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by: Eric Ramon - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 23:40 UTC

On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 3:20:50 PM UTC-8, JGibson wrote:
> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 4:59:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
> > We have talked about the Pac-12, how if Oregon had won then Washington would be out. Same here. If Alabama wins, put them in, Georgia no.
> And if Alabama wins and Michigan and Florida State both win, who else besides Georgia are you leaving out? Texas or Florida State?

undefeated FSU has to be in

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by: mlmcm...@gmail.com - Sat, 2 Dec 2023 23:51 UTC

On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 5:40:13 PM UTC-6, Eric Ramon wrote:
> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 3:20:50 PM UTC-8, JGibson wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 4:59:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
> > > We have talked about the Pac-12, how if Oregon had won then Washington would be out. Same here. If Alabama wins, put them in, Georgia no.
> > And if Alabama wins and Michigan and Florida State both win, who else besides Georgia are you leaving out? Texas or Florida State?
> undefeated FSU has to be in

You can’t put Alabama in ahead of Texas. Both are one loss conference champs and Texas dominated them in Tuscaloosa.

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Subject: Re: winner of SEC game in, loser should be out
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by: JGibson - Sun, 3 Dec 2023 02:20 UTC

On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 7:07:02 PM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:
> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 6:51:24 PM UTC-5, mlmcm...@gmail..com wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 5:40:13 PM UTC-6, Eric Ramon wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 3:20:50 PM UTC-8, JGibson wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 4:59:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
> > > > > We have talked about the Pac-12, how if Oregon had won then Washington would be out. Same here. If Alabama wins, put them in, Georgia no.
> > > > And if Alabama wins and Michigan and Florida State both win, who else besides Georgia are you leaving out? Texas or Florida State?
> > > undefeated FSU has to be in
> > You can’t put Alabama in ahead of Texas. Both are one loss conference champs and Texas dominated them in Tuscaloosa.
> Strength of schedule will trump head-to-head. No way the SEC gets shutout.. If FSU loses, they both get in. Of course the SEC
> title game isn't over yet.

I don't see any way they both get it unless Michigan loses. And since it's already 10-0, it's basically over for Iowa. Strength of schedule? According to the ESPN FPI page, Texas's SOS is 14th, Alabama's is 5th, and Georgia's is 35th. That's current, as of after their title games. According to Sagarin, heading into today, Texas was 2nd in SOS, Alabama was 15th, and Georgia was 56th. Now, both Georgia's and Alabama's would go up significantly more than Texas's for today's game but not enough for that. If SOS is the big thing, Texas needs to go in over Georgia.

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by: mlmcm...@gmail.com - Sun, 3 Dec 2023 02:55 UTC

On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 6:07:02 PM UTC-6, JE Corbett wrote:
> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 6:51:24 PM UTC-5,
> > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 5:40:13 PM UTC-6, Eric Ramon wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 3:20:50 PM UTC-8, JGibson wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 4:59:50 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
> > > > > We have talked about the Pac-12, how if Oregon had won then Washington would be out. Same here. If Alabama wins, put them in, Georgia no.
> > > > And if Alabama wins and Michigan and Florida State both win, who else besides Georgia are you leaving out? Texas or Florida State?
> > > undefeated FSU has to be in
> > You can’t put Alabama in ahead of Texas. Both are one loss conference champs and Texas dominated them in Tuscaloosa.
> Strength of schedule will trump head-to-head. No way the SEC gets shutout.. If FSU loses, they both get in. Of course the SEC
> title game isn't over yet.

SOS is nearly equal. Some of the rankings have Texas with a tougher SOS. The committee hasn’t got any reason to put in Bama over Texas except “SEC SEC SEC”. They can’t actually make that argument—they have to leave that to the ESPN shills.

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winner of SEC game in, loser should be out	Eric Ramon
winner of SEC game in, loser should be out	Eric Ramon
winner of SEC game in, loser should be out	mlmcm...@gmail.com
winner of SEC game in, loser should be out	JGibson
winner of SEC game in, loser should be out	mlmcm...@gmail.com