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* Time and SpaceTom Kunich
+* Re: Time and SpaceFrank Krygowski
|`* Re: Time and SpaceJeff Liebermann
| `* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|  +- Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|  `* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|   `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    +* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |`* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    | +* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    | |`* Re: Time and SpaceRoger Merriman
|    | | `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    | |  `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    | |   `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    | |    `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    | |     `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    | |      `- Re: Time and Spacefunkma...@hotmail.com
|    | `* Re: Time and SpaceFrank Krygowski
|    |  `* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |   `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    +* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |`* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    | `* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |  +* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |  |`- Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |  `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   +* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   |+* Re: Time and SpaceJohn B.
|    |    |   ||+- Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||`* Re: Time and SpaceFrank Krygowski
|    |    |   || +* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   || |+* Re: Time and SpaceJohn B.
|    |    |   || ||`* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   || || `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   || ||  +* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   || ||  |`* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   || ||  | `* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   || ||  |  `* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   || ||  |   `* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   || ||  |    `- Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   || ||  `- Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   || |`- Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   || `* Re: Time and SpaceFrank Krygowski
|    |    |   ||  +* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||  |`* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  | `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
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|    |    |   ||  |  |+* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||`* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  || `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||  `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||   +* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||   |+- Re: Time and SpaceJohn B.
|    |    |   ||  |  ||   |`- Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||   `* RE: Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||    `* Re: RE: Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||     `* Re: RE: Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||      `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||       `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        +* Re: Time and SpaceFrank Krygowski
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |+* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        ||+* Re: Time and SpaceFrank Krygowski
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||+- Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||`* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        ||| `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||  `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||   +- Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||   +* Re: Time and Spacefunkma...@hotmail.com
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||   |`* Re: Time and SpaceJeff Liebermann
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||   | `* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||   |  `* Re: Time and SpaceJeff Liebermann
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||   |   `- Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||   `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||    `* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||     +* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||     |`- Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||     `* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||      `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||       `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||        `* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||         `* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||          `* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||           `* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||            `* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||             `* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              +* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              |+* Re: Time and SpaceJohn B.
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              ||`* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              || +* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              || |`- Re: Time and SpaceFrank Krygowski
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              || `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              ||  +- Re: Time and SpaceAMuzi
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              ||  `- Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              |`* Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              | `- Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              +* Re: Time and SpaceJohn B.
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              |+* Re: Time and SpaceFrank Krygowski
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              ||`* Re: Time and SpaceCatrike Ryder
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              || +- Re: Time and SpaceZen Cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              || `* Re: Time and SpaceJohn B.
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              ||  `* Re: Time and SpaceFrank Krygowski
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|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              |`- Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        |||              `- Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  ||        ||`* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
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|    |    |   ||  |  ||        `* Re: Time and Spacezen cycle
|    |    |   ||  |  |`* RE: Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    |    |   ||  |  `* Re: Time and SpaceJeff Liebermann
|    |    |   ||  `* Re: Time and SpaceLou Holtman
|    |    |   |`- Re: Time and Spacefunkma...@hotmail.com
|    |    |   `* Re: Time and SpaceAMuzi
|    |    `* Re: Time and SpaceTom Kunich
|    `- Re: Time and SpaceJohn B.
`- RE: Time and SpaceTom Kunich

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From: slocombjb@gmail.com (John B.)
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 by: John B. - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 22:55 UTC

On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 13:53:44 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 1:33:08?PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 20:43:21 GMT, Tom Kunich <cycl...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Wed Jan 31 14:27:36 2024 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 07:56:23 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program. At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation. What do you have? You sound just like your President.
>> >> <https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg>
>> >>
>> >> Chuckle. Babylon Bee is a humorous news site. I wouldn't consider it
>> >> authoritative. Its motto is: "Fake news you can trust".
>> >>
>> >> Your online resume mentions recommendations from Shaun McCowan:
>> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-kunich-22012/details/recommendations/?detailScreenTabIndex=0>
>> >> Is he your reference? The reference is 15 years old. He was teaching
>> >> at Houston Community College, which is not a university:
>> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/doc0949/details/experience/>
>> >> The problem is that I tried several times to determine if he still
>> >> exists but couldn't find anything. His last employer shows him
>> >> working for CSC in Newark, Delaware in 2011. CSC is a financial
>> >> services and domain registry organization.
>> >> <https://www.cscglobal.com/cscglobal/home/>
>> >> If he's your reference, do you have any contact information or online
>> >> links about him? If not, who is the university professor who gave you
>> >> top ratings?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
>> >> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
>> >> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
>> >> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>> >
>> >Since your entire life is trusting fake news I don't see why you wouldn't accept the Babylon Bee as your go-to site for factual information.
>> Hey Tommy! What about the 18,000 dead from the vaccine? You were going
>> to post proof that you weren't lying but I haven't seen it yet.
>>
>> Or have you grown to like the "Kunch the Liar" title?
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>You were given a reference on where and how to find the information. I have no intensions of holding your hand and showing you how to operate something you couldn't understand in a million years. Of course you could pretend to be smart enough. But then you pretended that being crew chief on an obsolete bomber was important. So important that SAC ne3ver gave it any promotions.

Ah I understand, now. You claim that all those people died from the
vaccine and when asked for proof you can't be bothered to post any
proof that you aren't lying...

So you really are a lying piece of shit, and when given a chance to
defend your assertions just can't do it.
--
Cheers,

John B.

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From: funkmasterxx@hotmail.com (zen cycle)
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 by: zen cycle - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 10:36 UTC

On 2/5/2024 3:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 1/31/2024 5:14 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 2:47:39 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:02:45 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/29/2024 1:15 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:37:59 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I've read the ramblings from the Florida tricycle rider. He's
>>>>>>>> desperate to defend his usual position, which is that any research
>>>>>>>> findings that violate his prejudices must be fake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Krygowski likes to argue against his own words that he falsely
>>>>>>> contributes to people he's afraid to deal with directly.
>>>>>> no one's afraid to deal with you, you narcissistic piece of shit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Which, come to think of it, sounds a lot like "Any election my
>>>>>>>> candidate lost must be stolen.")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More of the above... Is his narcissism the reason he demands
>>>>>>> information from other people?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So a question for him, for John, for Tom: Suppose you were a medical
>>>>>>>> researcher who really, honestly wanted to find out if political
>>>>>>>> leanings for _either_ party were correlated with bad COVID outcomes. How
>>>>>>>> would you go about determining that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First of all, I can't imagine why I'd want to do that.
>>>>>> Proud willful ignorance duly noted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't slither away from the question. Give us a procedure that could
>>>>>>>> give us good results in the real world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even if I did have an answer, it'd be none of Krygowski's business.
>>>>>> whiner.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>> Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program.
>>>>
>>>> Funny, I seem to be able to understand your program better than you do -
>>>> I noticed you had no response when I showed your silly little project
>>>> had an external A/D after you claimed it didn't. Why is it I understand
>>>> you program better than you do?
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mKhS2lPQY_A/m/twbRAH9LAgAJ
>>>>
>>>> "/*SuperSnoop Dectector Board
>>>> Operation of the Detector:
>>>> 1. Via a Detector wand the board detects current
>>>> flow through the water. The current flow is via an AC source from the
>>>> Generator Board. This current flow is detected via the voltage drop
>>>> through the medium's resistance. It is measure with the 24 bit ADC
>>>> (U4) LTC 2440 and passed to the MPU via the Serial Data mechanism on
>>>> the C Port of the MPU."
>>>>
>>>> At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation.
>>>>
>>>> "those who can do, those who can't teach"- tom kunich....now all of a
>>>> sudden a university professor is a credible source?
>>>>
>>>> What do you have?
>>>>
>>>> real credibility, and the work history that proves it.
>>>>
>>>> You sound just like your President.
>>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
>>>>
>>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
>>> Exactly why do you think that I designed that hardware when I said that the hardware was designed by a world famous, analog designer. It is always interesting that you are trying to tell everyone how dumb I am when you are too stupid to actually know that I wrote the software and you couldn't even read the part that only flashed the lights so that the Red and Green LED's would turn yellow as the battery charge got low.
>>>
>>> Now about you second guessing a man with an Oscar for making a sound system for the Grateful Dead that didn't echo off of the surrounding terrain. At what point in your professional career did you accomplish anything? You are nothing more than a paper shuffler who has never designed anything. Explain to me again how You know so much more that Charlie Butten (https://www.installation-international.com/people/founding-father-of-intercoms-to-be-inducted-into-scn-hall-of-fame). While working with Charlie I designed the "belt pack" which allowed people on movie sets to direct their intercom calls to different people on the set. I didn't consider that to be worth noting but that would have been the highlight of your career and you'd still be bragging about it. The fact is that you don't know anything except how to run your mouth off. Charlie INVENTED the intercom. Charlie INVENTED non-echoing sound systems. You dare to criticize his designs because you're so stupid you don't know any better.
>>>
>>> I have a good reason for not remembering what you're blathering about. What is your reason for not know what you're blathering about?
>> lol
>>
>> Just for the floriduh dumbasses benefit, the above rant from kunich is
>> an example of 'triggered'.
>>
>> That aside, tommy's answer to being proven wrong yet again is 'why
>> should I know that when I didn't design the hardware'. But tommy, you're
>> a world class designer, remember? you didn't happen to notice the
>> hardware flaws? You didn't check the scaling of the ADC to make sure the
>> lights would actually work as intended? Some designer you are.
>>
>> And agin, no matter how many times you claim I couldn't understand your
>> silly program, it will never become true.
>>
>> As for Charlie Butten - A notable and respectable designer and
>> businessman for sure. Too bad none of it rubbed off on you.
>>
>> However, had I been given that design to work on, I would have
>> questioned the used of the external ADC. Striving to understand the
>> design of a system is something a good engineer does. Blindly accepting
>> it without questions is just plain sloppy - of course, I guess we should
>> expect sloppy from someone that can't figure out how to tighten a carbon
>> handlebar.
>> --
>> Add xx to reply
>
> Too bad Flunky is so full of bullshit that no one believes him any more.
Should we takwe a poll to see who's more beleiveable in this forum?
People may not like me here <yawn> but I'm pretty sure it isn't due to
credibility except from you and the floriduh dumbass.
> Between him an Krygowski, the whole world looks on in wonder when he vlais that he could read that stupid C series and couldn't. HE was so far in the dark that he never even made one comment. He never even tried to make a comment.
And of course that's a lie as well. I commented when you originally
posted it as well as afterwards when you claimed I didn't comment. The
issue here is that you never responded to _my_ comment, indicating that
you had no answer. When you post a snippet of code that describes the
hardware, then you deny that the hardware was as described in the code,
it belies your complete lack of credibility.
> Flunky, are you even aware what people think about you?
As long as they don't think about me like they think about you, I'm all set.
> You actually talked about bicycles and surprised everyone because it was intelligent and cogent. Everyone had to agree with you one that point. So why did you then turn around and make yet another mindless and stupid statement?
Please list the 'mindless and stupid statement' you claim I made. Odds
are it's not nearly on the same level as 'my shifting problems went away
when I started using special campagnolo non-stretch shifting cable', or
'light lines are a common term for fiber optics in telecommunications',
or 'the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike'....or any
of the other brain-dead comments you make on a daily basis.


