MArcos Alonso (Barca)
>>>>> MF: Rodri, Gavi (Barca), Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
>>>>> FW: F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno (Villareal), Fati, Borja Iglesias
>>>>> (Betis)
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of placeholders in there.
>>>>
>>>> DF Ramos, Carvajal, Marcos Alonso
>>>> MF:  Merino, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
>>>> FW:  F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno, Fati, Borja Iglesias
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Some signs of life.  Captain Morata scores.
>
> My Real players all starting, so standing pat for now.
> I have seen some of their games, team plays very well, midfield is
> impressive, but they are nowhere near productive enough in terms of
> goals.  Very attractive to watch. Now watch them crash to Benfica
> through over-confidence

Changes : Sergio Ramos out, Nacho in

DF NACHO, Carvajal, Marcos Alonso
MF: Merino, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
FW: F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno, Fati, Borja Iglesias

>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Waffles/Windmills
>>>>>> DF: De Vrij, De Ligt, Dumfries
>>>>>> MF: Vanaken, Stengs, Vermeeren, Veerman
>>>>>> FW: Xavi Simons, Openda, Lukebakio. Doku, L. De Jong(c)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No changes yet
>>>>
>>>> DF:  Dumfries, Van Dijk, Geertruida (Feyenoord)
>>>> MF:  Vanaken, Stengs, Gravenberch, Koopmeiners (ATALANTA)
>>>> FW:  Xavi Simons, Openda (C), Lukebakio, L. De Jong, Bakayoko (PSV)
>>>
>>> And Xavi Simons on the board. Now why did I not make him captain
>>> instead of Openda.
>>
>> Or not.
>>
>
> No Dutch or Belgian players involved in the early games that I can
> discern.  No changes here.

Changes: Trossard in, Lukebakio out, Dumfries out

DF Van Dijk, Geertruida, Theate (Rennes)
MF Trossard, Stengs, Gravenberch, Vanaken
FW Xavi, Openda (C), L. DeJong, Bakayoko, Bergwijn (Ajax)

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 by: MH - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 05:29 UTC

On 2023-11-08 15:13, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 4:49:35 PM UTC-5, Blueshirt wrote:
>
>> https://www.oeclassic.com/ar-outlook-express-windows-10
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> Thanks. I might as well just reinstall Thunderbird.
>
> Lots of UtN goals everywhere, we may have done even better in terms of efficiency than last week.
>
> Standings after the Wednesday matches:
>
> Bungs 6 (Foden, Saka, Kane 2(x2))
> Siglo 6 (Morata 2(x2), Merino, Oyarzabal)
> Vikings 6 (Haaland 2(x2), Hojlund 2)
> Waffmills 4 (Openda (x2), Xavi Simons, L. De Jong)

missed Trossard. Waffmills 5 (Openda X 2, Xavi, DeJong, Trossard)

> Armata 3 (Immobile (x2), Politano)
> Jogo 3 (Vinicius Jr. (x2), Rodrygo)
> Micronos 2 (Griezmann 2)
> Tugas 2 (Rafa Silva, B. Fernandes)
> Flickers, Orphans, Waka, Wonderland: 0
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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 08:54 UTC

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 12:29:34 AM UTC-5, MH wrote:
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> > Bungs 6 (Foden, Saka, Kane 2(x2))
> > Siglo 6 (Morata 2(x2), Merino, Oyarzabal)
> > Vikings 6 (Haaland 2(x2), Hojlund 2)
> > Waffmills 4 (Openda (x2), Xavi Simons, L. De Jong)

> missed Trossard. Waffmills 5 (Openda X 2, Xavi, DeJong, Trossard)

That's because your post with the lineup change showed up on GG about 5 hours ago. (sigh)
I think Trossard is the only missed goal, but I will implement all the other changes to the lineups that I can see now.

