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* Promoting the “Cult” of EinsteinRichard Hertz
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|`* Re: Promoting the “Cult” of EinsteinLaurence Clark Crossen
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Even Einstein disliked his new role, but he had to pay to his masters:

https://isidore.co/CalibreLibrary/Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20(4709)/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20-%20Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon.pdf

*************************************
In an epiphany of Saint Einstein, Jewish journalist Alexander Moszkowski
wrote to Albert Einstein on 1 February 1917,

“Regardless of what happens, I would like to continue the ‘cult’; for you it
is secondary, for me, it is of paramount importance in life. Additionally, I
have the encouraging feeling that, with my modest writing abilities, I may
also serve the cause once in a while.”3

Moszkowski used his writing talents to make Einstein a superstar. In
October 1919, Moszkowski fulfilled his promise to Einstein to promote
the “cult” of Einstein, and began the international “Einstein mania”, which
peaked in November and December 1919.

Einstein knew that the newspaper hype was disingenuous and distasteful,
but he blamed the public for the hype his racist Jewish friends had
manufactured. In mid-December, 1919, Einstein wrote to his friend and
confidant Heinrich Zangger,

“The newspaper drivel about me is pathetic; this kind of exaggeration meets
a certain need among the public. Really, a harmless ideology.”4

On 24 December 1919, Einstein wrote to Zangger and justified the lies as
“harmless tomfoolery”,

“[T]his business reminds one of the tale of ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes,’
but it is a harmless tomfoolery. [***] The disparity between what you are and
what others believe, or at least, say about you, is far too great.”

**********

Do Not Blaspheme the “Jewish Saint”

When Einstein arrived in America in early April of 1921, shortly after Einstein,
himself, declared that anyone who disagreed with him must ipso facto be
anti-Semitic, the Board of Aldermen of the City of New York met to vote on a
proposal to grant Chaim Weizmann and Albert Einstein the “freedom of the
city”.

Alderman Bruce M. Falconer voted against the proposal and was
immediately assaulted, threatened with severe retaliation and smeared as
an “anti-Semite”—an accusation he emphatically denied. The New York
Times, which was owned by a Jewish publisher named Adolph S. Ochs,
published Alderman Falconer’s name, occupation, and home address,
on the front page together with the charges of anti-Semitism, a description
of the assault against him, and a report of the threats to destroy him, as
well as his denials of any prejudice.

Several stories describing the spectacle appeared in The New York Times,
beginning with 6 April 1921,
.....
At the request of Aldermanic President LaGuardia, Mayor Hylan has
called a special meeting of the Board for next Friday at 1:30 P. M., to take
action on the resolution.

‘I am expressing the feeling of the entire Board when I ask you to call
this meeting in order that the desires of the people of this city may be
carried out in extending this call to these distinguished people,’ he said
to the Mayor.

Professor Weizmann is President of the International Zionist
Organization, and, with Professor Einstein, M. M. Ussischkin and Dr.
Benzion Mossinson, is here to confer with American Zionists. They
were received at the City Hall yesterday by Mayor Hylan and a committee
of citizens. More than 5,000 Zionists filled the plaza in front of the City Hall.
......
Einstein wrote to Paul Ehrenfest on 12 April 1926,

“I do believe that in time this endeavor will grow into something splendid;
and, Jewish Saint that I am, my heart rejoices.”92

*******
RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.

AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE, WHICH ERODES THE VALUES AND
GROUNDS OF REAL SCIENCE. A FALLACIOUS FIELD OF PHILOSOPHY,
FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, FLAWS AND PARADOXES, WHICH HAS
BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.

TRY TO NAME ANY FIELD, AND CHECK WHO'S IN FRONT OF IT, RIGHT NOW.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Tue, 15 Aug 2023 17:14 UTC

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 1:57:31 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Even Einstein disliked his new role, but he had to pay to his masters:
>
> https://isidore.co/CalibreLibrary/Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20(4709)/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20-%20Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon.pdf
>
> *************************************

HISTORICAL REMARKS

Contrary to popular myth, Einstein did not usher in the atomic age. In fact, he found
the idea of atomic energy to be silly. Einstein was not the first person to state the
mass-energy equivalence, or E = mc2 .
................................
Einstein rarely gave filmed interviews, but when he did, he came across as
something considerably less than a “genius”. Einstein’s public appearances were
scripted as were his lectures. His public appearances were most often repetitions of
his lectures. He appeared oblivious to the distinction between an academic lecture
and a media event. He appeared rehearsed and incapable of adapting to his audience.

The New York Times reported on 17 June 1930 on page 3 that Einstein spoke at the
Kroll Opera House to 4,000 delegates of the World Power Conference. Einstein
lectured them on Physics, as if it were a class he was hosting. In an article titled,
“4,000 Bewildered as Einstein Speaks,” the New York Times reported,
“It was the first time Dr. Einstein had ever consented to speak on Einstein,
and it was the first serious public utterance he ever made without recourse to
gigantic equations and mystifying mathematics. [***]

He sometimes gestured with his hands, indicating how clear and obvious his reasoning
was, and occasionally he looked up from his paper to smile upon his intent E = mc2 hearers
who, he seemed to assume, were grasping everything.”

Einstein appeared to be an actor giving a performance. The physics community and the media
invented a comic book figure, “Einstein”, with “E = mc2 stenciled across his chest. The media
and educational institutions portray this surreal and farcical image as a benevolent god to watch
over us. Some modern portraits depict the man with a godly glow and all the other visual cues
inspiring reverence, which paintings of Jesus have long exploited.

Physics, as an institution, fostered the myth, and countless people in all walks of life have since
molded themselves in the comic book image of “Einstein”, replete with the Flammarion hairdo and
the Twainesque mustachio. “More Einsteinisch than he,” they pretend to the great “Einstein’s”
supposed supernatural powers, and imitate his comic book persona. For some, Einstein (often
together with Marx and Freud) is seen as a source of tremendous ethnic pride.

