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* It's over. Liberty is pooched.News
+- It's over. Liberty is pooched.Mark Jackson
+* It's over. Liberty is pooched.Martin Harran
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 by: News - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:21 UTC

'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
last year's record 440,000.

So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
peaked?'

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

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From: mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu (Mark Jackson)
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 by: Mark Jackson - Thu, 26 Oct 2023 15:41 UTC

On 10/26/2023 11:21 AM, News wrote:
> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the
> U.S. peaked?'

Got to be because Austin isn't attractove for gamblers. . ..

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 by: Martin Harran - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 12:29 UTC

On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

>'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>last year's record 440,000.
>
>So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>peaked?'
>
>https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
Attendance in 2021 was 400K
Attendance in 2022 was 440K
Attendance in 2023 was 432K

Hardly something for them to get worried about.

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 by: News - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 14:06 UTC

On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>
>> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>> last year's record 440,000.
>>
>> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>> peaked?'
>>
>> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
>
>
> There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
> Attendance in 2021 was 400K
> Attendance in 2022 was 440K
> Attendance in 2023 was 432K
>
> Hardly something for them to get worried about.

Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.

Numerous media outlets, including CNBC, are launching series following
on Netflix' 'Drive to Survive', trying to catch that falling knife.

Good luck. It only hurts when you reach the bottom.

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 by: Sir Tim - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 14:51 UTC

News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
> On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>
>>> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>>> last year's record 440,000.
>>>
>>> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>>> peaked?'
>>>
>>> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
>>
>>
>> There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
>> Attendance in 2021 was 400K
>> Attendance in 2022 was 440K
>> Attendance in 2023 was 432K
>>
>> Hardly something for them to get worried about.
>
>
> Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.
>
> Numerous media outlets, including CNBC, are launching series following
> on Netflix' 'Drive to Survive', trying to catch that falling knife.
>
> Good luck. It only hurts when you reach the bottom.
>

You’d simply love for them to fail wouldn’t you?

--
Sir Tim

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 by: News - Fri, 27 Oct 2023 15:25 UTC

On 10/27/2023 10:51 AM, Sir Tim wrote:
> News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>> On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>>>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>>>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>>>> last year's record 440,000.
>>>>
>>>> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>>>> peaked?'
>>>>
>>>> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
>>>
>>>
>>> There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
>>> Attendance in 2021 was 400K
>>> Attendance in 2022 was 440K
>>> Attendance in 2023 was 432K
>>>
>>> Hardly something for them to get worried about.
>>
>>
>> Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.
>>
>> Numerous media outlets, including CNBC, are launching series following
>> on Netflix' 'Drive to Survive', trying to catch that falling knife.
>>
>> Good luck. It only hurts when you reach the bottom.
>>
>
> You’d simply love for them to fail wouldn’t you?
>

Not a Liberty/FWONA investor, long or short. Couldn't care less about
investment bankers revealed as anything but masters of the universe, or
even the smartest guys in the room, despite it being their comeuppance.

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last week the magazine cable tv show gp confidential said that apple tv was interested in the tv rights - with liberty leasing them out or something.

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 by: Martin Harran - Sat, 28 Oct 2023 10:17 UTC

On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:06:12 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

>On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>
>>> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>>> last year's record 440,000.
>>>
>>> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>>> peaked?'
>>>
>>> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
>>
>>
>> There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
>> Attendance in 2021 was 400K
>> Attendance in 2022 was 440K
>> Attendance in 2023 was 432K
>>
>> Hardly something for them to get worried about.
>
>
>Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.

Your post to which I replied focused on attendance.

>
>Numerous media outlets, including CNBC, are launching series following
>on Netflix' 'Drive to Survive', trying to catch that falling knife.
>
>Good luck. It only hurts when you reach the bottom.

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 by: build - Sun, 29 Oct 2023 03:38 UTC

On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 2:21:37 AM UTC+11, News wrote:
> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
> last year's record 440,000.
>
> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
> peaked?'
>
> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

Liberty stock price up 100% since 2020.
Three races in the US.
Analysts have it as a "buy".
Volumes indicate holders are not selling.

build

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 by: build - Sun, 29 Oct 2023 03:45 UTC

On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 2:38:33 PM UTC+11, build wrote:
> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 2:21:37 AM UTC+11, News wrote:
> > 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
> > this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
> > three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
> > last year's record 440,000.
> >
> > So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
> > peaked?'
> >
> > https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
> Liberty stock price up 100% since 2020.
> Three races in the US.
> Analysts have it as a "buy".
> Volumes indicate holders are not selling.
>
> build

Formula One gets upgraded by Citi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYKu7sxNc-E

build

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 by: geoff - Sun, 29 Oct 2023 08:37 UTC

On 29/10/2023 4:38 pm, build wrote:
> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 2:21:37 AM UTC+11, News wrote:
>> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>> last year's record 440,000.
>>
>> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>> peaked?'
>>
>> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
>
> Liberty stock price up 100% since 2020.
> Three races in the US.
> Analysts have it as a "buy".
> Volumes indicate holders are not selling.
>
> build

Stock Market ? Bit of a gamble ....

geoff

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 by: News - Mon, 30 Oct 2023 13:22 UTC

On 10/28/2023 6:17 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:06:12 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>
>> On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>>>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>>>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>>>> last year's record 440,000.
>>>>
>>>> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>>>> peaked?'
>>>>
>>>> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
>>>
>>>
>>> There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
>>> Attendance in 2021 was 400K
>>> Attendance in 2022 was 440K
>>> Attendance in 2023 was 432K
>>>
>>> Hardly something for them to get worried about.
>>
>>
>> Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.
>
> Your post to which I replied focused on attendance.

