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Re: The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0337

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From: milivella@gmail.com (milivella)
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Subject: Re: The Staff game (AKA Crazy Tiny Players) - Choice #0337
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 04:53:56 +0200
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 by: milivella - Wed, 2 Aug 2023 02:53 UTC

What happened
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The Finnish Cup quarter-finals started. Results of the matches before yours:
HJK 0-1 TPS

Your match was at home against Haka. Their XI was:
4-3-3
No Player Ps Skl OPr
01 Markus Juhola G 200K
02 Ari Heikkinen RB STP 300K
05 Harri Ylonen D THV 180K
06 N. Suoste M PTH 450K
03 V. Nylund D THP 180K
07 Sami Vaisanen A HFS 150K
04 Jukka Ruhanen A PTH 130K
11 Jari Kaasalainen LW CSP 180K
08 J. Andersson A HFS 100K
10 Sami Ristila A HFC 200K
09 Tony Elomaa A FHP 250K

You agreed with Aggie and fielded the following XI:

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02 05 03
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07 04 11
10 09 08

No Player I S Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+-
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01 Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 16 0 +25 +1.56
------------------------------------------------------------------
02 Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 54 0 +23 +0.43
05 P.Viljanen CD 160K 12 HTP FIN 10 0 + 7 +0.70
03 Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 53 0 +21 +0.40
------------------------------------------------------------------
06 Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 31 0 +14 +0.45
------------------------------------------------------------------
07 Halonen RW AM 160K 12 SCP FIN 46 1 +34 +0.74
04 McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 18 0 +14 +0.78
11 Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 2 0 + 6 +3.00
------------------------------------------------------------------
10 Adlane A 180K 13 FHP ALG 22 3 + 2 +0.09
09 Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 45 65 +28 +0.62
08 Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232224 FHS FIN 30 11 + 7 +0.23

Video of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cNa_aIS174

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Jaro - Haka
51' 1-0 Tauriainen
62' 2-0 Tauriainen
68' 3-0 Tauriainen
72' 4-0 Tauriainen
78' 5-0 Piirainen

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Possession 53% 47%
Goal attempts 15 10
On target 13 7
Corners won 2 1
Fouls conceded 0 1

Other results:
Ilves and Mypa went through.

The semi-finals will be:
Ilves - Jaro
TPS - MYPA

Also notice that:
- Halonen got a knock.
- Halonen's price has gone up from 170K to 180K.

New choice
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Who do you agree with?

A. Aggie the Agnostic: "Do. Not. Touch. Anything."

B. Ben the Basic: "Make an offer to FinnPa for Jari Hudd: nominally a
right back, but generally a good defender, with his
tackling>speed>passing skills. He's worth 350K."

D. Dan the Dazzled: "Make an offer to Brondby for Kim Daugaard. He's
worth 350K! Oh, by the way, he is a right wing good at
heading>finishing>ball-control."

E. Evelyn the Evaluator: "I'll give you the complete skill report of a
player (in your squad, or on the market) of your choice. You'll have to
skip the next market round (in addition to the current one), though.
Then you'll be given the chance to put that player on the market (if in
your squad) or to make an offer for him (if he is on the market now)."

F. Fred the Frugal: "You will never not play Tsymbalar. Put Jussi
Viljanen on the market!" (Will the Watcher: "...He adds literally
nothing to the team!"

H. Helen the Healer: "I'll reduce Vanhala's injury by 1 match. You skip
the next 2 market rounds (in addition to the current one), though. Or
I'll heal Halonen, and you'll skip just the next round (in addition to
the current one)."

M. Marika the Marketer: "I'll give an additional 403,474 pounds (20% of
your budget at the beginning of the season). You'll have to skip the
next 3 market rounds (in addition to the current one), though."

N. Noah the Netter: "OK, Da Bull this and Da Bull that, but we can get
better forwards! Make an offer to FSW Zwickau for Jacek Mencel. An
attacker (of course) worth 300K. Skills: finishing(!)>heading>shot-power."

P. Pat the Paranoid: "What madman keeps only two central defenders in
his squad?! Make an offer to VPS for Harri Kevari. For just 110K, you
will get a player competent at heading>tackling>shot-power."