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Tue, 15 Aug 2023 17:25 UTC

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:57:31 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Even Einstein disliked his new role, but he had to pay to his masters:
>
> https://isidore.co/CalibreLibrary/Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20(4709)/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20-%20Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon.pdf
>
> *************************************
> In an epiphany of Saint Einstein, Jewish journalist Alexander Moszkowski
> wrote to Albert Einstein on 1 February 1917,
>
> “Regardless of what happens, I would like to continue the ‘cult’; for you it
> is secondary, for me, it is of paramount importance in life. Additionally, I
> have the encouraging feeling that, with my modest writing abilities, I may
> also serve the cause once in a while.”3
>
> Moszkowski used his writing talents to make Einstein a superstar. In
> October 1919, Moszkowski fulfilled his promise to Einstein to promote
> the “cult” of Einstein, and began the international “Einstein mania”, which
> peaked in November and December 1919.
>
> Einstein knew that the newspaper hype was disingenuous and distasteful,
> but he blamed the public for the hype his racist Jewish friends had
> manufactured. In mid-December, 1919, Einstein wrote to his friend and
> confidant Heinrich Zangger,
>
> “The newspaper drivel about me is pathetic; this kind of exaggeration meets
> a certain need among the public. Really, a harmless ideology.”4
>
> On 24 December 1919, Einstein wrote to Zangger and justified the lies as
> “harmless tomfoolery”,
>
> “[T]his business reminds one of the tale of ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes,’
> but it is a harmless tomfoolery. [***] The disparity between what you are and
> what others believe, or at least, say about you, is far too great.”
>
> **********
>
> Do Not Blaspheme the “Jewish Saint”
>
> When Einstein arrived in America in early April of 1921, shortly after Einstein,
> himself, declared that anyone who disagreed with him must ipso facto be
> anti-Semitic, the Board of Aldermen of the City of New York met to vote on a
> proposal to grant Chaim Weizmann and Albert Einstein the “freedom of the
> city”.
>
> Alderman Bruce M. Falconer voted against the proposal and was
> immediately assaulted, threatened with severe retaliation and smeared as
> an “anti-Semite”—an accusation he emphatically denied. The New York
> Times, which was owned by a Jewish publisher named Adolph S. Ochs,
> published Alderman Falconer’s name, occupation, and home address,
> on the front page together with the charges of anti-Semitism, a description
> of the assault against him, and a report of the threats to destroy him, as
> well as his denials of any prejudice.
>
> Several stories describing the spectacle appeared in The New York Times,
> beginning with 6 April 1921,
> ....
> At the request of Aldermanic President LaGuardia, Mayor Hylan has
> called a special meeting of the Board for next Friday at 1:30 P. M., to take
> action on the resolution.
>
> ‘I am expressing the feeling of the entire Board when I ask you to call
> this meeting in order that the desires of the people of this city may be
> carried out in extending this call to these distinguished people,’ he said
> to the Mayor.
>
> Professor Weizmann is President of the International Zionist
> Organization, and, with Professor Einstein, M. M. Ussischkin and Dr.
> Benzion Mossinson, is here to confer with American Zionists. They
> were received at the City Hall yesterday by Mayor Hylan and a committee
> of citizens. More than 5,000 Zionists filled the plaza in front of the City Hall.
> .....
> Einstein wrote to Paul Ehrenfest on 12 April 1926,
>
> “I do believe that in time this endeavor will grow into something splendid;
> and, Jewish Saint that I am, my heart rejoices.”92
>
> *******
> RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
>
> AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE, WHICH ERODES THE VALUES AND
> GROUNDS OF REAL SCIENCE. A FALLACIOUS FIELD OF PHILOSOPHY,
> FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, FLAWS AND PARADOXES, WHICH HAS
> BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
>
> TRY TO NAME ANY FIELD, AND CHECK WHO'S IN FRONT OF IT, RIGHT NOW.
FOR ANYONE WHO MISSED IT: Einstein wrote to Paul Ehrenfest on 12 April 1926,

“I do believe that in time this endeavor will grow into something splendid;
and, Jewish Saint that I am, my heart rejoices.”92

