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by: anders t - Tue, 9 Jan 2024 20:56 UTC

I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)

I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).

Google is not my friend here.

Are you?

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by: Werner Pichler - Wed, 10 Jan 2024 01:33 UTC

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:56:15 PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:
> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>
> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).

Laurie Cunningham?

Ciao,
Werner

> Google is not my friend here.
>
> Are you?
>
>
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by: anders t - Wed, 10 Jan 2024 06:46 UTC

Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
>On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:56:15?PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:
>> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
>> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>>
>> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>
>Laurie Cunningham?

No, not him. I get this feeling that the firstname and lastname starts with
the same letter, but not sure.

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by: Al Kamista - Wed, 10 Jan 2024 14:02 UTC

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 3:56:15 PM UTC-5, anders t wrote:
> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>
> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>
> Google is not my friend here.
>
> Are you?

Tried ChatGPT instead:

Stan Bowles: The English forward played for French club AS Nancy from 1979 to 1981.
Tony Woodcock: Woodcock joined 1. FC Köln in the Bundesliga in 1979, becoming one of the first high-profile English players to play in Germany.
Kevin Keegan: As previously mentioned, Keegan played for Hamburger SV in the Bundesliga from 1977 to 1980.
Mick Channon: Channon, known for his time with Southampton, played for FC St. Etienne in France during the 1977-1978 season.
Laurie Cunningham, an English winger, played in La Liga during the late 1970s. He joined Real Madrid in 1979, becoming one of the first English players to play for the prestigious Spanish club.

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Tony Woodcock (Köln for a while) ?

>
> Google is not my friend here.
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> Are you?
>
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by: MH - Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:57 UTC

On 2024-01-09 23:46, anders t wrote:
> Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:56:15?PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:
>>> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
>>> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>>>
>>> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>>
>> Laurie Cunningham?
>
> No, not him. I get this feeling that the firstname and lastname starts with
> the same letter, but not sure.
>
>
Mark McGhee played for Hamburg, but he was Scottish, and that was not
until the mid 80s.

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by: Werner Pichler - Wed, 10 Jan 2024 19:21 UTC

On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 7:46:10 AM UTC+1, anders t wrote:
> Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
> >On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:56:15?PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:
> >> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
> >> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
> >>
> >> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much)..
> >
> >Laurie Cunningham?
>
> No, not him. I get this feeling that the firstname and lastname starts with
> the same letter, but not sure.

If he was capped while abroad, he ought to be in this list:

https://www.football365.com/news/ranking-every-foreign-based-england-player

The only one that fulfils your 70's criterion and hasn't been named yet is David Wilson.

Ciao,
Werner

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by: anders t - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 06:39 UTC

Quoting MH in rec.sport.soccer:
>On 2024-01-09 23:46, anders t wrote:
>> Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
>>> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:56:15?PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:
>>>> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
>>>> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>>>>
>>>> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>>>
>>> Laurie Cunningham?
>>
>> No, not him. I get this feeling that the firstname and lastname starts with
>> the same letter, but not sure.
>>
>>
>Mark McGhee played for Hamburg, but he was Scottish, and that was not
>until the mid 80s.

No, not him.
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by: anders t - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 06:42 UTC

Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
>On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 7:46:10?AM UTC+1, anders t wrote:
>> Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
>> >On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 9:56:15?PM UTC+1, anders t wrote:
>> >> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
>> >> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>> >>
>> >> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>> >
>> >Laurie Cunningham?
>>
>> No, not him. I get this feeling that the firstname and lastname starts with
>> the same letter, but not sure.
>
>If he was capped while abroad, he ought to be in this list:
>
>https://www.football365.com/news/ranking-every-foreign-based-england-player
>
>The only one that fulfils your 70's criterion and hasn't been named yet is David Wilson.

No, and none on the list.

This is so frustrating!

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by: Ion Saliu - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:20 UTC

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 10:56:15 PM UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>
> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>
> Google is not my friend here.
>
> Are you?
>
>
> --
> Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
> Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08

Winston Churchill in his 70s?

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by: Ion Saliu - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:26 UTC

On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:20:32 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 10:56:15 PM UTC+2, anders t wrote:
> > I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
> > in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
> >
> > I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
> >
> > Google is not my friend here.
> >
> > Are you?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Manchester United FC - CHAMPIONS
> > Latest: England '13 (20th) Europa '17, UEFA '08, World '08
> Winston Churchill in his 70s?

