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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 06:47 UTC

HEY! What happen to my D-Day?

dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) was suppose to invade Poland 2
weeks ago! wats holding him up?

i never seen so many stupid people running a war...

On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>I predict
>dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
>will make the month of August...D-day.
>
>
>Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.
>
>
>
>bookmark dis page.
>
>
>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!
>>
>> It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
>> voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
>>
>> I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!
>>
>> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)
>> >
>> >the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.
>> >
>> >
>> >Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
>> >President of the United States.
>> >
>> >
>> >The next President might not allow it.
>> >
>> >
>> >Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.
>> >
>> >
>> >Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
>> >his PayPal account.
>> >
>> >
>> >Are Polish girls pretty????
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >i wan some of dat!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
>> >100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
>> ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>...and while the two bulldogs are
>> >>fighting under the rug...
>> >>
>> >>now it's a good time for
>> >>the little people of Russia to
>> >>arm themselves and take Putin out.
>> >>
>> >>dat wagner guy would forgive them.
>> >>
>> >>Now is the time to stick a
>> >>water hose down Putin's throat
>> >>while he is already drowning.
>> >>
>> >>finish him off..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
>> >>> "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".
>> >>>
>> >>> Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"
>> >>>
>> >>> and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"
>> >>>
>> >>> Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."
>> >>>
>> >>> Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"
>> >>>
>> >>> two bulldogs under a rug....
>> >>>
>> >>> who will come out..alive?
>> >>>
>> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
>> >>> > ...windows.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > if you people know anything about the mafia...
>> >>> > > you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > One of them has to die...soon.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Which one is it going to be????
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > dis is not a game of chess..
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > I heard the FBI needs your help..
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > looks a liitle familiar..
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > i tink i know where dis guy lives..
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
>> >>> > > > > purse snatcher Wagner.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > One of those two has to...die.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
>> >>> > > > > Crime Families!)
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > It's Kill or be Killed.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
>> >>> > > > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Mob Wars.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > Looks to me..
>> >>> > > > > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
>> >>> > > > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > looks to me
>> >>> > > > > > > he is going to vote himself in...
>> >>> > > > > > > and knock off Putin.
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > Mob style.
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > you gotta do it wit style.
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >>> > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
>> >>> > > > > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
>> >>> > > > > > > >> underboss.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> By Garry Kasparov
>> >>> > > > > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
>> >>> > > > > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
>> >>> > > > > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
>> >>> > > > > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
>> >>> > > > > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
>> >>> > > > > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
>> >>> > > > > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
>> >>> > > > > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
>> >>> > > > > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
>> >>> > > > > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
>> >>> > > > > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
>> >>> > > > > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
>> >>> > > > > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
>> >>> > > > > > > >> the medieval red walls.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
>> >>> > > > > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
>> >>> > > > > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
>> >>> > > > > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
>> >>> > > > > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
>> >>> > > > > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
>> >>> > > > > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
>> >>> > > > > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
>> >>> > > > > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
>> >>> > > > > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
>> >>> > > > > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
>> >>> > > > > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
>> >>> > > > > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
>> >>> > > > > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
>> >>> > > > > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
>> >>> > > > > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
>> >>> > > > > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
>> >>> > > > > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
>> >>> > > > > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
>> >>> > > > > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
>> >>> > > > > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
>> >>> > > > > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
>> >>> > > > > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
>> >>> > > > > > > >> into private accounts.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
>> >>> > > > > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
>> >>> > > > > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
>> >>> > > > > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
>> >>> > > > > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
>> >>> > > > > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
>> >>> > > > > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
>> >>> > > > > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
>> >>> > > > > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
>> >>> > > > > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
>> >>> > > > > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
>> >>> > > > > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
>> >>> > > > > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
>> >>> > > > > > > >> all just cards to be played.
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> > > > > > > >> --
>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> > > > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> > > > > > > >> and challenge
>> >>> > > > > > > >> the unchallengeable.
>> >>> > > > > > > --
>> >>> > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> > > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>> >>> > > > > > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > --
>> >>> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> > > > > > and challenge
>> >>> > > > > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > --
>> >>> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> > > > > and challenge
>> >>> > > > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > --
>> >>> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>> >>> > > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > --
>> >>> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> > > and challenge
>> >>> > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> > and challenge
>> >>> > the unchallengeable.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>> >>> the unchallengeable.


