"Especially our really youngest members on tiny little bikes - they
really struggle when the track's been damaged like that."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-68798754

THERE OUGHTTA BE LAW!!!!

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Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Especially our really youngest members on tiny little bikes - they
> really struggle when the track's been damaged like that."
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-68798754
>
> THERE OUGHTTA BE LAW!!!!
>
If it’s off road sadly the law isn’t that strong ie that some of these are
almost certainly unregulated electric motorbikes unless they ride on the
road or similar the law isn’t particularly strong. Even the damage is
likely to be hard to enforce.

Roger Merriman

On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:52:29 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Especially our really youngest members on tiny little bikes - they
>> really struggle when the track's been damaged like that."
>>
>> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-68798754
>>
>> THERE OUGHTTA BE LAW!!!!
>>
>If it’s off road sadly the law isn’t that strong ie that some of these are
>almost certainly unregulated electric motorbikes unless they ride on the
>road or similar the law isn’t particularly strong. Even the damage is
>likely to be hard to enforce.
>
>Roger Merriman

I had a moron pass me on a a big fat tire e-bike today. I was doing
about 15 MPH and he must have been doing 30. Was I wrong to wish that
he would lose control and go into the ditch?

On 4/15/2024 6:27 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:52:29 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Especially our really youngest members on tiny little bikes - they
>>> really struggle when the track's been damaged like that."
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-68798754
>>>
>>> THERE OUGHTTA BE LAW!!!!
>>>
>> If it’s off road sadly the law isn’t that strong ie that some of these are
>> almost certainly unregulated electric motorbikes unless they ride on the
>> road or similar the law isn’t particularly strong. Even the damage is
>> likely to be hard to enforce.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
> I had a moron pass me on a a big fat tire e-bike today. I was doing
> about 15 MPH and he must have been doing 30. Was I wrong to wish that
> he would lose control and go into the ditch?

There's probably a place for psychokinesis, which is a skill
I do not have. sigh.
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 18:55:23 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 4/15/2024 6:27 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:52:29 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Especially our really youngest members on tiny little bikes - they
>>>> really struggle when the track's been damaged like that."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-68798754
>>>>
>>>> THERE OUGHTTA BE LAW!!!!
>>>>
>>> If it’s off road sadly the law isn’t that strong ie that some of these are
>>> almost certainly unregulated electric motorbikes unless they ride on the
>>> road or similar the law isn’t particularly strong. Even the damage is
>>> likely to be hard to enforce.
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>
>> I had a moron pass me on a a big fat tire e-bike today. I was doing
>> about 15 MPH and he must have been doing 30. Was I wrong to wish that
>> he would lose control and go into the ditch?
>
>There's probably a place for psychokinesis, which is a skill
>I do not have. sigh.

Rearview the Singapore laws regarding electric bikes. It is possible
to control them albeit through rigorous law enforcement which might
not be acceptable in the U.S.
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Cheers,

John B.

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:52:29 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Especially our really youngest members on tiny little bikes - they
>>> really struggle when the track's been damaged like that."
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-68798754
>>>
>>> THERE OUGHTTA BE LAW!!!!
>>>
>> If it’s off road sadly the law isn’t that strong ie that some of these are
>> almost certainly unregulated electric motorbikes unless they ride on the
>> road or similar the law isn’t particularly strong. Even the damage is
>> likely to be hard to enforce.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
> I had a moron pass me on a a big fat tire e-bike today. I was doing
> about 15 MPH and he must have been doing 30. Was I wrong to wish that
> he would lose control and go into the ditch?
>

I’ve only seen those around town almost always very cheap used as delivery
riders and similar.

As ever they tend to announce themselves to the police and have their bikes
seized now and then.

On road it’s an illegal motorcycle without insurance/tax and so on. I have
seen them on leisure trails though I suspect they were like myself using
the trail for the commute, though generally only see them once or twice as
such places are useful pleasant routes but tend to not allow fast passage
as lots of dog walkers and so on. Which is their original point so fair
enough.

