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 by: The Starmaker - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 07:01 UTC

Most of yous
already know,
*every year*
kooks feel
compelled
to write a
book
about Einstein.

This year
we have
Samuel Graydon’s
“Einstein in Time and Space”

(time and space,
space and time,
how original!)

But here is part of the review
from the WSJ:

"In his acknowledgments, the author admits that he “lightly
fictionalized” a few chapters about
representative days at Einstein’s office.
Given the wealth of material on hand, a summary of Einstein’s life
hardly needs any false embellishments."

The Truth is...
all books about
Albert Einstein
are
'highly fictionalized'.

There isn't not one
book ever been written
about Albert Einstein
that contains any truth.

If I'm wrong, name the book?

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.

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 by: Ross Finlayson - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:48 UTC

On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:01:31 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Most of yous
> already know,
> *every year*
> kooks feel
> compelled
> to write a
> book
> about Einstein.
>
> This year
> we have
> Samuel Graydon’s
> “Einstein in Time and Space”
>
> (time and space,
> space and time,
> how original!)
>
> But here is part of the review
> from the WSJ:
>
> "In his acknowledgments, the author admits that he “lightly
> fictionalized” a few chapters about
> representative days at Einstein’s office.
> Given the wealth of material on hand, a summary of Einstein’s life
> hardly needs any false embellishments."
>
>
> The Truth is...
> all books about
> Albert Einstein
> are
> 'highly fictionalized'.
>
> There isn't not one
> book ever been written
> about Albert Einstein
> that contains any truth.
>
> If I'm wrong, name the book?
>
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.

How about the one where he's still alive, and
has an alternate, extended, descendant lineage.

Anyways the only authoritative book about Einstein is by Einstein,
and his final word on the matter is "Out of My Later Years".

Rest is pulp.

In my podcast's I skim through the good parts in the middle,
where he outlines his theory of relativity, and his theory of physics,
and his philosophy of physics, and his opinion on his opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson "Reading from Einstein...".

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 by: Physfitfreak - Tue, 23 Jan 2024 19:34 UTC

On 1/23/2024 1:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> his year
> we have
> Samuel Graydon’s
> “Einstein in Time and Space”

Oh, not again back to Einstein. I thought you had recovered from that
episode.

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 by: Ross Finlayson - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 02:26 UTC

On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 9:48:18 AM UTC-8, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 11:01:31 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Most of yous
> > already know,
> > *every year*
> > kooks feel
> > compelled
> > to write a
> > book
> > about Einstein.
> >
> > This year
> > we have
> > Samuel Graydon’s
> > “Einstein in Time and Space”
> >
> > (time and space,
> > space and time,
> > how original!)
> >
> > But here is part of the review
> > from the WSJ:
> >
> > "In his acknowledgments, the author admits that he “lightly
> > fictionalized” a few chapters about
> > representative days at Einstein’s office.
> > Given the wealth of material on hand, a summary of Einstein’s life
> > hardly needs any false embellishments."
> >
> >
> > The Truth is...
> > all books about
> > Albert Einstein
> > are
> > 'highly fictionalized'.
> >
> > There isn't not one
> > book ever been written
> > about Albert Einstein
> > that contains any truth.
> >
> > If I'm wrong, name the book?
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> How about the one where he's still alive, and
> has an alternate, extended, descendant lineage.
>
> Anyways the only authoritative book about Einstein is by Einstein,
> and his final word on the matter is "Out of My Later Years".
>
> Rest is pulp.
>
> In my podcast's I skim through the good parts in the middle,
> where he outlines his theory of relativity, and his theory of physics,
> and his philosophy of physics, and his opinion on his opinion.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson "Reading from Einstein...".

What, you never heard that one before?

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The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> There isn't not one
> book ever been written
> about Albert Einstein
> that contains any truth.
>
> If I'm wrong, name the book?

I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
(beware, it is also a scientific biography,
so much of it wil be too difficult for you)

Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
that he had an office next to Einstein,
and that they met on an almost daily basis,
until Einstein's death in 1955.
They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.

What makes you think that Abraham Pais
would have lied directly and completely
about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?