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On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:57:31 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Even Einstein disliked his new role, but he had to pay to his masters:
>
> https://isidore.co/CalibreLibrary/Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20(4709)/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20-%20Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon.pdf
>
> *************************************
> In an epiphany of Saint Einstein, Jewish journalist Alexander Moszkowski
> wrote to Albert Einstein on 1 February 1917,
>
> “Regardless of what happens, I would like to continue the ‘cult’; for you it
> is secondary, for me, it is of paramount importance in life. Additionally, I
> have the encouraging feeling that, with my modest writing abilities, I may
> also serve the cause once in a while.”3
>
> Moszkowski used his writing talents to make Einstein a superstar. In
> October 1919, Moszkowski fulfilled his promise to Einstein to promote
> the “cult” of Einstein, and began the international “Einstein mania”, which
> peaked in November and December 1919.
>
> Einstein knew that the newspaper hype was disingenuous and distasteful,
> but he blamed the public for the hype his racist Jewish friends had
> manufactured. In mid-December, 1919, Einstein wrote to his friend and
> confidant Heinrich Zangger,
>
> “The newspaper drivel about me is pathetic; this kind of exaggeration meets
> a certain need among the public. Really, a harmless ideology.”4
>
> On 24 December 1919, Einstein wrote to Zangger and justified the lies as
> “harmless tomfoolery”,
>
> “[T]his business reminds one of the tale of ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes,’
> but it is a harmless tomfoolery. [***] The disparity between what you are and
> what others believe, or at least, say about you, is far too great.”
>
> **********
>
> Do Not Blaspheme the “Jewish Saint”
>
> When Einstein arrived in America in early April of 1921, shortly after Einstein,
> himself, declared that anyone who disagreed with him must ipso facto be
> anti-Semitic, the Board of Aldermen of the City of New York met to vote on a
> proposal to grant Chaim Weizmann and Albert Einstein the “freedom of the
> city”.
>
> Alderman Bruce M. Falconer voted against the proposal and was
> immediately assaulted, threatened with severe retaliation and smeared as
> an “anti-Semite”—an accusation he emphatically denied. The New York
> Times, which was owned by a Jewish publisher named Adolph S. Ochs,
> published Alderman Falconer’s name, occupation, and home address,
> on the front page together with the charges of anti-Semitism, a description
> of the assault against him, and a report of the threats to destroy him, as
> well as his denials of any prejudice.
>
> Several stories describing the spectacle appeared in The New York Times,
> beginning with 6 April 1921,
> ....
> At the request of Aldermanic President LaGuardia, Mayor Hylan has
> called a special meeting of the Board for next Friday at 1:30 P. M., to take
> action on the resolution.
>
> ‘I am expressing the feeling of the entire Board when I ask you to call
> this meeting in order that the desires of the people of this city may be
> carried out in extending this call to these distinguished people,’ he said
> to the Mayor.
>
> Professor Weizmann is President of the International Zionist
> Organization, and, with Professor Einstein, M. M. Ussischkin and Dr.
> Benzion Mossinson, is here to confer with American Zionists. They
> were received at the City Hall yesterday by Mayor Hylan and a committee
> of citizens. More than 5,000 Zionists filled the plaza in front of the City Hall.
> .....
> Einstein wrote to Paul Ehrenfest on 12 April 1926,
>
> “I do believe that in time this endeavor will grow into something splendid;
> and, Jewish Saint that I am, my heart rejoices.”92
>
> *******
> RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
>
> AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE, WHICH ERODES THE VALUES AND
> GROUNDS OF REAL SCIENCE. A FALLACIOUS FIELD OF PHILOSOPHY,
> FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, FLAWS AND PARADOXES, WHICH HAS
> BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
>
> TRY TO NAME ANY FIELD, AND CHECK WHO'S IN FRONT OF IT, RIGHT NOW.
Thanks, but I already own it. I tried writing him an email and he cut off all communication because I said something in defense of Israel.

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Wed, 16 Aug 2023 03:22 UTC

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:57:31 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Even Einstein disliked his new role, but he had to pay to his masters:
>
> https://isidore.co/CalibreLibrary/Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20(4709)/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20-%20Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon.pdf
>
> *************************************
> In an epiphany of Saint Einstein, Jewish journalist Alexander Moszkowski
> wrote to Albert Einstein on 1 February 1917,
>
> “Regardless of what happens, I would like to continue the ‘cult’; for you it
> is secondary, for me, it is of paramount importance in life. Additionally, I
> have the encouraging feeling that, with my modest writing abilities, I may
> also serve the cause once in a while.”3
>
> Moszkowski used his writing talents to make Einstein a superstar. In
> October 1919, Moszkowski fulfilled his promise to Einstein to promote
> the “cult” of Einstein, and began the international “Einstein mania”, which
> peaked in November and December 1919.
>
> Einstein knew that the newspaper hype was disingenuous and distasteful,
> but he blamed the public for the hype his racist Jewish friends had
> manufactured. In mid-December, 1919, Einstein wrote to his friend and
> confidant Heinrich Zangger,
>
> “The newspaper drivel about me is pathetic; this kind of exaggeration meets
> a certain need among the public. Really, a harmless ideology.”4
>
> On 24 December 1919, Einstein wrote to Zangger and justified the lies as
> “harmless tomfoolery”,
>
> “[T]his business reminds one of the tale of ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes,’
> but it is a harmless tomfoolery. [***] The disparity between what you are and
> what others believe, or at least, say about you, is far too great.”
>
> **********
>
> Do Not Blaspheme the “Jewish Saint”
>
> When Einstein arrived in America in early April of 1921, shortly after Einstein,
> himself, declared that anyone who disagreed with him must ipso facto be
> anti-Semitic, the Board of Aldermen of the City of New York met to vote on a
> proposal to grant Chaim Weizmann and Albert Einstein the “freedom of the
> city”.
>
> Alderman Bruce M. Falconer voted against the proposal and was
> immediately assaulted, threatened with severe retaliation and smeared as
> an “anti-Semite”—an accusation he emphatically denied. The New York
> Times, which was owned by a Jewish publisher named Adolph S. Ochs,
> published Alderman Falconer’s name, occupation, and home address,
> on the front page together with the charges of anti-Semitism, a description
> of the assault against him, and a report of the threats to destroy him, as
> well as his denials of any prejudice.
>
> Several stories describing the spectacle appeared in The New York Times,
> beginning with 6 April 1921,
> ....
> At the request of Aldermanic President LaGuardia, Mayor Hylan has
> called a special meeting of the Board for next Friday at 1:30 P. M., to take
> action on the resolution.
>
> ‘I am expressing the feeling of the entire Board when I ask you to call
> this meeting in order that the desires of the people of this city may be
> carried out in extending this call to these distinguished people,’ he said
> to the Mayor.
>
> Professor Weizmann is President of the International Zionist
> Organization, and, with Professor Einstein, M. M. Ussischkin and Dr.
> Benzion Mossinson, is here to confer with American Zionists. They
> were received at the City Hall yesterday by Mayor Hylan and a committee
> of citizens. More than 5,000 Zionists filled the plaza in front of the City Hall.
> .....
> Einstein wrote to Paul Ehrenfest on 12 April 1926,
>
> “I do believe that in time this endeavor will grow into something splendid;
> and, Jewish Saint that I am, my heart rejoices.”92
>
> *******
> RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
>
> AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE, WHICH ERODES THE VALUES AND
> GROUNDS OF REAL SCIENCE. A FALLACIOUS FIELD OF PHILOSOPHY,
> FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, FLAWS AND PARADOXES, WHICH HAS
> BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
>
> TRY TO NAME ANY FIELD, AND CHECK WHO'S IN FRONT OF IT, RIGHT NOW.
For those who missed it, an extract: "On 24 December 1919, Einstein wrote to Zangger and justified the lies as
“harmless tomfoolery”,
“[T]his business reminds one of the tale of ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes,’
but it is a harmless tomfoolery. [***] The disparity between what you are and
what others believe, or at least, say about you, is far too great.” "

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 by: JanPB - Wed, 16 Aug 2023 07:57 UTC

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:57:31 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
>
> AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE, WHICH ERODES THE VALUES AND
> GROUNDS OF REAL SCIENCE. A FALLACIOUS FIELD OF PHILOSOPHY,
> FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, FLAWS AND PARADOXES, WHICH HAS
> BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.

