Rocksolid Light

Welcome to Rocksolid Light

mail  files  register  newsreader  groups  login

Message-ID:  

[Babe] Ruth made a big mistake when he gave up pitching. -- Tris Speaker, 1921


sport / rec.sport.soccer / Usenet Auschwitz

SubjectAuthor
* Usenet AuschwitzIon Saliu
`* Usenet AuschwitzBlueshirt
 `* Usenet AuschwitzIon Saliu
  `* Usenet AuschwitzBlueshirt
   +* Usenet AuschwitzThe Doctor
   |`* Usenet Auschwitz (OT)Blueshirt
   | `* Usenet Auschwitz (OT)The Doctor
   |  `- Usenet Auschwitz (OT)Ion Saliu
   `- Usenet AuschwitzIon Saliu

1
Usenet Auschwitz

<76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com>

  copy mid

https://news.novabbs.org/sport/article-flat.php?id=16754&group=rec.sport.soccer#16754

  copy link   Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:1d2b:b0:67f:d2c:9ae9 with SMTP id f11-20020a0562141d2b00b0067f0d2c9ae9mr15466qvd.13.1702636071686;
Fri, 15 Dec 2023 02:27:51 -0800 (PST)
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:2099:b0:3b9:ec87:db95 with SMTP id
s25-20020a056808209900b003b9ec87db95mr6795793oiw.10.1702636071485; Fri, 15
Dec 2023 02:27:51 -0800 (PST)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.misty.com!1.us.feeder.erje.net!3.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 02:27:51 -0800 (PST)
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=109.96.176.11; posting-account=wmU34QoAAACIfv57vlKJF-ZwadLcixmR
NNTP-Posting-Host: 109.96.176.11
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Usenet Auschwitz
From: ionsaliu@gmail.com (Ion Saliu)
Injection-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 10:27:51 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Received-Bytes: 1603
 by: Ion Saliu - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 10:27 UTC

“Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done today.”

Au revoir les enfants!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSPWn6IsnDM
https://moviesjoy.is/movie/au-revoir-les-enfants-11531

Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu
Founder of Philosophical Science of Posting
https://saliu.com/socioculturology.html

Re: Usenet Auschwitz

<nnd$6230954c$76e45f4a@eb2027d09ec68847>

  copy mid

https://news.novabbs.org/sport/article-flat.php?id=16763&group=rec.sport.soccer#16763

  copy link   Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: blueshirt@indigo.news (Blueshirt)
Subject: Re: Usenet Auschwitz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
References: <76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com>
Organization: XS News
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.21-f3fb89f (x86; Portable ISpell)
X-Face: "%,CLLw+;\t#ytLlWP0h4~#'EX.l{<Mu;Rc-MNd)+|Ru0:##TaO.;z~6BMqh|4=.6%UVy;E&'Dl}awS.?%!tWj1Fs\-J/)<S[AWij4]qs[K{6H}tC<pGg?D)_gplS[3'y2H2Rf?%CPNMbin}[z[xa96yi4mK{(?&nM%1D,M
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: <nnd$6230954c$76e45f4a@eb2027d09ec68847>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 13:31:49 +0100
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.mixmin.net!feed.abavia.com!abe005.abavia.com!abp001.abavia.com!reseller!not-for-mail
Lines: 31
Injection-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 13:31:49 +0100
Injection-Info: reseller; mail-complaints-to="abuse@abavia.com"
 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 12:31 UTC

Ion Saliu wrote:

>
> “Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support
> new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and
> new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and
> searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done
> today.”
>
> Au revoir les enfants!
> • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSPWn6IsnDM
> • https://moviesjoy.is/movie/au-revoir-les-enfants-11531

Usenet service... FREE

www.eternal-september.org

Newsreader... FREE

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/

If any Google Groups user needs help transitioning [NO, not that!] to
Usenet the way it was meant to be, I will do my best to solve any
issues that they have - as I'm sure others will too - and if I don't
know the answer to something, I will point them in the direction of
somebody/somewhere that does.

It's not the end of the world!

