Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras
took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an
entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth.

At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work
by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR
span of time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118

BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other
pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years
before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in particular
mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other technologies, like
how to make paper, powder, etc.

Western science is a fucking joke.

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras
> took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an
> entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth.
>
> At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work
> by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR
> span of time.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118
>
> BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other
> pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years
> before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in particular
> mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other technologies, like
> how to make paper, powder, etc.
>
> Western science is a fucking joke.

So, Dick, how is it that western technology has, in the past, towered over the rest of the world if *they* had the knowledge first?

If you steal an idea, that could be plagiarism. However, if you steal from multiple sources, well, that is research!

I'm pretty sure that *you* are the fucking joke here, Dick...

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 9:29:54 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras
> > took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an
> > entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth.
> >
> > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work
> > by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR
> > span of time.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118
> >
> > BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other
> > pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years
> > before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in particular
> > mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other technologies, like
> > how to make paper, powder, etc.
> >
> > Western science is a fucking joke.
> So, Dick, how is it that western technology has, in the past, towered over the rest of the world if *they* had the knowledge first?
>
> If you steal an idea, that could be plagiarism. However, if you steal from multiple sources, well, that is research!
>
> I'm pretty sure that *you* are the fucking joke here, Dick...

Quite simple: theft, piracy, mass murder, submission of locals, domination by force and death: Spanish empire first, Portuguese followed. Then, after
the demise of both empires, britons, frenchies and dutches followed. All of this in just 600 years.

Even Newton was benefited from Indian knowledge brought to England.

The behavior of invaders of eastern world was the one of depredators, something that indians and chinese had left behind for centuries.

The information is online. Do a little of research, fucking relativistic asshole.

On 2023-10-06 01:57:42 +0000, Richard Hertz said:

> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 9:29:54 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:>
>> > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago,
>> Pythagoras> > took advantage of his position in ancient greek
>> civilization to plagiarize an> > entire body of mathematics developed
>> 1,000 years before his birth.> >> > At least, he had decency and dug
>> into developments that preceded his work> > by a millennium. Einstein
>> just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR> > span of time.>
>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289> >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322> >
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118> >> > BTW, the european
>> renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other> > pirates who
>> stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years> >
>> before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in
>> particular> > mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other
>> technologies, like> > how to make paper, powder, etc.> >> > Western
>> science is a fucking joke.
>> So, Dick, how is it that western technology has, in the past, towered
>> over the rest of the world if *they* had the knowledge first?>> If you
>> steal an idea, that could be plagiarism. However, if you steal from
>> multiple sources, well, that is research!>> I'm pretty sure that *you*
>> are the fucking joke here, Dick...
>
> Quite simple: theft, piracy, mass murder, submission of locals,
> domination by force and death: Spanish empire first, Portuguese
> followed. Then, after
> the demise of both empires, britons, frenchies and dutches followed.
> All of this in just 600 years.
>
> Even Newton was benefited from Indian knowledge brought to England.
>
> The behavior of invaders of eastern world was the one of depredators,
> something that indians and chinese had left behind for centuries.
>
> The information is online.

i.e. stuff posted by other nutters. Any references to work published by
real scientists in real journals? No. I didn't think so.

> Do a little of research, fucking relativistic asshole.

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

Op 6/10/2023 om 13:32 schreef Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> On 2023-10-06 01:57:42 +0000, Richard Hertz said:
>
>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 9:29:54 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz
>>> wrote:> > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years
>>> ago, Pythagoras> > took advantage of his position in ancient greek
>>> civilization to plagiarize an> > entire body of mathematics developed
>>> 1,000 years before his birth.> >> > At least, he had decency and dug
>>> into developments that preceded his work> > by a millennium. Einstein
>>> just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR> > span of time.>
>>> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289> >
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322> >
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118> >> > BTW, the european
>>> renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other> > pirates who
>>> stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years> >
>>> before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in
>>> particular> > mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other
>>> technologies, like> > how to make paper, powder, etc.> >> > Western
>>> science is a fucking joke.
>>> So, Dick, how is it that western technology has, in the past, towered
>>> over the rest of the world if *they* had the knowledge first?>> If
>>> you steal an idea, that could be plagiarism. However, if you steal
>>> from multiple sources, well, that is research!>> I'm pretty sure that
>>> *you* are the fucking joke here, Dick...
>>
>> Quite simple: theft, piracy, mass murder, submission of locals,
>> domination by force and death: Spanish empire first, Portuguese
>> followed. Then, after
>> the demise of both empires, britons, frenchies and dutches followed.
>> All of this in just 600 years.
>>
>> Even Newton was benefited from Indian knowledge brought to England.
>>
>> The behavior of invaders of eastern world was the one of depredators,
>> something that indians and chinese had left behind for centuries.
>>
>> The information is online.
>
> i.e. stuff posted by other nutters. Any references to work published by
> real scientists in real journals? No. I didn't think so.