Jan

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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 19:54 UTC

J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > There isn't not one
> > book ever been written
> > about Albert Einstein
> > that contains any truth.
> >
> > If I'm wrong, name the book?
>
> I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
> Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
> (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
> so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
>
> Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
> that he had an office next to Einstein,
> and that they met on an almost daily basis,
> until Einstein's death in 1955.
> They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
>
> What makes you think that Abraham Pais
> would have lied directly and completely
> about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
>
> Jan

Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.

and the bio part contains untruhs according to Amazon reviewers.

Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 20:36 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > There isn't not one
> > > book ever been written
> > > about Albert Einstein
> > > that contains any truth.
> > >
> > > If I'm wrong, name the book?
> >
> > I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
> > Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
> > (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
> > so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
> >
> > Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
> > that he had an office next to Einstein,
> > and that they met on an almost daily basis,
> > until Einstein's death in 1955.
> > They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
> >
> > What makes you think that Abraham Pais
> > would have lied directly and completely
> > about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
> >
> > Jan
>
> Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.
>
> and the bio part contains untruths according to Amazon reviewers.
>
> Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.

I'll begin with just the cover of the book...

"Subtle is the Lord."

Einstein didn't say that. Einstein said "God is subtle, ..."

I could go on and on about *just* the cover of the book...

but let me give you a quote what the author said in his book...

"In all the years I knew
Einstein, I never read any of his papers..." -Abraham Pais, Subtle is
the Lord

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 20:41 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There isn't not one
> > > > book ever been written
> > > > about Albert Einstein
> > > > that contains any truth.
> > > >
> > > > If I'm wrong, name the book?
> > >
> > > I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
> > > Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
> > > (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
> > > so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
> > >
> > > Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
> > > that he had an office next to Einstein,
> > > and that they met on an almost daily basis,
> > > until Einstein's death in 1955.
> > > They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
> > >
> > > What makes you think that Abraham Pais
> > > would have lied directly and completely
> > > about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> > Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.
> >
> > and the bio part contains untruths according to Amazon reviewers.
> >
> > Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.
>
> I'll begin with just the cover of the book...
>
> "Subtle is the Lord."
>
> Einstein didn't say that. Einstein said "God is subtle, ..."
>
> I could go on and on about *just* the cover of the book...
>
> but let me give you a quote what the author said in his book...
>
> "In all the years I knew
> Einstein, I never read any of his papers..." -Abraham Pais, Subtle is
> the Lord

oh, i forgot to mention about the title of the book...

Einstein said..."It makes, of course, no sense..."

--
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 by: The Starmaker - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 21:06 UTC

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There isn't not one
> > > > book ever been written
> > > > about Albert Einstein
> > > > that contains any truth.
> > > >
> > > > If I'm wrong, name the book?
> > >
> > > I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
> > > Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
> > > (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
> > > so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
> > >
> > > Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
> > > that he had an office next to Einstein,
> > > and that they met on an almost daily basis,
> > > until Einstein's death in 1955.
> > > They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
> > >
> > > What makes you think that Abraham Pais
> > > would have lied directly and completely
> > > about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> > Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.
> >
> > and the bio part contains untruths according to Amazon reviewers.
> >
> > Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.
>
> I'll begin with just the cover of the book...
>
> "Subtle is the Lord."
>
> Einstein didn't say that. Einstein said "God is subtle, ..."
>
> I could go on and on about *just* the cover of the book...
>
> but let me give you a quote what the author said in his book...
>
> "In all the years I knew
> Einstein, I never read any of his papers..." -Abraham Pais, Subtle is
> the Lord

I mean, I understand...
somebody said to Pais...

"Hey man, you knew Albert Einstein, why don't you write a book about
him???!!"

"Yeah, I could use the fuckin money but, but,..."

"But WHAT?"

"[WHISPER] I never read any of his papers."

"YOU MEAN ALL THAT TIME YOU KNEW HIM YOU NEVER READ ANY OF HIS FUCKIN
PAPERS???!"

"Why would I need to read his fucking papers, I'm smarter than him!...he
was just a fucking retard! He never looked at me once in the eyes!!!"
"Every time I talked to him he would look the other way!!!"

WHY?"

"I DON'T KNOW,. HE MUST BE A FUCKING RETARD!!!!"

"Well, go read something and write a book, stupid!"

--
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
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 by: The Starmaker - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 01:34 UTC

In otherwords, it is NOT a book about Einstein....