Complete nonsense. You are just a pathetic little ignoramus.

--
Jan

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Wed, 16 Aug 2023 08:23 UTC

On 2023-08-16 07:57:59 +0000, JanPB said:

> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:57:31 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
>>
>> RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS> TRIED TO
>> DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.>> AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
>> WHICH ERODES THE VALUES AND> GROUNDS OF REAL SCIENCE. A FALLACIOUS
>> FIELD OF PHILOSOPHY,> FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, FLAWS AND PARADOXES,
>> WHICH HAS> BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF>
>> POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
> Complete nonsense. You are just a pathetic little ignoramus.

I think by "full of contradictions" he means full of things morons like
him can't understand.

--
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Wed, 16 Aug 2023 08:55 UTC

On Wednesday, 16 August 2023 at 10:23:48 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2023-08-16 07:57:59 +0000, JanPB said:
>
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:57:31 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> >>
> >> RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS> TRIED TO
> >> DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.>> AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
> >> WHICH ERODES THE VALUES AND> GROUNDS OF REAL SCIENCE. A FALLACIOUS
> >> FIELD OF PHILOSOPHY,> FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, FLAWS AND PARADOXES,
> >> WHICH HAS> BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF>
> >> POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
> > Complete nonsense. You are just a pathetic little ignoramus.
> I think by "full of contradictions" he means full of things morons like
> him can't understand.

Your beloved Shit has been proven inconsistent,
your rants and arm waving is not going to
change that. Face it, poor fanatic trash.

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 by: Laurence Clark Cross - Wed, 16 Aug 2023 23:44 UTC

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:14:42 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 1:57:31 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > Even Einstein disliked his new role, but he had to pay to his masters:
> >
> > https://isidore.co/CalibreLibrary/Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20(4709)/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20-%20Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon.pdf
> >
> > *************************************
> HISTORICAL REMARKS
>
> Contrary to popular myth, Einstein did not usher in the atomic age. In fact, he found
> the idea of atomic energy to be silly. Einstein was not the first person to state the
> mass-energy equivalence, or E = mc2 .
> ...............................
> Einstein rarely gave filmed interviews, but when he did, he came across as
> something considerably less than a “genius”. Einstein’s public appearances were
> scripted as were his lectures. His public appearances were most often repetitions of
> his lectures. He appeared oblivious to the distinction between an academic lecture
> and a media event. He appeared rehearsed and incapable of adapting to his audience.
>
> The New York Times reported on 17 June 1930 on page 3 that Einstein spoke at the
> Kroll Opera House to 4,000 delegates of the World Power Conference. Einstein
> lectured them on Physics, as if it were a class he was hosting. In an article titled,
> “4,000 Bewildered as Einstein Speaks,” the New York Times reported,
> “It was the first time Dr. Einstein had ever consented to speak on Einstein,
> and it was the first serious public utterance he ever made without recourse to
> gigantic equations and mystifying mathematics. [***]
>
> He sometimes gestured with his hands, indicating how clear and obvious his reasoning
> was, and occasionally he looked up from his paper to smile upon his intent E = mc2 hearers
> who, he seemed to assume, were grasping everything.”
>
> Einstein appeared to be an actor giving a performance. The physics community and the media
> invented a comic book figure, “Einstein”, with “E = mc2 stenciled across his chest. The media
> and educational institutions portray this surreal and farcical image as a benevolent god to watch
> over us. Some modern portraits depict the man with a godly glow and all the other visual cues
> inspiring reverence, which paintings of Jesus have long exploited.
>
> Physics, as an institution, fostered the myth, and countless people in all walks of life have since
> molded themselves in the comic book image of “Einstein”, replete with the Flammarion hairdo and
> the Twainesque mustachio. “More Einsteinisch than he,” they pretend to the great “Einstein’s”
> supposed supernatural powers, and imitate his comic book persona. For some, Einstein (often
> together with Marx and Freud) is seen as a source of tremendous ethnic pride.
In Christoph von Mettenheim's book, Popper versus Einstein p. 3 he says, "....like Whitehead and Russel, Einstein failed in his task... his personal misfortune was that in his field of science, there was no man like Kurt Godel to refute him. Instead, he was being applauded all over the world, and most of all by those who hardly understood where his problems lay, and what he was talking about. Hans Christian Andersen's tale of 'The Emperor's New Clothes' could have been written for him.... There was, of course, no lack of criticism when the theory of relativity was first published, and some of it persists...But this criticism came from a small minority and was quickly extinguished under heaps of mathematical formulae so complicated that sometimes even their authors could hardly understand them. And it did not come from the right quarter. The methodological premises of the theory or relativity were never seriously challenged."