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 09:02 UTC

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 3:54:29 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 12:29:34 AM UTC-5, MH wrote:
> > >
> > > Bungs 6 (Foden, Saka, Kane 2(x2))
> > > Siglo 6 (Morata 2(x2), Merino, Oyarzabal)
> > > Vikings 6 (Haaland 2(x2), Hojlund 2)
> > > Waffmills 4 (Openda (x2), Xavi Simons, L. De Jong)
>
> > missed Trossard. Waffmills 5 (Openda X 2, Xavi, DeJong, Trossard)
> That's because your post with the lineup change showed up on GG about 5 hours ago. (sigh)
> I think Trossard is the only missed goal, but I will implement all the other changes to the lineups that I can see now.

Below are the lineups for MH and Jesper's teams. Please correct any mistakes.

Siglo
DF Nacho, Carvajal, Marcos Alonso
MF: Merino 1, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal 1
FW: F. Torres, Morata © 2(x2), Moreno, Fati, Borja Iglesias

Vikings
DF Christensen, Jelert, Gunnlaugsson
MF Frederiksberg, Eikrim, Pellegrino, King
FW Haaland © 2(x2), Højlund 2, Skov Olsen, Ingvartsen, Schjelderup

Waffles/Windmills
DF Van Dijk, Geertruida, Theate
MF Trossard 1, Stengs, Gravenberch, Vanaken
FW Xavi 1, Openda © 1(x2), L. DeJong 1, Bakayoko, Lukaku
Flickers
DF Raum, Bisseck, Koch
MF Gündoğan, Sane (C), Musiala, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Gross
FW Adeyemi, Gnabry, Philipp

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 11:19 UTC

On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 6:24:51 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:

> DF: Darmian, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri
> MF: Frattesi, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Cristante
> FW: Immobile (c), Politano, El Shaarawy, Raspadori

Belotti in for Shaarawy

DF: Darmian, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri
MF: Frattesi, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Cristante
FW: Immobile (c), Politano, Belotti, Raspadori

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 14:39 UTC

On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 5:15:46 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 11:17:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > Default starting lineups the ones that finished MD3.
> >
> >
> > Waka-Waka
> > DF: Tapsoba, Mbemba, Ogbu
> > MF: Kudus, Duncan, B. Traore, Bukari
> > FW: Boniface©, Aboubakar, , Orban, Lookman
>
> A few changes:
> DF: Tapsoba, Mbemba, Ogbu
> MF: Kudus, Bukari, Onyedika, Anguissa
> FW: Boniface©, Aboubakar, Orban, Lookman, Sima

Wakas have to step up. M'bala Nzola in for Orban, Boniface looks set to get a rest so we'll put the armband on Lookman. Boniface stays in for the moment. Also, Matip in for Mbemba, because tinkering.

DF: Tapsoba, Matip, Ogbu
MF: Kudus, Bukari, Onyedika, Anguissa
FW: Boniface, Aboubakar, Nzola , Lookman (c), Sima

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 17:32 UTC

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 9:39:26 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 5:15:46 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 11:17:13 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> > > Default starting lineups the ones that finished MD3.
> > >
> > >
> > > Waka-Waka
> > > DF: Tapsoba, Mbemba, Ogbu
> > > MF: Kudus, Duncan, B. Traore, Bukari
> > > FW: Boniface©, Aboubakar, , Orban, Lookman
> >
> > A few changes:
> > DF: Tapsoba, Mbemba, Ogbu
> > MF: Kudus, Bukari, Onyedika, Anguissa
> > FW: Boniface©, Aboubakar, Orban, Lookman, Sima
>
> Wakas have to step up. M'bala Nzola in for Orban, Boniface looks set to get a rest so we'll put the armband on Lookman. Boniface stays in for the moment. Also, Matip in for Mbemba, because tinkering.
>
> DF: Tapsoba, Matip, Ogbu
> MF: Kudus, Bukari, Onyedika, Anguissa
> FW: Boniface, Aboubakar, Nzola , Lookman (c), Sima

Tapsoba out, N'dicka in. Boniface is starting, so he gets the captain's armband back.