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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 21:22 UTC

On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 2:36:58 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> On 2/5/2024 3:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> >> On 1/31/2024 5:14 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 2:47:39 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> >>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:02:45 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> >>>>>> On 1/29/2024 1:15 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:37:59 -0500, Frank Krygowski
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So I've read the ramblings from the Florida tricycle rider. He's
> >>>>>>>> desperate to defend his usual position, which is that any research
> >>>>>>>> findings that violate his prejudices must be fake.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Krygowski likes to argue against his own words that he falsely
> >>>>>>> contributes to people he's afraid to deal with directly.
> >>>>>> no one's afraid to deal with you, you narcissistic piece of shit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> (Which, come to think of it, sounds a lot like "Any election my
> >>>>>>>> candidate lost must be stolen.")
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> More of the above... Is his narcissism the reason he demands
> >>>>>>> information from other people?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So a question for him, for John, for Tom: Suppose you were a medical
> >>>>>>>> researcher who really, honestly wanted to find out if political
> >>>>>>>> leanings for _either_ party were correlated with bad COVID outcomes. How
> >>>>>>>> would you go about determining that?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> First of all, I can't imagine why I'd want to do that.
> >>>>>> Proud willful ignorance duly noted.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Don't slither away from the question. Give us a procedure that could
> >>>>>>>> give us good results in the real world.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Even if I did have an answer, it'd be none of Krygowski's business.
> >>>>>> whiner.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Add xx to reply
> >>>>> Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program.
> >>>>
> >>>> Funny, I seem to be able to understand your program better than you do -
> >>>> I noticed you had no response when I showed your silly little project
> >>>> had an external A/D after you claimed it didn't. Why is it I understand
> >>>> you program better than you do?
> >>>>
> >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mKhS2lPQY_A/m/twbRAH9LAgAJ
> >>>>
> >>>> "/*SuperSnoop Dectector Board
> >>>> Operation of the Detector:
> >>>> 1. Via a Detector wand the board detects current
> >>>> flow through the water. The current flow is via an AC source from the
> >>>> Generator Board. This current flow is detected via the voltage drop
> >>>> through the medium's resistance. It is measure with the 24 bit ADC
> >>>> (U4) LTC 2440 and passed to the MPU via the Serial Data mechanism on
> >>>> the C Port of the MPU."
> >>>>
> >>>> At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation.
> >>>>
> >>>> "those who can do, those who can't teach"- tom kunich....now all of a
> >>>> sudden a university professor is a credible source?
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you have?
> >>>>
> >>>> real credibility, and the work history that proves it.
> >>>>
> >>>> You sound just like your President.
> >>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
> >>>>
> >>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
> >>> Exactly why do you think that I designed that hardware when I said that the hardware was designed by a world famous, analog designer. It is always interesting that you are trying to tell everyone how dumb I am when you are too stupid to actually know that I wrote the software and you couldn't even read the part that only flashed the lights so that the Red and Green LED's would turn yellow as the battery charge got low.
> >>>
> >>> Now about you second guessing a man with an Oscar for making a sound system for the Grateful Dead that didn't echo off of the surrounding terrain. At what point in your professional career did you accomplish anything? You are nothing more than a paper shuffler who has never designed anything. Explain to me again how You know so much more that Charlie Butten (https://www.installation-international.com/people/founding-father-of-intercoms-to-be-inducted-into-scn-hall-of-fame). While working with Charlie I designed the "belt pack" which allowed people on movie sets to direct their intercom calls to different people on the set. I didn't consider that to be worth noting but that would have been the highlight of your career and you'd still be bragging about it. The fact is that you don't know anything except how to run your mouth off. Charlie INVENTED the intercom. Charlie INVENTED non-echoing sound systems. You dare to criticize his designs because you're so stupid you don't know any better.
> >>>
> >>> I have a good reason for not remembering what you're blathering about.. What is your reason for not know what you're blathering about?
> >> lol
> >>
> >> Just for the floriduh dumbasses benefit, the above rant from kunich is
> >> an example of 'triggered'.
> >>
> >> That aside, tommy's answer to being proven wrong yet again is 'why
> >> should I know that when I didn't design the hardware'. But tommy, you're
> >> a world class designer, remember? you didn't happen to notice the
> >> hardware flaws? You didn't check the scaling of the ADC to make sure the
> >> lights would actually work as intended? Some designer you are.
> >>
> >> And agin, no matter how many times you claim I couldn't understand your
> >> silly program, it will never become true.
> >>
> >> As for Charlie Butten - A notable and respectable designer and
> >> businessman for sure. Too bad none of it rubbed off on you.
> >>
> >> However, had I been given that design to work on, I would have
> >> questioned the used of the external ADC. Striving to understand the
> >> design of a system is something a good engineer does. Blindly accepting
> >> it without questions is just plain sloppy - of course, I guess we should
> >> expect sloppy from someone that can't figure out how to tighten a carbon
> >> handlebar.
> >> --
> >> Add xx to reply
> >
> > Too bad Flunky is so full of bullshit that no one believes him any more..
> Should we takwe a poll to see who's more beleiveable in this forum?
> People may not like me here <yawn> but I'm pretty sure it isn't due to
> credibility except from you and the floriduh dumbass.
> > Between him an Krygowski, the whole world looks on in wonder when he vlais that he could read that stupid C series and couldn't. HE was so far in the dark that he never even made one comment. He never even tried to make a comment.
> And of course that's a lie as well. I commented when you originally
> posted it as well as afterwards when you claimed I didn't comment. The
> issue here is that you never responded to _my_ comment, indicating that
> you had no answer. When you post a snippet of code that describes the
> hardware, then you deny that the hardware was as described in the code,
> it belies your complete lack of credibility.
> > Flunky, are you even aware what people think about you?
> As long as they don't think about me like they think about you, I'm all set.
> > You actually talked about bicycles and surprised everyone because it was intelligent and cogent. Everyone had to agree with you one that point. So why did you then turn around and make yet another mindless and stupid statement?
> Please list the 'mindless and stupid statement' you claim I made. Odds
> are it's not nearly on the same level as 'my shifting problems went away
> when I started using special campagnolo non-stretch shifting cable', or
> 'light lines are a common term for fiber optics in telecommunications',
> or 'the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike'....or any
> of the other brain-dead comments you make on a daily basis.


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 by: John B. - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 22:48 UTC

On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 13:22:45 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 2:36:58?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 2/5/2024 3:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:37:01?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> >> On 1/31/2024 5:14 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 2:47:39?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>> >>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >>>>> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:02:45?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> >>>>>> On 1/29/2024 1:15 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:37:59 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> So I've read the ramblings from the Florida tricycle rider. He's
>> >>>>>>>> desperate to defend his usual position, which is that any research
>> >>>>>>>> findings that violate his prejudices must be fake.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Krygowski likes to argue against his own words that he falsely
>> >>>>>>> contributes to people he's afraid to deal with directly.
>> >>>>>> no one's afraid to deal with you, you narcissistic piece of shit.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> (Which, come to think of it, sounds a lot like "Any election my
>> >>>>>>>> candidate lost must be stolen.")
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> More of the above... Is his narcissism the reason he demands
>> >>>>>>> information from other people?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> So a question for him, for John, for Tom: Suppose you were a medical
>> >>>>>>>> researcher who really, honestly wanted to find out if political
>> >>>>>>>> leanings for _either_ party were correlated with bad COVID outcomes. How
>> >>>>>>>> would you go about determining that?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> First of all, I can't imagine why I'd want to do that.
>> >>>>>> Proud willful ignorance duly noted.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Don't slither away from the question. Give us a procedure that could
>> >>>>>>>> give us good results in the real world.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Even if I did have an answer, it'd be none of Krygowski's business.
>> >>>>>> whiner.
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Add xx to reply
>> >>>>> Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Funny, I seem to be able to understand your program better than you do -
>> >>>> I noticed you had no response when I showed your silly little project
>> >>>> had an external A/D after you claimed it didn't. Why is it I understand
>> >>>> you program better than you do?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mKhS2lPQY_A/m/twbRAH9LAgAJ
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "/*SuperSnoop Dectector Board
>> >>>> Operation of the Detector:
>> >>>> 1. Via a Detector wand the board detects current
>> >>>> flow through the water. The current flow is via an AC source from the
>> >>>> Generator Board. This current flow is detected via the voltage drop
>> >>>> through the medium's resistance. It is measure with the 24 bit ADC
>> >>>> (U4) LTC 2440 and passed to the MPU via the Serial Data mechanism on
>> >>>> the C Port of the MPU."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "those who can do, those who can't teach"- tom kunich....now all of a
>> >>>> sudden a university professor is a credible source?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you have?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> real credibility, and the work history that proves it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You sound just like your President.
>> >>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
>> >>>>
>> >>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
>> >>> Exactly why do you think that I designed that hardware when I said that the hardware was designed by a world famous, analog designer. It is always interesting that you are trying to tell everyone how dumb I am when you are too stupid to actually know that I wrote the software and you couldn't even read the part that only flashed the lights so that the Red and Green LED's would turn yellow as the battery charge got low.
>> >>>
>> >>> Now about you second guessing a man with an Oscar for making a sound system for the Grateful Dead that didn't echo off of the surrounding terrain. At what point in your professional career did you accomplish anything? You are nothing more than a paper shuffler who has never designed anything. Explain to me again how You know so much more that Charlie Butten (https://www.installation-international.com/people/founding-father-of-intercoms-to-be-inducted-into-scn-hall-of-fame). While working with Charlie I designed the "belt pack" which allowed people on movie sets to direct their intercom calls to different people on the set. I didn't consider that to be worth noting but that would have been the highlight of your career and you'd still be bragging about it. The fact is that you don't know anything except how to run your mouth off. Charlie INVENTED the intercom. Charlie INVENTED non-echoing sound systems. You dare to criticize his designs because you're so stupid you don't know
any
>better.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have a good reason for not remembering what you're blathering about. What is your reason for not know what you're blathering about?
>> >> lol
>> >>
>> >> Just for the floriduh dumbasses benefit, the above rant from kunich is
>> >> an example of 'triggered'.
>> >>
>> >> That aside, tommy's answer to being proven wrong yet again is 'why
>> >> should I know that when I didn't design the hardware'. But tommy, you're
>> >> a world class designer, remember? you didn't happen to notice the
>> >> hardware flaws? You didn't check the scaling of the ADC to make sure the
>> >> lights would actually work as intended? Some designer you are.
>> >>
>> >> And agin, no matter how many times you claim I couldn't understand your
>> >> silly program, it will never become true.
>> >>
>> >> As for Charlie Butten - A notable and respectable designer and
>> >> businessman for sure. Too bad none of it rubbed off on you.
>> >>
>> >> However, had I been given that design to work on, I would have
>> >> questioned the used of the external ADC. Striving to understand the
>> >> design of a system is something a good engineer does. Blindly accepting
>> >> it without questions is just plain sloppy - of course, I guess we should
>> >> expect sloppy from someone that can't figure out how to tighten a carbon
>> >> handlebar.
>> >> --
>> >> Add xx to reply
>> >
>> > Too bad Flunky is so full of bullshit that no one believes him any more.
>> Should we takwe a poll to see who's more beleiveable in this forum?
>> People may not like me here <yawn> but I'm pretty sure it isn't due to
>> credibility except from you and the floriduh dumbass.
>> > Between him an Krygowski, the whole world looks on in wonder when he vlais that he could read that stupid C series and couldn't. HE was so far in the dark that he never even made one comment. He never even tried to make a comment.
>> And of course that's a lie as well. I commented when you originally
>> posted it as well as afterwards when you claimed I didn't comment. The
>> issue here is that you never responded to _my_ comment, indicating that
>> you had no answer. When you post a snippet of code that describes the
>> hardware, then you deny that the hardware was as described in the code,
>> it belies your complete lack of credibility.
>> > Flunky, are you even aware what people think about you?
>> As long as they don't think about me like they think about you, I'm all set.
>> > You actually talked about bicycles and surprised everyone because it was intelligent and cogent. Everyone had to agree with you one that point. So why did you then turn around and make yet another mindless and stupid statement?
>> Please list the 'mindless and stupid statement' you claim I made. Odds
>> are it's not nearly on the same level as 'my shifting problems went away
>> when I started using special campagnolo non-stretch shifting cable', or
>> 'light lines are a common term for fiber optics in telecommunications',
>> or 'the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike'....or any
>> of the other brain-dead comments you make on a daily basis.
>
>We already know who is believable here - a man who claims to be an electronics engineer but never actually works because he is spending all of his time on the rec.bicycles.tech group despite not knowing shit about bicycle mechanics.
>
>Not to mention telling us all that a 10 bit A to D is enough to discover the signal of water leaking out of a swimming pool on the other side of the pool. Why you're such an electronics genius that the whole world recognizes you. As a lying ass.