Re: Usenet Auschwitz

<a055a2fb-b99f-4ac6-8025-a365e3b190e3n@googlegroups.com>

  copy mid

https://news.novabbs.org/sport/article-flat.php?id=16791&group=rec.sport.soccer#16791

  copy link   Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:184:b0:425:e7ef:288c with SMTP id s4-20020a05622a018400b00425e7ef288cmr98867qtw.11.1702723507069;
Sat, 16 Dec 2023 02:45:07 -0800 (PST)
X-Received: by 2002:a25:7807:0:b0:dbc:cf5d:eb6a with SMTP id
t7-20020a257807000000b00dbccf5deb6amr373077ybc.9.1702723506703; Sat, 16 Dec
2023 02:45:06 -0800 (PST)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!news.niel.me!glou.org!news.glou.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.160.216.MISMATCH!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 02:45:06 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <nnd$6230954c$76e45f4a@eb2027d09ec68847>
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=109.96.176.11; posting-account=wmU34QoAAACIfv57vlKJF-ZwadLcixmR
NNTP-Posting-Host: 109.96.176.11
References: <76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com> <nnd$6230954c$76e45f4a@eb2027d09ec68847>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <a055a2fb-b99f-4ac6-8025-a365e3b190e3n@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Usenet Auschwitz
From: ionsaliu@gmail.com (Ion Saliu)
Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:45:07 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 by: Ion Saliu - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 10:45 UTC

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 2:32:05 PM UTC+2, Blueshirt wrote:
> Ion Saliu wrote:
>
> >
> > “Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support
> > new Usenet content. Posting and subscribing will be disallowed, and
> > new content from Usenet peers will not appear. Viewing and
> > searching of historical data will still be supported as it is done
> > today.”
> >
> > Au revoir les enfants!
> > • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSPWn6IsnDM
> > • https://moviesjoy.is/movie/au-revoir-les-enfants-11531
> Usenet service... FREE
>
> www.eternal-september.org
>
> Newsreader... FREE
>
> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/
>
>
> If any Google Groups user needs help transitioning [NO, not that!] to
> Usenet the way it was meant to be, I will do my best to solve any
> issues that they have - as I'm sure others will too - and if I don't
> know the answer to something, I will point them in the direction of
> somebody/somewhere that does.
>
> It's not the end of the world!

Bluitser, M’ritser, Axiomatics, Axiomatiques, Axiomatischen, Axiomáticos, Assiomatici, Axiomaticilor et al.:

We are not dead — Usenet is. Google decided to kill Usenet for all intents and purposes. The beauty of Google Groups (GG) was PERSISTENCE. The messages were ARCHIVED — i.e., saved for posterity.

From February 15, 2024, the messages will get lost in the ethereal Infinity.. They will be saved temporarily on each newsreader subscriber’s domain. That’s all! Only very few readers can see them, and then the messages are wiped out for good.

Many Usenet messages were also INDEXED by Google Groups. They became available in Internet searches on some queries of value to many Netizens. I know firsthand how valuable a referring source GG is (WAS!). My website has received (up to) hundreds of referrals a month from Google Groups!

Not to mention that the newsreader services are as cumbersome as the first years of personal computing.

It is far more convenient to create one’s own Google group — also FREE (e.g., https://groups.google.com/g/gamblingscience moderated as well). Of course, Facebook also offers free groups (https://www.facebook..com/LotteryPowerballMillionsSoftware). Both services ARCHIVE and INDEX messages/postings.

O tempora! O mores!

Ion “Axiomatic Parpaluck” Saliu
Founder of Philosophical Science of Posting
https://saliu.com/Ion_Saliu.html

Re: Usenet Auschwitz

<nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622>

  copy mid

https://news.novabbs.org/sport/article-flat.php?id=16795&group=rec.sport.soccer#16795

  copy link   Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: blueshirt@indigo.news (Blueshirt)
Subject: Re: Usenet Auschwitz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
References: <76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com> <nnd$6230954c$76e45f4a@eb2027d09ec68847> <a055a2fb-b99f-4ac6-8025-a365e3b190e3n@googlegroups.com>
Organization: XS News
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.21-f3fb89f (x86; Portable ISpell)
X-Face: "%,CLLw+;\t#ytLlWP0h4~#'EX.l{<Mu;Rc-MNd)+|Ru0:##TaO.;z~6BMqh|4=.6%UVy;E&'Dl}awS.?%!tWj1Fs\-J/)<S[AWij4]qs[K{6H}tC<pGg?D)_gplS[3'y2H2Rf?%CPNMbin}[z[xa96yi4mK{(?&nM%1D,M
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: <nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:23:35 +0100
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.network!news.neodome.net!news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!peer02.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01.ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed.abavia.com!abe005.abavia.com!abp003.abavia.com!reseller!not-for-mail
Lines: 48
Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:23:35 +0100
Injection-Info: reseller; mail-complaints-to="abuse@abavia.com"
X-Received-Bytes: 2870
 by: Blueshirt - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 15:23 UTC

Ion Saliu wrote:
>
> We are not dead — Usenet is. Google decided to kill Usenet for all
> intents and purposes.

