Fri
Hoffenheim - Bochum
Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1

Sat
Union - Gladbach
Still NME? 1-1

Frankfurt - Bayern
Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3

Wolfsburg - Freiburg
2-1

Werder - Augsburg
Augsburg can't lose. 1-1

Heidenheim - Darmstadt
2-1

Dortmund - Leipzig
The winners of the last 3 cups. 1-1

Sun
Stuttgart - Leverkusen
The winners of the next cup. 1-2

Köln - Mainz
The battle for Koblenz. 2-1

In article <ukt70l$1cndl$1@dont-email.me>,
Jesper Lauridsen <uselastnamedotfirstname@gmail.com> wrote:
>Fri
>Hoffenheim - Bochum
>Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1
>
>Sat
>Union - Gladbach
>Still NME? 1-1
>
>Frankfurt - Bayern
>Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3
>
>Wolfsburg - Freiburg
>2-1
>
>Werder - Augsburg
>Augsburg can't lose. 1-1
>
>Heidenheim - Darmstadt
>2-1
>
>Dortmund - Leipzig
>The winners of the last 3 cups. 1-1
>
>Sun
>Stuttgart - Leverkusen
>The winners of the next cup. 1-2
>
>K�ln - Mainz
>The battle for Koblenz. 2-1

All fair games 2 - 2 and 50 red cards fly!
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On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 8:39:05 PM UTC+1, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> Fri
> Hoffenheim - Bochum
> Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1

They should never have parted ways with Seb Hoeneß.
3-2

> Sat
> Union - Gladbach
> Still NME? 1-1

2-2

> Frankfurt - Bayern
> Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3

0-3

> Wolfsburg - Freiburg
> 2-1

1-2 and Kovač sacked

> Werder - Augsburg
> Augsburg can't lose. 1-1

They just might. 2-0

> Heidenheim - Darmstadt
> 2-1

1-1

> Dortmund - Leipzig
> The winners of the last 3 cups. 1-1

3-3

> Sun
> Stuttgart - Leverkusen
> The winners of the next cup. 1-2

2-2

> Köln - Mainz
> The battle for Koblenz. 2-1

Would make more sense on Rosenmontag

2-0

Ciao,
Werner

On 2023-12-07 12:39, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> Fri
> Hoffenheim - Bochum
> Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1

1-0
>
> Sat
> Union - Gladbach
> Still NME? 1-1

1-2
>
> Frankfurt - Bayern
> Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3

0-3
>
> Wolfsburg - Freiburg
> 2-1

1-1
>
> Werder - Augsburg
> Augsburg can't lose. 1-1

2-1

>
> Heidenheim - Darmstadt
> 2-1
>
0-0

> Dortmund - Leipzig
> The winners of the last 3 cups. 1-1

1-2
>
> Sun
> Stuttgart - Leverkusen
> The winners of the next cup. 1-2
>
1-3

> Köln - Mainz
> The battle for Koblenz. 2-1

1-0

On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 2:39:05 p.m. UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
I was wondering if they were going to get the 17 games played before the Xmas break, but no English weeks this month.

> Fri
> Hoffenheim - Bochum
> Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1
There was a time when the Hoff was the hottest team in football
3-2

>
> Sat
> Union - Gladbach
> Still NME? 1-1

The Union has refused to budge on the work to rule and will stay rooted to the bottom
1-2

>
> Frankfurt - Bayern
> Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3

So they must be due a win then?
2-1

>
> Wolfsburg - Freiburg
> 2-1
2-2 and absolutely no cards flying

>
> Werder - Augsburg
> Augsburg can't lose. 1-1
Augsburg are ahead of Werder, that cant be?