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 by: zen cycle - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:09 UTC

On 2/9/2024 4:22 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 2:36:58 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 2/5/2024 3:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:37:01 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 1/31/2024 5:14 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 2:47:39 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:02:45 AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/29/2024 1:15 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:37:59 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I've read the ramblings from the Florida tricycle rider. He's
>>>>>>>>>> desperate to defend his usual position, which is that any research
>>>>>>>>>> findings that violate his prejudices must be fake.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Krygowski likes to argue against his own words that he falsely
>>>>>>>>> contributes to people he's afraid to deal with directly.
>>>>>>>> no one's afraid to deal with you, you narcissistic piece of shit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Which, come to think of it, sounds a lot like "Any election my
>>>>>>>>>> candidate lost must be stolen.")
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More of the above... Is his narcissism the reason he demands
>>>>>>>>> information from other people?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So a question for him, for John, for Tom: Suppose you were a medical
>>>>>>>>>> researcher who really, honestly wanted to find out if political
>>>>>>>>>> leanings for _either_ party were correlated with bad COVID outcomes. How
>>>>>>>>>> would you go about determining that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all, I can't imagine why I'd want to do that.
>>>>>>>> Proud willful ignorance duly noted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't slither away from the question. Give us a procedure that could
>>>>>>>>>> give us good results in the real world.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even if I did have an answer, it'd be none of Krygowski's business.
>>>>>>>> whiner.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>>>> Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny, I seem to be able to understand your program better than you do -
>>>>>> I noticed you had no response when I showed your silly little project
>>>>>> had an external A/D after you claimed it didn't. Why is it I understand
>>>>>> you program better than you do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mKhS2lPQY_A/m/twbRAH9LAgAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "/*SuperSnoop Dectector Board
>>>>>> Operation of the Detector:
>>>>>> 1. Via a Detector wand the board detects current
>>>>>> flow through the water. The current flow is via an AC source from the
>>>>>> Generator Board. This current flow is detected via the voltage drop
>>>>>> through the medium's resistance. It is measure with the 24 bit ADC
>>>>>> (U4) LTC 2440 and passed to the MPU via the Serial Data mechanism on
>>>>>> the C Port of the MPU."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "those who can do, those who can't teach"- tom kunich....now all of a
>>>>>> sudden a university professor is a credible source?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> real credibility, and the work history that proves it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You sound just like your President.
>>>>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
>>>>> Exactly why do you think that I designed that hardware when I said that the hardware was designed by a world famous, analog designer. It is always interesting that you are trying to tell everyone how dumb I am when you are too stupid to actually know that I wrote the software and you couldn't even read the part that only flashed the lights so that the Red and Green LED's would turn yellow as the battery charge got low.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now about you second guessing a man with an Oscar for making a sound system for the Grateful Dead that didn't echo off of the surrounding terrain. At what point in your professional career did you accomplish anything? You are nothing more than a paper shuffler who has never designed anything. Explain to me again how You know so much more that Charlie Butten (https://www.installation-international.com/people/founding-father-of-intercoms-to-be-inducted-into-scn-hall-of-fame). While working with Charlie I designed the "belt pack" which allowed people on movie sets to direct their intercom calls to different people on the set. I didn't consider that to be worth noting but that would have been the highlight of your career and you'd still be bragging about it. The fact is that you don't know anything except how to run your mouth off. Charlie INVENTED the intercom. Charlie INVENTED non-echoing sound systems. You dare to criticize his designs because you're so stupid you don't know any better.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a good reason for not remembering what you're blathering about. What is your reason for not know what you're blathering about?
>>>> lol
>>>>
>>>> Just for the floriduh dumbasses benefit, the above rant from kunich is
>>>> an example of 'triggered'.
>>>>
>>>> That aside, tommy's answer to being proven wrong yet again is 'why
>>>> should I know that when I didn't design the hardware'. But tommy, you're
>>>> a world class designer, remember? you didn't happen to notice the
>>>> hardware flaws? You didn't check the scaling of the ADC to make sure the
>>>> lights would actually work as intended? Some designer you are.
>>>>
>>>> And agin, no matter how many times you claim I couldn't understand your
>>>> silly program, it will never become true.
>>>>
>>>> As for Charlie Butten - A notable and respectable designer and
>>>> businessman for sure. Too bad none of it rubbed off on you.
>>>>
>>>> However, had I been given that design to work on, I would have
>>>> questioned the used of the external ADC. Striving to understand the
>>>> design of a system is something a good engineer does. Blindly accepting
>>>> it without questions is just plain sloppy - of course, I guess we should
>>>> expect sloppy from someone that can't figure out how to tighten a carbon
>>>> handlebar.
>>>> --
>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>
>>> Too bad Flunky is so full of bullshit that no one believes him any more.
>> Should we takwe a poll to see who's more beleiveable in this forum?
>> People may not like me here <yawn> but I'm pretty sure it isn't due to
>> credibility except from you and the floriduh dumbass.
>>> Between him an Krygowski, the whole world looks on in wonder when he vlais that he could read that stupid C series and couldn't. HE was so far in the dark that he never even made one comment. He never even tried to make a comment.
>> And of course that's a lie as well. I commented when you originally
>> posted it as well as afterwards when you claimed I didn't comment. The
>> issue here is that you never responded to _my_ comment, indicating that
>> you had no answer. When you post a snippet of code that describes the
>> hardware, then you deny that the hardware was as described in the code,
>> it belies your complete lack of credibility.
>>> Flunky, are you even aware what people think about you?
>> As long as they don't think about me like they think about you, I'm all set.
>>> You actually talked about bicycles and surprised everyone because it was intelligent and cogent. Everyone had to agree with you one that point. So why did you then turn around and make yet another mindless and stupid statement?
>> Please list the 'mindless and stupid statement' you claim I made. Odds
>> are it's not nearly on the same level as 'my shifting problems went away
>> when I started using special campagnolo non-stretch shifting cable', or
>> 'light lines are a common term for fiber optics in telecommunications',
>> or 'the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike'....or any
>> of the other brain-dead comments you make on a daily basis.
>
> We already know who is believable here - a man who claims to be an electronics engineer but never actually works because he is spending all of his time on the rec.bicycles.tech group

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On Wed Jan 31 05:47:34 2024 zen cycle wrote:
> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:02:45?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> >> On 1/29/2024 1:15 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:37:59 -0500, Frank Krygowski
> >>>
> >>>> So I've read the ramblings from the Florida tricycle rider. He's
> >>>> desperate to defend his usual position, which is that any research
> >>>> findings that violate his prejudices must be fake.
> >>>
> >>> Krygowski likes to argue against his own words that he falsely
> >>> contributes to people he's afraid to deal with directly.
> >> no one's afraid to deal with you, you narcissistic piece of shit.
> >>>
> >>>> (Which, come to think of it, sounds a lot like "Any election my
> >>>> candidate lost must be stolen.")
> >>>
> >>> More of the above... Is his narcissism the reason he demands
> >>> information from other people?
> >>>
> >>>> So a question for him, for John, for Tom: Suppose you were a medical
> >>>> researcher who really, honestly wanted to find out if political
> >>>> leanings for _either_ party were correlated with bad COVID outcomes. How
> >>>> would you go about determining that?
> >>>
> >>> First of all, I can't imagine why I'd want to do that.
> >> Proud willful ignorance duly noted.
> >>>
> >>>> Don't slither away from the question. Give us a procedure that could
> >>>> give us good results in the real world.
> >>>
> >>> Even if I did have an answer, it'd be none of Krygowski's business.
> >> whiner.
> >> --
> >> Add xx to reply
> > Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program.
>
> Funny, I seem to be able to understand your program better than you do -
> I noticed you had no response when I showed your silly little project
> had an external A/D after you claimed it didn't. Why is it I understand
> you program better than you do?
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mKhS2lPQY_A/m/twbRAH9LAgAJ
>
> "/*SuperSnoop Dectector Board
> Operation of the Detector:
> 1. Via a Detector wand the board detects current
> flow through the water. The current flow is via an AC source from the
> Generator Board. This current flow is detected via the voltage drop
> through the medium's resistance. It is measure with the 24 bit ADC
> (U4) LTC 2440 and passed to the MPU via the Serial Data mechanism on
> the C Port of the MPU."
>
> At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation.
>
> "those who can do, those who can't teach"- tom kunich....now all of a
> sudden a university professor is a credible source?
>
> What do you have?
>
> real credibility, and the work history that proves it.
>
> You sound just like your President.
> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
>
> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
>

Flunky want everyone to believe that he is rich and famous. The belt pack that Charley Butten got the Emmy for was thought up by kim but I designed and programmed it. The Idiot idea of his that using the built in A-D converter on the pool leak detector shows that he is useless. He thinks that one part in 1024 i9s as good as one part in 17 million. What's more I A-D just found a written response to Charlie asking him to add that external A-D but to run it at 6.9 MHz clock for maximum sensitivity.

Your pretences to know design or programming is laughable. You know not one single thing about electrical conduction from pool leaks and are telling us all that an external A-D is unnecessary.

