For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
of enlightenment?

https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:16:51 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> of enlightenment?
>
> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75

Is there anything you would like to say about this piece?

--

Rick C.

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On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:16:51 PM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> of enlightenment?
>
> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75

This all smacks of Orwell's the Ministry of Truth. God, was he ever prescient!

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:16:51 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> of enlightenment?
>
> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75

Roger A. Pielke Jr. (born November 2, 1968) is an American political scientist and professor, and was the director of the Sports Governance Center within the Department of Athletics at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado Boulder.[1]...

Stop right there. The moron is a high school dropout.

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On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:16:51 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> of enlightenment?
>
> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75

More rubbish from Zero Hedge.

--
Bill Sloman. Sydney

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:20:57 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 4:16:51 PM UTC-7, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> > For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> > of enlightenment?
> >
> > https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
>
> This all smacks of Orwell's the Ministry of Truth. God, was he ever prescient!

But what he foresaw is a whole lot closer to the fossil carbon extraction industries getting together to deny global warming so that they can keep on getting paid for dogging fossil carbon and selling it as fuel for a few more years, than it is to more honest folk getting together to block their flagrant lies. The Ministry of Truth lied in ways that suited the people in power, and if you dig up a lot of coal, oil and gas you've got a lot of power (at the moment).

Sewage Sweeper hasn't got the wit to tell truth from lies, so he misses that point.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On 9/17/2023 9:54 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:16:51 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
>> of enlightenment?
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
>
> Roger A. Pielke Jr. (born November 2, 1968) is an American political scientist and professor, and was the director of the Sports Governance Center within the Department of Athletics at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado Boulder.[1]...
>
> Stop right there. The moron is a high school dropout.

They had to pad out the list of "coalition of 1,609 scientist" with a
bunch of people like:

Ton J.T. Grimberg, Oil & Gas Professional, Finance Adviser

Wynn Williamson, co-founder and managing partner of real estate
developer BWRE

Mario Blais, Science and Mathematics Teacher

Magnus Cederlöf, Software Specialist, Stockholm

Mr. Anthony Jackson, Bachelor of Arts degree, Bachelor of Laws degree,
retired

David Knox, IT professional, bachelors in business (Uni of South
Australia) and a Masters degree in business administration (Charles
Sturt University)

Neil Killion, MA in Psychology, active in the climate debate, member of
the Saltbush club

Drieu Godefridi PhD, Law, Author of several books

Jaak Peeters, Psychologist and Writer

Sherri Lange, CEO North American Platform Against Wind Power, Great
Lakes Wind Truth

etc..

Sure are a lot of lawyers, real estate hustlers, NIMBYs, code monkeys,
computer dorks, generalized nobodies, and maybe even some stoners I went
to art school with on this list of "scientists"

On 9/18/2023 12:25 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:16:51 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
>> of enlightenment?
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
>
> More rubbish from Zero Hedge.
>

Once you click through to the actual document signed by "1600
scientists" it becomes "scientists and professionals" and skimming
through the list I think there's that if I titled myself "Professional
part-time big booty babe-hunter, and full-time climate skeptic" I would
qualify to be a signatory

On 9/18/2023 1:02 AM, bitrex wrote:
> On 9/18/2023 12:25 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:16:51 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
>>> of enlightenment?
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
>>
>> More rubbish from Zero Hedge.
>>
>
> Once you click through to the actual document signed by "1600
> scientists" it becomes "scientists and professionals" and skimming
> through the list I think there's that if I titled myself "Professional
> part-time big booty babe-hunter, and full-time climate skeptic" I would
> qualify to be a signatory

"I think there's a good chance that if I titled myself..." rather.

Actually maybe it should be reversed and I could be a full-time big
booty babe-hunter and part-time climate skeptic, I'm not entirely sure
if that would give me more or less cred in climate-skeptic circles.