None of those great ancient foreign civilisations' culture shows up in
his writings, either. (Eg:)

>>  Do a little of research, fucking relativistic asshole.
>

--
guido wugi

On October 5, Richard Hertz wrote:
> the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other
> pirates who stole all the science from China and India,

Especially Columbus, who stole science from the Indians,
that he met when his ship landed in India, in 1492.

> Western science is a fucking joke.

The science of the Old West:
https://dygtyjqp7pi0m.cloudfront.net/i/39418/33857141_1.jpg

No joke, pal -

--
Rich

On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:55:31 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras
> took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an
> entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth.
>
> At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work
> by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR
> span of time.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118
>
> BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other
> pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years
> before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in particular
> mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other technologies, like
> how to make paper, powder, etc.
>
> Western science is a fucking joke.

16 Significant Science and Tech Discoveries Ancient India Gave the World
https://www.thebetterindia.com/63119/ancient-india-science-technology/

How the West stole Indian inventions, ideas & knowledge | Jeffrey Armstrong ji
https://www.reddit.com/r/indianews/comments/p2tz7e/how_the_west_stole_indian_inventions_ideas/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_inventions_and_discoveries

https://www.britannica.com/technology/history-of-technology/China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science_and_technology_in_China

China and India were ahead of western STEM for more than 2,000 years. But they didn't want to conquer the West by force and
use their resources (nothing that Europe could have in the dark ages) to finance their civilization. They were mostly territorial.

Fucking britons, frenchies, dutch, spaniards and portuguese went out to deplete resources of the new world, after Colombus.

European science, with very few exceptions, was close to NOTHING before 1492.

Curiously, science and the rest of STEM, arts, etc., fluorished in Europe AFTER they started to conquer country after country in the rest of the world..
And, ironically, it was the Chinese invention of the powder which facilitated the development of cannons, pistols, rifles, etc.

West stole not only precious physical resources, but also intellectual resources as well.

Now, the cretin westerners cry foul because China is striking back, without bloodshed.

There is a circular development of global events, going back to the origin of the sources of wealth, science, technology and human development.

Step by step, while the "collective West" is crumbling.

Karma.

Am 06.10.2023 um 01:55 schrieb Richard Hertz:
> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras
> took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an
> entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth.
>
> At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work
> by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR
> span of time.

I personally think, that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron' was
submitted days befor the paper 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'
and the date of submission was faked (by Planck).

The reason: there was a relatively large gap between submission in june
1905 and printing in late 1905, which was unusual.

And Einstein's text was seemingly inspired by Poincare's paper, hence
had to be written after the paper of Poincare.

This little time-gap could be easily fixed, but only by 'Annalen der
Physik', hence by Planck himself.

TH

Le 14/10/2023 à 09:22, Thomas Heger a écrit :
....
> I personally think,

We don't care about what you think ; you are demented Thomas.

> that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron'

This is not the real title, this not even proper French.

How come you *never* get the simplest thing right Thomas?

On 2023-10-14 07:22:27 +0000, Thomas Heger said:

> Am 06.10.2023 um 01:55 schrieb Richard Hertz:
>> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras
>> took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an
>> entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth.
>>
>> At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work
>> by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR
>> span of time.
>
> I personally think, that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron' was
> submitted days befor the paper 'On the electrodynamics of moving
> bodies' and the date of submission was faked (by Planck).

What on earth does it matter what you personally think? If you want to
be taken seriously you need to learn the title of Poincaré's paper.
This has been pointed out to you before. Three mistakes in five words
is too many (though you can probably be forgiven for omitting the
accent from électron).
>
> The reason: there was a relatively large gap between submission in june
> 1905 and printing in late 1905, which was unusual.
>
> And Einstein's text was seemingly inspired by Poincare's paper, hence
> had to be written after the paper of Poincare.
>
> This little time-gap could be easily fixed, but only by 'Annalen der
> Physik', hence by Planck himself.
>
> TH

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 12:20:08 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> Am 06.10.2023 um 01:55 schrieb Richard Hertz:
> > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras
> > took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an
> > entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth.
> >
> > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work
> > by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR
> > span of time.
> I personally think,

No one cares what you think, crank

On 2023-10-14 12:13:47 +0000, Python said:

> Le 14/10/2023 à 09:22, Thomas Heger a écrit :
> ...
>> I personally think,
>
> We don't care about what you think ; you are demented Thomas.
>
>> that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron'
>
> This is not the real title, this not even proper French.