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On Fri Feb 9 05:36:51 2024 zen cycle wrote:
> On 2/5/2024 3:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:37:01?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> >> On 1/31/2024 5:14 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 2:47:39?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> >>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:02:45?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> >>>>>> On 1/29/2024 1:15 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:37:59 -0500, Frank Krygowski
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So I've read the ramblings from the Florida tricycle rider. He's
> >>>>>>>> desperate to defend his usual position, which is that any research
> >>>>>>>> findings that violate his prejudices must be fake.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Krygowski likes to argue against his own words that he falsely
> >>>>>>> contributes to people he's afraid to deal with directly.
> >>>>>> no one's afraid to deal with you, you narcissistic piece of shit.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> (Which, come to think of it, sounds a lot like "Any election my
> >>>>>>>> candidate lost must be stolen.")
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> More of the above... Is his narcissism the reason he demands
> >>>>>>> information from other people?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So a question for him, for John, for Tom: Suppose you were a medical
> >>>>>>>> researcher who really, honestly wanted to find out if political
> >>>>>>>> leanings for _either_ party were correlated with bad COVID outcomes. How
> >>>>>>>> would you go about determining that?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> First of all, I can't imagine why I'd want to do that.
> >>>>>> Proud willful ignorance duly noted.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Don't slither away from the question. Give us a procedure that could
> >>>>>>>> give us good results in the real world.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Even if I did have an answer, it'd be none of Krygowski's business.
> >>>>>> whiner.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Add xx to reply
> >>>>> Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program.
> >>>>
> >>>> Funny, I seem to be able to understand your program better than you do -
> >>>> I noticed you had no response when I showed your silly little project
> >>>> had an external A/D after you claimed it didn't. Why is it I understand
> >>>> you program better than you do?
> >>>>
> >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mKhS2lPQY_A/m/twbRAH9LAgAJ
> >>>>
> >>>> "/*SuperSnoop Dectector Board
> >>>> Operation of the Detector:
> >>>> 1. Via a Detector wand the board detects current
> >>>> flow through the water. The current flow is via an AC source from the
> >>>> Generator Board. This current flow is detected via the voltage drop
> >>>> through the medium's resistance. It is measure with the 24 bit ADC
> >>>> (U4) LTC 2440 and passed to the MPU via the Serial Data mechanism on
> >>>> the C Port of the MPU."
> >>>>
> >>>> At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation.
> >>>>
> >>>> "those who can do, those who can't teach"- tom kunich....now all of a
> >>>> sudden a university professor is a credible source?
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you have?
> >>>>
> >>>> real credibility, and the work history that proves it.
> >>>>
> >>>> You sound just like your President.
> >>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
> >>>>
> >>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
> >>> Exactly why do you think that I designed that hardware when I said that the hardware was designed by a world famous, analog designer. It is always interesting that you are trying to tell everyone how dumb I am when you are too stupid to actually know that I wrote the software and you couldn't even read the part that only flashed the lights so that the Red and Green LED's would turn yellow as the battery charge got low.
> >>>
> >>> Now about you second guessing a man with an Oscar for making a sound system for the Grateful Dead that didn't echo off of the surrounding terrain. At what point in your professional career did you accomplish anything? You are nothing more than a paper shuffler who has never designed anything. Explain to me again how You know so much more that Charlie Butten (https://www.installation-international.com/people/founding-father-of-intercoms-to-be-inducted-into-scn-hall-of-fame). While working with Charlie I designed the "belt pack" which allowed people on movie sets to direct their intercom calls to different people on the set. I didn't consider that to be worth noting but that would have been the highlight of your career and you'd still be bragging about it. The fact is that you don't know anything except how to run your mouth off. Charlie INVENTED the intercom. Charlie INVENTED non-echoing sound systems. You dare to criticize his designs because you're so stupid you don't know any better.
> >>>
> >>> I have a good reason for not remembering what you're blathering about. What is your reason for not know what you're blathering about?
> >> lol
> >>
> >> Just for the floriduh dumbasses benefit, the above rant from kunich is
> >> an example of 'triggered'.
> >>
> >> That aside, tommy's answer to being proven wrong yet again is 'why
> >> should I know that when I didn't design the hardware'. But tommy, you're
> >> a world class designer, remember? you didn't happen to notice the
> >> hardware flaws? You didn't check the scaling of the ADC to make sure the
> >> lights would actually work as intended? Some designer you are.
> >>
> >> And agin, no matter how many times you claim I couldn't understand your
> >> silly program, it will never become true.
> >>
> >> As for Charlie Butten - A notable and respectable designer and
> >> businessman for sure. Too bad none of it rubbed off on you.
> >>
> >> However, had I been given that design to work on, I would have
> >> questioned the used of the external ADC. Striving to understand the
> >> design of a system is something a good engineer does. Blindly accepting
> >> it without questions is just plain sloppy - of course, I guess we should
> >> expect sloppy from someone that can't figure out how to tighten a carbon
> >> handlebar.
> >> --
> >> Add xx to reply
> >
> > Too bad Flunky is so full of bullshit that no one believes him any more.
>
> Should we takwe a poll to see who's more beleiveable in this forum?
> People may not like me here <yawn> but I'm pretty sure it isn't due to
> credibility except from you and the floriduh dumbass.
>
> > Between him an Krygowski, the whole world looks on in wonder when he vlais that he could read that stupid C series and couldn't. HE was so far in the dark that he never even made one comment. He never even tried to make a comment.
>
> And of course that's a lie as well. I commented when you originally
> posted it as well as afterwards when you claimed I didn't comment. The
> issue here is that you never responded to _my_ comment, indicating that
> you had no answer. When you post a snippet of code that describes the
> hardware, then you deny that the hardware was as described in the code,
> it belies your complete lack of credibility.
>
> > Flunky, are you even aware what people think about you?
>
> As long as they don't think about me like they think about you, I'm all set.
>
> > You actually talked about bicycles and surprised everyone because it was intelligent and cogent. Everyone had to agree with you one that point. So why did you then turn around and make yet another mindless and stupid statement?
>
> Please list the 'mindless and stupid statement' you claim I made. Odds
> are it's not nearly on the same level as 'my shifting problems went away
> when I started using special campagnolo non-stretch shifting cable', or
> 'light lines are a common term for fiber optics in telecommunications',
> or 'the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike'....or any
> of the other brain-dead comments you make on a daily basis.


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 by: Tom Kunich - Sat, 10 Feb 2024 21:16 UTC

On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 12:05:32 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wed Jan 31 05:47:34 2024 zen cycle wrote:
> > On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:02:45?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> > >> On 1/29/2024 1:15 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:37:59 -0500, Frank Krygowski
> > >>>
> > >>>> So I've read the ramblings from the Florida tricycle rider. He's
> > >>>> desperate to defend his usual position, which is that any research
> > >>>> findings that violate his prejudices must be fake.
> > >>>
> > >>> Krygowski likes to argue against his own words that he falsely
> > >>> contributes to people he's afraid to deal with directly.
> > >> no one's afraid to deal with you, you narcissistic piece of shit.
> > >>>
> > >>>> (Which, come to think of it, sounds a lot like "Any election my
> > >>>> candidate lost must be stolen.")
> > >>>
> > >>> More of the above... Is his narcissism the reason he demands
> > >>> information from other people?
> > >>>
> > >>>> So a question for him, for John, for Tom: Suppose you were a medical
> > >>>> researcher who really, honestly wanted to find out if political
> > >>>> leanings for _either_ party were correlated with bad COVID outcomes. How
> > >>>> would you go about determining that?
> > >>>
> > >>> First of all, I can't imagine why I'd want to do that.
> > >> Proud willful ignorance duly noted.
> > >>>
> > >>>> Don't slither away from the question. Give us a procedure that could
> > >>>> give us good results in the real world.
> > >>>
> > >>> Even if I did have an answer, it'd be none of Krygowski's business.
> > >> whiner.
> > >> --
> > >> Add xx to reply
> > > Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program.
> >
> > Funny, I seem to be able to understand your program better than you do -
> > I noticed you had no response when I showed your silly little project
> > had an external A/D after you claimed it didn't. Why is it I understand
> > you program better than you do?
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mKhS2lPQY_A/m/twbRAH9LAgAJ
> >
> > "/*SuperSnoop Dectector Board
> > Operation of the Detector:
> > 1. Via a Detector wand the board detects current
> > flow through the water. The current flow is via an AC source from the
> > Generator Board. This current flow is detected via the voltage drop
> > through the medium's resistance. It is measure with the 24 bit ADC
> > (U4) LTC 2440 and passed to the MPU via the Serial Data mechanism on
> > the C Port of the MPU."
> >
> > At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation.
> >
> > "those who can do, those who can't teach"- tom kunich....now all of a
> > sudden a university professor is a credible source?
> >
> > What do you have?
> >
> > real credibility, and the work history that proves it.
> >
> > You sound just like your President.
> > https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
> >
> > LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
> >
> Flunky want everyone to believe that he is rich and famous. The belt pack that Charley Butten got the Emmy for was thought up by kim but I designed and programmed it. The Idiot idea of his that using the built in A-D converter on the pool leak detector shows that he is useless. He thinks that one part in 1024 i9s as good as one part in 17 million. What's more I A-D just found a written response to Charlie asking him to add that external A-D but to run it at 6.9 MHz clock for maximum sensitivity.
>
> Your pretences to know design or programming is laughable. You know not one single thing about electrical conduction from pool leaks and are telling us all that an external A-D is unnecessary.

Typo, 6.9 HERTZ

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 by: zen cycle - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:55 UTC

On 2/10/2024 3:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wed Jan 31 05:47:34 2024 zen cycle wrote:
>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
>>
>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
>>
>
> Flunky want everyone to believe that he is rich and famous.

No tommy, I've stated exactly the opposite. You're the one making
outlandish claims for being a rich and famous world-class designer.

> The belt pack that Charley Butten got the Emmy for was thought up by kim but I designed and programmed it.

lol...complete bullshit, outlandish lie. This beltpack you're thinking
of was designed in the late 60's and was completely analog you fucking
idiot, there was no programming involved. From your link:

"What started as a project with a frying pan in a bathroom sink
eventually became the first distributed amplifier analog beltpack
system, and by 1968, Charlie and Bob had established the Clear-Com
business in San Francisco. The original RS-100 was used by such groups
as Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, and the Grateful Dead as part of
their touring systems, and that exposure led to later versions being
adopted by many production crews in various music venues all over the
world."

If you're going to lie about something, at least make it plausible. You
had no involvement whatsoever with the product that started ClearCom,
let alone being on Mr. Buttens design team in the late 60's.

> The Idiot idea of his that using the built in A-D converter on the pool leak detector shows that he is useless. He thinks that one part in 1024 i9s as good as one part in 17 million. .

No, you stupid fuck, I never wrote that. I wrote that a ten bit A/D is
more than adequate for that application. If you really had any
understanding of a/d techniques, you'd understand that.

> What's more I A-D just found a written response to Charlie asking him to add that external A-D but to run it at 6.9 MHz clock for maximum sensitivity.

I'll address that typo in the message where you admitted it (6.9 hz
sampling rate.....omfg!) but you have no correspondence from Mr. Butten.
It's another outlandish lie. If it's true, post it a link showing this
"written response".

How do we know this is just another of your lies? simple. At first you
were claiming there was no external A/D. After I proved there was in
fact an external A/D using code you allegedly wrote, you're now claiming
_your_ are the one who asked him to design the external A/D into the
design.

> Your pretences to know design or programming is laughable.

LOL...says the guy that thinks thermostats don't have hysteresis, cables
are tested with PWM, TDR stands for 'time delay reflection'....talk
about laughable!!!!!

> You know not one single thing about electrical conduction from pool leaks and are telling us all that an external A-D is unnecessary.

An external A/D is completely unnecessary in that application. Nothing
you've written here suggests otherwise.