Churchill kicked arse like no one else. Stalin was better with the puck, Roosevelt with the bat. Hitler was best sprinting (blitzing).

I remember there was a match between the Germans and the Allies. Pelé played for the Allies.

RIP Franz "The Kaiser" Beckenbauer!

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by: Ion Saliu - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:36 UTC

On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:26:57 PM UTC+2, Ion Saliu wrote:

> > Winston Churchill in his 70s?
> Churchill kicked arse like no one else. Stalin was better with the puck, Roosevelt with the bat. Hitler was best sprinting (blitzing).
>
No wonder Winston was an Ultra of Arsenal!

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by: MH - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 02:37 UTC

On 2024-01-09 13:56, anders t wrote:
> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>
> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>
> Google is not my friend here.
>
> Are you?
>
>
Malcolm MacDonald. Played in Sweden at the end of his career, capped 14
times for England, prolific goalscorer for Newcastle ?

He does have the right timing (1979) and both names starting with the
same letter.

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by: anders t - Sun, 14 Jan 2024 07:18 UTC

Quoting MH in rec.sport.soccer:
>On 2024-01-09 13:56, anders t wrote:
>> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
>> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>>
>> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>>
>> Google is not my friend here.
>>
>> Are you?
>>
>>
>Malcolm MacDonald. Played in Sweden at the end of his career, capped 14
>times for England, prolific goalscorer for Newcastle ?
>
>He does have the right timing (1979) and both names starting with the
>same letter.

Sorry, but no.

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by: MH - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 03:59 UTC

On 2024-01-14 00:18, anders t wrote:
> Quoting MH in rec.sport.soccer:
>> On 2024-01-09 13:56, anders t wrote:
>>> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player playing
>>> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>>>
>>> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>>>
>>> Google is not my friend here.
>>>
>>> Are you?
>>>
>>>
>> Malcolm MacDonald. Played in Sweden at the end of his career, capped 14
>> times for England, prolific goalscorer for Newcastle ?
>>
>> He does have the right timing (1979) and both names starting with the
>> same letter.
>
> Sorry, but no.
>
>
Dave Watson ? Left Man City to play for Werder Bremen but did not stay
long. Then moved back to Southampton. Wiki says he only played 2 games
in the Bundesliga. Did play for England in Euro 1980.

Sounds like he could be your man ?

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by: MH - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 17:24 UTC

On 2024-03-13 21:59, MH wrote:
> On 2024-01-14 00:18, anders t wrote:
>> Quoting MH in rec.sport.soccer:
>>> On 2024-01-09 13:56, anders t wrote:
>>>> I seem to remember that there was a high-ish profile English player
>>>> playing
>>>> in Europe continental in the 70s. (I'm not talking about Kevin Keegan.)
>>>>
>>>> I think he was a bit controversial and didn't play in the NT (so much).
>>>>
>>>> Google is not my friend here.
>>>>
>>>> Are you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Malcolm MacDonald. Played in Sweden at the end of his career, capped 14
>>> times for England, prolific goalscorer for Newcastle ?
>>>
>>> He does have the right timing (1979) and both names starting with the
>>> same letter.
>>
>> Sorry, but no.
>>
>>
> Dave Watson ? Left Man City to play for Werder Bremen but did not stay
> long. Then moved back to Southampton. Wiki says he only played 2 games
> in the Bundesliga. Did play for England in Euro 1980.
>
> Sounds like he could be your man ?

Apparently the most capped England player never to play at a world cup.
This would still be true even if Kevin Keegan had not got on for a few
minutes as a sub vs. Spain in 1982.

Subject	Author
English Player In Europe In The 70s?	anders t
English Player In Europe In The 70s?	Werner Pichler
English Player In Europe In The 70s?	anders t
English Player In Europe In The 70s?	MH
Re: English Player In Europe In The 70s?	anders t
English Player In Europe In The 70s?	Werner Pichler
Re: English Player In Europe In The 70s?	anders t
English Player In Europe In The 70s?	Al Kamista
English Player In Europe In The 70s?	MH
Re: English Player In Europe In The 70s?	Ion Saliu
Re: English Player In Europe In The 70s?	Ion Saliu
Re: English Player In Europe In The 70s?	Ion Saliu
Re: English Player In Europe In The 70s?	MH
Re: English Player In Europe In The 70s?	anders t
Re: English Player In Europe In The 70s?	MH
Re: English Player In Europe In The 70s?	MH