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 by: The Starmaker - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 19:36 UTC

NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.

Putin finally killed him.

On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:47:07 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>HEY! What happen to my D-Day?
>
>dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) was suppose to invade Poland 2
>weeks ago! wats holding him up?
>
>
>i never seen so many stupid people running a war...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>I predict
>>dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
>>will make the month of August...D-day.
>>
>>
>>Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.
>>
>>
>>
>>bookmark dis page.
>>
>>
>>
>>The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!
>>>
>>> It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
>>> voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
>>>
>>> I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!
>>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)
>>> >
>>> >the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
>>> >President of the United States.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >The next President might not allow it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
>>> >his PayPal account.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Are Polish girls pretty????
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >i wan some of dat!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
>>> >100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>...and while the two bulldogs are
>>> >>fighting under the rug...
>>> >>
>>> >>now it's a good time for
>>> >>the little people of Russia to
>>> >>arm themselves and take Putin out.
>>> >>
>>> >>dat wagner guy would forgive them.
>>> >>
>>> >>Now is the time to stick a
>>> >>water hose down Putin's throat
>>> >>while he is already drowning.
>>> >>
>>> >>finish him off..
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
>>> >>> "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> two bulldogs under a rug....
>>> >>>
>>> >>> who will come out..alive?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
>>> >>> > ...windows.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > if you people know anything about the mafia...
>>> >>> > > you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > One of them has to die...soon.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > Which one is it going to be????
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > dis is not a game of chess..
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > I heard the FBI needs your help..
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > looks a liitle familiar..
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > i tink i know where dis guy lives..
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
>>> >>> > > > > purse snatcher Wagner.
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > One of those two has to...die.
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
>>> >>> > > > > Crime Families!)
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > It's Kill or be Killed.
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
>>> >>> > > > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
>>> >>> > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
>>> >>> > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
>>> >>> > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > Mob Wars.
>>> >>> > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
>>> >>> > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > Looks to me..
>>> >>> > > > > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
>>> >>> > > > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
>>> >>> > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > looks to me
>>> >>> > > > > > > he is going to vote himself in...
>>> >>> > > > > > > and knock off Putin.
>>> >>> > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > Mob style.
>>> >>> > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
>>> >>> > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > you gotta do it wit style.
>>> >>> > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
>>> >>> > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> >>> > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB711370C
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> underboss.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> By Garry Kasparov
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> the medieval red walls.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> into private accounts.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> all just cards to be played.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> --
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> and challenge
>>> >>> > > > > > > >> the unchallengeable.
>>> >>> > > > > > > --
>>> >>> > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> >>> > > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>>> >>> > > > > > > the unchallengeable.
>>> >>> > > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > > --
>>> >>> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> >>> > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> >>> > > > > > and challenge
>>> >>> > > > > > the unchallengeable.
>>> >>> > > > >
>>> >>> > > > > --
>>> >>> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> >>> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> >>> > > > > and challenge
>>> >>> > > > > the unchallengeable.
>>> >>> > > >
>>> >>> > > > --
>>> >>> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> >>> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>>> >>> > > > the unchallengeable.
>>> >>> > >
>>> >>> > > --
>>> >>> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> >>> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> >>> > > and challenge
>>> >>> > > the unchallengeable.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > --
>>> >>> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> >>> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>>> >>> > and challenge
>>> >>> > the unchallengeable.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>>> >>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>>> >>> the unchallengeable.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
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 by: The Starmaker - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 21:11 UTC

Putin killing dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) means
dat guy is not running for President of Russia.

Everybody knows a bullet is a *decisive* vote.