"The first biography to emphasize the physicist's scientific research rather than his life..." -The New York Times

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_is_the_Lord

The Subject heading of this thread is... Books about Einstein.

"about"...refering to Einstein, not his work, rather his life.

Like for example, he didn't like the Germans because they killed one of his cousins, and he like to bang his cousins.

The Starmaker wrote:
>
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There isn't not one
> > > > > book ever been written
> > > > > about Albert Einstein
> > > > > that contains any truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I'm wrong, name the book?
> > > >
> > > > I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
> > > > Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
> > > > (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
> > > > so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
> > > >
> > > > Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
> > > > that he had an office next to Einstein,
> > > > and that they met on an almost daily basis,
> > > > until Einstein's death in 1955.
> > > > They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
> > > >
> > > > What makes you think that Abraham Pais
> > > > would have lied directly and completely
> > > > about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > >
> > > Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.
> > >
> > > and the bio part contains untruths according to Amazon reviewers.
> > >
> > > Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.
> >
> > I'll begin with just the cover of the book...
> >
> > "Subtle is the Lord."
> >
> > Einstein didn't say that. Einstein said "God is subtle, ..."
> >
> > I could go on and on about *just* the cover of the book...
> >
> > but let me give you a quote what the author said in his book...
> >
> > "In all the years I knew
> > Einstein, I never read any of his papers..." -Abraham Pais, Subtle is
> > the Lord
>
> I mean, I understand...
> somebody said to Pais...
>
> "Hey man, you knew Albert Einstein, why don't you write a book about
> him???!!"
>
> "Yeah, I could use the fuckin money but, but,..."
>
> "But WHAT?"
>
> "[WHISPER] I never read any of his papers."
>
> "YOU MEAN ALL THAT TIME YOU KNEW HIM YOU NEVER READ ANY OF HIS FUCKIN
> PAPERS???!"
>
> "Why would I need to read his fucking papers, I'm smarter than him!...he
> was just a fucking retard! He never looked at me once in the eyes!!!"
> "Every time I talked to him he would look the other way!!!"
>
> WHY?"
>
> "I DON'T KNOW,. HE MUST BE A FUCKING RETARD!!!!"
>
> "Well, go read something and write a book, stupid!"
>
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

--
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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:49 UTC

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > There isn't not one
> > > book ever been written
> > > about Albert Einstein
> > > that contains any truth.
> > >
> > > If I'm wrong, name the book?
> >
> > I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
> > Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
> > (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
> > so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
> >
> > Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
> > that he had an office next to Einstein,
> > and that they met on an almost daily basis,
> > until Einstein's death in 1955.
> > They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
> >
> > What makes you think that Abraham Pais
> > would have lied directly and completely
> > about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
> >
> > Jan
>
>
> Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.

Yes, very bad of Pais, isn't it?
BTW, that's what the book is praised for.

> and the bio part contains untruhs according to Amazon reviewers.
>
> Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.

You would have done better to find that out
before making your claim that it is all lies,

Jan

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 11:49 UTC

The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There isn't not one
> > > > book ever been written
> > > > about Albert Einstein
> > > > that contains any truth.
> > > >
> > > > If I'm wrong, name the book?
> > >
> > > I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
> > > Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
> > > (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
> > > so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
> > >
> > > Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
> > > that he had an office next to Einstein,
> > > and that they met on an almost daily basis,
> > > until Einstein's death in 1955.
> > > They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
> > >
> > > What makes you think that Abraham Pais
> > > would have lied directly and completely
> > > about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> > Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.
> >
> > and the bio part contains untruths according to Amazon reviewers.
> >
> > Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.
>
> I'll begin with just the cover of the book...
>
> "Subtle is the Lord."
>
>
> Einstein didn't say that. Einstein said "God is subtle, ..."

Pais said that, on that cover.

Einstein said: "Raffiniert ist der Herrgott, aber boshaft ist er nicht".
You can render that in English in various ways.
The cover of the book is of course Pais' responsibility,
not Einstein's.
> I could go on and on about *just* the cover of the book...

