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* Space would not go away at gravitymitchr...@gmail.com
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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 18:14 UTC

if space contracted up to the event horizon
a BH could not have an inner volume of gravity...
Falling flat atoms do not exist. Nor does a flat
particle falling in.

There are no singularities and no
event horizons. Light does not
slow down leaving from its "absolute c" escape
velocity under all gravity. Atom's alone
obey escape velocity slow down leaving
gravity... Light never has.

Atomic jets can't come out of a BH pole
event horizon. They can get out of
a look a like we have observed.
Neutron stars are maximum limited
gravity strength. That is the only order
where jets would apply.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Volney - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 18:55 UTC

On 9/9/2023 2:14 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> if space contracted up to the event horizon
> a BH could not have an inner volume of gravity...
> Falling flat atoms do not exist. Nor does a flat
> particle falling in.

Don't forget, Roy, that in their own frame they are normal and not flat.
Also, for black holes, tidal effects have the opposite effect of making
flat. Google "spaghettification", if you are brave enough to confront
the Google monster.
>
> There are no singularities and no
> event horizons. Light does not
> slow down leaving from its "absolute c" escape
> velocity under all gravity. Atom's alone
> obey escape velocity slow down leaving
> gravity... Light never has.

For an (obvious!) GR situation like near a black hole, you cannot use SR
and its predictions which would not apply there.
>
> Atomic jets can't come out of a BH pole
> event horizon.

Which is good you understand that, because nobody in science ever
believes that ANYTHING comes out from beyond the event horizon.

> They can get out of
> a look a like we have observed.

Gibberish, Roy.

> Neutron stars are maximum limited
> gravity strength. That is the only order
> where jets would apply.

Since nothing ever comes out of black holes, black holes still apply
where neutron stars cannot exist.

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 by: Dermando Mogila - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 21:10 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> There are no singularities and no event horizons. Light does not slow
> down leaving from its "absolute c" escape velocity under all gravity.
> Atom's alone obey escape velocity slow down leaving gravity... Light
> never has.

absolutely. When different objects falls on Earth and Moon, 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘀𝗮𝗺𝗲
𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻, 𝗵𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗲𝗱, disregard their size and 𝗺𝗮𝘀𝘀, proves my
"𝗗𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗴𝗲𝗻𝘁_𝗠𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝗼𝗳_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗠𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗞𝗼𝗲𝗿𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀_𝗠𝗼𝗱𝗲𝗹" correct. Absolutely. Otherwise
there is no reason why different objects just to stay there, waiting for
Earth to advance. Thank you very much. It's 100% obvious.


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