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On 2/10/2024 3:17 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Fri Feb 9 05:36:51 2024 zen cycle wrote:
>> On 2/5/2024 3:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:37:01?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 1/31/2024 5:14 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 2:47:39?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:02:45?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/29/2024 1:15 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:37:59 -0500, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I've read the ramblings from the Florida tricycle rider. He's
>>>>>>>>>> desperate to defend his usual position, which is that any research
>>>>>>>>>> findings that violate his prejudices must be fake.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Krygowski likes to argue against his own words that he falsely
>>>>>>>>> contributes to people he's afraid to deal with directly.
>>>>>>>> no one's afraid to deal with you, you narcissistic piece of shit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Which, come to think of it, sounds a lot like "Any election my
>>>>>>>>>> candidate lost must be stolen.")
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More of the above... Is his narcissism the reason he demands
>>>>>>>>> information from other people?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So a question for him, for John, for Tom: Suppose you were a medical
>>>>>>>>>> researcher who really, honestly wanted to find out if political
>>>>>>>>>> leanings for _either_ party were correlated with bad COVID outcomes. How
>>>>>>>>>> would you go about determining that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all, I can't imagine why I'd want to do that.
>>>>>>>> Proud willful ignorance duly noted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't slither away from the question. Give us a procedure that could
>>>>>>>>>> give us good results in the real world.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even if I did have an answer, it'd be none of Krygowski's business.
>>>>>>>> whiner.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>>>>> Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny, I seem to be able to understand your program better than you do -
>>>>>> I noticed you had no response when I showed your silly little project
>>>>>> had an external A/D after you claimed it didn't. Why is it I understand
>>>>>> you program better than you do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mKhS2lPQY_A/m/twbRAH9LAgAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "/*SuperSnoop Dectector Board
>>>>>> Operation of the Detector:
>>>>>> 1. Via a Detector wand the board detects current
>>>>>> flow through the water. The current flow is via an AC source from the
>>>>>> Generator Board. This current flow is detected via the voltage drop
>>>>>> through the medium's resistance. It is measure with the 24 bit ADC
>>>>>> (U4) LTC 2440 and passed to the MPU via the Serial Data mechanism on
>>>>>> the C Port of the MPU."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "those who can do, those who can't teach"- tom kunich....now all of a
>>>>>> sudden a university professor is a credible source?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> real credibility, and the work history that proves it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You sound just like your President.
>>>>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
>>>>> Exactly why do you think that I designed that hardware when I said that the hardware was designed by a world famous, analog designer. It is always interesting that you are trying to tell everyone how dumb I am when you are too stupid to actually know that I wrote the software and you couldn't even read the part that only flashed the lights so that the Red and Green LED's would turn yellow as the battery charge got low.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now about you second guessing a man with an Oscar for making a sound system for the Grateful Dead that didn't echo off of the surrounding terrain. At what point in your professional career did you accomplish anything? You are nothing more than a paper shuffler who has never designed anything. Explain to me again how You know so much more that Charlie Butten (https://www.installation-international.com/people/founding-father-of-intercoms-to-be-inducted-into-scn-hall-of-fame). While working with Charlie I designed the "belt pack" which allowed people on movie sets to direct their intercom calls to different people on the set. I didn't consider that to be worth noting but that would have been the highlight of your career and you'd still be bragging about it. The fact is that you don't know anything except how to run your mouth off. Charlie INVENTED the intercom. Charlie INVENTED non-echoing sound systems. You dare to criticize his designs because you're so stupid you don't know any better.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a good reason for not remembering what you're blathering about. What is your reason for not know what you're blathering about?
>>>> lol
>>>>
>>>> Just for the floriduh dumbasses benefit, the above rant from kunich is
>>>> an example of 'triggered'.
>>>>
>>>> That aside, tommy's answer to being proven wrong yet again is 'why
>>>> should I know that when I didn't design the hardware'. But tommy, you're
>>>> a world class designer, remember? you didn't happen to notice the
>>>> hardware flaws? You didn't check the scaling of the ADC to make sure the
>>>> lights would actually work as intended? Some designer you are.
>>>>
>>>> And agin, no matter how many times you claim I couldn't understand your
>>>> silly program, it will never become true.
>>>>
>>>> As for Charlie Butten - A notable and respectable designer and
>>>> businessman for sure. Too bad none of it rubbed off on you.
>>>>
>>>> However, had I been given that design to work on, I would have
>>>> questioned the used of the external ADC. Striving to understand the
>>>> design of a system is something a good engineer does. Blindly accepting
>>>> it without questions is just plain sloppy - of course, I guess we should
>>>> expect sloppy from someone that can't figure out how to tighten a carbon
>>>> handlebar.
>>>> --
>>>> Add xx to reply
>>>
>>> Too bad Flunky is so full of bullshit that no one believes him any more.
>>
>> Should we takwe a poll to see who's more beleiveable in this forum?
>> People may not like me here <yawn> but I'm pretty sure it isn't due to
>> credibility except from you and the floriduh dumbass.
>>
>>> Between him an Krygowski, the whole world looks on in wonder when he vlais that he could read that stupid C series and couldn't. HE was so far in the dark that he never even made one comment. He never even tried to make a comment.
>>
>> And of course that's a lie as well. I commented when you originally
>> posted it as well as afterwards when you claimed I didn't comment. The
>> issue here is that you never responded to _my_ comment, indicating that
>> you had no answer. When you post a snippet of code that describes the
>> hardware, then you deny that the hardware was as described in the code,
>> it belies your complete lack of credibility.
>>
>>> Flunky, are you even aware what people think about you?
>>
>> As long as they don't think about me like they think about you, I'm all set.
>>
>>> You actually talked about bicycles and surprised everyone because it was intelligent and cogent. Everyone had to agree with you one that point. So why did you then turn around and make yet another mindless and stupid statement?
>>
>> Please list the 'mindless and stupid statement' you claim I made. Odds
>> are it's not nearly on the same level as 'my shifting problems went away
>> when I started using special campagnolo non-stretch shifting cable', or
>> 'light lines are a common term for fiber optics in telecommunications',
>> or 'the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike'....or any
>> of the other brain-dead comments you make on a daily basis.
>
> Well, why don't you tell us who your employer is?
>

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On 2/10/2024 4:16 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 12:05:32 PM UTC-8, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> On Wed Jan 31 05:47:34 2024 zen cycle wrote:
>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
>>>
>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
>>>
>> Flunky want everyone to believe that he is rich and famous. The belt pack that Charley Butten got the Emmy for was thought up by kim but I designed and programmed it. The Idiot idea of his that using the built in A-D converter on the pool leak detector shows that he is useless. He thinks that one part in 1024 i9s as good as one part in 17 million. What's more I A-D just found a written response to Charlie asking him to add that external A-D but to run it at 6.9 MHz clock for maximum sensitivity.
>>
>> Your pretences to know design or programming is laughable. You know not one single thing about electrical conduction from pool leaks and are telling us all that an external A-D is unnecessary.
>
> Typo, 6.9 HERTZ

lol...sure, So you went from at first claiming there was no external
a/d, to now claiming it was your idea (not to mention claiming you were
on the development team in the late 60s!).....HAH!!!

Now, to critique your laughable circuit analysis above.

1) 1024 bits of resolution in this application is plenty. You aren't
displaying actual metrics, you're displaying graphic increments on the
OLED and presenting an audio signal. You wouldn't be able to present any
granularity that would be discernible more than a few dozen increments
on the audio side and you're limited by the number of pixels in the
OLED, which back when you were with Clearcom was no better than VGA.
2^24 is massive overkill.

2) The highest resolution of the LTC2440 is for applications where noise
sensitivity in the measured medium needs to be kept at a minimum,
especially in the 55-65 Hz range. Gee tommy, can you think of why they
might need to notch out ~60Hz and why that is basically irrelevant for a
battery operated device?

3) The device isn't run at a 6.9 Hz rate. 6.9 Hz is the output rate that
is a result of setting the device to the maximum sensitivity. Sure, you
can fix it by tying the SDI line high, but what self-respecting designer
would limit the versatility of the device when the sensitivity and
resolution can be set dynamically?
(https://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/2440fe.pdf,
page 13)

So, there _may_ be a legitimate compelling reason to use a 24 bit A/D in
that application, but you're clearly unaware if there is one. This is
the reason a good engineer questions a design - it's what's done in a
design review, and only the most arrogant of engineers would refuse to
explain their design philosophy when questioned.

Silly tommy - from arguing economics with Janet Yellen, to being a
"senior business consultant" (lol), to being responsible for the design
of the majority of medical electronics found in hospital emergency
rooms, to now being wholly responsible for the design and "programming"
of the product the Charlie Butten used to start the Clearcom corporation
in the late 60's....yet somehow I'm the one that wants everyone to
believe I'm "rich and famous".

Tommy lying as only tommy can lie.

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On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 4:55:29 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> On 2/10/2024 3:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Wed Jan 31 05:47:34 2024 zen cycle wrote:
> >> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>
> >> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
> >>
> >> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot..
> >>
> >
> > Flunky want everyone to believe that he is rich and famous.
> No tommy, I've stated exactly the opposite. You're the one making
> outlandish claims for being a rich and famous world-class designer.
> > The belt pack that Charley Butten got the Emmy for was thought up by kim but I designed and programmed it.
> lol...complete bullshit, outlandish lie. This beltpack you're thinking
> of was designed in the late 60's and was completely analog you fucking
> idiot, there was no programming involved. From your link:
>
> "What started as a project with a frying pan in a bathroom sink
> eventually became the first distributed amplifier analog beltpack
> system, and by 1968, Charlie and Bob had established the Clear-Com
> business in San Francisco. The original RS-100 was used by such groups
> as Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, and the Grateful Dead as part of
> their touring systems, and that exposure led to later versions being
> adopted by many production crews in various music venues all over the
> world."
>
> If you're going to lie about something, at least make it plausible. You
> had no involvement whatsoever with the product that started ClearCom,
> let alone being on Mr. Buttens design team in the late 60's.
>
>
> > The Idiot idea of his that using the built in A-D converter on the pool leak detector shows that he is useless. He thinks that one part in 1024 i9s as good as one part in 17 million. .
>
> No, you stupid fuck, I never wrote that. I wrote that a ten bit A/D is
> more than adequate for that application. If you really had any
> understanding of a/d techniques, you'd understand that.
> > What's more I A-D just found a written response to Charlie asking him to add that external A-D but to run it at 6.9 MHz clock for maximum sensitivity.
> I'll address that typo in the message where you admitted it (6.9 hz
> sampling rate.....omfg!) but you have no correspondence from Mr. Butten.
> It's another outlandish lie. If it's true, post it a link showing this
> "written response".
>
> How do we know this is just another of your lies? simple. At first you
> were claiming there was no external A/D. After I proved there was in
> fact an external A/D using code you allegedly wrote, you're now claiming
> _your_ are the one who asked him to design the external A/D into the
> design.
> > Your pretences to know design or programming is laughable.
> LOL...says the guy that thinks thermostats don't have hysteresis, cables
> are tested with PWM, TDR stands for 'time delay reflection'....talk
> about laughable!!!!!
> > You know not one single thing about electrical conduction from pool leaks and are telling us all that an external A-D is unnecessary.
> An external A/D is completely unnecessary in that application. Nothing
> you've written here suggests otherwise.

Hey stupid, analog has to be separately wired. Do you even understand the term "later versions"? And while Charlies had two or three channels mine had 16. Though I'm sure you don't know why. I didn't work for Clear Com for very long since they wanted a static product line.