3-2

>
> Heidenheim - Darmstadt
> 2-1

This is like a mini game, between two mini teams from the mini division to which they will return
2-2 and a bunch of mini red cards fly

>
> Dortmund - Leipzig
> The winners of the last 3 cups. 1-1

BVB trying to rid itself of the Pretenders badge, Red Bull are the type of team that eat Pretenders and spit out ....uhmm ....whatever the opposite of Pretenders is?
But a proper Top Spiel
2-3

>
> Sun
> Stuttgart - Leverkusen
> The winners of the next cup. 1-2

Kind of interesting. Almost another Pretenders Derby and if I learned anything from the PRetenders Derby last week, it is that they all end up in draws
2-2 and a lot of pretend cards flying

>
> Köln - Mainz
> The battle for Koblenz. 2-1
A Relegation 6 pointer
2-2 and a lot of Christmas cards flying. Does Koln have the best Christmas Market?

On 12/7/2023 2:39 PM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> Fri
> Hoffenheim - Bochum
> Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1

It's been a while I haven't given you all a free 5 point head start...

>
> Sat
> Union - Gladbach
> Still NME? 1-1

1-3

> Frankfurt - Bayern
> Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3

1-3

> Wolfsburg - Freiburg
> 2-1

How the tables have turned in Burg land: 1-2

> Werder - Augsburg
> Augsburg can't lose. 1-1

Even Augsburg is good 1-2

> Heidenheim - Darmstadt
> 2-1

Come on, you Heidenheim!
2-1

> Dortmund - Leipzig

Algo gonna algo: 1-2

>
> Sun
> Stuttgart - Leverkusen
> The winners of the next cup. 1-2

Temperature here will be extremely high: 1-3

> Köln - Mainz
> The battle for Koblenz. 2-1

2-1

On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 10:59:19 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 9:32:12 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 2:39:05 p.m. UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> > I was wondering if they were going to get the 17 games played before the Xmas break, but no English weeks this month.
> > > Fri
> > > Hoffenheim - Bochum
> > > Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1
> > There was a time when the Hoff was the hottest team in football
> > 3-2
> > >
> > > Sat
> > > Union - Gladbach
> > > Still NME? 1-1
> > The Union has refused to budge on the work to rule and will stay rooted to the bottom
> > 1-2
> The Union have signed a new contract.
> 2-0

If only I had known the Union were no longer on strike!

> > >
> > > Frankfurt - Bayern
> > > Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3
> > So they must be due a win then?
> > 2-1
> VAR Robots dont like bayern
> 5-1

Time to get rid of the Nerd coach and bring in a proper coach, someone like Marie Louise Eta.

> >
> > >
> > > Wolfsburg - Freiburg
> > > 2-1
> > 2-2 and absolutely no cards flying

Sometimes the bike ride to the game actually helps.

> > >
> > > Werder - Augsburg
> > > Augsburg can't lose. 1-1
> > Augsburg are ahead of Werder, that cant be?
> >
> > 3-2

Proper!

> >
> > >
> > > Heidenheim - Darmstadt
> > > 2-1
> >
> > This is like a mini game, between two mini teams from the mini division to which they will return
> > 2-2 and a bunch of mini red cards fly
In the World of mini football, Heidenheim rulez

> > >
> > > Dortmund - Leipzig
> > > The winners of the last 3 cups. 1-1
> > BVB trying to rid itself of the Pretenders badge, Red Bull are the type of team that eat Pretenders and spit out ....uhmm ....whatever the opposite of Pretenders is?
> > But a proper Top Spiel
> > 2-3

With all the proper results today, Leipzig has to beat the New Pretenders.

> > >
> > > Sun
> > > Stuttgart - Leverkusen
> > > The winners of the next cup. 1-2
> > Kind of interesting. Almost another Pretenders Derby and if I learned anything from the PRetenders Derby last week, it is that they all end up in draws
> > 2-2 and a lot of pretend cards flying
> > >
> > > Köln - Mainz
> > > The battle for Koblenz. 2-1
> > A Relegation 6 pointer
> > 2-2 and a lot of Christmas cards flying. Does Koln have the best Christmas Market?