On a sunny day (Mon, 18 Sep 2023 00:16:40 +0100) it happened Cursitor Doom
<cd@notformail.com> wrote in <c32fgidf5apug64kn13kjvsigakkcokags@4ax.com>:

>For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
>of enlightenment?
>
>https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75

A quote from that link:
"In response last month, more than 1,600 scientists, among them two Nobel physics laureates, Clauser and Ivar Giaever of Norway,
signed a declaration stating that there is no climate emergency, and that climate advocacy has devolved into mass hysteria."

I have been saying this all the time, it is a similar hysteria like witch hunts were in medieval times!

It is all for profit selling snake oil fabricated and sustained by the US (remember that polar bear guy Al Gore?)
Maybe WW3 and the resulting mess will make people concentrate on what IS essential for survival.

After the Roman empire fell - and there are so many similarities: uprising of the slaves, Nero playing the fiddle in a burning Rome
like Trump twittering -- bad leaders, a bad army and strategies, religious changes..., religious wars -
followed by the dark ages in Europe.. hundreds of years setback, climate change, mass migration.

Like today's events?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empire

History has this tendency to repeat itself!!!!

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 3:15:18 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 18 Sep 2023 00:16:40 +0100) it happened Cursitor Doom
> <c...@notformail.com> wrote in <c32fgidf5apug64kn...@4ax.com>:
> >For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> >of enlightenment?
> >
> >https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
> A quote from that link:
> "In response last month, more than 1,600 scientists, among them two Nobel physics laureates, Clauser and Ivar Giaever of Norway,
> signed a declaration stating that there is no climate emergency, and that climate advocacy has devolved into mass hysteria."

One of the Nobel Laureates knows about entangled photons and the other about Josephson junctions. Their expertise in climate science has yet to be demonstrated.
> I have been saying this all the time, it is a similar hysteria like witch hunts were in medieval times!

You can say it as much as you like, but that doesn't make it true or even faintly plausible. There was no body of peer-reviewed science behind the medieval witch hunts - that technique hadn't even been invented back then - and back then many merely reasonable people though that it was nonsense.
> It is all for profit selling snake oil fabricated and sustained by the US (remember that polar bear guy Al Gore?)
> Maybe WW3 and the resulting mess will make people concentrate on what IS essential for survival.

The people who are selling the snake oil that you are swallowing are doing it for profit - they want to be able to keep on digging up fossil carbon and selling it to be burnt as fuel. Fooling gullible twits like you and Flyguy and John Larkin is all that they can manage, but they seem to think that it is worth effort.
> After the Roman empire fell - and there are so many similarities: uprising of the slaves, Nero playing the fiddle in a burning Rome like Trump twittering -- bad leaders, a bad army and strategies, religious changes..., religious wars - followed by the dark ages in Europe.. hundreds of years setback, climate change, mass migration.

Anthropogenic global warming is providing all the climate change we need to mess up society. Denying that it is happening isn't a good route to stability.
> Like today's events?
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empire
>
> History has this tendency to repeat itself!!!!

You don't know much about the fall of the Roman Empire either.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 01:02:50 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>On 9/18/2023 12:25 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:16:51?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
>>> of enlightenment?
>>>
>>> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
>>
>> More rubbish from Zero Hedge.
>>
>
>Once you click through to the actual document signed by "1600
>scientists" it becomes "scientists and professionals" and skimming
>through the list I think there's that if I titled myself "Professional
>part-time big booty babe-hunter, and full-time climate skeptic" I would
>qualify to be a signatory

What is really shameful is that those lay-people out of the total
contributors have carried out their investigation of the subject with
more scientific rigor than the so-called "experts" - who are clearly
being paid to indorse the alarmist claptrap the organizations that
hire them incessantly spout.

On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 21:25:17 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

>On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:16:51?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
>> of enlightenment?
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
>
>More rubbish from Zero Hedge.

That's a bit rich coming from someone who constantly cites Wikipedia!

On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:16:51 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> of enlightenment?
>
> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75

This describes you to a T:

With little knowledge comes great confidence: Study reveals relationship between knowledge and attitudes toward science

"The results revealed two key findings. First, overconfidence tended to grow faster than knowledge, reaching its peak at intermediate levels of knowledge. Second, respondents with intermediate knowledge and high confidence also displayed the least positive attitudes towards science."