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On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 5:17:18 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> On 2/10/2024 3:17 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Fri Feb 9 05:36:51 2024 zen cycle wrote:
> >> On 2/5/2024 3:49 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:37:01?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> >>>> On 1/31/2024 5:14 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 2:47:39?AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> >>>>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 11:02:45?AM UTC-8, Zen Cycle wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 1/29/2024 1:15 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 12:37:59 -0500, Frank Krygowski
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So I've read the ramblings from the Florida tricycle rider. He's
> >>>>>>>>>> desperate to defend his usual position, which is that any research
> >>>>>>>>>> findings that violate his prejudices must be fake.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Krygowski likes to argue against his own words that he falsely
> >>>>>>>>> contributes to people he's afraid to deal with directly.
> >>>>>>>> no one's afraid to deal with you, you narcissistic piece of shit..
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> (Which, come to think of it, sounds a lot like "Any election my
> >>>>>>>>>> candidate lost must be stolen.")
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> More of the above... Is his narcissism the reason he demands
> >>>>>>>>> information from other people?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So a question for him, for John, for Tom: Suppose you were a medical
> >>>>>>>>>> researcher who really, honestly wanted to find out if political
> >>>>>>>>>> leanings for _either_ party were correlated with bad COVID outcomes. How
> >>>>>>>>>> would you go about determining that?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> First of all, I can't imagine why I'd want to do that.
> >>>>>>>> Proud willful ignorance duly noted.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Don't slither away from the question. Give us a procedure that could
> >>>>>>>>>> give us good results in the real world.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Even if I did have an answer, it'd be none of Krygowski's business.
> >>>>>>>> whiner.
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Add xx to reply
> >>>>>>> Whining and crying that you are too an EE when you couldn/t read a simple program.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Funny, I seem to be able to understand your program better than you do -
> >>>>>> I noticed you had no response when I showed your silly little project
> >>>>>> had an external A/D after you claimed it didn't. Why is it I understand
> >>>>>> you program better than you do?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mKhS2lPQY_A/m/twbRAH9LAgAJ
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "/*SuperSnoop Dectector Board
> >>>>>> Operation of the Detector:
> >>>>>> 1. Via a Detector wand the board detects current
> >>>>>> flow through the water. The current flow is via an AC source from the
> >>>>>> Generator Board. This current flow is detected via the voltage drop
> >>>>>> through the medium's resistance. It is measure with the 24 bit ADC
> >>>>>> (U4) LTC 2440 and passed to the MPU via the Serial Data mechanism on
> >>>>>> the C Port of the MPU."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At least I had a university professor give me a top rating recommendation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "those who can do, those who can't teach"- tom kunich....now all of a
> >>>>>> sudden a university professor is a credible source?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What do you have?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> real credibility, and the work history that proves it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You sound just like your President.
> >>>>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
> >>>>> Exactly why do you think that I designed that hardware when I said that the hardware was designed by a world famous, analog designer. It is always interesting that you are trying to tell everyone how dumb I am when you are too stupid to actually know that I wrote the software and you couldn't even read the part that only flashed the lights so that the Red and Green LED's would turn yellow as the battery charge got low.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now about you second guessing a man with an Oscar for making a sound system for the Grateful Dead that didn't echo off of the surrounding terrain. At what point in your professional career did you accomplish anything? You are nothing more than a paper shuffler who has never designed anything.. Explain to me again how You know so much more that Charlie Butten (https://www.installation-international.com/people/founding-father-of-intercoms-to-be-inducted-into-scn-hall-of-fame). While working with Charlie I designed the "belt pack" which allowed people on movie sets to direct their intercom calls to different people on the set. I didn't consider that to be worth noting but that would have been the highlight of your career and you'd still be bragging about it. The fact is that you don't know anything except how to run your mouth off. Charlie INVENTED the intercom. Charlie INVENTED non-echoing sound systems. You dare to criticize his designs because you're so stupid you don't know any better.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a good reason for not remembering what you're blathering about. What is your reason for not know what you're blathering about?
> >>>> lol
> >>>>
> >>>> Just for the floriduh dumbasses benefit, the above rant from kunich is
> >>>> an example of 'triggered'.
> >>>>
> >>>> That aside, tommy's answer to being proven wrong yet again is 'why
> >>>> should I know that when I didn't design the hardware'. But tommy, you're
> >>>> a world class designer, remember? you didn't happen to notice the
> >>>> hardware flaws? You didn't check the scaling of the ADC to make sure the
> >>>> lights would actually work as intended? Some designer you are.
> >>>>
> >>>> And agin, no matter how many times you claim I couldn't understand your
> >>>> silly program, it will never become true.
> >>>>
> >>>> As for Charlie Butten - A notable and respectable designer and
> >>>> businessman for sure. Too bad none of it rubbed off on you.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, had I been given that design to work on, I would have
> >>>> questioned the used of the external ADC. Striving to understand the
> >>>> design of a system is something a good engineer does. Blindly accepting
> >>>> it without questions is just plain sloppy - of course, I guess we should
> >>>> expect sloppy from someone that can't figure out how to tighten a carbon
> >>>> handlebar.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Add xx to reply
> >>>
> >>> Too bad Flunky is so full of bullshit that no one believes him any more.
> >>
> >> Should we takwe a poll to see who's more beleiveable in this forum?
> >> People may not like me here <yawn> but I'm pretty sure it isn't due to
> >> credibility except from you and the floriduh dumbass.
> >>
> >>> Between him an Krygowski, the whole world looks on in wonder when he vlais that he could read that stupid C series and couldn't. HE was so far in the dark that he never even made one comment. He never even tried to make a comment.
> >>
> >> And of course that's a lie as well. I commented when you originally
> >> posted it as well as afterwards when you claimed I didn't comment. The
> >> issue here is that you never responded to _my_ comment, indicating that
> >> you had no answer. When you post a snippet of code that describes the
> >> hardware, then you deny that the hardware was as described in the code,
> >> it belies your complete lack of credibility.
> >>
> >>> Flunky, are you even aware what people think about you?
> >>
> >> As long as they don't think about me like they think about you, I'm all set.
> >>
> >>> You actually talked about bicycles and surprised everyone because it was intelligent and cogent. Everyone had to agree with you one that point. So why did you then turn around and make yet another mindless and stupid statement?
> >>
> >> Please list the 'mindless and stupid statement' you claim I made. Odds
> >> are it's not nearly on the same level as 'my shifting problems went away
> >> when I started using special campagnolo non-stretch shifting cable', or
> >> 'light lines are a common term for fiber optics in telecommunications',
> >> or 'the dent in my top tube popped out from riding the bike'....or any
> >> of the other brain-dead comments you make on a daily basis.
> >
> > Well, why don't you tell us who your employer is?
> >
> I'll do that after you show a link to a piece of test equipment that
> uses PWM to test cables (and no, TDR testers do not use PWM as the
> signal source).


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On 2/11/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 4:55:29 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 2/10/2024 3:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Wed Jan 31 05:47:34 2024 zen cycle wrote:
>>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
>>>>
>>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Flunky want everyone to believe that he is rich and famous.
>> No tommy, I've stated exactly the opposite. You're the one making
>> outlandish claims for being a rich and famous world-class designer.
>>> The belt pack that Charley Butten got the Emmy for was thought up by kim but I designed and programmed it.
>> lol...complete bullshit, outlandish lie. This beltpack you're thinking
>> of was designed in the late 60's and was completely analog you fucking
>> idiot, there was no programming involved. From your link:
>>
>> "What started as a project with a frying pan in a bathroom sink
>> eventually became the first distributed amplifier analog beltpack
>> system, and by 1968, Charlie and Bob had established the Clear-Com
>> business in San Francisco. The original RS-100 was used by such groups
>> as Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, and the Grateful Dead as part of
>> their touring systems, and that exposure led to later versions being
>> adopted by many production crews in various music venues all over the
>> world."
>>
>> If you're going to lie about something, at least make it plausible. You
>> had no involvement whatsoever with the product that started ClearCom,
>> let alone being on Mr. Buttens design team in the late 60's.
>>
>>
>>> The Idiot idea of his that using the built in A-D converter on the pool leak detector shows that he is useless. He thinks that one part in 1024 i9s as good as one part in 17 million. .
>>
>> No, you stupid fuck, I never wrote that. I wrote that a ten bit A/D is
>> more than adequate for that application. If you really had any
>> understanding of a/d techniques, you'd understand that.
>>> What's more I A-D just found a written response to Charlie asking him to add that external A-D but to run it at 6.9 MHz clock for maximum sensitivity.
>> I'll address that typo in the message where you admitted it (6.9 hz
>> sampling rate.....omfg!) but you have no correspondence from Mr. Butten.
>> It's another outlandish lie. If it's true, post it a link showing this
>> "written response".
>>
>> How do we know this is just another of your lies? simple. At first you
>> were claiming there was no external A/D. After I proved there was in
>> fact an external A/D using code you allegedly wrote, you're now claiming
>> _your_ are the one who asked him to design the external A/D into the
>> design.
>>> Your pretences to know design or programming is laughable.
>> LOL...says the guy that thinks thermostats don't have hysteresis, cables
>> are tested with PWM, TDR stands for 'time delay reflection'....talk
>> about laughable!!!!!
>>> You know not one single thing about electrical conduction from pool leaks and are telling us all that an external A-D is unnecessary.
>> An external A/D is completely unnecessary in that application. Nothing
>> you've written here suggests otherwise.
>
> Hey stupid, analog has to be separately wired.

LOL...sure skippy, that's why the PIC18F45K22 not only has a dedicated
analog A/D input for the internal A/D, it also has 28 discreet
configurable analog input pins.

> Do you even understand the term "later versions"?

Gee, maybe that's why I have the title "Principal Sustaining and
Compliance Engineer" - because they want someone who doesn't have a clue
about such lofty concepts as 'product roadmaps' and 'continuous product
improvement'.

> And while Charlies had two or three channels mine had 16. Though I'm sure you don't know why.

<sarcasm> Gee, multiple channels for live event coordination, why would
anyone need more than one channel for that? </sarcasm>

> I didn't work for Clear Com for very long since they wanted a static product line.

lol...sure, they fired you for wanting to innovate....yeah, that sounds
like something ClearCom would do, never develop a new product!

No, Tommy, no one believes Clearcom's business model is/was a static
product line. Like all your other jobs, you were fired for being an
inept asshole, and it starts with things like "PWM is commonly used to
test cables" and 'TDR = time delay reflection'.

Isn't there a bike repair you should be fucking up right about now?

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On 2/11/2024 11:01 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 5:17:18 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 2/10/2024 3:17 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, why don't you tell us who your employer is?
>>>
>> I'll do that after you show a link to a piece of test equipment that
>> uses PWM to test cables (and no, TDR testers do not use PWM as the
>> signal source).
>
> Dumber and dumber - you're telling me what test equipment I build for a business I was co-owner of.

No, stupid, I'm saying you're lying about it. You never designed any
test equipment, let alone for any business you allegedly co-owned. Show
a link to a piece of test equipment that uses PWM to test cables, and
I'll post my Linkedin page.

>
> By the way, you said you only publish once or twice a day.

No, I didn't. Try reading for what I wrote rather than what you wanted
me to write.

> This is the third time in the last three hours

It's also sunday, dumbass.

> and this is probably your home account while Flunkmeister is you business account.

If you had any clue about how this interweb thingie works you'd know
I've been posting exclusively from my Thunderbird account for a while
now, regardless of the time of day. You'd also know I was posting
exclusively through Google Groups until I installed Thunderbird on both
my home and work machines, regardless of the time of day. You do know
that Thunderbird is a proxy, right?

> Why don't you tell us your employer so that we can ask him to decide?

I'll do that after you show a link to a piece of test equipment that
uses PWM to test cables (and no, TDR testers do not use PWM as the
signal source).

Or will you just continue to claim to be the richest and most famous
electronics engineer/'senior business consultant' no one has ever heard of?

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 by: Tom Kunich - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 20:37 UTC

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 8:30:11 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> On 2/11/2024 11:01 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 5:17:18 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> >> On 2/10/2024 3:17 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, why don't you tell us who your employer is?
> >>>
> >> I'll do that after you show a link to a piece of test equipment that
> >> uses PWM to test cables (and no, TDR testers do not use PWM as the
> >> signal source).
> >
> > Dumber and dumber - you're telling me what test equipment I build for a business I was co-owner of.
> No, stupid, I'm saying you're lying about it. You never designed any
> test equipment, let alone for any business you allegedly co-owned. Show
> a link to a piece of test equipment that uses PWM to test cables, and
> I'll post my Linkedin page.
> >
> > By the way, you said you only publish once or twice a day.
> No, I didn't. Try reading for what I wrote rather than what you wanted
> me to write.
> > This is the third time in the last three hours
> It's also sunday, dumbass.
> > and this is probably your home account while Flunkmeister is you business account.
> If you had any clue about how this interweb thingie works you'd know
> I've been posting exclusively from my Thunderbird account for a while
> now, regardless of the time of day. You'd also know I was posting
> exclusively through Google Groups until I installed Thunderbird on both
> my home and work machines, regardless of the time of day. You do know
> that Thunderbird is a proxy, right?
> > Why don't you tell us your employer so that we can ask him to decide?
> I'll do that after you show a link to a piece of test equipment that
> uses PWM to test cables (and no, TDR testers do not use PWM as the
> signal source).
> Or will you just continue to claim to be the richest and most famous
> electronics engineer/'senior business consultant' no one has ever heard of?

Just because you cannot understand how you could measure the length of a piece of wire with PWM it doesn't exist. Neither did anyone ever call Fiber optics "light lines until you were showed it and even then you denied it. https://www.fiberopticstech.com/products/light-lines/

Didn't you just say that you only posted once a day? So you're lying about that as well. Mr. Electronics Engineer who can't make a living at it wants to tell us about things he can't understand. "Give me proof?" Kiss my ass you nobody. Go talk to Liebermann, you and he have held equal jobs. Barely a technician level. In fact, I am insulting technicians putting you and Liebermann in the same class as a good technician. As for wealthy, you can't even rise to the level of making a decent living and it is plain why.

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 20:52 UTC

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> Just because you cannot understand how you could measure the length of a piece of wire with PWM it doesn't exist.

To be impartial, I'm going to agree with that statement of Tom's, at
least in general. Any one of us will have technical points they may not
understand. None of us knows everything.

However, based on their posts, it looks to me that Zen understands quite
a bit more about such things than Tom does.

Still, if Tom is correct, he can gain a big increase in respect by doing
something simple: Post a good link, or give a good detailed explanation,
showing how to measure a length of wire using PWM.

It's not my field, so educate me!