On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 11:31:45 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 10:59:19 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 9:32:12 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 2:39:05 p.m. UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> > > I was wondering if they were going to get the 17 games played before the Xmas break, but no English weeks this month.
> > > > Fri
> > > > Hoffenheim - Bochum
> > > > Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1
> > > There was a time when the Hoff was the hottest team in football
> > > 3-2
> > > >
> > > > Sat
> > > > Union - Gladbach
> > > > Still NME? 1-1
> > > The Union has refused to budge on the work to rule and will stay rooted to the bottom
> > > 1-2
> > The Union have signed a new contract.
> > 2-0
> If only I had known the Union were no longer on strike!
> > > >
> > > > Frankfurt - Bayern
> > > > Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3
> > > So they must be due a win then?
> > > 2-1
> > VAR Robots dont like bayern
> > 5-1
> Time to get rid of the Nerd coach and bring in a proper coach, someone like Marie Louise Eta.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Wolfsburg - Freiburg
> > > > 2-1
> > > 2-2 and absolutely no cards flying
> Sometimes the bike ride to the game actually helps.
> > > >
> > > > Werder - Augsburg
> > > > Augsburg can't lose. 1-1
> > > Augsburg are ahead of Werder, that cant be?
> > >
> > > 3-2
> Proper!
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Heidenheim - Darmstadt
> > > > 2-1
> > >
> > > This is like a mini game, between two mini teams from the mini division to which they will return
> > > 2-2 and a bunch of mini red cards fly
> In the World of mini football, Heidenheim rulez
> > > >
> > > > Dortmund - Leipzig
> > > > The winners of the last 3 cups. 1-1
> > > BVB trying to rid itself of the Pretenders badge, Red Bull are the type of team that eat Pretenders and spit out ....uhmm ....whatever the opposite of Pretenders is?
> > > But a proper Top Spiel
> > > 2-3
> With all the proper results today, Leipzig has to beat the New Pretenders..

And they did, but the New Pretenders fought well considering they were down to 10 men for most of the game, which brings up the biggest question in football:

Is it better to go down a man or a goal after 10 minutes?

> > > >
> > > > Sun
> > > > Stuttgart - Leverkusen
> > > > The winners of the next cup. 1-2
> > > Kind of interesting. Almost another Pretenders Derby and if I learned anything from the PRetenders Derby last week, it is that they all end up in draws
> > > 2-2 and a lot of pretend cards flying
> > > >
> > > > Köln - Mainz
> > > > The battle for Koblenz. 2-1
> > > A Relegation 6 pointer
> > > 2-2 and a lot of Christmas cards flying. Does Koln have the best Christmas Market?

Meanwhile in the 2nd div...

Maybe no one wants to be promoted?

On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 4:35:42 p.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 11:31:45 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 10:59:19 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 9:32:12 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 2:39:05 p.m. UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> > > > I was wondering if they were going to get the 17 games played before the Xmas break, but no English weeks this month.
> > > > > Fri
> > > > > Hoffenheim - Bochum
> > > > > Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1
> > > > There was a time when the Hoff was the hottest team in football
> > > > 3-2
> > > > >
> > > > > Sat
> > > > > Union - Gladbach
> > > > > Still NME? 1-1
> > > > The Union has refused to budge on the work to rule and will stay rooted to the bottom
> > > > 1-2
> > > The Union have signed a new contract.
> > > 2-0
> > If only I had known the Union were no longer on strike!
> > > > >
> > > > > Frankfurt - Bayern
> > > > > Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3
> > > > So they must be due a win then?
> > > > 2-1
> > > VAR Robots dont like bayern
> > > 5-1
> > Time to get rid of the Nerd coach and bring in a proper coach, someone like Marie Louise Eta.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Wolfsburg - Freiburg
> > > > > 2-1
> > > > 2-2 and absolutely no cards flying
> > Sometimes the bike ride to the game actually helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Werder - Augsburg
> > > > > Augsburg can't lose. 1-1
> > > > Augsburg are ahead of Werder, that cant be?
> > > >
> > > > 3-2
> > Proper!
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Heidenheim - Darmstadt
> > > > > 2-1
> > > >
> > > > This is like a mini game, between two mini teams from the mini division to which they will return
> > > > 2-2 and a bunch of mini red cards fly
> > In the World of mini football, Heidenheim rulez
> > > > >
> > > > > Dortmund - Leipzig
> > > > > The winners of the last 3 cups. 1-1
> > > > BVB trying to rid itself of the Pretenders badge, Red Bull are the type of team that eat Pretenders and spit out ....uhmm ....whatever the opposite of Pretenders is?
> > > > But a proper Top Spiel
> > > > 2-3
> > With all the proper results today, Leipzig has to beat the New Pretenders.
> And they did, but the New Pretenders fought well considering they were down to 10 men for most of the game, which brings up the biggest question in football:
>
> Is it better to go down a man or a goal after 10 minutes?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sun
> > > > > Stuttgart - Leverkusen
> > > > > The winners of the next cup. 1-2
> > > > Kind of interesting. Almost another Pretenders Derby and if I learned anything from the PRetenders Derby last week, it is that they all end up in draws
> > > > 2-2 and a lot of pretend cards flying
> > > > >
> > > > > Köln - Mainz
> > > > > The battle for Koblenz. 2-1
> > > > A Relegation 6 pointer
> > > > 2-2 and a lot of Christmas cards flying. Does Koln have the best Christmas Market?