DF: N'Dicka, Matip, Ogbu
MF: Kudus, Bukari, Onyedika, Anguissa
FW: Boniface(c), Aboubakar, Nzola , Lookman, Sima

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On 2023-11-08 12:54, MH wrote:
> On 2023-11-08 12:53, MH wrote:
>> On 2023-11-08 10:23, MH wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-07 14:37, MH wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-07 13:56, MH wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-11-07 12:32, MH wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-11-07 10:21, MH wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2023-11-06 09:17, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>>>>>>>> Default starting lineups the ones that finished MD3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Siglo
>>>>>>>> DF: Sergio Ramos, Carvajal, Le Normand
>>>>>>>> MF: Rodri, Merino, Oyarzabala, Brais Mendez, Isco
>>>>>>>> FW: Morata© , Ansu Fati, Yamal, Ferran Torres
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DF: Ramos, Carvajal, MArcos Alonso (Barca)
>>>>>>> MF: Rodri, Gavi (Barca), Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
>>>>>>> FW: F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno (Villareal), Fati, Borja
>>>>>>> Iglesias (Betis)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot of placeholders in there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DF Ramos, Carvajal, Marcos Alonso
>>>>>> MF:  Merino, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
>>>>>> FW:  F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno, Fati, Borja Iglesias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Some signs of life.  Captain Morata scores.
>>>
>>> My Real players all starting, so standing pat for now.
>>> I have seen some of their games, team plays very well, midfield is
>>> impressive, but they are nowhere near productive enough in terms of
>>> goals.  Very attractive to watch. Now watch them crash to Benfica
>>> through over-confidence
>>
>>
>> Changes : Sergio Ramos out, Nacho in
>>
>> DF NACHO, Carvajal, Marcos Alonso
>> MF:  Merino, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal
>> FW:  F. Torres, Morata (C), Moreno, Fati, Borja Iglesias

Moreno nowhere to be seen. Put in Yeremy Pino (who is on the bench)
instead.

DF Nacho, Carvajal, M. Alonso
MF. Merino 1, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal 1
FW F. Torres, Morata C 2X2, Fati, Borja Iglesias
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Waffles/Windmills
>>>>>>>> DF: De Vrij, De Ligt, Dumfries
>>>>>>>> MF: Vanaken, Stengs, Vermeeren, Veerman
>>>>>>>> FW: Xavi Simons, Openda, Lukebakio. Doku, L. De Jong(c)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No changes yet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DF:  Dumfries, Van Dijk, Geertruida (Feyenoord)
>>>>>> MF:  Vanaken, Stengs, Gravenberch, Koopmeiners (ATALANTA)
>>>>>> FW:  Xavi Simons, Openda (C), Lukebakio, L. De Jong, Bakayoko (PSV)
>>>>>
>>>>> And Xavi Simons on the board. Now why did I not make him captain
>>>>> instead of Openda.
>>>>
>>>> Or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No Dutch or Belgian players involved in the early games that I can
>>> discern.  No changes here.
>>
>> Changes:  Trossard in, Lukebakio out, Dumfries out
>>
>> DF  Van Dijk, Geertruida, Theate (Rennes)
>> MF    Trossard, Stengs, Gravenberch, Vanaken
>> FW   Xavi, Openda (C), L. DeJong, Bakayoko, Bergwijn (Ajax)
>
>
> Sorry, make that Lukaku instead of Bergwijn.

