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* NYC cyclist fatally dooredAMuzi
`* Re: NYC cyclist fatally dooredJohn B.
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 |`- Re: NYC cyclist fatally dooredJohn B.
 `- Re: NYC cyclist fatally dooredFrank Krygowski

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From: am@yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: NYC cyclist fatally doored
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:18:14 -0600
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 by: AMuzi - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 15:18 UTC

https://nypost.com/2024/02/28/us-news/mercedes-passenger-cyclist-killed-in-separate-nyc-crashes-just-a-block-apart-cops/
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From: slocombjb@gmail.com (John B.)
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Subject: Re: NYC cyclist fatally doored
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 by: John B. - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 22:56 UTC

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:18:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>https://nypost.com/2024/02/28/us-news/mercedes-passenger-cyclist-killed-in-separate-nyc-crashes-just-a-block-apart-cops/

Gee... if we get rid of the Mercedes and the bicycles there will be no
more accidents ???
--
Cheers,

John B.

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From: am@yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
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Subject: Re: NYC cyclist fatally doored
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 by: AMuzi - Thu, 29 Feb 2024 23:55 UTC

On 2/29/2024 4:56 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:18:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> https://nypost.com/2024/02/28/us-news/mercedes-passenger-cyclist-killed-in-separate-nyc-crashes-just-a-block-apart-cops/
>
> Gee... if we get rid of the Mercedes and the bicycles there will be no
> more accidents ???

Speaking as a cyclist, I'd say the bongs and text function
on telephones are more of a problem.

Once long ago the SOBs mostly stayed in their own lane.
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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From: frkrygow@sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
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Subject: Re: NYC cyclist fatally doored
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 by: Frank Krygowski - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 02:53 UTC

On 2/29/2024 5:56 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:18:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> https://nypost.com/2024/02/28/us-news/mercedes-passenger-cyclist-killed-in-separate-nyc-crashes-just-a-block-apart-cops/
>
> Gee... if we get rid of the Mercedes and the bicycles there will be no
> more accidents ???

If we get rid of bike lanes in door zones, there will be fewer of those
particular accidents.

From the article, it wasn't clear to me whether the rider was in a bike
lane or not. But there are many bike lanes painted in door zones, and
the number continues to grow. It's part of the philosophy that "Any bike
facility is a good bike facility."

The magnitude of the "dooring" danger is often unrecognized, in part
because the accident reporting forms cause analysts to usually omit
doorings. Why? Because they are not considered "a collision between
vehicles in transport." I know people that have worked mightily to
change that recording glitch, but have not yet succeeded.

But information has come out in recent years that in large cities,
doorings can be about one quarter of all car-bike crashes. That's a huge
proportion. And as the incident above shows, they can be fatal.

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- Frank Krygowski

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Subject: Re: NYC cyclist fatally doored
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 by: John B. - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 03:19 UTC

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 17:55:16 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 2/29/2024 4:56 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 09:18:14 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>> https://nypost.com/2024/02/28/us-news/mercedes-passenger-cyclist-killed-in-separate-nyc-crashes-just-a-block-apart-cops/
>>
>> Gee... if we get rid of the Mercedes and the bicycles there will be no
>> more accidents ???
>
>Speaking as a cyclist, I'd say the bongs and text function
>on telephones are more of a problem.
>
>Once long ago the SOBs mostly stayed in their own lane.

Somewhere I read that the most common cause of auto "accidents" was
inattention by the driver.

Given that some studies have shown that a large percent of bike
accidents are actually caused by the Cyclist I wonder if the same
problem exists there. The rather recent mention of the Garman
(spelling?) things on bikes.
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Cheers,

John B.

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