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 by: JanPB - Thu, 17 Aug 2023 00:10 UTC

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 4:44:44 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:14:42 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 1:57:31 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > Even Einstein disliked his new role, but he had to pay to his masters:
> > >
> > > https://isidore.co/CalibreLibrary/Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20(4709)/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20-%20Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon.pdf
> > >
> > > *************************************
> > HISTORICAL REMARKS
> >
> > Contrary to popular myth, Einstein did not usher in the atomic age. In fact, he found
> > the idea of atomic energy to be silly. Einstein was not the first person to state the
> > mass-energy equivalence, or E = mc2 .
> > ...............................
> > Einstein rarely gave filmed interviews, but when he did, he came across as
> > something considerably less than a “genius”. Einstein’s public appearances were
> > scripted as were his lectures. His public appearances were most often repetitions of
> > his lectures. He appeared oblivious to the distinction between an academic lecture
> > and a media event. He appeared rehearsed and incapable of adapting to his audience.
> >
> > The New York Times reported on 17 June 1930 on page 3 that Einstein spoke at the
> > Kroll Opera House to 4,000 delegates of the World Power Conference. Einstein
> > lectured them on Physics, as if it were a class he was hosting. In an article titled,
> > “4,000 Bewildered as Einstein Speaks,” the New York Times reported,
> > “It was the first time Dr. Einstein had ever consented to speak on Einstein,
> > and it was the first serious public utterance he ever made without recourse to
> > gigantic equations and mystifying mathematics. [***]
> >
> > He sometimes gestured with his hands, indicating how clear and obvious his reasoning
> > was, and occasionally he looked up from his paper to smile upon his intent E = mc2 hearers
> > who, he seemed to assume, were grasping everything.”
> >
> > Einstein appeared to be an actor giving a performance. The physics community and the media
> > invented a comic book figure, “Einstein”, with “E = mc2 stenciled across his chest. The media
> > and educational institutions portray this surreal and farcical image as a benevolent god to watch
> > over us. Some modern portraits depict the man with a godly glow and all the other visual cues
> > inspiring reverence, which paintings of Jesus have long exploited.
> >
> > Physics, as an institution, fostered the myth, and countless people in all walks of life have since
> > molded themselves in the comic book image of “Einstein”, replete with the Flammarion hairdo and
> > the Twainesque mustachio. “More Einsteinisch than he,” they pretend to the great “Einstein’s”
> > supposed supernatural powers, and imitate his comic book persona. For some, Einstein (often
> > together with Marx and Freud) is seen as a source of tremendous ethnic pride.
>
> In Christoph von Mettenheim's book, Popper versus Einstein p. 3 he says, "...like Whitehead and Russel, Einstein failed in his task...

Another lawyer (we had those here too) fancying himself as a physicist.

> But this criticism came from a small minority and was quickly extinguished under heaps of mathematical formulae so
> complicated that sometimes even their authors could hardly understand them.

Yeah, we've heard it all before. A typical pseudoscientific monomaniac venting his frustrations of being
unable to follow the arguments.

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Jan

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On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
> RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
>
> AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
> WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.

The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?

You need E = mc², don't you?

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RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> > TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
> >
> > AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
> > WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> > POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
>
> The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
> pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?

Heisenberg ignored the Aryan scientists,
and went on teaching relativity and quantum mechanics anyway.
(but without mentioning Einstein by name)
Ignoring was no problem, they were all incompetents anyway.

In consequence the 'Aryans' accused him of being 'A white Jew'.
(someone who talks like a Jew even though he is not one racially)
So he could not get an appointment as successor to Somerfelt.

Heisenberg had recourse to Heinrich Himmler in person
to be declared 'A good German', in order to be appointed as professor.

Jan

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 by: Richard Hertz - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 21:53 UTC

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 4:35:16 PM UTC-3, RichD wrote:
> On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> > TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
> >
> > AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
> > WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> > POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
> The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
> pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?
>
> You need E = mc², don't you?
>
> --
> Rich

NO!
Ask Hahn, Rutherford, Geiger, Coulomb, Serber, Oppenheimer, Teller, Szilard, Fermi, Bloch, Franck, Segrè, Fuchs, Bethe, von Neumann,
Bainbridge, Alvarez, Kistiakowski, Rotblat, Seaborg, Compton, Chadwick, Urey, Bacher, Glau, Benedict, Bradbury, Muller, Reines,
Rainwater, Wigner, Quarterman, Karie, Delaney, Taylor, Omohundro, .........

Now ask the chief editor of Time Magazine in 1946,

EINSTEIN SIGNED TIME MAGAZINE JULY 1 1946
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-gb/price-result/einstein-signed-time-magazine-july-1-1946/

Yes, the cretin signed one cover.

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 by: Richard Hertz - Sat, 19 Aug 2023 21:59 UTC

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:19:17 PM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> > > TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
> > >
> > > AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
> > > WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> > > POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
> >
> > The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
> > pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?
> Heisenberg ignored the Aryan scientists,
> and went on teaching relativity and quantum mechanics anyway.
> (but without mentioning Einstein by name)
> Ignoring was no problem, they were all incompetents anyway.
>
> In consequence the 'Aryans' accused him of being 'A white Jew'.
> (someone who talks like a Jew even though he is not one racially)
> So he could not get an appointment as successor to Somerfelt.
>
> Heisenberg had recourse to Heinrich Himmler in person
> to be declared 'A good German', in order to be appointed as professor.
>
> Jan

Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo.
He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions by the ruling party about his private life.

He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping with his "beloved" children.

A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.

No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.

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On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:19:17 PM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> > > > TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
> > > >
> > > > AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
> > > > WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> > > > POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
> > >
> > > The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
> > > pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?
> > Heisenberg ignored the Aryan scientists,
> > and went on teaching relativity and quantum mechanics anyway.
> > (but without mentioning Einstein by name)
> > Ignoring was no problem, they were all incompetents anyway.
> >
> > In consequence the 'Aryans' accused him of being 'A white Jew'.
> > (someone who talks like a Jew even though he is not one racially)
> > So he could not get an appointment as successor to Somerfelt.
> >
> > Heisenberg had recourse to Heinrich Himmler in person
> > to be declared 'A good German', in order to be appointed as professor.
> >
> > Jan
> Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo.
> He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions by the ruling party about his private life.
>
> He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping with his "beloved" children.
>
> A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.
>
> No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.