Roger Merriman

On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 08:14:05 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
wrote:

>Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:52:29 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Especially our really youngest members on tiny little bikes - they
>>>> really struggle when the track's been damaged like that."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-68798754
>>>>
>>>> THERE OUGHTTA BE LAW!!!!
>>>>
>>> If it?s off road sadly the law isn?t that strong ie that some of these are
>>> almost certainly unregulated electric motorbikes unless they ride on the
>>> road or similar the law isn?t particularly strong. Even the damage is
>>> likely to be hard to enforce.
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>
>> I had a moron pass me on a a big fat tire e-bike today. I was doing
>> about 15 MPH and he must have been doing 30. Was I wrong to wish that
>> he would lose control and go into the ditch?
>>
>
>I’ve only seen those around town almost always very cheap used as delivery
>riders and similar.
>
>As ever they tend to announce themselves to the police and have their bikes
>seized now and then.
>
>On road it’s an illegal motorcycle without insurance/tax and so on. I have
>seen them on leisure trails though I suspect they were like myself using
>the trail for the commute, though generally only see them once or twice as
>such places are useful pleasant routes but tend to not allow fast passage
>as lots of dog walkers and so on. Which is their original point so fair
>enough.
>
>Roger Merriman

The Ebike that went whizzing past me on the bike trail had a very big
frame and what looked like motorcycle tires. It was early afternoon
and and I doubt he was on any kind of commute. Florida law says
e-bikes must be limited to 28 MPH.

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 08:14:05 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:52:29 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Especially our really youngest members on tiny little bikes - they
>>>>> really struggle when the track's been damaged like that."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-68798754
>>>>>
>>>>> THERE OUGHTTA BE LAW!!!!
>>>>>
>>>> If it?s off road sadly the law isn?t that strong ie that some of these are
>>>> almost certainly unregulated electric motorbikes unless they ride on the
>>>> road or similar the law isn?t particularly strong. Even the damage is
>>>> likely to be hard to enforce.
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>> I had a moron pass me on a a big fat tire e-bike today. I was doing
>>> about 15 MPH and he must have been doing 30. Was I wrong to wish that
>>> he would lose control and go into the ditch?
>>>
>>
>> I’ve only seen those around town almost always very cheap used as delivery
>> riders and similar.
>>
>> As ever they tend to announce themselves to the police and have their bikes
>> seized now and then.
>>
>> On road it’s an illegal motorcycle without insurance/tax and so on. I have
>> seen them on leisure trails though I suspect they were like myself using
>> the trail for the commute, though generally only see them once or twice as
>> such places are useful pleasant routes but tend to not allow fast passage
>> as lots of dog walkers and so on. Which is their original point so fair
>> enough.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
> The Ebike that went whizzing past me on the bike trail had a very big
> frame and what looked like motorcycle tires. It was early afternoon
> and and I doubt he was on any kind of commute. Florida law says
> e-bikes must be limited to 28 MPH.
>
Fat bike tires ie 26x4.8 are fairly huge even my MTB tires with 2.4’s are
fairly large compared to MTB I used last century.

Equally are some cheap or not so cheap electric motorbikes around which
probably make sense ie high torque (and quieter) the range or more to the
point slow charging isn’t a problem for that useage.

Roger Merriman

On 4/16/2024 3:14 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
> Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Apr 2024 19:52:29 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Especially our really youngest members on tiny little bikes - they
>>>> really struggle when the track's been damaged like that."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-68798754
>>>>
>>>> THERE OUGHTTA BE LAW!!!!
>>>>
>>> If it’s off road sadly the law isn’t that strong ie that some of these are
>>> almost certainly unregulated electric motorbikes unless they ride on the
>>> road or similar the law isn’t particularly strong. Even the damage is
>>> likely to be hard to enforce.
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>
>> I had a moron pass me on a a big fat tire e-bike today. I was doing
>> about 15 MPH and he must have been doing 30. Was I wrong to wish that
>> he would lose control and go into the ditch?
>>
>
> I’ve only seen those around town almost always very cheap used as delivery
> riders and similar.
>
> As ever they tend to announce themselves to the police and have their bikes
> seized now and then.
>
> On road it’s an illegal motorcycle without insurance/tax and so on. I have
> seen them on leisure trails though I suspect they were like myself using
> the trail for the commute, though generally only see them once or twice as
> such places are useful pleasant routes but tend to not allow fast passage
> as lots of dog walkers and so on. Which is their original point so fair
> enough.
>
> Roger Merriman
>

A lot of those in my area, mostly 20x4 tires, many with
folding frame. They are inexpensive at hardware and sporting
goods stores and generally of pathetically low quality.
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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971