It boils down to you being too lazy to delve deeper into the subject matter, which would prevent you from forming a strong opinion based on total nonsense. And you don't need to go too deep to realize the fraud of sites like Zero Hedge.

https://phys.org/news/2023-09-knowledge-great-confidence-reveals-relationship.html

Of course, the study may be imperfect. It could be more or less one of those confirmation bias things.

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 12:45:26 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
> On 9/17/2023 9:54 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:16:51 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> >> of enlightenment?
> >>
> >> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
> >
> > Roger A. Pielke Jr. (born November 2, 1968) is an American political scientist and professor, and was the director of the Sports Governance Center within the Department of Athletics at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado Boulder.[1]...
> >
> > Stop right there. The moron is a high school dropout.
> They had to pad out the list of "coalition of 1,609 scientist" with a
> bunch of people like:
>
> Ton J.T. Grimberg, Oil & Gas Professional, Finance Adviser
>
> Wynn Williamson, co-founder and managing partner of real estate
> developer BWRE
>
> Mario Blais, Science and Mathematics Teacher
>
> Magnus Cederlöf, Software Specialist, Stockholm
>
> Mr. Anthony Jackson, Bachelor of Arts degree, Bachelor of Laws degree,
> retired
>
> David Knox, IT professional, bachelors in business (Uni of South
> Australia) and a Masters degree in business administration (Charles
> Sturt University)
>
> Neil Killion, MA in Psychology, active in the climate debate, member of
> the Saltbush club
>
> Drieu Godefridi PhD, Law, Author of several books
>
> Jaak Peeters, Psychologist and Writer
>
> Sherri Lange, CEO North American Platform Against Wind Power, Great
> Lakes Wind Truth
>
> etc..
>
> Sure are a lot of lawyers, real estate hustlers, NIMBYs, code monkeys,
> computer dorks, generalized nobodies, and maybe even some stoners I went
> to art school with on this list of "scientists"

Exactly- a bunch of useless self-promoters on the periphery of society....

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 7:29:59 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 21:25:17 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
> <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> >On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 9:16:51?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> >> of enlightenment?
> >>
> >> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
> >
> >More rubbish from Zero Hedge.
>
> That's a bit rich coming from someone who constantly cites Wikipedia!

I cite Wikipedia when it provides a nice bite-sized chunk of information that I happen to know is correct. There are occasions when I've cited it with reservations (and said so), but mostly it's pretty reliable.

When I do cite it, the URL tells you where the information is coming from.

When you post a link to Zero Hedge you disguise it as a tiny url , so you clearly know that it isn't seen as any kind of reliable source. You are clearly a lying hypocrite - but we have know that for years.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 03:35:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:16:51?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
>> of enlightenment?
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
>
>
>This describes you to a T:
>
>With little knowledge comes great confidence: Study reveals relationship between knowledge and attitudes toward science
>
>"The results revealed two key findings. First, overconfidence tended to grow faster than knowledge, reaching its peak at intermediate levels of knowledge. Second, respondents with intermediate knowledge and high confidence also displayed the least positive attitudes towards science."
>
>It boils down to you being too lazy to delve deeper into the subject matter, which would prevent you from forming a strong opinion based on total nonsense. And you don't need to go too deep to realize the fraud of sites like Zero Hedge

I'm afraid I can't let you get away with that, Fred. I acquired a
third of a ton (literally) of physical, hard-copy reference books and
the world's most trusted encyclopaedias plus 400 further reference
books on DVD covering the period from 1860 to 2009 and spent the next
two years studying what they have to tell us about CO2 levels. I've
posted links to my findings many times here as you will remember. I
never believe *anything* I read online from *any* source when it comes
to *any* subject which is politically-loaded. As far as I'm concerned,
they're all potentially compromised and not worthy of serious
consideration. I probably know more about historical CO2 levels than
anyone anywhere on Usenet. I know what I'm talking about. You and that
idiot Bill Sloman don't. You keep falling for all the BS the MSM keeps
forcing down you to such an extent it's becoming embarrassing.