What happens if the democratcs decide to use...a decisive vote against
Donald Trump????

i guess it would mean he's not running for president.

climate change.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.
>
> Putin finally killed him.
>
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:47:07 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >HEY! What happen to my D-Day?
> >
> >dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) was suppose to invade Poland 2
> >weeks ago! wats holding him up?
> >
> >
> >i never seen so many stupid people running a war...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
> ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I predict
> >>dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> >>will make the month of August...D-day.
> >>
> >>
> >>Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>bookmark dis page.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!
> >>>
> >>> It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
> >>> voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
> >>>
> >>> I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
> >>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)
> >>> >
> >>> >the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
> >>> >President of the United States.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >The next President might not allow it.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
> >>> >his PayPal account.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Are Polish girls pretty????
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >i wan some of dat!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
> >>> >100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
> >>> ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>...and while the two bulldogs are
> >>> >>fighting under the rug...
> >>> >>
> >>> >>now it's a good time for
> >>> >>the little people of Russia to
> >>> >>arm themselves and take Putin out.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>dat wagner guy would forgive them.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Now is the time to stick a
> >>> >>water hose down Putin's throat
> >>> >>while he is already drowning.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>finish him off..
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
> >>> >>> "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> two bulldogs under a rug....
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> who will come out..alive?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
> >>> >>> > ...windows.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > if you people know anything about the mafia...
> >>> >>> > > you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > One of them has to die...soon.
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > Which one is it going to be????
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > dis is not a game of chess..
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > I heard the FBI needs your help..
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > looks a liitle familiar..
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > i tink i know where dis guy lives..
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
> >>> >>> > > > > purse snatcher Wagner.
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > One of those two has to...die.
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
> >>> >>> > > > > Crime Families!)
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > It's Kill or be Killed.
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
> >>> >>> > > > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
> >>> >>> > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
> >>> >>> > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
> >>> >>> > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > Mob Wars.
> >>> >>> > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
> >>> >>> > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > Looks to me..
> >>> >>> > > > > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
> >>> >>> > > > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
> >>> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > looks to me
> >>> >>> > > > > > > he is going to vote himself in...
> >>> >>> > > > > > > and knock off Putin.
> >>> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > Mob style.
> >>> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
> >>> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > you gotta do it wit style.
> >>> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
> >>> >>> > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB71137
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> underboss.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> By Garry Kasparov
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the medieval red walls.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> into private accounts.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> all just cards to be played.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> --
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> and challenge
> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the unchallengeable.
> >>> >>> > > > > > > --
> >>> >>> > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>> >>> > > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> >>> >>> > > > > > > the unchallengeable.
> >>> >>> > > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > > --
> >>> >>> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>> >>> > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> >>> >>> > > > > > and challenge
> >>> >>> > > > > > the unchallengeable.
> >>> >>> > > > >
> >>> >>> > > > > --
> >>> >>> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>> >>> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> >>> >>> > > > > and challenge
> >>> >>> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> >>> >>> > > >
> >>> >>> > > > --
> >>> >>> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>> >>> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >>> >>> > > > the unchallengeable.
> >>> >>> > >
> >>> >>> > > --
> >>> >>> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>> >>> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> >>> >>> > > and challenge
> >>> >>> > > the unchallengeable.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > --
> >>> >>> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>> >>> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> >>> >>> > and challenge
> >>> >>> > the unchallengeable.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> --
> >>> >>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >>> >>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >>> >>> the unchallengeable.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.


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 by: The Starmaker - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 22:11 UTC

Putin is probably saying right now.."okay, dats dat."

Nancy Pelosi is probably sayin..

(she's lookin thru the constitution...)

"Where does it say you cannot kill a former president????"

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 by: Physfitfreak - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 22:13 UTC

On 8/23/2023 2:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.
>
>
> Putin finally killed him.

He must've been told he was already dead, right after that angry and
threatening speech he made against Russia's military leaders, while
standing beside a number of his fallen soldiers that night. That's the
only scenario in which he would later move forces toward Moscow...! He
knew that he was dead, and at the last moment prevented more bloodshed,
i.e. the only thing left for him to do.