--
- Frank Krygowski

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On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 8:17:43 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> On 2/11/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 4:55:29 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> >> On 2/10/2024 3:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Wed Jan 31 05:47:34 2024 zen cycle wrote:
> >>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
> >>>>
> >>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Flunky want everyone to believe that he is rich and famous.
> >> No tommy, I've stated exactly the opposite. You're the one making
> >> outlandish claims for being a rich and famous world-class designer.
> >>> The belt pack that Charley Butten got the Emmy for was thought up by kim but I designed and programmed it.
> >> lol...complete bullshit, outlandish lie. This beltpack you're thinking
> >> of was designed in the late 60's and was completely analog you fucking
> >> idiot, there was no programming involved. From your link:
> >>
> >> "What started as a project with a frying pan in a bathroom sink
> >> eventually became the first distributed amplifier analog beltpack
> >> system, and by 1968, Charlie and Bob had established the Clear-Com
> >> business in San Francisco. The original RS-100 was used by such groups
> >> as Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, and the Grateful Dead as part of
> >> their touring systems, and that exposure led to later versions being
> >> adopted by many production crews in various music venues all over the
> >> world."
> >>
> >> If you're going to lie about something, at least make it plausible. You
> >> had no involvement whatsoever with the product that started ClearCom,
> >> let alone being on Mr. Buttens design team in the late 60's.
> >>
> >>
> >>> The Idiot idea of his that using the built in A-D converter on the pool leak detector shows that he is useless. He thinks that one part in 1024 i9s as good as one part in 17 million. .
> >>
> >> No, you stupid fuck, I never wrote that. I wrote that a ten bit A/D is
> >> more than adequate for that application. If you really had any
> >> understanding of a/d techniques, you'd understand that.
> >>> What's more I A-D just found a written response to Charlie asking him to add that external A-D but to run it at 6.9 MHz clock for maximum sensitivity.
> >> I'll address that typo in the message where you admitted it (6.9 hz
> >> sampling rate.....omfg!) but you have no correspondence from Mr. Butten.
> >> It's another outlandish lie. If it's true, post it a link showing this
> >> "written response".
> >>
> >> How do we know this is just another of your lies? simple. At first you
> >> were claiming there was no external A/D. After I proved there was in
> >> fact an external A/D using code you allegedly wrote, you're now claiming
> >> _your_ are the one who asked him to design the external A/D into the
> >> design.
> >>> Your pretences to know design or programming is laughable.
> >> LOL...says the guy that thinks thermostats don't have hysteresis, cables
> >> are tested with PWM, TDR stands for 'time delay reflection'....talk
> >> about laughable!!!!!
> >>> You know not one single thing about electrical conduction from pool leaks and are telling us all that an external A-D is unnecessary.
> >> An external A/D is completely unnecessary in that application. Nothing
> >> you've written here suggests otherwise.
> >
> > Hey stupid, analog has to be separately wired.
> LOL...sure skippy, that's why the PIC18F45K22 not only has a dedicated
> analog A/D input for the internal A/D, it also has 28 discreet
> configurable analog input pins.
> > Do you even understand the term "later versions"?
> Gee, maybe that's why I have the title "Principal Sustaining and
> Compliance Engineer" - because they want someone who doesn't have a clue
> about such lofty concepts as 'product roadmaps' and 'continuous product
> improvement'.
> > And while Charlies had two or three channels mine had 16. Though I'm sure you don't know why.
> <sarcasm> Gee, multiple channels for live event coordination, why would
> anyone need more than one channel for that? </sarcasm>
> > I didn't work for Clear Com for very long since they wanted a static product line.
> lol...sure, they fired you for wanting to innovate....yeah, that sounds
> like something ClearCom would do, never develop a new product!
>
> No, Tommy, no one believes Clearcom's business model is/was a static
> product line. Like all your other jobs, you were fired for being an
> inept asshole, and it starts with things like "PWM is commonly used to
> test cables" and 'TDR = time delay reflection'.
>
> Isn't there a bike repair you should be fucking up right about now?

Now you have reached the level of incompetence that is laughable. You cannot even CONCIEVE of why you might need multiple channels on an intercom. https://www.clearcom.com/Product/category/base-stations/bs210?id=2390 exactly why do you suppose they have multiple channels? According to Flunky everyone on a movie set needs to know what everyone else is doing. Flunky, you are a ridiculous fool.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:58 UTC

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:52:38 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 2/11/2024 3:37 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> > Just because you cannot understand how you could measure the length of a piece of wire with PWM it doesn't exist.
> To be impartial, I'm going to agree with that statement of Tom's, at
> least in general. Any one of us will have technical points they may not
> understand. None of us knows everything.
>
> However, based on their posts, it looks to me that Zen understands quite
> a bit more about such things than Tom does.
>
> Still, if Tom is correct, he can gain a big increase in respect by doing
> something simple: Post a good link, or give a good detailed explanation,
> showing how to measure a length of wire using PWM.
>
> It's not my field, so educate me!
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski
You don't know anything about it but "post a link" that explains it to you? Electron "drift" in a wire is about 1 mm per second. All you do is either use signal reflection (which isn't very good in lengthy wires) or better to connect two of the wires together (telephone cables have four wires in the cable) and apply a signal to one end.You look at the other end with an oscilloscope and use PWM until the pulses perfectly overlap and measure the time and multiply by 1 mm per second and then count the time of the pulse width and divide by two' Why this is so difficult that not only does the great brain of Flunky fail to understand that but he cannot even conceive of it.. But he claims to be an EE and this somehow bypasses his understanding. We measured rolls of wire in feet and needed to know how much wire was left in the 100 or 500 foot roll so we calculated .003834 feet in 1 mm. So much for that vaunted knowledge of Flunky.

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 04:10 UTC

On 2/11/2024 4:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:52:38 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 2/11/2024 3:37 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>> Just because you cannot understand how you could measure the length of a piece of wire with PWM it doesn't exist.
>> To be impartial, I'm going to agree with that statement of Tom's, at
>> least in general. Any one of us will have technical points they may not
>> understand. None of us knows everything.
>>
>> However, based on their posts, it looks to me that Zen understands quite
>> a bit more about such things than Tom does.
>>
>> Still, if Tom is correct, he can gain a big increase in respect by doing
>> something simple: Post a good link, or give a good detailed explanation,
>> showing how to measure a length of wire using PWM.
>>
>> It's not my field, so educate me!
>>
>> --
>> - Frank Krygowski
> You don't know anything about it but "post a link" that explains it to you?

Yes. I do that with mechanical engineering stuff from time to time. You
should be able to do it with electronic stuff.

> Electron "drift" in a wire is about 1 mm per second. All you do is either use signal reflection (which isn't very good in lengthy wires) or better to connect two of the wires together (telephone cables have four wires in the cable) and apply a signal to one end.You look at the other end with an oscilloscope and use PWM until the pulses perfectly overlap and measure the time and multiply by 1 mm per second and then count the time of the pulse width and divide by two' Why this is so difficult...

Oddly, so far I can't find any online justification of that method.
Instead, I find things like this:

https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/how-to-locate-underground-faults-on-cable

Nothing you described is listed as part of their methods. I wonder why.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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On 2/11/2024 3:37 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 8:30:11 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 2/11/2024 11:01 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 5:17:18 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>> On 2/10/2024 3:17 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, why don't you tell us who your employer is?
>>>>>
>>>> I'll do that after you show a link to a piece of test equipment that
>>>> uses PWM to test cables (and no, TDR testers do not use PWM as the
>>>> signal source).
>>>
>>> Dumber and dumber - you're telling me what test equipment I build for a business I was co-owner of.
>> No, stupid, I'm saying you're lying about it. You never designed any
>> test equipment, let alone for any business you allegedly co-owned. Show
>> a link to a piece of test equipment that uses PWM to test cables, and
>> I'll post my Linkedin page.
>>>
>>> By the way, you said you only publish once or twice a day.
>> No, I didn't. Try reading for what I wrote rather than what you wanted
>> me to write.
>>> This is the third time in the last three hours
>> It's also sunday, dumbass.
>>> and this is probably your home account while Flunkmeister is you business account.
>> If you had any clue about how this interweb thingie works you'd know
>> I've been posting exclusively from my Thunderbird account for a while
>> now, regardless of the time of day. You'd also know I was posting
>> exclusively through Google Groups until I installed Thunderbird on both
>> my home and work machines, regardless of the time of day. You do know
>> that Thunderbird is a proxy, right?
>>> Why don't you tell us your employer so that we can ask him to decide?
>> I'll do that after you show a link to a piece of test equipment that
>> uses PWM to test cables (and no, TDR testers do not use PWM as the
>> signal source).
>> Or will you just continue to claim to be the richest and most famous
>> electronics engineer/'senior business consultant' no one has ever heard of?
>
> Just because you cannot understand how you could measure the length of a piece of wire with PWM it doesn't exist.

That's true, and I stated exactly that a number of times. I believe I
wrote "I can certainly conceive of how it's done, but it's not a common
method and there is no test equipment designed to test cable using PWM".

> Neither did anyone ever call Fiber optics "light lines until you were showed it and even then you denied it. https://www.fiberopticstech.com/products/light-lines/

No, tommy, Your claim was that it's a common;y used term in telecom,
used by AT&T technicians. It isn't. The link you showed is a trade name
for an illumination 'light pipe'. Not telecom fiber optics.

I repeat - _NO ONE_ uses the term 'light lines' to describe fiber optics
in telecom. That has been my claim all along since you first made the
assinine statement, and you still haven't proven it wrong.

> Didn't you just say that you only posted once a day? So you're lying about that as well.

No, tommy, I never wrote that I post only once a day.

> Mr. Electronics Engineer who can't make a living at it wants to tell us about things he can't understand. "Give me proof?" Kiss my ass you nobody.

In other words, you can't give proof because there is none. The
challenge still stands - show a link to a piece of test equipment that
uses PWM to test cables and I'll post my Linkedin account.

> Go talk to Liebermann, you and he have held equal jobs. Barely a technician level. In fact, I am insulting technicians putting you and Liebermann in the same class as a good technician. As for wealthy, you can't even rise to the level of making a decent living and it is plain why.

lol...sure thing sparky. I'm so broke I have out regular two vacations
planned this year - we're going to Aruba for a change instead of
Martha's Vinyard this year in the spring, and in late summer we're
taking our regular weeklong trip Alton near Winnipesake. Where is the
rich and famous tommy the genius going on vacation?

lol...silly tommy - flailing about in arrogant ignorance.

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 by: zen cycle - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:49 UTC

On 2/11/2024 3:52 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 2/11/2024 3:37 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>> Just because you cannot understand how you could measure the length of
>> a piece of wire with PWM it doesn't exist.
>
> To be impartial, I'm going to agree with that statement of Tom's, at
> least in general. Any one of us will have technical points they may not
> understand. None of us knows everything.

I've stated several times I can conceive of how one would do it. That
wasn't the point. He claimed it was a "common method". It isn't. In
fact, it's so uncommon, no one measure cable length using PWM. Just
because one can do something doesn't mean they should.

>
> However, based on their posts, it looks to me that Zen understands quite
> a bit more about such things than Tom does.
>
> Still, if Tom is correct, he can gain a big increase in respect by doing
> something simple: Post a good link, or give a good detailed explanation,
> showing how to measure a length of wire using PWM.
>
> It's not my field, so educate me!

This should be fun....lol

>

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From: funkmasterxx@hotmail.com (zen cycle)
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 by: zen cycle - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:56 UTC

On 2/11/2024 4:58 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:52:38 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 2/11/2024 3:37 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>> Just because you cannot understand how you could measure the length of a piece of wire with PWM it doesn't exist.
>> To be impartial, I'm going to agree with that statement of Tom's, at
>> least in general. Any one of us will have technical points they may not
>> understand. None of us knows everything.
>>
>> However, based on their posts, it looks to me that Zen understands quite
>> a bit more about such things than Tom does.
>>
>> Still, if Tom is correct, he can gain a big increase in respect by doing
>> something simple: Post a good link, or give a good detailed explanation,
>> showing how to measure a length of wire using PWM.
>>
>> It's not my field, so educate me!
>>
>> --
>> - Frank Krygowski

LOL... I thought this would be good. REad on Frnak.

> You don't know anything about it but "post a link" that explains it to you? Electron "drift" in a wire is about 1 mm per second.

