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by: geoff - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 23:51 UTC

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by: Alan - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 23:52 UTC

On 2024-01-24 15:51, geoff wrote:
> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>> Priceless...
>>
>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>
> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>
> geoff

In an era where major sports teams (in Europe) put the sponsor's brand
right on the uniforms, you think it's a joke?

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by: geoff - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 04:22 UTC

On 25/01/2024 12:52 pm, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-01-24 15:51, geoff wrote:
>> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>>> Priceless...
>>>
>>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>>
>> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>>
>> geoff
>
> In an era where major sports teams (in Europe) put the sponsor's brand
> right on the uniforms, you think it's a joke?

If for real is is a butt-awful name for a team. Can you imagine 'Red
Bull Canned Drink F1'.

geoff

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by: Hornplayer9599 - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:04 UTC

On 1/24/2024 22:22, geoff wrote:
> On 25/01/2024 12:52 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-01-24 15:51, geoff wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>>>> Priceless...
>>>>
>>>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>>>
>>> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>>>
>>> geoff
>>
>> In an era where major sports teams (in Europe) put the sponsor's brand
>> right on the uniforms, you think it's a joke?
>
> If for real is is a butt-awful name for a team. Can you imagine 'Red
> Bull Canned Drink F1'.
>
> geoff

Agreed...a butt-awful name. With that said, IMHO, the name "Racing
Point" wasn't much of an improvement.

Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
--Carl Sagan

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by: texas gate - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:43 UTC

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by: Alan - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:57 UTC

On 2024-01-24 20:22, geoff wrote:
> On 25/01/2024 12:52 pm, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-01-24 15:51, geoff wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>>>> Priceless...
>>>>
>>>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>>>
>>> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>>>
>>> geoff
>>
>> In an era where major sports teams (in Europe) put the sponsor's brand
>> right on the uniforms, you think it's a joke?
>
> If for real is is a butt-awful name for a team. Can you imagine 'Red
> Bull Canned Drink F1'.
>
> geoff

Oh, I completely agree...

....but I have no hope that it's a joke.

:-)

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by: texas gate - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 21:43 UTC

On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 11:57:25 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:

> Oh, I completely agree...

oh, you are complete fucking moron

> ...but I have no hope

ya, in your whole shit hole existence

> it's a joke.
you are fucking joke
> :-)

shove the that gay ass smiley up your rotten cunt hole

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by: Sir Tim - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 09:09 UTC

geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>> Priceless...
>>
>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>
> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>
> geoff
>

No joke I’m afraid.
How will the commentators refer to them I wonder. “RBs” possibly?

--
Sir Tim

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by: Sir Tim - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 09:09 UTC

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-01-24 15:51, geoff wrote:
>> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>>> Priceless...
>>>
>>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>>
>> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>>
>> geoff
>
> In an era where major sports teams (in Europe) put the sponsor's brand
> right on the uniforms, you think it's a joke?
>

Actually, I think the commercialisation of the sport began in America. I
remember that many European F1 fans were extremely sniffy about the heavy
sponsorship carried by Indy cars. But then, horror of horrors, Lotus
abandoned their traditional British Racing Green and appeared in full John
Player Gold Leaf livery.

--
Sir Tim

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by: Mark Jackson - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 12:00 UTC

On 1/26/2024 4:09 AM, Sir Tim wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-01-24 15:51, geoff wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>>>> Priceless...
>>>>
>>>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>>>
>>> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !

>> In an era where major sports teams (in Europe) put the sponsor's brand
>> right on the uniforms, you think it's a joke?
>
> Actually, I think the commercialisation of the sport began in America. I
> remember that many European F1 fans were extremely sniffy about the heavy
> sponsorship carried by Indy cars. But then, horror of horrors, Lotus
> abandoned their traditional British Racing Green and appeared in full John
> Player Gold Leaf livery.

The rasf1[m] FAQ:

Q: Which team first had a sponsor, the first race with sponsor,
and the sponsor's name?
A: At the 1968 Spanish GP Lotus appeared in the red and gold
livery of Gold Leaf Cigarettes. If privateers are considered
then one must credit John Love and Sam Tingle, whose "Team
Gunston" Brabham-Repco and LDS-Repco ran in the colors of that
cigarette brand at the season-opening South African event.