You make up stuff about everything and anything.

--
Jan

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JanPB wrote:
>
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:19:17 PM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> > > > > TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
> > > > >
> > > > > AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
> > > > > WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> > > > > POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
> > > >
> > > > The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
> > > > pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?
> > > Heisenberg ignored the Aryan scientists,
> > > and went on teaching relativity and quantum mechanics anyway.
> > > (but without mentioning Einstein by name)
> > > Ignoring was no problem, they were all incompetents anyway.
> > >
> > > In consequence the 'Aryans' accused him of being 'A white Jew'.
> > > (someone who talks like a Jew even though he is not one racially)
> > > So he could not get an appointment as successor to Somerfelt.
> > >
> > > Heisenberg had recourse to Heinrich Himmler in person
> > > to be declared 'A good German', in order to be appointed as professor.
> > >
> > > Jan
> > Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo.
> > He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions by the ruling party about his private life.
> >
> > He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping with his "beloved" children.
> >
> > A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.
> >
> > No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.
>
> You make up stuff about everything and anything.
>
> --
> Jan

It's not make up stuff, engineers invent stuff and bring about their devious ideas using...deceit. dats what an engineer does...
he can not help himself.

but using phrases like "make up stuff" is childess...talk...babble. googbie goobily. gaga.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sun, 20 Aug 2023 08:38 UTC

JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:19:17?PM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> > > > > TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
> > > > >
> > > > > AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
> > > > > WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> > > > > POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
> > > >
> > > > The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
> > > > pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?
> > > Heisenberg ignored the Aryan scientists,
> > > and went on teaching relativity and quantum mechanics anyway.
> > > (but without mentioning Einstein by name)
> > > Ignoring was no problem, they were all incompetents anyway.
> > >
> > > In consequence the 'Aryans' accused him of being 'A white Jew'.
> > > (someone who talks like a Jew even though he is not one racially)
> > > So he could not get an appointment as successor to Somerfelt.
> > >
> > > Heisenberg had recourse to Heinrich Himmler in person
> > > to be declared 'A good German', in order to be appointed as professor.
> > >
> > > Jan
> > Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo.
> > Hemarried in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions by the ruling party
> > Heabout his private life.
> >
> > He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping
> > with his "beloved" children.
> >
> > A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK.
> > Eddington, by instance.
> >
> > No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always
> > a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.
>
> You make up stuff about everything and anything.

Yes, incredible, isn't it? He can't be trusted on anything at all.

For the kiddies: Heisenberg married at age 36, in 1937.
(RH has even the year wrong)
His wife was 13 years younger.
They had 7 children, over the next 12 years.
Good going, for a 'homosexual'.

Anyway, marrying late, to younger wives, was not unusual at all
in the upper classes, all over the western world.
(also in Hollywood, up to the sixties)

Men were supposed to marry after they had established themselves
in some secure position,

Jan

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 by: Richard Hertz - Sun, 20 Aug 2023 23:46 UTC

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:38:53 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:

> > > Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo. He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions
> > > by the ruling party
> > > He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping with his "beloved" children.
> > >
> > > A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.
> > >
> > > No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.
> >
> > You make up stuff about everything and anything.
> Yes, incredible, isn't it? He can't be trusted on anything at all.
>
> For the kiddies: Heisenberg married at age 36, in 1937.
> (RH has even the year wrong)
> His wife was 13 years younger.
> They had 7 children, over the next 12 years. Good going, for a 'homosexual'.
>
> Anyway, marrying late, to younger wives, was not unusual at all
> in the upper classes, all over the western world. (also in Hollywood, up to the sixties)
>
> Men were supposed to marry after they had established themselves in some secure position,
>
> Jan

As usual, you're a fucking ignorant, liar and deceiver. Heisenberg was protected by the cabal, as a "white jew".

His mother saved his life by 1937, because she was acquainted with Himmler's mother. He was going to be CANCELLED.

He was a fucking homo, and later a full time pedo. He MARRIED by fear about prosecutions on homos by the ruling party.

https://www.notablebiographies.com/He-Ho/Heisenberg-Werner.html
In 1927, at the age of twenty-six, he became professor of theoretical physics at the University of Leipzig.
He received the Nobel Prize for physics in 1932. During this outbreak of academic activity, he married
Elisabeth Schumacher. They eventually had seven children.

He married in 1934, not in 1937. His mother saved his life, as she knew Himmler's mother, who asked his son to forgive the homo.

Read this book, asshole:

BEYOND UNCERTAINTY
HEISENBERG, QUANTUM PHYSICS, AND THE BOMB
DAVID C. CASSIDY
2009. BELLEVUE LITERARY PRESS

CHAPTER 3 The Gymnasium Years 38
CHAPTER 4 The Battle of Munich 48
CHAPTER 5 Finding His Path 59
CHAPTER 6 Sommerfeld’s Institute 76
.....
CHAPTER 13 Reaching the Top 173
CHAPTER 14 New Frontiers 187
CHAPTER 15 Into the Abyss 205
........
CHAPTER 19 The Lonely Years 257
CHAPTER 20 A Faustian Bargain 268
CHAPTER 21 One Who Could Not Leave 282
CHAPTER 22 Warfare and Its Uses 296
CHAPTER 23 A Copenhagen Visit 310
CHAPTER 24 Ordering Reality 324
.........

Bohr was one of the two °step-fathers" for Heisenberg, being the other Max Born.
Heisenberg cried in the arms of Bohr, due to his incapability of get any progress with matrix mechanics. Bohr guided him
to propose his "Principle". Bohr was a CONFIDENT of Heisenberg secrets, aspect that the last tried to use to get information
about US plans for the A bomb. They never talked again after 1941.