This isn't the first time he has been told that. In my comment (written
after yours, I fear, but I hadn't read far enough) I said he had made
three errors, but actually it was four, because he wrote d' rather than
de l'.
>
> How come you *never* get the simplest thing right Thomas?

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

Am 14.10.2023 um 15:07 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> On 2023-10-14 12:13:47 +0000, Python said:
>
>> Le 14/10/2023 à 09:22, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>> ...
>>> I personally think,
>>
>> We don't care about what you think ; you are demented Thomas.
>>
>>> that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron'
>>
>> This is not the real title, this not even proper French.
>
> This isn't the first time he has been told that. In my comment (written
> after yours, I fear, but I hadn't read far enough) I said he had made
> three errors, but actually it was four, because he wrote d' rather than
> de l'.

I'm so sorry. But I had no French in school.

Actually I'm trying to learn some French right now, but not with much
success.

I can decipher French texts to some extend, but I'm unable to write
French without errors.

TH

Am 14.10.2023 um 15:04 schrieb Dono.:
> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 12:20:08 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 06.10.2023 um 01:55 schrieb Richard Hertz:
>>> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras
>>> took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an
>>> entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth.
>>>
>>> At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work
>>> by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR
>>> span of time.
>> I personally think,
>
>
> No one cares what you think, crank
>

I do, hence you are wrong, because the set of people who care is not empty.

TH

On 2023-10-15 05:59:02 +0000, Thomas Heger said:

> Am 14.10.2023 um 15:07 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden:
>> On 2023-10-14 12:13:47 +0000, Python said:
>>
>>> Le 14/10/2023 à 09:22, Thomas Heger a écrit :
>>> ...
>>>> I personally think,
>>>
>>> We don't care about what you think ; you are demented Thomas.
>>>
>>>> that Poincare's 'Sur le dynamic d'electron'
>>>
>>> This is not the real title, this not even proper French.
>>
>> This isn't the first time he has been told that. In my comment (written
>> after yours, I fear, but I hadn't read far enough) I said he had made
>> three errors, but actually it was four, because he wrote d' rather than
>> de l'.
>
> I'm so sorry. But I had no French in school.

What's that got to do with it? You can find out what Poincaré's paper
was called by searching on the web. It takes abot 5 seconds. You can
then copy-paste what you find. No knowledge of French is needed (though
it helps).
>
> Actually I'm trying to learn some French right now, but not with much success.
>
> I can decipher French texts to some extend, but I'm unable to write
> French without errors.
>
> TH

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am 14.10.2023 um 15:04 schrieb Dono.:
>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 12:20:08 AM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
>>>> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago,
>>>> Pythagoras took advantage of his position in ancient greek
>>>> civilization to plagiarize an entire body of mathematics developed
>>>> 1,000 years before his birth. At least, he had decency and dug into
>>>> developments that preceded his work by a millennium. Einstein just
>>>> plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR span of time.
>>> I personally think,
>> No one cares what you think, crank
>
> I do, hence you are wrong, because the set of people who care is not
> empty.

it looks like a burned-out fuse or something. Talk about the history of
Barlin. In physics you know mostly nothing. Yes, 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗴𝗶𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘇𝗲, that's how
physics works, today and anytime. The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what
you plagiarize.

when I add my "𝗢𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗗𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗴𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗠𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗞𝗼𝗲𝗿𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗠𝗼𝗱𝗲𝗹" to
relativity, it's 𝗮𝗻_𝗮𝗱𝗱, not a take. Here you have capitalist america 2023.

𝗦𝘁𝘂𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀_𝗣𝗿𝗼𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗔𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗿_𝗠𝗲𝗻𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗮𝗹_𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝘁𝘀_𝗥𝗲𝗺𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗱_𝗙𝗿𝗼𝗺_𝗠𝗲𝗻’𝘀_𝗕𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗺𝘀
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tampons in their restrooms. The move was to allow females, who identified
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On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago, Pythagoras
> took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization to plagiarize an
> entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before his birth.
>
> At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his work
> by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré within 1 YEAR
> span of time.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118
>
> BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other
> pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000 years
> before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in particular
> mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other technologies, like
> how to make paper, powder, etc.
>
> Western science is a fucking joke.
Just because Pizzaro savagely strangled the Inca King, you get all offended.. Aside from your overstatements, it is true that the idea that science began in Ionian Greece is a myth, as shown by Robin Dunbar's book, The Trouble With Science. The science of archaeoastronomy was widespread, including knowledge of the difference between the sidereal and tropical years in Egypt, Stonehenge, and Chichen Itza long before Hipparchus. Now, "higher learning" institutions such as Harvard are teaching pseudoscientific nonsense like CRT and Postmodernism, which deny objective reality, as does relativity. Fortunately, we have Chinese scientists deconstructing relativity.

Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago,
> > Pythagoras took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization
> > to plagiarize an entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before
> > his birth.
> >
> > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his
> > work by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré
> > within 1 YEAR span of time.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118
> >
> > BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other
> > pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000
> > years before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in
> > particular mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other
> > technologies, like how to make paper, powder, etc.
> >
> > Western science is a fucking joke.
>
> Just because Pizzaro savagely strangled the Inca King, you get all
> offended. Aside from your overstatements, it is true that the idea that
> science began in Ionian Greece is a myth, as shown by Robin Dunbar's book,
> The Trouble With Science. The science of archaeoastronomy was widespread,
> including knowledge of the difference between the sidereal and tropical
> years in Egypt, Stonehenge, and Chichen Itza long before Hipparchus. Now,
> "higher learning" institutions such as Harvard are teaching
> pseudoscientific nonsense like CRT and Postmodernism, which deny objective
> reality, as does relativity. Fortunately, we have Chinese scientists
> deconstructing relativity.

Of course relativity must be completely wrong.
It conflicts with Marxist philosophy and dialectic materialism.

Any good Maoist knows that relativity is 'the epitome of bourgeois
science', which is wrong, since it conflicts with proletarian science.

Off to a reeducation camp with those relativists,

Jan

On 10/15/2023 4:17 AM, Reilies Bahmutov wrote:
> The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what you plagiarize.

That's why I think you, Hanson, is just an "engineer." You're devoid of
an individual's power of independent thinking. Understanding works of
others is plagiarizing to you because an "engineer" never understands
anything beyond its application potentials.

Fuck off you "engineer"!

On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:09:26 PM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago,
> > > Pythagoras took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization
> > > to plagiarize an entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before
> > > his birth.
> > >
> > > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his
> > > work by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré
> > > within 1 YEAR span of time.
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118
> > >
> > > BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other
> > > pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000
> > > years before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in
> > > particular mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other
> > > technologies, like how to make paper, powder, etc.
> > >
> > > Western science is a fucking joke.
> >
> > Just because Pizzaro savagely strangled the Inca King, you get all
> > offended. Aside from your overstatements, it is true that the idea that
> > science began in Ionian Greece is a myth, as shown by Robin Dunbar's book,
> > The Trouble With Science. The science of archaeoastronomy was widespread,
> > including knowledge of the difference between the sidereal and tropical
> > years in Egypt, Stonehenge, and Chichen Itza long before Hipparchus. Now,
> > "higher learning" institutions such as Harvard are teaching
> > pseudoscientific nonsense like CRT and Postmodernism, which deny objective
> > reality, as does relativity. Fortunately, we have Chinese scientists
> > deconstructing relativity.
> Of course relativity must be completely wrong.
> It conflicts with Marxist philosophy and dialectic materialism.
>
> Any good Maoist knows that relativity is 'the epitome of bourgeois
> science', which is wrong, since it conflicts with proletarian science.
>
> Off to a reeducation camp with those relativists,
>
> Jan
As usual, you resort to straw man tactics. Mei Xiaochun does not base his criticisms on Marxist assumptions. It is relativity that is an ideology and not a science.

On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 22:09:26 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:55:31?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > Cretin relativists should learn from this topic. 2500 years ago,
> > > Pythagoras took advantage of his position in ancient greek civilization
> > > to plagiarize an entire body of mathematics developed 1,000 years before
> > > his birth.
> > >
> > > At least, he had decency and dug into developments that preceded his
> > > work by a millennium. Einstein just plagiarized Lorentz and Poincaré
> > > within 1 YEAR span of time.
> > >
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YBC_7289
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IM_67118
> > >
> > > BTW, the european renaissance came after Columbus, Magellan and other
> > > pirates who stole all the science from China and India, developed 3,000
> > > years before their depredation of eastern science and technology, in
> > > particular mathematics, physics, metallurgy, chemistry and other
> > > technologies, like how to make paper, powder, etc.
> > >
> > > Western science is a fucking joke.
> >
> > Just because Pizzaro savagely strangled the Inca King, you get all
> > offended. Aside from your overstatements, it is true that the idea that
> > science began in Ionian Greece is a myth, as shown by Robin Dunbar's book,
> > The Trouble With Science. The science of archaeoastronomy was widespread,
> > including knowledge of the difference between the sidereal and tropical
> > years in Egypt, Stonehenge, and Chichen Itza long before Hipparchus. Now,
> > "higher learning" institutions such as Harvard are teaching
> > pseudoscientific nonsense like CRT and Postmodernism, which deny objective
> > reality, as does relativity. Fortunately, we have Chinese scientists
> > deconstructing relativity.
> Of course relativity must be completely wrong.
> It conflicts with Marxist philosophy and dialectic materialism.

