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Subject: NOTBCS & NOTCFP rankings, plus CFP Bowl Selection Process
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NOTBCS
Georgia, 0
Michigan, 0.06
Ohio State, 0.43
Florida State, 2.1
Washington, 2.81
Oregon, 4
Alabama, 4.71
Texas, 4.92
Penn State, 8.52
Louisville, 9.38
Missouri, 9.99
Oklahoma, 10.63
Oregon Sate, 10.85
Mississippi, 11.12
LSU, 12.68
Utah, 15.86
Notre Dame, 16.49
James Madison, 16.83
Kansas State, 17.67
Tulane, 18.51
Tennessee, 18.62
Arizona, 19.41
North Carolina, 19.66
Iowa, 20.26
Liberty, 20.8
Oklahoma State, 21.66
Kansas, 22.41
USC, 22.6
Texas A&M, 22.6
Troy, 22.83
Toledo, 22.9
SMU, 23.26
Clemson, 23.29
Duke, 23.43
UNLV, 23.5
Auburn, 23.52
Fresno State, 23.58
North Caroliona State, 23.59
Memphis, 23.62
Iowa State, 23.62
UCLA, 23.63
Miami Ohio, 23.64
Florida, 23.64
Air Force, 23.65
Texas Tech, 23.66
Miami, 23.66
Central Florida, 23.67
Texas-San Antonio, 23.67
Coastal Carolina, 23.68
Mississippi State, 23.68
TCU, 23.68
all others, 23.69

NOTCFP
#1: Michigan
#2: Ohio State
#3: Georgia
#4: Florida State
#5: Washington
#6: Alabama
#7: Oregon
#8: Texas
#9: Penn State
#10: Oklahoma
#11: Mississippi
#12: Missouri
#13: LSU
#14: Louisville
#15: Kansas State
#16: Notre Dame
#17: Oregon State
#18: Utah
#19: James Madison
#20: Iowa
#21: USC
#22: Tennessee
#23: North Carolina
#24: Liberty
#25: Arizona

And now, for the LAST time, the 4-team-playoff CFP Bowl Selection Process

1. Top four CFP ranked teams, Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, you know the drill.

2. The ACC champion goes to the Orange Bowl. If the ACC champion is in the playoff, the highest ranked ACC team takes its place in the Orange. If there are none, the Orange Bowl Committee (not the CFP, and not the ACC) chooses any bowl-eligible ACC team not in the playoff.

3. The highest ranked team from among the SEC, Big Ten, and Notre Dame that is not in the playoff and not a conference champion goes to the Orange.

4. This leaves the Fiesta, Cotton, and Peach. The six teams are chosen pretty much in this order:
(1) The four Power Five champions (besides the ACC) that are not in the playoff
(2) The highest ranked Group of 5 champion, if it is not in the playoff (if it is, no Group of 5 team is automatically chosen to replace it in this group)
(3) The highest ranked teams not already assigned to a bowl, regardless of conference
The CFP Committee decides which teams play in which bowls. There are no "requirements" as to how to do this, but there are "recommendations":
(1) No rematches of games already played this season, so don't expect Texas-Alabama (if Alabama is not in the top five)
(2) Avoid "obvious mismatches" whenever possible
(3) Take geography into account.

And now, as an added bonus, here is what we know so far about the 12-team playoff format:
1. The top five ranked conference champions, and the top seven ranked remaining teams (which can include conference champions), qualify for the playoff.
2. The top four ranked conference champions are seeded 1-4 in ranking order and receive byes into the quarter-finals.
3. The remaining teams are seeded 5-12 in ranking order and placed into the bracket accordingly. Note that a conference champion not seeded in the top 4 is not automatically seeded above the at-large teams. It is very possible that the #5 conference champion ends up with a 12 seed.
4. The bracket is built as follows:
#9 at #8; winner vs #1
#12 at #5; winner vs #4
The winners of these two quarter-finals meet in one semi-final
#11 at #6; winner vs #3
#10 at #7; winner vs #2
The winners of these two quarter-finals meet in the other semi-final
5. First round games are played at the home field of the higher seed, unless the team wants the game played at another site of its choice. Quarter-finals and semi-finals will be at bowl games. For 2024 and 2025, the two bowls that are already scheduled to semi-finals under the old format will be semi-finals in the new format, and the other four will be quarter-finals.
6. "The version I heard was," the bowls are not assigned to games until the matchups are known; they want to keep the traditional conference ties as much as possible. This means the semi-final locations will not be assigned until the four teams are known. AFAIK, the only "mandatory" assignment is, if the Big Ten champion is in the top four, its quarter-final will be at the Rose Bowl.
And the most important rule of all:
7. Rules 1-6 are subject to change before the official announcement.

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 by: Michael Falkner - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 00:55 UTC

On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 4:11:40 PM UTC-8, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:

> And now, for the LAST time, the 4-team-playoff CFP Bowl Selection Process
>
> 1. Top four CFP ranked teams, Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, you know the drill.

I expect no changes: Ohio State vs. Florida State, Michigan vs. Georgia.
> 2. The ACC champion goes to the Orange Bowl. If the ACC champion is in the playoff, the highest ranked ACC team takes its place in the Orange. If there are none, the Orange Bowl Committee (not the CFP, and not the ACC) chooses any bowl-eligible ACC team not in the playoff.

Louisville, now #9 AP and Coaches
> 3. The highest ranked team from among the SEC, Big Ten, and Notre Dame that is not in the playoff and not a conference champion goes to the Orange.

Alabama, now #8.

Louisville vs. Alabama.
> 4. This leaves the Fiesta, Cotton, and Peach. The six teams are chosen pretty much in this order:
> (1) The four Power Five champions (besides the ACC) that are not in the playoff

Washington, Texas (highest ranked P12 and B12 teams)

> (2) The highest ranked Group of 5 champion, if it is not in the playoff (if it is, no Group of 5 team is automatically chosen to replace it in this group)

Tulane at 17.

> (3) The highest ranked teams not already assigned to a bowl, regardless of conference

Oregon at 6, Oregon State at 10, Penn State at 12.

Mike

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Subject: Re: NOTBCS & NOTCFP rankings, plus CFP Bowl Selection Process
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> > 4. This leaves the Fiesta, Cotton, and Peach. The six teams are chosen pretty much in this order:
> > (1) The four Power Five champions (besides the ACC) that are not in the playoff
> Washington, Texas (highest ranked P12 and B12 teams)
> > (2) The highest ranked Group of 5 champion, if it is not in the playoff (if it is, no Group of 5 team is automatically chosen to replace it in this group)
> Tulane at 17.
> > (3) The highest ranked teams not already assigned to a bowl, regardless of conference
> Oregon at 6, Oregon State at 10, Penn State at 12.

This would make the pairings easy:
Cotton - Texas vs Washington
Peach - Oregon vs Penn State
Fiesta - Oregon State vs Tulane
Of course, the I'm Still Calling It The Civil War, Live With It loser is going to drop, as well as the Pac-12 championship game loser.

Going off-topic for a bit: the big loser in the ACC realignment could end up being UC-Davis, as the only two other teams in the America East's field hockey conference west of the Mississippi (Cal and Stanford) are now moving to the ACC, so how are the other schools going to justify the cost of going across the country for just one game? This is why they need to regionalize the conferences for sports besides football and basketball (and maybe women's volleyball, but even then, the power already seems to be fairly regional there).

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