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 by: Paul Alsing - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 01:17 UTC

On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:46:19 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:

> He married in 1934, not in 1937.

https://www.google.com/search?q=werner+heisenberg+marriage&sca_esv=558631697&rlz=1C1JZAP_enUS1065US1065&sxsrf=AB5stBhJkwDFub1Ipu7Y69bvNK9MC5QGmg%3A1692580289184&ei=wbniZOH0CoSRur8P6-qy6Ac&ved=0ahUKEwih2Y_3yOyAAxWEiO4BHWu1DH0Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=werner+heisenberg+marriage&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgCIhp3ZXJuZXIgaGVpc2VuYmVyZyBtYXJyaWFnZTIFECEYoAFI_j5QoBxYwDdwAXgBkAEAmAGfAaABiQmqAQMxLji4AQPIAQD4AQHCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgIKEAAYigUYsAMYQ8ICDRAAGIoFGLADGEMYiwPCAhMQLhiKBRiwAxhDGIsDGJoDGKgDwgIREAAY5AIY1gQYsAMYiwPYAQHCAh8QLhiKBRjIAxiwAxhDGIsDGJgDGJoDGJsDGKgD2AECwgIcEC4YigUYyAMYsAMYQxiLAxiYAxioAxiaA9gBAsICGRAuGIoFGMgDGLADGEMYiwMYmgMYqAPYAQLCAgUQABiABMICBRAuGIAEwgIQEAAYgAQYFBiHAhixAxiDAcICBhAAGBYYHsICCBAAGIoFGIYD4gMEGAAgQYgGAZAGE7oGBggBEAEYCboGBggCEAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

"In 1937 Heisenberg married Elisabeth Schumacher. They have seven children, and live in Munich."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg

"In January 1937, Heisenberg met Elisabeth Schumacher (1914–1998) at a private music recital. Elisabeth was the daughter of a well-known Berlin economics professor, and her brother was the economist E. F. Schumacher, author of Small Is Beautiful. Heisenberg married her on 29 April [1937].

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 01:27 UTC

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:57:31 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Even Einstein disliked his new role, but he had to pay to his masters:

If that were true why did he reject his Nobel prize photon 1937?
He said light is a spherical wavelet instead.

Mitchell Raemsch
>
> https://isidore.co/CalibreLibrary/Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20(4709)/The%20Manufacture%20and%20Sale%20of%20Saint%20Einstein%20-%20Bjerknes,%20Christopher%20Jon.pdf
>
> *************************************
> In an epiphany of Saint Einstein, Jewish journalist Alexander Moszkowski
> wrote to Albert Einstein on 1 February 1917,
>
> “Regardless of what happens, I would like to continue the ‘cult’; for you it
> is secondary, for me, it is of paramount importance in life. Additionally, I
> have the encouraging feeling that, with my modest writing abilities, I may
> also serve the cause once in a while.”3
>
> Moszkowski used his writing talents to make Einstein a superstar. In
> October 1919, Moszkowski fulfilled his promise to Einstein to promote
> the “cult” of Einstein, and began the international “Einstein mania”, which
> peaked in November and December 1919.
>
> Einstein knew that the newspaper hype was disingenuous and distasteful,
> but he blamed the public for the hype his racist Jewish friends had
> manufactured. In mid-December, 1919, Einstein wrote to his friend and
> confidant Heinrich Zangger,
>
> “The newspaper drivel about me is pathetic; this kind of exaggeration meets
> a certain need among the public. Really, a harmless ideology.”4
>
> On 24 December 1919, Einstein wrote to Zangger and justified the lies as
> “harmless tomfoolery”,
>
> “[T]his business reminds one of the tale of ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes,’
> but it is a harmless tomfoolery. [***] The disparity between what you are and
> what others believe, or at least, say about you, is far too great.”
>
> **********
>
> Do Not Blaspheme the “Jewish Saint”
>
> When Einstein arrived in America in early April of 1921, shortly after Einstein,
> himself, declared that anyone who disagreed with him must ipso facto be
> anti-Semitic, the Board of Aldermen of the City of New York met to vote on a
> proposal to grant Chaim Weizmann and Albert Einstein the “freedom of the
> city”.
>
> Alderman Bruce M. Falconer voted against the proposal and was
> immediately assaulted, threatened with severe retaliation and smeared as
> an “anti-Semite”—an accusation he emphatically denied. The New York
> Times, which was owned by a Jewish publisher named Adolph S. Ochs,
> published Alderman Falconer’s name, occupation, and home address,
> on the front page together with the charges of anti-Semitism, a description
> of the assault against him, and a report of the threats to destroy him, as
> well as his denials of any prejudice.
>
> Several stories describing the spectacle appeared in The New York Times,
> beginning with 6 April 1921,
> ....
> At the request of Aldermanic President LaGuardia, Mayor Hylan has
> called a special meeting of the Board for next Friday at 1:30 P. M., to take
> action on the resolution.
>
> ‘I am expressing the feeling of the entire Board when I ask you to call
> this meeting in order that the desires of the people of this city may be
> carried out in extending this call to these distinguished people,’ he said
> to the Mayor.
>
> Professor Weizmann is President of the International Zionist
> Organization, and, with Professor Einstein, M. M. Ussischkin and Dr.
> Benzion Mossinson, is here to confer with American Zionists. They
> were received at the City Hall yesterday by Mayor Hylan and a committee
> of citizens. More than 5,000 Zionists filled the plaza in front of the City Hall.
> .....
> Einstein wrote to Paul Ehrenfest on 12 April 1926,
>
> “I do believe that in time this endeavor will grow into something splendid;
> and, Jewish Saint that I am, my heart rejoices.”92
>
> *******
> RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
> TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.
>
> AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE, WHICH ERODES THE VALUES AND
> GROUNDS OF REAL SCIENCE. A FALLACIOUS FIELD OF PHILOSOPHY,
> FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS, FLAWS AND PARADOXES, WHICH HAS
> BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF
> POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.
>
> TRY TO NAME ANY FIELD, AND CHECK WHO'S IN FRONT OF IT, RIGHT NOW.