Read the link: 'usgp tv ratings fall for third consecutive year'

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

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 by: Martin Harran - Mon, 30 Oct 2023 14:02 UTC

On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:22:06 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

>On 10/28/2023 6:17 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:06:12 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/27/2023 8:29 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>>>>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>>>>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>>>>> last year's record 440,000.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>>>>> peaked?'
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There was no race in 2020 due to Covid
>>>> Attendance in 2021 was 400K
>>>> Attendance in 2022 was 440K
>>>> Attendance in 2023 was 432K
>>>>
>>>> Hardly something for them to get worried about.
>>>
>>>
>>> Liberty lives and dies on TV audience demand, which is way off.
>>
>> Your post to which I replied focused on attendance.
>
>Read the link: 'usgp tv ratings fall for third consecutive year'
>
>https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

Read your own post to which I replied.

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 by: News - Mon, 30 Oct 2023 14:06 UTC

On 10/30/2023 10:02 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
> last year's record 440,000.
>
> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
> peaked?'
>
> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

Get a clue. The article and comments refer to TV ratings, which have
dropped for three years and now likely four, since F1 is no longer able
to hold practices, qualifying or races without artificial interruptions.

> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
> last year's record 440,000.
>
> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
> peaked?'
>
> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

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 by: geoff - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 01:24 UTC

On 31/10/2023 3:06 am, News wrote:
> On 10/30/2023 10:02 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>> last year's record 440,000.
>>
>> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>> peaked?'
>>
>> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
>
>
> Get a clue. The article and comments refer to TV ratings, which have
> dropped for three years and now likely four, since F1 is no longer able
> to hold practices, qualifying or races without artificial interruptions.

Artifical interuptions ?

Maybe just a USA thing. Going the same way as American Football ? :-0<<<

geoff

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 by: News - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:01 UTC

On 10/30/2023 9:24 PM, geoff wrote:
> On 31/10/2023 3:06 am, News wrote:
>> On 10/30/2023 10:02 AM, Martin Harran wrote:
>>> 'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>>> this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>>> three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>>> last year's record 440,000.
>>>
>>> So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>>> peaked?'
>>>
>>> https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
>>
>>
>> Get a clue. The article and comments refer to TV ratings, which have
>> dropped for three years and now likely four, since F1 is no longer
>> able to hold practices, qualifying or races without artificial
>> interruptions.
>
> Artifical interuptions ?
>

Unnecessary red flags and safety cars.

The current state of F1 'spectacle.'

> Maybe just a USA thing. Going the same way as American Football ? :-0<<<
>
> geoff

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 by: Mark Jackson - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 14:21 UTC

On 10/31/2023 9:01 AM, News wrote:
> On 10/30/2023 9:24 PM, geoff wrote:
>> On 31/10/2023 3:06 am, News wrote:

>>> F1 is no longer
>>> able to hold practices, qualifying or races without artificial
>>> interruptions.
>>
>> Artifical interuptions ?
>
> Unnecessary red flags and safety cars.

Tecpro barriers and crane-free runoff areas are for wimps.

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Re: It's over. Liberty is pooched.

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 by: Yazoo - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 08:52 UTC

On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:

>'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
>this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
>three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
>last year's record 440,000.
>
>So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
>peaked?'
>
>https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/

This drop is withing the statistical error, so not significant.
Nothing to be worried about.
The other thing is how to make races more interesting, i.e. teams to
be more equal in performance. Dominance of one team is boring, so they
have to do somenthing about it.

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 by: build - Sun, 5 Nov 2023 21:55 UTC

On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 7:52:41 PM UTC+11, Yazoo wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:21:31 -0400, News <> wrote:
> >'The drop in TV numbers coincides with a reported drop in attendance for
> >this year's race in Austin. Track officials said earlier this week a
> >three-day attendance at Circuit of the Americas of 432,000, a drop from
> >last year's record 440,000.
> >
> >So the question begs, why the drop? Has Formula 1 interest in the U.S.
> >peaked?'
> >
> >https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a45641820/popularity-peak-f1-united-states-grand-prix-tv-ratings-fall-for-third-consecutive-year/
> This drop is withing the statistical error, so not significant.
> Nothing to be worried about.
> The other thing is how to make races more interesting, i.e. teams to
> be more equal in performance. Dominance of one team is boring, so they
> have to do somenthing about it.

There's always a Ford Fiesta series or Nascar. Might suit you better.

build

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 by: Yazoo - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 07:45 UTC

On Sun, 5 Nov 2023 13:55:29 -0800 (PST), build <buildy@gmail.com>
wrote:

...
>
>There's always a Ford Fiesta series or Nascar. Might suit you better.
>
>build
>

Smelling Max's supporter here.
Your comment is not so funny. Try harder.

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