His soldiers and followers today have uploaded into Telegram the last
scene of his speech of that night. They all must be under the impression
his fate was sealed with that speech. This is the video they uploaded to
Telegram today:

https://streamable.com/k5ae3a

Note the awesome choice of background music... ("Until We Meet Again" by
Demarcus Views). Some first-rate work. So I wonder whether it was his
soldiers who uploaded this work to that channel, or some illuminati
elsewhere in the world, or a true Russian supporter in St Petersburg who
wasn't just anybody. Had the mastery to bring together this stuff.

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On 8/23/2023 4:11 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Putin killing dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) means
> dat guy is not running for President of Russia.
>
> Everybody knows a bullet is a*decisive* vote.
>
> What happens if the democratcs decide to use...a decisive vote against
> Donald Trump????

I would get the bag of pinto beans out.

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 by: Physfitfreak - Wed, 23 Aug 2023 22:58 UTC

On 8/23/2023 5:13 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 8/23/2023 2:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> NEVERMIND,  dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)  is dead.
>>
>>
>> Putin finally killed him.
>
>
>
> He must've been told he was already dead, right after that angry and
> threatening speech he made against Russia's military leaders, while
> standing beside a number of his fallen soldiers that night. That's the
> only scenario in which he would later move forces toward Moscow...! He
> knew that he was dead, and at the last moment prevented more bloodshed,
> i.e. the only thing left for him to do.
>
> His soldiers and followers today have uploaded into Telegram the last
> scene of his speech of that night. They all must be under the impression
> his fate was sealed with that speech. This is the video they uploaded to
> Telegram today:
>
>  https://streamable.com/k5ae3a
>
> Note the awesome choice of background music... ("Until We Meet Again" by
> Demarcus Views). Some first-rate work. So I wonder whether it was his
> soldiers who uploaded this work to that channel, or some illuminati
> elsewhere in the world, or a true Russian supporter in St Petersburg who
> wasn't just anybody. Had the mastery to bring together this stuff.
>
>
>

A building in St. Petersburg tonight:

https://i.postimg.cc/BbJjnJYq/building-in-St-Petersburg.jpg

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:13:31 -0500, Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 8/23/2023 2:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.

>> Putin finally killed him.

He let him out of his Ukraine contract and sent him back to Africa.

>He must've been told he was already dead, right after that angry and
>threatening speech he made against Russia's military leaders, while
>standing beside a number of his fallen soldiers that night. That's the
>only scenario in which he would later move forces toward Moscow...! He
>knew that he was dead, and at the last moment prevented more bloodshed,
>i.e. the only thing left for him to do.
>
>His soldiers and followers today have uploaded into Telegram the last
>scene of his speech of that night. They all must be under the impression
>his fate was sealed with that speech. This is the video they uploaded to
>Telegram today:
>
> https://streamable.com/k5ae3a

Well, clicking on that was a waste of time.

>Note the awesome choice of background music... ("Until We Meet Again" by
>Demarcus Views). Some first-rate work. So I wonder whether it was his
>soldiers who uploaded this work to that channel, or some illuminati
>elsewhere in the world, or a true Russian supporter in St Petersburg who
>wasn't just anybody. Had the mastery to bring together this stuff.

Priggy is currently back in Africa on his regular beat. There have been coups in some of
the countries he operates in. There was a coup in Niger just last month.

Swill
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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 24 Aug 2023 06:06 UTC

and for those of you who cannot keep up with world events:

News about Wagner, Yevgeny Prigozhin
https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqNggKIjBDQklTSGpvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoRUtEd2lNcUx6cUNCSGhnZUVBTk9TTWJTZ0FQAQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Bang bang, he shot me down
Bang bang, I hit the ground
Bang bang, that awful sound
Bang bang, Putin shot me down.