On 2023-12-08, Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 12/7/2023 2:39 PM, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> Fri
>> Hoffenheim - Bochum
>> Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1
>
> It's been a while I haven't given you all a free 5 point head start...

It's mathematically impossible to get 5 points from a home win.

FT
Hoffenheim - Bochum 3-1
Union - Gladbach 3-1
Frankfurt - Bayern 5-1
Wolfsburg - Freiburg 0-1
Werder - Augsburg 2-0
Heidenheim - Darmstadt 3-2
Dortmund - Leipzig 2-3

Flick is available.

Binder 19
Werner 16
FM 14
MH 13
Jesper 10
Doc 3

Disaster.

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 8:18:36 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> Meanwhile in the 2nd div...
>
>
> Maybe no one wants to be promoted?

OK, maybe Lewis Holtby does.

> On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 4:35:42 p.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 11:31:45 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 10:59:19 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 9:32:12 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 2:39:05 p.m. UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> > > > > I was wondering if they were going to get the 17 games played before the Xmas break, but no English weeks this month.
> > > > > > Fri
> > > > > > Hoffenheim - Bochum
> > > > > > Hoff has to start winning at some point. 2-1
> > > > > There was a time when the Hoff was the hottest team in football
> > > > > 3-2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sat
> > > > > > Union - Gladbach
> > > > > > Still NME? 1-1
> > > > > The Union has refused to budge on the work to rule and will stay rooted to the bottom
> > > > > 1-2
> > > > The Union have signed a new contract.
> > > > 2-0
> > > If only I had known the Union were no longer on strike!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frankfurt - Bayern
> > > > > > Frankfurt has played (and lost) 3 games since Bayern last kicked a ball. 1-3
> > > > > So they must be due a win then?
> > > > > 2-1
> > > > VAR Robots dont like bayern
> > > > 5-1
> > > Time to get rid of the Nerd coach and bring in a proper coach, someone like Marie Louise Eta.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wolfsburg - Freiburg
> > > > > > 2-1
> > > > > 2-2 and absolutely no cards flying
> > > Sometimes the bike ride to the game actually helps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Werder - Augsburg
> > > > > > Augsburg can't lose. 1-1
> > > > > Augsburg are ahead of Werder, that cant be?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3-2
> > > Proper!
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Heidenheim - Darmstadt
> > > > > > 2-1
> > > > >
> > > > > This is like a mini game, between two mini teams from the mini division to which they will return
> > > > > 2-2 and a bunch of mini red cards fly
> > > In the World of mini football, Heidenheim rulez
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dortmund - Leipzig
> > > > > > The winners of the last 3 cups. 1-1
> > > > > BVB trying to rid itself of the Pretenders badge, Red Bull are the type of team that eat Pretenders and spit out ....uhmm ....whatever the opposite of Pretenders is?
> > > > > But a proper Top Spiel
> > > > > 2-3
> > > With all the proper results today, Leipzig has to beat the New Pretenders.
> > And they did, but the New Pretenders fought well considering they were down to 10 men for most of the game, which brings up the biggest question in football:
> >
> > Is it better to go down a man or a goal after 10 minutes?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sun
> > > > > > Stuttgart - Leverkusen
> > > > > > The winners of the next cup. 1-2
> > > > > Kind of interesting. Almost another Pretenders Derby and if I learned anything from the PRetenders Derby last week, it is that they all end up in draws
> > > > > 2-2 and a lot of pretend cards flying
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Köln - Mainz
> > > > > > The battle for Koblenz. 2-1
> > > > > A Relegation 6 pointer
> > > > > 2-2 and a lot of Christmas cards flying. Does Koln have the best Christmas Market?