Google Groups was not Usenet. It was Google's portal to Usenet. But
Usenet existed outside of Google. So Google can not kill something
that they don't control. Google Groups will still exist just for
Google's groups. Usenet will still exist for people to talk about
soccer, computers, cars (etc.)... and download music, films and porn!
Trust me, Usenet is going nowhere.

> The beauty of Google Groups (GG) was
> PERSISTENCE. The messages were ARCHIVED — i.e., saved for posterity.

And? There are other archives. Maybe not as comprehensive but I
suspect once the Google link is broken there will be even more people
within the Usenet community trying to create an archive comparable in
time.

> From February 15, 2024, the messages will get lost in the ethereal
> Infinity. They will be saved temporarily on each newsreader
> subscriber’s domain. That’s all! Only very few readers can see
> them, and then the messages are wiped out for good.

Or people can use blueyonder or Narkive etc...

I posted this link yesterday which is for our group here.

https://rec.sport.soccer.narkive.com/

> Many Usenet messages were also INDEXED by Google Groups. They
> became available in Internet searches on some queries of value to
> many Netizens. I know firsthand how valuable a referring source GG
> is (WAS!). My website has received (up to) hundreds of referrals a
> month from Google Groups!

You'll have to find a new way to reach other people now, a slight
inconvenience... but hardly the end of the world.

> Not to mention that the newsreader services are as cumbersome as
> the first years of personal computing.

If people can't use a newsreader they shouldn't own a computer.

Re: Usenet Auschwitz

<ulkjo9$65d$13@gallifrey.nk.ca>

  copy mid

https://news.novabbs.org/sport/article-flat.php?id=16798&group=rec.sport.soccer#16798

  copy link   Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!.POSTED.doctor.nl2k.ab.ca!not-for-mail
From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Usenet Auschwitz
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:37:29 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: NetKnow News
Message-ID: <ulkjo9$65d$13@gallifrey.nk.ca>
References: <76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com> <nnd$6230954c$76e45f4a@eb2027d09ec68847> <a055a2fb-b99f-4ac6-8025-a365e3b190e3n@googlegroups.com> <nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622>
Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:37:29 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: gallifrey.nk.ca; posting-host="doctor.nl2k.ab.ca:204.209.81.1";
logging-data="6317"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@gallifrey.nk.ca"
X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)
Originator: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:37 UTC

In article <nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>Ion Saliu wrote:
>>
>> We are not dead — Usenet is. Google decided to kill Usenet for all
>> intents and purposes.

Ion must be Tim Bruening in disguise!
>
>Google Groups was not Usenet. It was Google's portal to Usenet. But
>Usenet existed outside of Google. So Google can not kill something
>that they don't control. Google Groups will still exist just for
>Google's groups. Usenet will still exist for people to talk about
>soccer, computers, cars (etc.)... and download music, films and porn!
>Trust me, Usenet is going nowhere.
>

Spot on correct!

>> The beauty of Google Groups (GG) was
>> PERSISTENCE. The messages were ARCHIVED — i.e., saved for posterity.
>
>And? There are other archives. Maybe not as comprehensive but I
>suspect once the Google link is broken there will be even more people
>within the Usenet community trying to create an archive comparable in
>time.

GG abused Usenet!

>
>> From February 15, 2024, the messages will get lost in the ethereal
>> Infinity. They will be saved temporarily on each newsreader
>> subscriber’s domain. That’s all! Only very few readers can see
>> them, and then the messages are wiped out for good.
>
>Or people can use blueyonder or Narkive etc...
>
>I posted this link yesterday which is for our group here.
>
>https://rec.sport.soccer.narkive.com/
>

Thank for for the facts!