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 14:11:46 -0700, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Putin killing dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) means
>dat guy is not running for President of Russia.
>
>Everybody knows a bullet is a *decisive* vote.
>
>What happens if the democratcs decide to use...a decisive vote against
>Donald Trump????
>
>
>i guess it would mean he's not running for president.
>
>
>climate change.
>
>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> NEVERMIND, dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is dead.
>>
>> Putin finally killed him.
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 23:47:07 -0700, The Starmaker
>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >HEY! What happen to my D-Day?
>> >
>> >dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) was suppose to invade Poland 2
>> >weeks ago! wats holding him up?
>> >
>> >
>> >i never seen so many stupid people running a war...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 22:30:30 -0700, The Starmaker
>> ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I predict
>> >>dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
>> >>will make the month of August...D-day.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Somewhere between August 2nd - and Aug, 7th.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>bookmark dis page.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I heard dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...is still alive!
>> >>>
>> >>> It was kind of dark, so i couldn't see him well...but i recognize his
>> >>> voice..and it was definitely him,,,dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess he is getting ready for...D-Day!
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 12:28:46 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >>> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >I heard, (but i don't know if it's true)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >the Wagner guys are going to take Poland.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Now, it's the best time to take Poland while yous have a pussy for
>> >>> >President of the United States.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >The next President might not allow it.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Everyone must always grab an ...opportunity.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Biden will announced he will put sanctions on dat Wagner guy...cut off
>> >>> >his PayPal account.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Are Polish girls pretty????
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >i wan some of dat!
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >How many polish people does it take to change a light bulb?
>> >>> >100, one to hold the bulb and ninety nine to spin the house.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 21:05:41 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >>> ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>...and while the two bulldogs are
>> >>> >>fighting under the rug...
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>now it's a good time for
>> >>> >>the little people of Russia to
>> >>> >>arm themselves and take Putin out.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>dat wagner guy would forgive them.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Now is the time to stick a
>> >>> >>water hose down Putin's throat
>> >>> >>while he is already drowning.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>finish him off..
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> So, Putin tells dat Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin)...
>> >>> >>> "Don't worry, I'm dropping all treason charges and all dat other stuff".
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Then Putin tells his friend.."KILL DAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> and his friend sez, "What about his all mercenary soldiers?"
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Putin sez, "Tell them to come in and they can all join my army."
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Then .."KILL ALL THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!"
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> two bulldogs under a rug....
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> who will come out..alive?
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > My advise to this Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...stay aways from
>> >>> >>> > ...windows.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> > >
>> >>> >>> > > if you people know anything about the mafia...
>> >>> >>> > > you know Putin needs to rub out dat wagner guy, otherwise...
>> >>> >>> > >
>> >>> >>> > > EVERYBODY WILL WANT TO KNOCK OFF PUTIN!
>> >>> >>> > >
>> >>> >>> > > One of them has to die...soon.
>> >>> >>> > >
>> >>> >>> > > Which one is it going to be????
>> >>> >>> > >
>> >>> >>> > > (the wagner guy already made his move and now has the popular vote)
>> >>> >>> > >
>> >>> >>> > > dis is not a game of chess..
>> >>> >>> > >
>> >>> >>> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > I heard the FBI needs your help..
>> >>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > they are looking for this guy...anybody seen him around?
>> >>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
>> >>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > looks a liitle familiar..
>> >>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > there is a reward out for him..$250,000.02
>> >>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > https://www.fbi.gov/@@dvpdffiles/5/3/53426a12e62644ca8fe47a23da95f064/normal/dump_1.gif
>> >>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > i tink i know where dis guy lives..
>> >>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > Of course Putin is a chicken...he's got a lot more to lose than dat
>> >>> >>> > > > > purse snatcher Wagner.
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > One of those two has to...die.
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > Which one are you rooting for? da gangster or da gangster?
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > Why doesn't da Big Guy take them both out?
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > well, we'll deal with wat ever gangster survies....
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > Biden gots his own Crime Family to look after.
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > Trump has to go after all the Crime Families in Washington!
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > (luckly Trump has Rudy Giuliani to consult him...Rudy is an expert on
>> >>> >>> > > > > Crime Families!)
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > It's Kill or be Killed.
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > You wanna make an omelete you gotta break some eggs.
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. ...
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) is trying to kill Putin, and
>> >>> >>> > > > > > Putin is trying to kill This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin).
