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by: Maciej Wozniak - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 05:18 UTC

Apart of mathematical, strict and predictable
algorithms, basing on order - there are others.
Ant algorithm, evolutionary algorithm, and more.
They shouldn't be called algorithms, IMO, they're
mot matching the definition, but I won't insist on
that; they exist, they're not basing on order but
oppositely - on chaos, they give solutions, mostly
for optimizing-like problems.And they are -
unpredictable.

So, observation. Order or chaos? Of course, the
former. You can never know what an observer
will REALLY observe, you can only have some
guesses about it. What science wants to get
is not one-and-only-right description, it's an
better-or-worse-optimized description.

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by: Leonides Bagaev Lebo - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 22:42 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> So, observation. Order or chaos? Of course, the former. You can never
>> know what an observer will REALLY observe, you can only have some
>> guesses about it. What science wants to get is not one-and-only-right
>> description, it's an better-or-worse-optimized description.
>
> Phenomenon repeat but not exactly the same in order.
> A phenomenon will never repeat exact.. forever.

why not. You have to make sure you undrestand 𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀. Above 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗺𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗼, say
𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗶𝘁𝘆, it's mostly exact, since it converges 𝘁𝗼_1. The 𝗺𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗼_𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻 is
somehow exact, if not turbulence occurred, but the 𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘂𝗺_𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻 is NEVER
exact. Here some proofs.

𝗧𝗼𝗽_𝗦𝗲𝗰𝗿𝗲𝘁_𝗨𝗦_𝗳𝗶𝗹𝗲𝘀_𝗼𝗻_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮_𝗮𝗿𝗲_𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴_–_𝗖𝗡𝗡
Former President Donald Trump wanted to declassify the documents, but the
FBI and CIA fought to prevent him
https://r%74.com/news/589175-cnn-trump-russia-documents/

lol, tomorrow they will say that the original 𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗶𝘁𝘆_𝗽𝗮𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀 of Einstine
are missing. Lol.

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by: Physfitfreak - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 01:09 UTC

On 12/16/2023 4:42 PM, Leonides Bagaev Leboperov wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>> So, observation. Order or chaos? Of course, the former. You can never
>>> know what an observer will REALLY observe, you can only have some
>>> guesses about it. What science wants to get is not one-and-only-right
>>> description, it's an better-or-worse-optimized description.
>>
>> Phenomenon repeat but not exactly the same in order.
>> A phenomenon will never repeat exact.. forever.
>
> why not. You have to make sure you undrestand 𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀. Above 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗺𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗼, say
> 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗶𝘁𝘆, it's mostly exact, since it converges 𝘁𝗼_1. The 𝗺𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗼_𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻 is
> somehow exact, if not turbulence occurred, but the 𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘂𝗺_𝗱𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻 is NEVER
> exact. Here some proofs.
>
> 𝗧𝗼𝗽_𝗦𝗲𝗰𝗿𝗲𝘁_𝗨𝗦_𝗳𝗶𝗹𝗲𝘀_𝗼𝗻_𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮_𝗮𝗿𝗲_𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴_–_𝗖𝗡𝗡
> Former President Donald Trump wanted to declassify the documents, but the
> FBI and CIA fought to prevent him
> https://r%74.com/news/589175-cnn-trump-russia-documents/
>
> lol, tomorrow they will say that the original 𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗶𝘁𝘆_𝗽𝗮𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀 of Einstine
> are missing. Lol.

Oh, now you're bringing Mitch back to sci.physics? Screw you Hanson.

Subject	Author
Observation - order or chaos	Maciej Wozniak
Re: Observation - order or chaos	Leonides Bagaev Leboperov
Re: Observation - order or chaos	palsing
Re: Observation - order or chaos	Physfitfreak