..
>
>https://phys.org/news/2023-09-knowledge-great-confidence-reveals-relationship.html
>
>Of course, the study may be imperfect. It could be more or less one of those confirmation bias things.

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:30:50 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 03:35:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:16:51?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> >> of enlightenment?
> >>
> >> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
> >
> >
> >This describes you to a T:
> >
> >With little knowledge comes great confidence: Study reveals relationship between knowledge and attitudes toward science
> >
> >"The results revealed two key findings. First, overconfidence tended to grow faster than knowledge, reaching its peak at intermediate levels of knowledge. Second, respondents with intermediate knowledge and high confidence also displayed the least positive attitudes towards science."
> >
> >It boils down to you being too lazy to delve deeper into the subject matter, which would prevent you from forming a strong opinion based on total nonsense. And you don't need to go too deep to realize the fraud of sites like Zero Hedge
>
> I'm afraid I can't let you get away with that, Fred. I acquired a third of a ton (literally) of physical, hard-copy reference books and the world's most trusted encyclopaedias plus 400 further reference books on DVD covering the period from 1860 to 2009 and spent the next two years studying what they have to tell us about CO2 levels.

From what you've posted, every last one of them was out-of-date, and your enthusiasm for trusting 1890's atmospheric CO2 level measurements does rather depend on your assumption that the atmosphere in the labs of the period was representative of the atmosphere as a whole.

https://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/history_legacy/charles_david_keeling_biography.html

When Charles Keeling started measuring it properly, he found that he had to stick his observatory at top o Manua Loa to get stable and consistent measurements.

> I've posted links to my findings many times here as you will remember. I never believe *anything* I read online from *any* source when it comes to *any* subject which is politically-loaded.

And you want it politically loaded in way that suits your silly ideas.

> As far as I'm concerned, they're all potentially compromised and not worthy of serious consideration. I probably know more about historical CO2 levels than anyone anywhere on Usenet.

You may know about historical measurements, but what you "know" about historical levels reflects your enthusiasm for cherry picking. The real source of historical data is ice core samples, which go back about 800,000 years but you have this fairy story about them being concocted by a massive conspiracy of climate scientists,

> I know what I'm talking about.

You do seem to think that, but in reality you've merely got a perfectly splendid delusion which you've elaborated to an absurd degree, but it's still just a self-serving delusion designed to make you feel good about the "superior insight" which you get by staring up your own backside.

> You and that idiot Bill Sloman don't.

And you congratulate yourself on your expertise and superior insight. It's total bollocks but your head is far up your own bottom that bollocks are all you can see,

> You keep falling for all the BS the MSM keeps forcing down you to such an extent it's becoming embarrassing.

The peer-reviewed scientific literature isn't part of the main stream media.. The more respectable bits of the main stream media report on the actual science from time to time, but the bits owned by Rupert Murdoch tell the story that the fossil carbon extraction industry is paying them to propagate. The even wackier bits that you seem to read may not even be being bribed to lie.

> >https://phys.org/news/2023-09-knowledge-great-confidence-reveals-relationship.html
> >
> >Of course, the study may be imperfect. It could be more or less one of those confirmation bias things.

Cursitor Doom's spectacular over-confidence and absurd ignorance do fit the study.

--
Bill Sloman. Sydney

On 18.09.23 1:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> of enlightenment?
>
NO!!!!!!!

On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 08:03:50 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