>> >>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > Who is going to win? The Gambino Family or the Bonano Family?
>> >>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > Somebody is going to get hit on 46th Street...
>> >>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > Mob Wars.
>> >>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > Who gets to own the gas station on Putin Avenue?
>> >>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > Looks to me..
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > President for Russia...he's strickly criminal. And
>> >>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > looks to me
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > he is going to vote himself in...
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > and knock off Putin.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > Mob style.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > It's a Mafia state, why not?
>> >>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > you gotta do it wit style.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 23:36:35 -0700, The Starmaker
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>> > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > This Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) ...dat mad russian
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > https://www.wsj.com/video/series/shadow-men/shadow-men-inside-wagner-russias-secret-war-company/29735C37-0B4E-4E70-8E8C-C46FB71137
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > > Believe it or not, he will become the next President of Russia!
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Now, dis Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President of Russia. He's Putin's kind of guy...
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Here is a just a little history about (Yevgeny Prigozhin)
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > (Yevgeny Prigozhin) made his first mark on the public record as a criminal.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > In 1979, aged 18, Prigozhin was given a two-year suspended sentence for theft.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > While still on probation, he committed a series of burglaries.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > There wasn’t much worth stealing in Soviet-era Leningrad.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > In February 1980, Prigozhin and an accomplice broke into an apartment and stole a vase, a napkin holder and six wine glasses.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > Minor infractions led to more brutal ones. One evening Prigozhin and his cronies went out celebrating
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > the theft of 250 roubles from a man they had lured down a dark alley. Prigozhin noticed a young woman in
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > a “beautiful” coat, according to testimony given by one member of the gang. They followed the woman into
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > the street and one of them asked her for a cigarette. As she opened her handbag, Prigozhin grabbed her from behind
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > by the neck and began to strangle her. She tried to scream but he gripped her harder. She blacked out and slumped to the ground.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > One of the muggers took her boots; Prigozhin ripped off her gold earrings. A court jailed him for 13 years. He had just turned 20.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > > "stole a vase"???? wat is he a faguet?
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > This guy Wagner guy (Yevgeny Prigozhin) would make the perfect President for Russia...he's strickly criminal.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> > He's Putin's kind of guy...
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Do you know what "Putin's kind of guy..." means? Like a John Gotti
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> underboss.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Most of yous don't understand Putin and Russia.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Russia in fact is a Mafia State. A country run by The Mafia. It's a
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mafia country. Run by the Mafia.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> If you need a little more understanding...
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> By Garry Kasparov
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> When Vladimir Putin took power in Russia in 2000, the burning question
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> was: "Who is Putin?" It has now changed to: "What is the nature of
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Putin's Russia?" This regime has been remarkably consistent in its
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> behavior, yet foreign leaders and the Western press still act surprised
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> at Mr. Putin's total disregard for their opinions.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Again and again we hear cries of: "Doesn't Putin know how bad this
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> looks?" When another prominent Russian journalist is murdered, when a
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> businessman not friendly to the Kremlin is jailed, when a foreign
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> company is pushed out of its Russian investment, when pro-democracy
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> marchers are beaten by police, when gas and oil supplies are used as
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> weapons, or when Russian weapons and missile technology are sold to
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> terrorist sponsor states like Iran and Syria, what needs to be asked is
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> what sort of government would continue such behavior. This Kremlin
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> regime operates within a value system entirely different from that of
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the Western nations struggling to understand what is happening behind
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the medieval red walls.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin's government is unique in history. This Kremlin is part
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> oligarchy, with a small, tightly connected gang of wealthy rulers. It is
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> partly a feudal system, broken down into semi-autonomous fiefdoms in
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> which payments are collected from the serfs, who have no rights. Over
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> this there is a democratic coat of paint, just thick enough to gain
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> entry into the G-8 and keep the oligarchy's money safe in Western banks.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> But if you really wish to understand the Putin regime in depth, I can