>
> > DF  Van Dijk, Geertruida, Theate (Rennes)
> > MF    Trossard, Stengs, Gravenberch, Vanaken
> > FW   Xavi, Openda (C), L. DeJong, Bakayoko, Lukaku (Roma)

Van Dijk not starting Brandon Mechele (Bruges) in instead. Gravenberch
also not starting. Put in....Kenneth Taylor of Ajax

DF: Mechele, Geertruida, Theate
MF Trossard 1, Stengs, TAYLOR, Vanaken
FW Xavi 1, Openda C 1x2, Le DeJong 1, Bakayoko, Lukaku

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 by: Futbolmetrix - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 17:34 UTC

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:19:57 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 6:24:51 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>
> > DF: Darmian, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri
> > MF: Frattesi, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Cristante
> > FW: Immobile (c), Politano, El Shaarawy, Raspadori
> Belotti in for Shaarawy
> DF: Darmian, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri
> MF: Frattesi, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo, Cristante
> FW: Immobile (c), Politano, Belotti, Raspadori

El Shaarawy in for Cristante.

DF: Darmian, Di Lorenzo, Ranieri
MF: Frattesi, Zaccagni, Zaniolo, Grifo
FW: Immobile (c), Politano, Belotti, Raspadori, El Shaarawy

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 by: MH - Thu, 9 Nov 2023 17:35 UTC

On 2023-11-09 02:02, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 3:54:29 AM UTC-5, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 12:29:34 AM UTC-5, MH wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bungs 6 (Foden, Saka, Kane 2(x2))
>>>> Siglo 6 (Morata 2(x2), Merino, Oyarzabal)
>>>> Vikings 6 (Haaland 2(x2), Hojlund 2)
>>>> Waffmills 4 (Openda (x2), Xavi Simons, L. De Jong)
>>
>>> missed Trossard. Waffmills 5 (Openda X 2, Xavi, DeJong, Trossard)
>> That's because your post with the lineup change showed up on GG about 5 hours ago. (sigh)
>> I think Trossard is the only missed goal, but I will implement all the other changes to the lineups that I can see now.
>
> Below are the lineups for MH and Jesper's teams. Please correct any mistakes.
>
>
> Siglo
> DF Nacho, Carvajal, Marcos Alonso
> MF: Merino 1, Gavi, Brais Mendez, Oyarzabal 1
> FW: F. Torres, Morata © 2(x2), Moreno, Fati, Borja Iglesias
>
> Vikings
> DF Christensen, Jelert, Gunnlaugsson
> MF Frederiksberg, Eikrim, Pellegrino, King
> FW Haaland © 2(x2), Højlund 2, Skov Olsen, Ingvartsen, Schjelderup
>
> Waffles/Windmills
> DF Van Dijk, Geertruida, Theate
> MF Trossard 1, Stengs, Gravenberch, Vanaken
> FW Xavi 1, Openda © 1(x2), L. DeJong 1, Bakayoko, Lukaku
>
> Flickers
> DF Raum, Bisseck, Koch
> MF Gündoğan, Sane (C), Musiala, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Gross
> FW Adeyemi, Gnabry, Philipp
>

Those were perfectly accurate as of 15 minutes ago, but I did tinker and
have posted that (complete lineups)

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On 2023-11-09, Futbolmetrix <daniele.paserman@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Vikings
> DF Christensen, Jelert, Gunnlaugsson
> MF Frederiksberg, Eikrim, Pellegrino, King
> FW Haaland © 2(x2), Højlund 2, Skov Olsen, Ingvartsen, Schjelderup

Adjusting for lineups.

Vikings
DF Christensen (done), Jelert (done), Gunnlaugsson
MF Pellegrino, Breivik, Eikrim, Dahbo
FW Haaland (C/done), Højlund (done), Sørloth, Ingvartsen, Skov Olsen

> Flickers
> DF Raum, Bisseck, Koch
> MF Gündoğan, Sane (C), Musiala, Wirtz, Hoffmann, Gross
> FW Adeyemi, Gnabry, Philipp

Not many options to avoid the wooden spoon.

Flickers
DF Raum (done), Bisseck (done), Tah
MF Gündoğan (done), Sane (C/done), Musiala (so done), Götze, Wirtz, Andrich
FW Adeyemi (done), Gnabry (done), Höler

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