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Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:46:19?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
>
> > He married in 1934, not in 1937.
>
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> "In 1937 Heisenberg married Elisabeth Schumacher. They have seven
> children, and live in Munich."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg
>
> "In January 1937, Heisenberg met Elisabeth Schumacher (1914–1998) at a
> private music recital. Elisabeth was the daughter of a well-known Berlin
> economics professor, and her brother was the economist E. F. Schumacher,
> author of Small Is Beautiful. Heisenberg married her on 29 April [1937].

Strange isn't it. RH really is completely crazy,
in permanent denial of reality, and not to be trusted on anything.

Here is the Heisenberg's wedding photograph, dated to 1937 of course.
<https://www.themarginalian.org/2018/02/14/dear-li-werner-heisenberg-love-letters/>

The letters they exchanged from 1937 onwards have been published.
<https://www.residenzverlag.com/en/buch/my-dear-li>

RH needs a bigger hole in the sand to hide his head in,

Jan

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 by: Volney - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 14:07 UTC

On 8/20/2023 7:46 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:38:53 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
>>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
>
>>>> Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo. He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions
>>>> by the ruling party
>>>> He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping with his "beloved" children.
>>>>
>>>> A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.
>>>>
>>>> No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.
>>>
>>> You make up stuff about everything and anything.
>> Yes, incredible, isn't it? He can't be trusted on anything at all.
>>
>> For the kiddies: Heisenberg married at age 36, in 1937.
>> (RH has even the year wrong)
>> His wife was 13 years younger.
>> They had 7 children, over the next 12 years. Good going, for a 'homosexual'.
>>
>> Anyway, marrying late, to younger wives, was not unusual at all
>> in the upper classes, all over the western world. (also in Hollywood, up to the sixties)
>>
>> Men were supposed to marry after they had established themselves in some secure position,
>>
>> Jan
>
>
> As usual, you're a fucking ignorant, liar and deceiver. Heisenberg was protected by the cabal, as a "white jew".

You really suck at the history of physicists. He was called a "white
Jew" (an insult) by the Nazis because he wasn't supporting the Nazi
cause, but wasn't actually Jewish.
>
> His mother saved his life by 1937, because she was acquainted with Himmler's mother. He was going to be CANCELLED.

Yes going against the Nazi leadership was rather dangerous.
>
> He was a fucking homo, and later a full time pedo. He MARRIED by fear about prosecutions on homos by the ruling party.

Ummm, they cranked out 7 kids in 12 years, he must have been banging his
wife quite a bit. Not what I'd expect from a "homo" but you did get the
"fucking" part correct.
>
> https://www.notablebiographies.com/He-Ho/Heisenberg-Werner.html
> In 1927, at the age of twenty-six, he became professor of theoretical physics at the University of Leipzig.
> He received the Nobel Prize for physics in 1932. During this outbreak of academic activity, he married
> Elisabeth Schumacher. They eventually had seven children.

"Eventually"? Isn't this closer to a situation for Groucho Marx's cigar
joke?
>
> He married in 1934, not in 1937. His mother saved his life, as she knew Himmler's mother, who asked his son to forgive the homo.

April 1937. And great that his mother helped him for not going along
with the Nazis.

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Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 8/20/2023 7:46 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:38:53?AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> >>> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> >>>> Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo.
> >>>> He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions by the ruling party
> >>>> He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping
> >>>>with his "beloved" children.
> >>>>
> >>>> A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE
> >>>>DARK. Eddington, by instance.
> >>>>
> >>>> No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR,
> >>>>always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.
> >>>
> >>> You make up stuff about everything and anything.
> >> Yes, incredible, isn't it? He can't be trusted on anything at all.
> >>
> >> For the kiddies: Heisenberg married at age 36, in 1937.
> >> (RH has even the year wrong)
> >> His wife was 13 years younger.
> >> They had 7 children, over the next 12 years. Good going, for a
> >>'homosexual'.
> >>
> >> Anyway, marrying late, to younger wives, was not unusual at all in the
> >> upper classes, all over the western world. (also in Hollywood, up to
> >> the sixties)
> >>
> >> Men were supposed to marry after they had established themselves in
> >>some secure position,
> >
> > As usual, you're a fucking ignorant, liar and deceiver. Heisenberg was
> > protected by the cabal, as a "white jew".
>
> You really suck at the history of physicists. He was called a "white
> Jew" (an insult) by the Nazis because he wasn't supporting the Nazi
> cause, but wasn't actually Jewish.

Huh? Heisenberg not supporting the Nazi cause
is a myth invented by Heisenberg, after the war was over.

> > His mother saved his life by 1937, because she was acquainted with
> > Himmler's mother. He was going to be CANCELLED.
> >
> Yes going against the Nazi leadership was rather dangerous.

But Heisenberg never did that.
He even visited Niels Bohr wearing a nazi uniform.
He tried to blackmail Bohr into collaborating
with the German atom bomb project by remarking upon the fact
that Bohr's mother was Jewish, and by suggesting
that less than nice things might happen to her and his family.
(and to Danish Jews in general) if Bohr wouldn't cooperate.
Heisenberg sure was a really nice German.

> > He was a fucking homo, and later a full time pedo. He MARRIED by fear
> > about prosecutions on homos by the ruling party.
> >
> Ummm, they cranked out 7 kids in 12 years, he must have been banging his
> wife quite a bit.

What have you done? Now Hachel will come in to declare
that it was really the milkman who did it, acting as a stand-in,
because it is impossible that Heisenberg
could have fathered those children.
(being a pedo and a homo, remember?)

> Not what I'd expect from a "homo" but you did get the
> "fucking" part correct.

Yes, it seems to have been a case of 'living happily ever after',
(until H.'s death)

Jan


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