>On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:30:50?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 03:35:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:16:51?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> >> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
>> >> of enlightenment?
>> >>
>> >> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
>> >
>> >
>> >This describes you to a T:
>> >
>> >With little knowledge comes great confidence: Study reveals relationship between knowledge and attitudes toward science
>> >
>> >"The results revealed two key findings. First, overconfidence tended to grow faster than knowledge, reaching its peak at intermediate levels of knowledge. Second, respondents with intermediate knowledge and high confidence also displayed the least positive attitudes towards science."
>> >
>> >It boils down to you being too lazy to delve deeper into the subject matter, which would prevent you from forming a strong opinion based on total nonsense. And you don't need to go too deep to realize the fraud of sites like Zero Hedge
>>
>> I'm afraid I can't let you get away with that, Fred. I acquired a third of a ton (literally) of physical, hard-copy reference books and the world's most trusted encyclopaedias plus 400 further reference books on DVD covering the period from 1860 to 2009 and spent the next two years studying what they have to tell us about CO2 levels.
>
>From what you've posted, every last one of them was out-of-date, and your enthusiasm for trusting 1890's atmospheric CO2 level measurements does rather depend on your assumption that the atmosphere in the labs of the period was representative of the atmosphere as a whole.
>
>https://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/history_legacy/charles_david_keeling_biography.html
>
>When Charles Keeling started measuring it properly, he found that he had to stick his observatory at top o Manua Loa to get stable and consistent measurements.
>
>> I've posted links to my findings many times here as you will remember. I never believe *anything* I read online from *any* source when it comes to *any* subject which is politically-loaded.
>
>And you want it politically loaded in way that suits your silly ideas.
>
>> As far as I'm concerned, they're all potentially compromised and not worthy of serious consideration. I probably know more about historical CO2 levels than anyone anywhere on Usenet.
>
>You may know about historical measurements, but what you "know" about historical levels reflects your enthusiasm for cherry picking. The real source of historical data is ice core samples, which go back about 800,000 years but you have this fairy story about them being concocted by a massive conspiracy of climate scientists,
>
>> I know what I'm talking about.
>
>You do seem to think that, but in reality you've merely got a perfectly splendid delusion which you've elaborated to an absurd degree, but it's still just a self-serving delusion designed to make you feel good about the "superior insight" which you get by staring up your own backside.
>
>> You and that idiot Bill Sloman don't.
>
>And you congratulate yourself on your expertise and superior insight. It's total bollocks but your head is far up your own bottom that bollocks are all you can see,
>
>> You keep falling for all the BS the MSM keeps forcing down you to such an extent it's becoming embarrassing.
>
>The peer-reviewed scientific literature isn't part of the main stream media. The more respectable bits of the main stream media report on the actual science from time to time, but the bits owned by Rupert Murdoch tell the story that the fossil carbon extraction industry is paying them to propagate. The even wackier bits that you seem to read may not even be being bribed to lie.
>
>> >https://phys.org/news/2023-09-knowledge-great-confidence-reveals-relationship.html
>> >
>> >Of course, the study may be imperfect. It could be more or less one of those confirmation bias things.
>
>Cursitor Doom's spectacular over-confidence and absurd ignorance do fit the study.

Bill, you're just a troll and have been for the last 17 years or
thereabouts. You just enjoy stirring the pot and attempting -
unsuccessfully - to appear superior to everyone else.
Fred, OTOH, there is still some hope for. Fred doesn't realise that
he's being manipulated in the classic 'problem-reaction-solution'
technique, which I'd assumed everyone here would be familiar with by
now, but it seems not. Fred, check this out and step outside the box.
Stop doing your unseen masters' bidding.

https://christianobserver.net/what-is-the-hegelian-dialectic/

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:24:05 AM UTC+10, Sjouke Burry wrote:
> On 18.09.23 1:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> > For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch of enlightenment?
> >
> NO!!!!!!!