It doesn't. Comerade Lenin himself has marked
your idiot guru as a great modern thinker.

Am 15.10.2023 um 23:20 schrieb Physfitfreak:
> On 10/15/2023 4:17 AM, Reilies Bahmutov wrote:
>> The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what you plagiarize.
>
>
> That's why I think you, Hanson, is just an "engineer." You're devoid of
> an individual's power of independent thinking. Understanding works of
> others is plagiarizing to you because an "engineer" never understands
> anything beyond its application potentials.
>
Actually I'm an engineer, too.

(physics is kind of a hobby for me).

This has some advantages, because engineers are not part of the
scientific community and have absolutely no idea about what the people
involved in science do, when they are not doing science (e.g. when they
go to a party or have a chat with their neighbors).

This is why engineers can ONLY communicate about scientific topics with
physicists and not about social life - for instance-, because they have
absolutely no idea about 'scientific lifestyle'.

This is actually a good thing, because it restricts communication to the
relevant (scientific) topics, while leaving social issues like e.g.
hirarchy in the acedemic community entirely ignored.

Science itselve, on the other hand, is in most cases no real problem for
an engineer, because they have been trained in these topics, too.

So: engineers are better physicist then physicists themselves, because
they are able to ignore, what should be ignored, because they don't know
that in the first place.

TH

Physfitfreak wrote:

> On 10/15/2023 4:17 AM, Reilies Bahmutov wrote:
>> The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what you plagiarize.
>
> That's why I think you, Hanson, is just an "engineer." You're devoid of
> an

you uneducated, unskilled pile of shit, you don't even know what academia
is. There are doctors and professors in engineers. A not engineer is not a
scientist. Fucking stoopid.

lol, 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗼𝗼𝗻_𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 my ass. The gay america still shit outdoors, back
in their garden.

𝗡𝗔𝗦𝗔_𝗮𝘀𝗸𝗲𝗱_𝗜𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗮_𝘁𝗼_𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗹_𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺_𝗶𝘁𝘀_𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗻𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘆_–_𝘀𝗽𝗮𝗰𝗲_𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗰𝘆_𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗲𝗳
A US delegation was impressed by the Chandrayaan-3 mission’s payload, ISRO
head claims
https://r%74.com/india/585049-india-lunar-mission-nasa/

Yeah, India should sell them its technology, as 𝗮𝗹𝗹_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗡𝗮𝘇𝗶𝘀_𝗮𝘁_𝗡𝗔𝗦𝗔 are
dead by now.

Nice way to lure a BRICS member.

On 10/16/2023 12:12 PM, Randale Babaitsev wrote:
> Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> On 10/15/2023 4:17 AM, Reilies Bahmutov wrote:
>>> The point is 𝘁𝗼_𝗮𝗱𝗱_𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 near what you plagiarize.
>>
>> That's why I think you, Hanson, is just an "engineer." You're devoid of
>> an
>
> you uneducated, unskilled pile of shit, you don't even know what academia
> is. There are doctors and professors in engineers. A not engineer is not a
> scientist. Fucking stoopid.
>
> lol, 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝗺𝗼𝗼𝗻_𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 my ass. The gay america still shit outdoors, back
> in their garden.
>

Got your "engineer" ass in one glance, didn't I. You don't know how you
shout "I'm just a fucking 'engineer' handmaid" when you step into where
scientists gather. All that scientists need to do to notice that is to
turn and see you have a white apron on you and a white funny looking
"cook"s hat on, often with a mustache on the face where it doesn't
belong. An "engineer" is a cook stepping into a room full of nutrition
scientists.

That easy to see!

Am 17.10.2023 um 03:40 schrieb Physfitfreak:

>> still shit outdoors, back
>> in their garden.
>>
> An "engineer" is a cook stepping into a room full of nutrition
> scientists.
>

Well, I actually like this metaphor, even if you have meant it as an isult.

TH