--
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Dress for the job you want, not the job you have,
assuming that the job you want is not one in which you
get to lounge around your apartment naked. - Colin Stokes

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by: News - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 14:43 UTC

On 1/26/2024 7:00 AM, Mark Jackson wrote:
> On 1/26/2024 4:09 AM, Sir Tim wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-01-24 15:51, geoff wrote:
>>>> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>>>>> Priceless...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>
>>> In an era where major sports teams (in Europe) put the sponsor's brand
>>> right on the uniforms, you think it's a joke?
>>
>> Actually, I think the commercialisation of the sport began in America. I
>> remember that many European F1 fans were extremely sniffy about the heavy
>> sponsorship carried by Indy cars. But then, horror of horrors, Lotus
>> abandoned their traditional British Racing Green and appeared in full
>> John
>> Player Gold Leaf livery.
>
> The rasf1[m] FAQ:
>
> Q: Which team first had a sponsor, the first race with sponsor,
>    and the sponsor's name?
> A: At the 1968 Spanish GP Lotus appeared in the red and gold
>    livery of Gold Leaf Cigarettes. If privateers are considered
>    then one must credit John Love and Sam Tingle, whose "Team
>    Gunston" Brabham-Repco and LDS-Repco ran in the colors of that
>    cigarette brand at the season-opening South African event.
>

Likewise the Team Gunston Chevron two-liter sports cars.

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by: Sir Tim - Sat, 27 Jan 2024 23:13 UTC

Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>>> Priceless...
>>>
>>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>>
>> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>>
>> geoff
>>
>
> No joke I’m afraid.
> How will the commentators refer to them I wonder. “RBs” possibly?

VCARB seems to be favourite at the moment.

--
Sir Tim

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by: Mark Jackson - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 03:28 UTC

On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
> Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>>> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>>>> Priceless...
>>>>
>>>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>>>
>>> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>>>
>>> geoff
>>>
>>
>> No joke I’m afraid.
>> How will the commentators refer to them I wonder. “RBs” possibly?
>
> VCARB seems to be favourite at the moment.

But Visa garble bargle Formula One Team is the name of the *team*, not
the chassis. Although Mercedes-AMG PETRONAS Formula One Team is the
name of that team nobody calls the cars anything other than Mercedes
during event coverage.

The name of the formerly-AlphaTauri chassis, according to the updated
FIA entry list, is RB, and unless this changes I would be surprised if
RB isn't used to refer to them. Note that the former Alfa Romeo team is
now Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber, but the chassis (again per the FIA) is
Kick Sauber; I expect to hear Kick Sauber (or just Sauber when Crofty
gets excited) but not Stake.

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by: geoff - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 09:54 UTC

On 28/01/2024 4:28 pm, Mark Jackson wrote:
> On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
>> Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:
>>>> On 25/01/2024 3:16 am, News wrote:
>>>>> Priceless...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://theathletic.com/5223917/2024/01/24/alphatauri-name-visa-cash-app-f1/
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully that is a (bad) joke !
>>>>
>>>> geoff
>>>>
>>>
>>> No joke I’m afraid.
>>> How will the commentators refer to them I wonder. “RBs” possibly?
>>
>> VCARB seems to be favourite at the moment.
>
> But Visa garble bargle Formula One Team is the name of the *team*, not
> the chassis. Although Mercedes-AMG PETRONAS Formula One Team is the
> name of that team nobody calls the cars anything other than Mercedes
> during event coverage.
>
> The name of the formerly-AlphaTauri chassis, according to the updated
> FIA entry list, is RB, and unless this changes I would be surprised if
> RB isn't used to refer to them.

So what would they refer to Red Bull as ?

geoff

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by: Mark Jackson - Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:29 UTC

On 1/28/2024 4:54 AM, geoff wrote:
> On 28/01/2024 4:28 pm, Mark Jackson wrote:
>> On 1/27/2024 6:13 PM, Sir Tim wrote:
>>> Sir Tim <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>>>> How will the commentators refer to them I wonder. “RBs” possibly?
>>>
>>> VCARB seems to be favourite at the moment.
>>
>> But Visa garble bargle Formula One Team is the name of the *team*, not
>> the chassis. Although Mercedes-AMG PETRONAS Formula One Team is the
>> name of that team nobody calls the cars anything other than Mercedes
>> during event coverage.
>>
>> The name of the formerly-AlphaTauri chassis, according to the updated
>> FIA entry list, is RB, and unless this changes I would be surprised if
>> RB isn't used to refer to them.
>
> So what would they refer to Red Bull as ?

Red Bull, just as they do now. "RBs" is distinctive - although it does
provide a certain amount of subliminal advertising for an American
fast-food chain. ("We Have the Meats!")

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Get your cards out!	News
Re: Get your cards out!	geoff
Re: Get your cards out!	Alan
Re: Get your cards out!	geoff
Re: Get your cards out!	Hornplayer9599
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Re: Get your cards out!	texas gate
Re: Get your cards out!	texas gate
Re: Get your cards out!	Sir Tim
Re: Get your cards out!	Mark Jackson
Re: Get your cards out!	News
Re: Get your cards out!	Sir Tim
Re: Get your cards out!	Sir Tim
Re: Get your cards out!	Mark Jackson
Re: Get your cards out!	geoff
Re: Get your cards out!	Mark Jackson