On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 9:59:38 AM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
> On 2023-12-08, Futbolmetrix <futbol...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > It's been a while I haven't given you all a free 5 point head start...
> It's mathematically impossible to get 5 points from a home win.

Wait, what? You've been making the algorithm play with a hand tied behind its back!!!
This changes everything!
(Actually, it wouldn't hurt to have a reminder of how the scoring system works)

On 2023-12-10 09:17, Futbolmetrix wrote:
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 9:59:38 AM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>> On 2023-12-08, Futbolmetrix <futbol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> It's been a while I haven't given you all a free 5 point head start...
>> It's mathematically impossible to get 5 points from a home win.
>
> Wait, what? You've been making the algorithm play with a hand tied behind its back!!!
> This changes everything!
> (Actually, it wouldn't hurt to have a reminder of how the scoring system works)
>
3 points for correct result. 1 for correct goals for each team. 1 for
correct goal difference. 1 for predicting an away win.

So most points for a game (correct score in away win) is 7.
Correctly predicted draw is either 4 or 6 (depending on goals)
Correctly predicted home win is 3, 4 or 6
Correctly predicted away win is 4,5,or 7

Hoffenheim - Bochum 3-1 (15)
Union - Gladbach 3-1 (1)
Frankfurt - Bayern 5-1 (4)
Wolfsburg - Freiburg 0-1 (12)
Werder - Augsburg 2-0 (14)
Heidenheim - Darmstadt 3-2 (10)
Dortmund - Leipzig 2-3 (19)
Stuttgart - Leverkusen 1-1 (15)
Köln - Mainz 0-0 (10)

Real pretenders would have lost in Stuttgart.

Lowest scoring round of the season, so it's no suprise that

Binder 27
Werner 21
FM 15
MH 15
Jesper 11
Doc 11

Binder takes the stage.

Red Jersey
Jesper 335
Werner 319
MH 316
FM 306
Binder 272
Doc 178

Werner back in second place.

Stage wins
Jesper 4
Werner 4
FM 3
MH 2
Binder 2

On 2023-12-10, MH <MHnospam@ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> On 2023-12-10 09:17, Futbolmetrix wrote:
>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 9:59:38 AM UTC-5, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:
>>> On 2023-12-08, Futbolmetrix <futbol...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> It's been a while I haven't given you all a free 5 point head start...
>>> It's mathematically impossible to get 5 points from a home win.
>>
>> Wait, what? You've been making the algorithm play with a hand tied behind its back!!!
>> This changes everything!
>> (Actually, it wouldn't hurt to have a reminder of how the scoring system works)
>>
> 3 points for correct result. 1 for correct goals for each team. 1 for
> correct goal difference. 1 for predicting an away win.

MH is, as is his habit, right.

> So most points for a game (correct score in away win) is 7.
> Correctly predicted draw is either 4 or 6 (depending on goals)
> Correctly predicted home win is 3, 4 or 6
> Correctly predicted away win is 4,5,or 7

And you bad picks can be worth 0 or 1 point.