S. Scott the Scout: "Halonen is overvalued by the market. Unload him! [=
give him a free transfer]"

T. Trish the Trainer: "I'll improve a player of your choice by 1 point
out of 7 (if goalkeeping: out of 47, and that will make his price
higher) in a skill of your choice. You'll skip the next 3 or 4 (random
choice; if goalkeeping, 3) market rounds (in addition to the current
one), though."

If you agree about getting a report or heal a player, you have to
specify which player. If you agree about improving a player's skill, you
have to specify both the player and the skill. A different subject (i.e.
player or player's skill) count as a different vote: e.g. two votes for
getting the report of player A and two votes for getting the report of
player B lose against three votes for Aggie.

If you agree about making an offer for a player, you can specify the
starting sum, the max sum, and whether you want to use one or two
players of yours (whether they are on the market or not) to replace the
amount of money equivalent to their current price. Likewise, if you
agree about putting a player on the market, you can specify the min sum
you're willing to accept for selling him. Different details (i.e. sums
of money, or players to offer) do _not_ count as different votes: e.g.
two votes for making a starting offer of 100K for player A and two votes
for making a starting offer of 1000K for player B beat three votes for
Aggie.

Consider that if you put a player on the market, you won't be given the
chance to take him off it.

Also, you supposedly can't buy more than 5 players in a season; and you
can't sell more than 5 players in a season. So far you bought 2 players,
and sold 0, plus 0 in exchange for players you bought.

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Useful info
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Squad - Skills and performance
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Player I S Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+-
Mazzantini G 450K 18 0000000 - ITA 17 0 +30 +1.76
Suominen RB D,DM 160K 12 TSP FIN 55 0 +28 +0.51
Snellman CD 100K 8 TFH FIN 10 0 + 9 +0.90
P.Viljanen CD 160K 12 HTP FIN 11 0 +12 +1.10
Nygard LB D,DM 150K 11 TSP FIN 54 0 +26 +0.48
Halonen K RW AM 160K 12 SCP FIN 47 1 +39 +0.83
McGinlay CM DM,D 450K 18 PTS SCO 19 0 +19 +1.00
Puputti CM DM,D 250K 15 PTS FIN 32 0 +19 +0.59
Sorvisto CM 180K 13 TPV FIN 44 7 +15 +0.34
Wiss CM DM 150K 11 PTC FIN 21 1 - 4 -0.19
Tsymbalar LW AM 600K 21 CSP RUS 3 0 +11 +3.67
J.Viljanen LW A 180K 13 CSF FIN 0 0 0 0.00
Yeremenko LW 200K 14 SCH RUS 37 2 +22 +0.59
Adlane A 180K 13 FHP ALG 23 3 + 7 +0.30
Piirainen A A 300K 17 2232224 FHS FIN 31 12 +12 +0.39
Tauriainen A 250K 15 0241215 FHV FIN 46 69 +33 +0.72
Vanhala 2 A 250K 15 PTV FIN 48 12 +22 +0.46

Players on trial = without contract (so their price is unknown [it's low
in most but not all cases] and they could leave the team anytime; if you
play them enough, they'll get a contract)
Player I S Ps B OPr Sm PVHTCSF Skl Nat M G +- Avg+-
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I = Injured: number of weeks he'll be out
- ? = out for an unknown number of weeks
- K = Knock = his form is supposedly OK, but he's more likely to pick up
a serious injury. The knock will heal if he'll get rest.
- S = out for the rest of the season
S = Suspended
Ps = Position
B = positon according to Ben
OPr = Original Price when joined the club
Sm = Sum of skill points
PVHTCSF: skill points in
- P = Passing
- V = shot Velocity from outside the penalty box
- H = Heading
- T = Tackling
- C = ball Control
- S = Speed
- F = Finishing inside the penalty box
Skl = 1st 2nd and 3rd best skill
Nat = Nation
M = Matches played
G = Goals scored
+- = goal difference when the player was on the field
A+- = goal difference per matches played

