UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?

It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/champions-league-draw-to-be-made-by-computer-due-to-complex-new-format

Blueshirt wrote:

> UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?

> It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!

I'm going to reserve judgment on this one. Let's see how it works out. It's not as if the first stage of the CL in the current format is this unforgettable spectacle.

In article <xn0oj8wj4xluqh000@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
>
>It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
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>https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
>
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/champions-league-draw-to-be-made-by-computer-due-to-complex-new-format
>
>
>
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Super League? No thank you!
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In article <36be1f2e259d93630229a1f43462c47f@www.novabbs.com>,
Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Blueshirt wrote:
>
>> UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
>
>> It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
>
>I'm going to reserve judgment on this one. Let's see how it works out.
>It's not as if the first stage of the CL in the current format is this
>unforgettable spectacle.

I like UEfA comps as is.
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Futbolmetrix wrote:

> Blueshirt wrote:
>
> > UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
>
> > It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
>
> I'm going to reserve judgment on this one. Let's see how it
> works out. It's not as if the first stage of the CL in the
> current format is this unforgettable spectacle.

That should be the bonus of the revamp. You can/will have two
'big' teams meet early on. Which should - in theory - make the
Champions League more watchable from GW1... but because of the
format, the 'big' clubs should still progress to the next phase.

The computer match-ups will probably give the conspiracy
theorists something to talk about too...

The Doctor wrote:

> In article <xn0oj8wj4xluqh000@reader.xsnews.nl>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
> >
> > It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
> >
> >
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
> >
>
> Super League? No thank you!

Fortunately, most big European clubs also say "no thanks" to
that! But this is UEFA's version... so we'll see how the new
format works out in a few months.

On 12/03/2024 18:15, Blueshirt wrote:
> UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
>
> It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
>
> https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/champions-league-draw-to-be-made-by-computer-due-to-complex-new-format

I like this. Being a chess player, I'm used to the Swiss system, and
it tends to generate meaningful matchups in all rounds.

Tchau!
Jesus Petry

On 13/03/2024 13:12, Jesus Petry wrote:
> On 12/03/2024 18:15, Blueshirt wrote:
>> UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
>>
>> It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
>>
>> https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
>>
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/champions-league-draw-to-be-made-by-computer-due-to-complex-new-format
>
>  I like this. Being a chess player, I'm used to the Swiss system, and
> it tends to generate meaningful matchups in all rounds.

Hmmm... except that I've checked it closely and it won't be exactly a
Swiss system...
Well, let's give it a chance.

 Tchau!
 Jesus Petry

Jesus Petry wrote:

> On 13/03/2024 13:12, Jesus Petry wrote:
> > On 12/03/2024 18:15, Blueshirt wrote:
> > > UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
> > >
> > > It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
> > >
> > >
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
> > >
> > >
> > >
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/champions-league-draw-to-be-made-by-computer-due-to-complex-new-format
> >
> >  I like this. Being a chess player, I'm used to the Swiss
> > system, and it tends to generate meaningful matchups in all
> > rounds.
>
> Hmmm... except that I've checked it closely and it won't be
> exactly a Swiss system... Well, let's give it a chance.

No, not a Swiss-system tournament, it's a little bit more
complex than that... nobody plays everybody in the 32 team
league, just eight different 'selected' opponents.

But yes, we'll have to see how it goes...

In article <ussja7$11d23$1@dont-email.me>,
Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 12/03/2024 18:15, Blueshirt wrote:
>> UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
>>
>> It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
>>
>>
>https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
>>
>>
>>
>https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/champions-league-draw-to-be-made-by-computer-due-to-complex-new-format
>
> I like this. Being a chess player, I'm used to the Swiss system, and
>it tends to generate meaningful matchups in all rounds.
>
> Tchau!
> Jesus Petry
>

LOL! Swiss!
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Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 13/03/2024 13:12, Jesus Petry wrote:
>> On 12/03/2024 18:15, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
>>>
>>> It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
>>>
>>> https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/champions-league-draw-to-be-made-by-computer-due-to-complex-new-format
>>
>>  I like this. Being a chess player, I'm used to the Swiss system, and
>> it tends to generate meaningful matchups in all rounds.
>
> Hmmm... except that I've checked it closely and it won't be exactly a
> Swiss system...

I believe an actual Swiss system wouldn‘t have been feasible since the
logistics surrounding top European football need a bit more time to know
your next opponent.

> Well, let's give it a chance.

Yeah, I’m curious how it will shake out.

Ciao,
Werner

>
>  Tchau!
>  Jesus Petry
>
>
>

Werner Pichler wrote:

> Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, let's give it a chance.
>
> Yeah, I’m curious how it will shake out.

Blueshirt predicts under the new format the UEFA Champions
League Quarter Finals next season will contain, Real Madrid /
PSG / Man City / Bayern Munich / Barcelona / Inter-Milan ... + 2
!

On 2024-03-13, Jesus Petry <jesus.petry@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 13/03/2024 13:12, Jesus Petry wrote:
>> On 12/03/2024 18:15, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> UEFA's answer to the European "Super League"?
>>>
>>> It's probably easier to post a link than explain it!
>>>
>>> https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/12/champions-league-draw-to-be-made-by-computer-due-to-complex-new-format
>>
>>  I like this. Being a chess player, I'm used to the Swiss system, and
>> it tends to generate meaningful matchups in all rounds.
>
> Hmmm... except that I've checked it closely and it won't be exactly a
> Swiss system...
> Well, let's give it a chance.

Not that complicated really. All 36 teams in the same league, with top
8 going directly to the round of 16. Teams 9-24 to playoff for the
remaining 8 spots.

Teams are seeded in 4 pots of 9. Every team plays 2 teams from each
pot - one at home and one away. Teams will thus play very different
schedules, which can be unfair. We'll see.

With this being seeded no longer makes a difference, so we can hope
that seedings will be more scientific, and less political. A good
seeding system will be important for fair scheduling.

As for the draw being very complicated, is that really so? I would do
something like this:
- Draw pot 1 into 3 groups; 1A, 1B, 1C
- Each 1A team draws a 1B team for their home match, and a 1C team
for their away match
- 1B draws 1C for their home match
- Do the same for the 3 other pots
- Pair 1A with 2A (H) and 2B (A), 3B (H) and 3C (A), 4C (H) and 4A (A)
- Repeat the pattern until everyone is fixed up

This ignores the nationality rule, but with everyone in the same
league, why not drop it? Anyway, something might be done by putting
say all the EPL teams in the same group (just a thought, I haven't
tried to work it out).

Other than that, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work.