>> Many Usenet messages were also INDEXED by Google Groups. They
>> became available in Internet searches on some queries of value to
>> many Netizens. I know firsthand how valuable a referring source GG
>> is (WAS!). My website has received (up to) hundreds of referrals a
>> month from Google Groups!
>
>You'll have to find a new way to reach other people now, a slight
>inconvenience... but hardly the end of the world.
>

Ion must be as stupid as Tim Bruening!

>> Not to mention that the newsreader services are as cumbersome as
>> the first years of personal computing.
>
>If people can't use a newsreader they shouldn't own a computer.
>
>
>

Hear! Hear!!
--
Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
Merry Christmas 2023 and Happy New year 2024 Beware https://mindspring.com

Re: Usenet Auschwitz (OT)

<ulkk56$2fqva$1@dont-email.me>

  copy mid

https://news.novabbs.org/sport/article-flat.php?id=16800&group=rec.sport.soccer#16800

  copy link   Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!newsfeed.endofthelinebbs.com!news.chmurka.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: blueshirt@indigo.news (Blueshirt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Usenet Auschwitz (OT)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:44:22 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Indigo News
Lines: 25
Message-ID: <ulkk56$2fqva$1@dont-email.me>
References: <76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com> <nnd$6230954c$76e45f4a@eb2027d09ec68847> <a055a2fb-b99f-4ac6-8025-a365e3b190e3n@googlegroups.com> <nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622> <ulkjo9$65d$13@gallifrey.nk.ca>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:44:22 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="56123277003f517bad65ee9148e3d6bf";
logging-data="2616298"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19uiKCX3DBSJb2gnsCoS6xZ"
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.21-f3fb89f (x86; Portable ISpell)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:W8tn+wea9S0+4OmHavj70Pqc2E8=
X-Face: "%,CLLw+;\t#ytLlWP0h4~#'EX.l{<Mu;Rc-MNd)+|Ru0:##TaO.;z~6BMqh|4=.6%UVy;E&'Dl}awS.?%!tWj1Fs\-J/)<S[AWij4]qs[K{6H}tC<pGg?D)_gplS[3'y2H2Rf?%CPNMbin}[z[xa96yi4mK{(?&nM%1D,M
 by: Blueshirt - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:44 UTC

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Ion Saliu wrote:
>
> >> Many Usenet messages were also INDEXED by Google Groups. They
> >> became available in Internet searches on some queries of value to
> >> many Netizens. I know firsthand how valuable a referring source GG
> >> is (WAS!). My website has received (up to) hundreds of referrals a
> >> month from Google Groups!
> >
> > You'll have to find a new way to reach other people now, a slight
> > inconvenience... but hardly the end of the world.
>
> Ion must be as stupid as Tim Bruening!

Dave, Ion has a different opinion to you, that doesn't make him stupid.

I'd like to think that some of the former Google posters will still post
to Usenet once they get over the shock of Google dropping Usenet from it's
Google Groups service, and I have posted many links to help people if they
want to make that choice.

Usenet and RSS will survive...

Re: Usenet Auschwitz (OT)

<ulkk8n$f1i$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>

  copy mid

https://news.novabbs.org/sport/article-flat.php?id=16801&group=rec.sport.soccer#16801

  copy link   Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!.POSTED.doctor.nl2k.ab.ca!not-for-mail
From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Usenet Auschwitz (OT)
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:46:15 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: NetKnow News
Message-ID: <ulkk8n$f1i$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>
References: <76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com> <nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622> <ulkjo9$65d$13@gallifrey.nk.ca> <ulkk56$2fqva$1@dont-email.me>
Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:46:15 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: gallifrey.nk.ca; posting-host="doctor.nl2k.ab.ca:204.209.81.1";
logging-data="15410"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@gallifrey.nk.ca"
X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010)
Originator: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
 by: The Doctor - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 16:46 UTC

In article <ulkk56$2fqva$1@dont-email.me>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>> In article <nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > Ion Saliu wrote:
>>
>> >> Many Usenet messages were also INDEXED by Google Groups. They
>> >> became available in Internet searches on some queries of value to
>> >> many Netizens. I know firsthand how valuable a referring source GG
>> >> is (WAS!). My website has received (up to) hundreds of referrals a
>> >> month from Google Groups!
>> >
>> > You'll have to find a new way to reach other people now, a slight
>> > inconvenience... but hardly the end of the world.
>>
>> Ion must be as stupid as Tim Bruening!
>
>Dave, Ion has a different opinion to you, that doesn't make him stupid.
>
>I'd like to think that some of the former Google posters will still post
>to Usenet once they get over the shock of Google dropping Usenet from it's
>Google Groups service, and I have posted many links to help people if they
>want to make that choice.
>
>Usenet and RSS will survive...