Squad - Transfer market
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Player Ps OPr CPr S P F T TPr
Andrea Mazzantini G 450K 450K 2 0 1
Tero Suominen RB 160K 180K 3 0 1
Daniel Snellman CD 100K 85K 3 0 2
Petteri Viljanen CD 160K 160K 3 0 2
Tomas Nygard LB 150K 170K 3 0 2
Arto Halonen RW 160K 180K 3 0 1
Pat McGinlay CM 450K 500K 3 0 1
Janne Puputti CM 250K 250K 3 0 1
Marko Sorvisto CM 180K 190K 3 0 1
Jarkko Wiss CM 150K 120K 3 0 2
Ilia Tsymbalar LW 600K 600K 1 0 1
Jussi Viljanen LW 180K 180K 1 0 1
Aleksei Yeremenko LW 200K 200K - - 1 * 160K
Adlane A 180K 150K 3 0 1
Kimmo Piirainen A 300K 225K 3 0 1
Vesa Tauriainen A 250K 300K 2 0 1
Jari Vanhala A 250K 170K 2 0 1

Ps = Position
OPr = Original Price when joined the club
CPr = Current Price
S = how many times you have been suggested to Sell him (before the
current choice)
P = how many of these have been because of bankrupt Panic (before the
current choice)
F = how many times you have been suggested to give him a Free transfer
(before the current choice)
T = on Transfer market
TPr = minimum Transfer Price you'll accept

Bank
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Old balance 1,347,868
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Gate receipts + 82,432
General running costs - 56,000
Player sales 0
Player purchases 0
Player wages bill - 21,092
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Total profit/loss + 5,340
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New balance 1,353,208

Table
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12 *Jaro*
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10 FinnPa
9 MYPA
7 Inter Turku
5 HJK
4 MP
4 Ilves
4 TPS
3 FC Jazz
3 Haka
2 VPS
2 RoPS

Season
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1998/99

Prem Div = Finnish Premier Division: Apr-Oct, 12 teams, play each team
x2, 3 points for a win, 3 substitutes from a bench of 5
Cup = Finnish Cup: May-Jun, 3 rounds, 3 substitutes from a bench of 5, 8
teams; each round being 1 leg, extra time, penalties

Prem Div A Jaro 2-0 Haka
Prem Div H Jaro 3-1 MYPA
Prem Div H Jaro 2-1 MP
Prem Div H Jaro 4-0 HJK
Cup QF H Jaro 5-0 Haka
Prem Div A Jaro - RoPS
Prem Div A Jaro - FinnPa
Cup SF
Prem Div H Jaro - VPS
Prem Div A Jaro - Ilves
Cup F
Prem Div H Jaro - FC Jazz
Prem Div A Jaro - TPS
Prem Div H Jaro - Inter Turku
Prem Div H Jaro - Haka
Prem Div A Jaro - MYPA
Prem Div A Jaro - MP
Prem Div A Jaro - HJK
Prem Div H Jaro - RoPS
Prem Div H Jaro - FinnPa
Prem Div A Jaro - VPS
Prem Div H Jaro - Ilves
Prem Div A Jaro - FC Jazz
Prem Div H Jaro - TPS
Prem Div A Jaro - Inter Turku

Management record
-----------------

First stint

Ssn Club Nat Lvl Pos Cup Int Pl W D L F A Top scorer
----------------------------------------------------------------------
96/97 Once Lobos SAL 4 11 - - 22 5 8 9 9 17 Welter 5
97/98 Once Lobos SAL 4 2 - - 22 11 4 7 13 9 Welter 9
98/99 Once Lobos SAL 4 4 - - 22 10 3 9 15 14 Ruano,Welter 6
99/00 Once Lobos SAL 4 12 - - 17 3 4 10 10 18 Ruano 4
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Total 83 29 19 35 47 58

Second stint

Ssn Club Nat Lvl Pos Cup Int Pl W D L F A Top scorer
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96/97 Haka FIN 1 11 QF - 17 4 6 7 12 14 Vaisanen 4
97/98 Jaro FIN 1 5 QF R2 27 11 4 12 47 45 Tauriainen 29
98/99 Jaro FIN 1 3 SF - 24 13 3 8 48 37 Tauriainen 30
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Total 68 28 13 27 107 96

2011/12 will be the last season.