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> recommend some reading. No Karl Marx or Adam Smith. Nothing by
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Montesquieu or Machiavelli, although the author you are looking for is
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> of Italian descent. But skip Mussolini's "The Doctrine of Fascism," for
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> now, and the entire political science section. Instead, go directly to
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the fiction department and take home everything you can find by Mario
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Puzo. If you are in a real hurry to become an expert on the Russian
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> government, you may prefer the DVD section, where you can find Mr.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Puzo's works on film. "The Godfather" trilogy is a good place to start,
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> but do not leave out "The Last Don," "Omerta" and "The Sicilian."
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> The web of betrayals, the secrecy, the blurred lines between what is
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> business, what is government, and what is criminal -- it's all there in
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Puzo's books. A historian looks at the Kremlin today and sees
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> elements of Mussolini's "corporate state," Latin American juntas and
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mexico's pseudo-democratic PRI machine. A Puzo fan sees the Putin
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> government more accurately: the strict hierarchy, the extortion, the
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> intimidation, the code of secrecy and, above all, the mandate to keep
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the revenue flowing. In other words, a mafia.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> If a member of the inner circle goes against the Capo, his life is
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> forfeit. Once Russia's richest man, Mikhail Khodorkovsky wanted to go
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> straight and run his Yukos oil company as a legitimate corporation and
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> not as another cog in Mr. Putin's KGB, Inc. He quickly found himself in
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> a Siberian prison, his company dismantled and looted, and its pieces
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> absorbed by the state mafia apparatus of Rosneft and Gazprom.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Yukos case has become a model. Private companies are absorbed into
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the state while at the same time the assets of the state companies move
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> into private accounts.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Alexander Litvinenko was a KGB agent who broke the loyalty code by
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> fleeing to Britain. Worse, he violated the law of omert&agrave; by going
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> to the press and even publishing books about the dirty deeds of Mr.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Putin and his foot soldiers. Instead of being taken fishing in the
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> old-fashioned Godfather style, he was killed in London in the first
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> recorded case of nuclear terrorism. Now the Kremlin is refusing to hand
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> over the main suspect in the murder.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Mr. Putin can't understand Britain doing potential harm to its business
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> interests over one human life. That's an alien concept. In his world,
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> everything is negotiable. Morals and principles are just chips on the
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> table in the Kremlin's game. There is no mere misunderstanding in the
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> Litvinenko case; there are two different languages being spoken.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> In the civilized world, certain things are sacrosanct. Human life is not
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> traded at the same table where business and diplomacy are discussed. But
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> for Mr. Putin, it's a true no-limits game. Kosovo, the missile shield,
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> pipeline deals, the Iranian nuclear program and democratic rights are
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> all just cards to be played.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >Now, do you know who Mikhail Khodorkovsky is? He was head of the Jewish Mafia in Russia.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >When Putin got rid of Mikhail Khodorkovsky...all the other top Jewish Mafia guys ran to Israel.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >>
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> --
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> and challenge
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > >> the unchallengeable.
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > --
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>> >>> >>> > > > > > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > > --
>> >>> >>> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> >>> > > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> >>> > > > > > and challenge
>> >>> >>> > > > > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > > --
>> >>> >>> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> >>> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> >>> > > > > and challenge
>> >>> >>> > > > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> >>> > > >
>> >>> >>> > > > --
>> >>> >>> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> >>> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>> >>> >>> > > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> >>> > >
>> >>> >>> > > --
>> >>> >>> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> >>> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> >>> > > and challenge
>> >>> >>> > > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> > --
>> >>> >>> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> >>> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> >>> >>> > and challenge
>> >>> >>> > the unchallengeable.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> --
>> >>> >>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> >>> >>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>> >>> >>> the unchallengeable.
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>> the unchallengeable.


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