You an I agree. BTW Ion is in meltdown mode.

I wonder if Tim melted down already.
--
Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca Ici doctor@nk.ca
Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
Merry Christmas 2023 and Happy New year 2024 Beware https://mindspring.com

Re: Usenet Auschwitz

<f2e0602d-ddb8-4bcc-9aab-c64a08d23ab7n@googlegroups.com>

  copy mid

https://news.novabbs.org/sport/article-flat.php?id=16807&group=rec.sport.soccer#16807

  copy link   Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
X-Received: by 2002:ae9:c018:0:b0:77f:aec7:a943 with SMTP id u24-20020ae9c018000000b0077faec7a943mr45189qkk.13.1702765156785;
Sat, 16 Dec 2023 14:19:16 -0800 (PST)
X-Received: by 2002:a81:7802:0:b0:5d4:1bd1:b058 with SMTP id
t2-20020a817802000000b005d41bd1b058mr776891ywc.0.1702765156477; Sat, 16 Dec
2023 14:19:16 -0800 (PST)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 14:19:16 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622>
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=109.96.176.11; posting-account=wmU34QoAAACIfv57vlKJF-ZwadLcixmR
NNTP-Posting-Host: 109.96.176.11
References: <76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com>
<nnd$6230954c$76e45f4a@eb2027d09ec68847> <a055a2fb-b99f-4ac6-8025-a365e3b190e3n@googlegroups.com>
<nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <f2e0602d-ddb8-4bcc-9aab-c64a08d23ab7n@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Usenet Auschwitz
From: ionsaliu@gmail.com (Ion Saliu)
Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 22:19:16 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lines: 72
 by: Ion Saliu - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 22:19 UTC

On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 5:23:41 PM UTC+2, Blueshirt wrote:
> Ion Saliu wrote:
> >
> > We are not dead — Usenet is. Google decided to kill Usenet for all
> > intents and purposes.
> Google Groups was not Usenet. It was Google's portal to Usenet. But
> Usenet existed outside of Google. So Google can not kill something
> that they don't control. Google Groups will still exist just for
> Google's groups. Usenet will still exist for people to talk about
> soccer, computers, cars (etc.)... and download music, films and porn!
> Trust me, Usenet is going nowhere.
> > The beauty of Google Groups (GG) was
> > PERSISTENCE. The messages were ARCHIVED — i.e., saved for posterity.
> And? There are other archives. Maybe not as comprehensive but I
> suspect once the Google link is broken there will be even more people
> within the Usenet community trying to create an archive comparable in
> time.
> > From February 15, 2024, the messages will get lost in the ethereal
> > Infinity. They will be saved temporarily on each newsreader
> > subscriber’s domain. That’s all! Only very few readers can see
> > them, and then the messages are wiped out for good.
> Or people can use blueyonder or Narkive etc...
>
> I posted this link yesterday which is for our group here.
>
> https://rec.sport.soccer.narkive.com/
> > Many Usenet messages were also INDEXED by Google Groups. They
> > became available in Internet searches on some queries of value to
> > many Netizens. I know firsthand how valuable a referring source GG
> > is (WAS!). My website has received (up to) hundreds of referrals a
> > month from Google Groups!
> You'll have to find a new way to reach other people now, a slight
> inconvenience... but hardly the end of the world.
> > Not to mention that the newsreader services are as cumbersome as
> > the first years of personal computing.
> If people can't use a newsreader they shouldn't own a computer.

> My website has received (up to) hundreds of referrals a month from Google Groups!

You'll have to find a new way to reach other people now, a slight inconvenience... but hardly the end of the world.

Bluitser:

That was the PROVERBIAL DROP IN THE BUCKET. For Google search refers some 5000 – 10000 clicks a month to that website of mine. Here, I only wanted to reward NOSTALGIA, however –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPStKitYWDs
• Tarkovsky: Nostalgia

> Not to mention that the newsreader services are as cumbersome as the first years of personal computing.
> If people can't use a newsreader, they shouldn't own a computer.