He thinks that he is enlightened. Sadly, he isn't. What he brings us is smelly heap of half-baked nonsense, but he lacks the insight to realise quite how fatuous his delusions are.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 1:34:41 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 08:03:50 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
> <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
> >On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 11:30:50?PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 03:35:26 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 7:16:51?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> >> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
> >> >> of enlightenment?
> >> >>
> >> >> https://tinyurl.com/bdsc6x75
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >This describes you to a T:
> >> >
> >> >With little knowledge comes great confidence: Study reveals relationship between knowledge and attitudes toward science
> >> >
> >> >"The results revealed two key findings. First, overconfidence tended to grow faster than knowledge, reaching its peak at intermediate levels of knowledge. Second, respondents with intermediate knowledge and high confidence also displayed the least positive attitudes towards science."
> >> >
> >> >It boils down to you being too lazy to delve deeper into the subject matter, which would prevent you from forming a strong opinion based on total nonsense. And you don't need to go too deep to realize the fraud of sites like Zero Hedge
> >>
> >> I'm afraid I can't let you get away with that, Fred. I acquired a third of a ton (literally) of physical, hard-copy reference books and the world's most trusted encyclopaedias plus 400 further reference books on DVD covering the period from 1860 to 2009 and spent the next two years studying what they have to tell us about CO2 levels.
> >
> >From what you've posted, every last one of them was out-of-date, and your enthusiasm for trusting 1890's atmospheric CO2 level measurements does rather depend on your assumption that the atmosphere in the labs of the period was representative of the atmosphere as a whole.
> >
> >https://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/history_legacy/charles_david_keeling_biography.html
> >
> >When Charles Keeling started measuring it properly, he found that he had to stick his observatory at top o Manua Loa to get stable and consistent measurements.
> >
> >> I've posted links to my findings many times here as you will remember. I never believe *anything* I read online from *any* source when it comes to *any* subject which is politically-loaded.
> >
> >And you want it politically loaded in way that suits your silly ideas.
> >
> >> As far as I'm concerned, they're all potentially compromised and not worthy of serious consideration. I probably know more about historical CO2 levels than anyone anywhere on Usenet.
> >
> >You may know about historical measurements, but what you "know" about historical levels reflects your enthusiasm for cherry picking. The real source of historical data is ice core samples, which go back about 800,000 years but you have this fairy story about them being concocted by a massive conspiracy of climate scientists,
> >
> >> I know what I'm talking about.
> >
> >You do seem to think that, but in reality you've merely got a perfectly splendid delusion which you've elaborated to an absurd degree, but it's still just a self-serving delusion designed to make you feel good about the "superior insight" which you get by staring up your own backside.
> >
> >> You and that idiot Bill Sloman don't.
> >
> >And you congratulate yourself on your expertise and superior insight. It's total bollocks but your head is far up your own bottom that bollocks are all you can see,
> >
> >> You keep falling for all the BS the MSM keeps forcing down you to such an extent it's becoming embarrassing.
> >
> >The peer-reviewed scientific literature isn't part of the main stream media. The more respectable bits of the main stream media report on the actual science from time to time, but the bits owned by Rupert Murdoch tell the story that the fossil carbon extraction industry is paying them to propagate. The even wackier bits that you seem to read may not even be being bribed to lie.
> >
> >> >https://phys.org/news/2023-09-knowledge-great-confidence-reveals-relationship.html
> >> >
> >> >Of course, the study may be imperfect. It could be more or less one of those confirmation bias things.
> >
> >Cursitor Doom's spectacular over-confidence and absurd ignorance do fit the study.
>
> Bill, you're just a troll and have been for the last 17 years or thereabouts.

No. You are the anonymous troll here.

> You just enjoy stirring the pot and attempting - unsuccessfully - to appear superior to everyone else.

I'm certainly superior to you, Flygy, a a and few others who share some of your lunatic delusions.

There are people who post here who do know as least as much about what they are talking about as I do, and I'm much less likely to argue with them and do it rather more politely when our opinions do differ.

> Fred, OTOH, there is still some hope for. Fred doesn't realise that he's being manipulated in the classic 'problem-reaction-solution' technique, which I'd assumed everyone here would be familiar with by now, but it seems not. Fred, check this out and step outside the box.
>
> Stop doing your unseen masters' bidding.
>
> https://christianobserver.net/what-is-the-hegelian-dialectic/

So now you are a philosopher. You are just as impressive in that role as you are as climate scientist - utterly despicable.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 17:23:55 +0200, Sjouke Burry
<burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:

>On 18.09.23 1:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> For those of you despairing of mankind's future, may I bring a touch
>> of enlightenment?
>>
>NO!!!!!!!

That's the perfect example of the unforgivable trait of willful
ignorance. We are where we are precisely because of this kind of
obduracy.