Full history of choices
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Courtesy of Futbolmetrix:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jqi4vdpqckhqygo/TheStaffGame_History.xlsx?dl=0

About the game
--------------

You can join the game at any time. Majority chooses (computed when the
next choice is set up, something that happens at least 23 hours after
the choice is posted).

This is a career in Sensible World of Soccer 96/97, a videogame. Prices
are in pound sterlings.

Here are the only (as far as I know) variables in SWOS that matter to you:
- Match: each player acts according to the team's formation [1], to his
value in each skill [2], and to his natural position [3] (and to home
advantage?). By default you know each player's 1st 2nd and 3rd best
skills, and his price, that is correlated to the sum of the value of all
his skills [4] (also, if you play a player in position his price could
go up; if you don't play him, or play him off position, his price could
go down; his skill values don't change, though).
- Suspensions and injuries
- Bank:
When Money in Money out
Season begins Competition bonuses
Sponsorship*
Each week Gate receipts* General running costs**
Wages**
Player sales Player purchases
* Proportional to results
** Proportional to players' prices
You can buy and sell players all season long. Other teams always play
with the same XI and don't exchange players with each other.
[1] List of default formations:
4-4-2 = 4-1-3-2
5-4-1 = 5-1-3-1
4-5-1 = 4-1-4-1
5-3-2 = 3-2-3-2
3-5-2 = 3-2-3-2
4-3-3
4-2-4 = 4-2-3-1
3-4-3 = 3-1-3-3
4-4-2s = S-3-1-3-1 (AKA sweep)
5-2-3
3-2-5 = 3-2-3-2 (AKA attack)
6-3-1 = 6-2-1-1 (AKA defend)
All with RB and LB, and (the only exception being "defend") RW and LW
(as forwards if there are just 2 midfielders, otherwise as midfielders).
[2] List of skills: ball control, finishing inside the penalty box,
heading, passing, speed, tackling, shot velocity from outside the
penalty box. A player's value in each of these skills can be 0 to 7.
Goalkeepers only have a goalkeeping skill that can be 0 to 48; only
goalkeepers have this skill.
[3] List of positions: G, RB, D, LB, RW, M, LW, A.
[4] Price = Sum of skill points:
25K 1 (or 0) | 350K 17 | 1.80M 33
30K 2 | 450K 18 | 1.90M 34
40K 3 | 500K 19 | 2.00M 35
50K 4 | 550K 20 | 2.25M 36
65K 5 | 600K 21 | 2.75M 37
75K 6 | 650K 22 | 3.00M 38
85K 7 | 700K 23 | 3.50M 39
100K 8 | 750K 24 | 4.50M 40
110K 9 | 800K 25 | 5.00M 41
130K 10 | 850K 26 | 6.00M 42
150K 11 | 950K 27 | 7.00M 43
160K 12 | 1.00M 28 | 8.00M 44
180K 13 | 1.10M 29 | 9.00M 45
200K 14 | 1.30M 30 | 10M 46
250K 15 | 1.50M 31 | 12M 47
300K 16 | 1.60M 32 | 15M 48 (or 49)

Staff personalities
Male (+ Aggie) = maximizers:
- Aggie the Agnostic: doesn't want to change anything
- Ben the Basic: only looks at skills:
- S + T + (C or H or P) = defender
- P + T + (C or S) = defensive midfielder
- P + (any combination of C, S, V) = attacking midfielder
- S + (F or V) + (C or H) = attacker
- S + F + V = attacker
- Dan the Dazzled: only looks at prices
- Fred the Frugal: wants to save money
- Noah the Netter: thinks that it's all a matter of scoring and not
being scored against
- Ollie the Opponent: only looks at opponents
- Pat the Paranoid: is scared of injuries and suspensions
- Scott the Scout: tries to find new talents
- Will the Watcher: only looks at stats
Female = helpers:
- Evelyn the Evaluator: gives skill reports
- Helen the Healer: heals injured players
- Marika the Marketer: finds money
- Trish the Trainer: improves players

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Cheers
milivella

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