Bluitser, that’s what them WordPerfect & Lotus 123 & dBaseIII+ said… They are dead now, for all intents and purposes! Mnezău să fie cu ei!

“Am primit un telefon
De la un zis galanton
Apoi, m-a înjurat mai rău
Că joc zaruri cu Mnezău.”

“I received a phone call
From one who claimed was tall.
Then, he cursed me even worse
For my gambling on the horse.”

Re: Usenet Auschwitz (OT)

<e7ca5cc1-d80b-4de1-a101-1fa3284cf563n@googlegroups.com>

  copy mid

https://news.novabbs.org/sport/article-flat.php?id=16808&group=rec.sport.soccer#16808

  copy link   Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:252d:b0:67f:1bd3:ccf8 with SMTP id gg13-20020a056214252d00b0067f1bd3ccf8mr313580qvb.0.1702765873745;
Sat, 16 Dec 2023 14:31:13 -0800 (PST)
X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:83:b0:5d7:29d7:8a35 with SMTP id
be3-20020a05690c008300b005d729d78a35mr1059619ywb.5.1702765873316; Sat, 16 Dec
2023 14:31:13 -0800 (PST)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!1.us.feeder.erje.net!3.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 14:31:13 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <ulkk8n$f1i$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=109.96.176.11; posting-account=wmU34QoAAACIfv57vlKJF-ZwadLcixmR
NNTP-Posting-Host: 109.96.176.11
References: <76265bf2-3c1d-40de-85cc-4dc006a1c882n@googlegroups.com>
<nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622> <ulkjo9$65d$13@gallifrey.nk.ca>
<ulkk56$2fqva$1@dont-email.me> <ulkk8n$f1i$2@gallifrey.nk.ca>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <e7ca5cc1-d80b-4de1-a101-1fa3284cf563n@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Usenet Auschwitz (OT)
From: ionsaliu@gmail.com (Ion Saliu)
Injection-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 22:31:13 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Received-Bytes: 3702
 by: Ion Saliu - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 22:31 UTC

On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 6:46:18 PM UTC+2, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <ulkk56$2fqva$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> >The Doctor wrote:
> >
> >> In article <nnd$3c61e601$54942d95@f85336b4e71a5622>,
> >> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
> >> > Ion Saliu wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Many Usenet messages were also INDEXED by Google Groups. They
> >> >> became available in Internet searches on some queries of value to
> >> >> many Netizens. I know firsthand how valuable a referring source GG
> >> >> is (WAS!). My website has received (up to) hundreds of referrals a
> >> >> month from Google Groups!
> >> >
> >> > You'll have to find a new way to reach other people now, a slight
> >> > inconvenience... but hardly the end of the world.
> >>
> >> Ion must be as stupid as Tim Bruening!
> >
> >Dave, Ion has a different opinion to you, that doesn't make him stupid.
> >
> >I'd like to think that some of the former Google posters will still post
> >to Usenet once they get over the shock of Google dropping Usenet from it's
> >Google Groups service, and I have posted many links to help people if they
> >want to make that choice.
> >
> >Usenet and RSS will survive...
> You an I agree. BTW Ion is in meltdown mode.
>
> I wonder if Tim melted down already.
> --
> Member - Liberal International This is doc...@nk.ca Ici doc...@nk.ca
> Yahweh, King & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising!
> Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism ; unsubscribe from Google Groups to be seen
> Merry Christmas 2023 and Happy New year 2024 Beware https://mindspring.com

“Doktor: You an (!!!) I agree. BTW Ion is in meltdown mode.
I wonder if Tim melted down already.”

Now, you see how NEWSREADERS CAN SICKEN people badly. The Patient-Makebelieve-Doktor has always claimed he BANNED Google Groups (GG) from their newsreaders. They never see GG in their newsreader — YET, they’re never able to reply to GG messages! Do you get it? NOT?? Well, then, you must be mighty SICK too!

At least, GG imposed the reCAPTCHA challenge on posting via GG. The SPAMBOTS can’t do that. The only way the SPAMBOTS can work is via the newsreaders — PERIOD.

1
server_pubkey.txt

rocksolid light 0.9.8
clearnet tor