Too bad "electron drift" has absolutely nothing to do with this. Tommy's
actually referring to "Drift Velocity", but as usual he gets his terms
confused, much like he confused PWM with TDR, (then didn't recall what
the initialism TDR actually means). BTW, drift velocity in a copper wire
is generally in the micrometer per second range, not millimeters/sec.

> All you do is either use signal reflection (which isn't very good in lengthy wires) or better to connect two of the wires together (telephone cables have four wires in the cable) and apply a signal to one end.You look at the other end with an oscilloscope and use PWM until the pulses perfectly overlap and measure the time and multiply by 1 mm per second and then count the time of the pulse width and divide by two'

oh.
dear.
gawd.

Complete nonsense.

1) no tommy, that isn't PWM. For the (probably) 20th time, PWM is a
constant signal with a varying pulse width used for motor and lighting
controls. Varying individual pulses manually and measuring some aspect
of the transmitted signal isn't PWM. Even if you use equipment that
automates the process, that isn't PWM.

2) You're referring to propagation delay of a cable and that's not how
its done. You don't need to vary the pulse width or any other aspect of
the signal, you simply compare the source (using it a scope trigger) the
measure the delay of the signal on the other end.

3) You don't use electron drift in the calculation, you use propagation
delay values for that type of cable. A good propagation delay
guesstimate for copper wire is ~5 ns/m, but that can be affected by the
type of cable (twisted pairs like tommy is blathering about may have an
appreciable longer propagation because of the EM field set up by the
twisted wires (affects inductive impedance vector)) . For longer cables
it's good to get that information from the manufacturer, and yes, it's
readily available.

4) Using a signal source that generates a pulse stream at one end of the
cable and then monitoring the signal at the other end won't result in
multiple pulses showing up at the 'received' end unless your 'scope
triggering isn't set right. IOW, you won't get multiple pulses that can
be aligned by varying the pulse width. You would have to monitor your
source and even then due to the propagation delay of the cable you will
never get the pulses to align.

> Why this is so difficult that not only does the great brain of Flunky fail to understand that but he cannot even conceive of it. But he claims to be an EE and this somehow bypasses his understanding.

You're right tommy, I couldn't conceive of such an insanely stupid and
wrong method. What you've described simply won't work according to the
laws of physics in this universe, but we do know the laws of physics
don't exactly apply in tommyworld, where a dent can be ridden out of a
top tube and tire sealant pools in the bottom of a tire while the bike
is moving.

> We measured rolls of wire in feet and needed to know how much wire was left in the 100 or 500 foot roll so we calculated .003834 feet in 1 mm.

Yes tommy, 1mm = .003834 feet. Too bad that really has nothing to do
with how you electrically measure the length of a cable.

> So much for that vaunted knowledge of Flunky.

Get back to me when you can come up with a _plausible_ method. I know of
one using rise time of the PWM pulses via the impedance vector of the
cable (as I mentioned, I can conceive of a way to do it, but measuring
propagation delay is much easier, faster, and more accurate), but I
obviously gave you too much credit to come up with that instead of some
inane 'pulse alignment' nonsense.

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On 2/11/2024 4:00 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 8:17:43 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>> On 2/11/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 4:55:29 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
>>>> On 2/10/2024 3:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> On Wed Jan 31 05:47:34 2024 zen cycle wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Flunky want everyone to believe that he is rich and famous.
>>>> No tommy, I've stated exactly the opposite. You're the one making
>>>> outlandish claims for being a rich and famous world-class designer.
>>>>> The belt pack that Charley Butten got the Emmy for was thought up by kim but I designed and programmed it.
>>>> lol...complete bullshit, outlandish lie. This beltpack you're thinking
>>>> of was designed in the late 60's and was completely analog you fucking
>>>> idiot, there was no programming involved. From your link:
>>>>
>>>> "What started as a project with a frying pan in a bathroom sink
>>>> eventually became the first distributed amplifier analog beltpack
>>>> system, and by 1968, Charlie and Bob had established the Clear-Com
>>>> business in San Francisco. The original RS-100 was used by such groups
>>>> as Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, and the Grateful Dead as part of
>>>> their touring systems, and that exposure led to later versions being
>>>> adopted by many production crews in various music venues all over the
>>>> world."
>>>>
>>>> If you're going to lie about something, at least make it plausible. You
>>>> had no involvement whatsoever with the product that started ClearCom,
>>>> let alone being on Mr. Buttens design team in the late 60's.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The Idiot idea of his that using the built in A-D converter on the pool leak detector shows that he is useless. He thinks that one part in 1024 i9s as good as one part in 17 million. .
>>>>
>>>> No, you stupid fuck, I never wrote that. I wrote that a ten bit A/D is
>>>> more than adequate for that application. If you really had any
>>>> understanding of a/d techniques, you'd understand that.
>>>>> What's more I A-D just found a written response to Charlie asking him to add that external A-D but to run it at 6.9 MHz clock for maximum sensitivity.
>>>> I'll address that typo in the message where you admitted it (6.9 hz
>>>> sampling rate.....omfg!) but you have no correspondence from Mr. Butten.
>>>> It's another outlandish lie. If it's true, post it a link showing this
>>>> "written response".
>>>>
>>>> How do we know this is just another of your lies? simple. At first you
>>>> were claiming there was no external A/D. After I proved there was in
>>>> fact an external A/D using code you allegedly wrote, you're now claiming
>>>> _your_ are the one who asked him to design the external A/D into the
>>>> design.
>>>>> Your pretences to know design or programming is laughable.
>>>> LOL...says the guy that thinks thermostats don't have hysteresis, cables
>>>> are tested with PWM, TDR stands for 'time delay reflection'....talk
>>>> about laughable!!!!!
>>>>> You know not one single thing about electrical conduction from pool leaks and are telling us all that an external A-D is unnecessary.
>>>> An external A/D is completely unnecessary in that application. Nothing
>>>> you've written here suggests otherwise.
>>>
>>> Hey stupid, analog has to be separately wired.
>> LOL...sure skippy, that's why the PIC18F45K22 not only has a dedicated
>> analog A/D input for the internal A/D, it also has 28 discreet
>> configurable analog input pins.
>>> Do you even understand the term "later versions"?
>> Gee, maybe that's why I have the title "Principal Sustaining and
>> Compliance Engineer" - because they want someone who doesn't have a clue
>> about such lofty concepts as 'product roadmaps' and 'continuous product
>> improvement'.
>>> And while Charlies had two or three channels mine had 16. Though I'm sure you don't know why.
>> <sarcasm> Gee, multiple channels for live event coordination, why would
>> anyone need more than one channel for that? </sarcasm>
>>> I didn't work for Clear Com for very long since they wanted a static product line.
>> lol...sure, they fired you for wanting to innovate....yeah, that sounds
>> like something ClearCom would do, never develop a new product!
>>
>> No, Tommy, no one believes Clearcom's business model is/was a static
>> product line. Like all your other jobs, you were fired for being an
>> inept asshole, and it starts with things like "PWM is commonly used to
>> test cables" and 'TDR = time delay reflection'.
>>
>> Isn't there a bike repair you should be fucking up right about now?
>
> Now you have reached the level of incompetence that is laughable. You cannot even CONCIEVE of why you might need multiple channels on an intercom. https://www.clearcom.com/Product/category/base-stations/bs210?id=2390 exactly why do you suppose they have multiple channels? According to Flunky everyone on a movie set needs to know what everyone else is doing. Flunky, you are a ridiculous fool.

lol...WHOOSH

Let me help you out by reposting what I wrote:

<sarcasm> Gee, multiple channels for live event coordination, why would
anyone need more than one channel for that? </sarcasm>

get it this time?

C'mon tommy, Tell us of your latest bicycle mechanic fuck-up. I need a
good laugh for the week.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Mon, 12 Feb 2024 16:08 UTC

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 8:17:43 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> On 2/11/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 4:55:29 AM UTC-8, zen cycle wrote:
> >> On 2/10/2024 3:05 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Wed Jan 31 05:47:34 2024 zen cycle wrote:
> >>>> On 1/30/2024 10:56 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-texas-has-till-end-of-day-to-remove-razor-wire-or-else-frinlerbagsuzzit-dorblelerg
> >>>>
> >>>> LOL...tommy thinks babylon bee is a news source...which explains a lot.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Flunky want everyone to believe that he is rich and famous.
> >> No tommy, I've stated exactly the opposite. You're the one making
> >> outlandish claims for being a rich and famous world-class designer.
> >>> The belt pack that Charley Butten got the Emmy for was thought up by kim but I designed and programmed it.
> >> lol...complete bullshit, outlandish lie. This beltpack you're thinking
> >> of was designed in the late 60's and was completely analog you fucking
> >> idiot, there was no programming involved. From your link:
> >>
> >> "What started as a project with a frying pan in a bathroom sink
> >> eventually became the first distributed amplifier analog beltpack
> >> system, and by 1968, Charlie and Bob had established the Clear-Com
> >> business in San Francisco. The original RS-100 was used by such groups
> >> as Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, and the Grateful Dead as part of
> >> their touring systems, and that exposure led to later versions being
> >> adopted by many production crews in various music venues all over the
> >> world."
> >>
> >> If you're going to lie about something, at least make it plausible. You
> >> had no involvement whatsoever with the product that started ClearCom,
> >> let alone being on Mr. Buttens design team in the late 60's.
> >>
> >>
> >>> The Idiot idea of his that using the built in A-D converter on the pool leak detector shows that he is useless. He thinks that one part in 1024 i9s as good as one part in 17 million. .
> >>
> >> No, you stupid fuck, I never wrote that. I wrote that a ten bit A/D is
> >> more than adequate for that application. If you really had any
> >> understanding of a/d techniques, you'd understand that.
> >>> What's more I A-D just found a written response to Charlie asking him to add that external A-D but to run it at 6.9 MHz clock for maximum sensitivity.
> >> I'll address that typo in the message where you admitted it (6.9 hz
> >> sampling rate.....omfg!) but you have no correspondence from Mr. Butten.
> >> It's another outlandish lie. If it's true, post it a link showing this
> >> "written response".
> >>
> >> How do we know this is just another of your lies? simple. At first you
> >> were claiming there was no external A/D. After I proved there was in
> >> fact an external A/D using code you allegedly wrote, you're now claiming
> >> _your_ are the one who asked him to design the external A/D into the
> >> design.
> >>> Your pretences to know design or programming is laughable.
> >> LOL...says the guy that thinks thermostats don't have hysteresis, cables
> >> are tested with PWM, TDR stands for 'time delay reflection'....talk
> >> about laughable!!!!!
> >>> You know not one single thing about electrical conduction from pool leaks and are telling us all that an external A-D is unnecessary.
> >> An external A/D is completely unnecessary in that application. Nothing
> >> you've written here suggests otherwise.
> >
> > Hey stupid, analog has to be separately wired.
> LOL...sure skippy, that's why the PIC18F45K22 not only has a dedicated
> analog A/D input for the internal A/D, it also has 28 discreet
> configurable analog input pins.
> > Do you even understand the term "later versions"?
> Gee, maybe that's why I have the title "Principal Sustaining and
> Compliance Engineer" - because they want someone who doesn't have a clue
> about such lofty concepts as 'product roadmaps' and 'continuous product
> improvement'.
> > And while Charlies had two or three channels mine had 16. Though I'm sure you don't know why.
> <sarcasm> Gee, multiple channels for live event coordination, why would
> anyone need more than one channel for that? </sarcasm>
> > I didn't work for Clear Com for very long since they wanted a static product line.
> lol...sure, they fired you for wanting to innovate....yeah, that sounds
> like something ClearCom would do, never develop a new product!
>
> No, Tommy, no one believes Clearcom's business model is/was a static
> product line. Like all your other jobs, you were fired for being an
> inept asshole, and it starts with things like "PWM is commonly used to
> test cables" and 'TDR = time delay reflection'.
>
> Isn't there a bike repair you should be fucking up right about now?
You;re the only one in the world who believes that a 10 bit A-D is as sensitive as a 24 Bit A-D. I don't even have to rebut you. You declare to the world your ignorance.


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