Yes, that's just you. Trivialities above all.
You could have a look at the wikiparticle about it instead,
if reading the book itself is too much for you,
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_is_the_Lord>

Jan

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 by: The Starmaker - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:24 UTC

J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There isn't not one
> > > > > book ever been written
> > > > > about Albert Einstein
> > > > > that contains any truth.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I'm wrong, name the book?
> > > >
> > > > I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
> > > > Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
> > > > (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
> > > > so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
> > > >
> > > > Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
> > > > that he had an office next to Einstein,
> > > > and that they met on an almost daily basis,
> > > > until Einstein's death in 1955.
> > > > They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
> > > >
> > > > What makes you think that Abraham Pais
> > > > would have lied directly and completely
> > > > about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
> > > >
> > > > Jan
> > >
> > > Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.
> > >
> > > and the bio part contains untruths according to Amazon reviewers.
> > >
> > > Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.
> >
> > I'll begin with just the cover of the book...
> >
> > "Subtle is the Lord."
> >
> >
> > Einstein didn't say that. Einstein said "God is subtle, ..."
>
> Pais said that, on that cover.
>
> Einstein said: "Raffiniert ist der Herrgott, aber boshaft ist er nicht".
> You can render that in English in various ways.
> The cover of the book is of course Pais' responsibility,
> not Einstein's.
>
> > I could go on and on about *just* the cover of the book...
>
> Yes, that's just you. Trivialities above all.
> You could have a look at the wikiparticle about it instead,
> if reading the book itself is too much for you,
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_is_the_Lord>
>
> Jan

If he 'realy' knew Einstein he would have known better to use that title
since
Einstein meant otherwise.

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 by: The Starmaker - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:28 UTC

J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There isn't not one
> > > > book ever been written
> > > > about Albert Einstein
> > > > that contains any truth.
> > > >
> > > > If I'm wrong, name the book?
> > >
> > > I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
> > > Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
> > > (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
> > > so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
> > >
> > > Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
> > > that he had an office next to Einstein,
> > > and that they met on an almost daily basis,
> > > until Einstein's death in 1955.
> > > They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
> > >
> > > What makes you think that Abraham Pais
> > > would have lied directly and completely
> > > about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> >
> > Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.
>
> Yes, very bad of Pais, isn't it?
> BTW, that's what the book is praised for.
>
> > and the bio part contains untruhs according to Amazon reviewers.
> >
> > Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.
>
> You would have done better to find that out
> before making your claim that it is all lies,
>
> Jan

i did not see any prasie for the bio part...just fake reviews from
famouse people scrathing eachs others back.

Wake up! Fake Reviews. Solicitced reviews..

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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 by: The Starmaker - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:57 UTC

"In all the years I knew Einstein, I never read any of his
papers..." -Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord

Since Pais said he never read any of Einstein's papers all the years
he knew Einstein...who is to say he *knew* Einstein?

Truth is, when Pais decided to 'write a book' he
had to contact people who actually *knew* Einstein to
be able to write a little bio of Einstein.

Pias is just a fraud.

"The first biography to emphasize the physicist's scientific research
rather than his life..." -The New York Times

oh, i forgot to mention about the title of the book...

Einstein said referring to the title of the book: ..."It makes, of
course, no sense..."

"In all the years I knew Einstein, I never read any of his
papers..." -Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord

never read any of his papers????

are you people kidding me?

this is a joke!

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 17:34:48 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>In otherwords, it is NOT a book about Einstein....
>
>"The first biography to emphasize the physicist's scientific research rather than his life..." -The New York Times
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_is_the_Lord
>
>
>
>The Subject heading of this thread is... Books about Einstein.
>
>
>"about"...refering to Einstein, not his work, rather his life.
>
>
>Like for example, he didn't like the Germans because they killed one of his cousins, and he like to bang his cousins.
>
>
>
>
>The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>> >
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> > >
>> > > J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > There isn't not one
>> > > > > book ever been written
>> > > > > about Albert Einstein
>> > > > > that contains any truth.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If I'm wrong, name the book?
>> > > >
>> > > > I know it is wasted on you, but you could try:
>> > > > Abraham Pais, Subtle is the Lord.
>> > > > (beware, it is also a scientific biography,
>> > > > so much of it wil be too difficult for you)
>> > > >
>> > > > Note that Pais was appointed at Princeton in 1947,
>> > > > that he had an office next to Einstein,
>> > > > and that they met on an almost daily basis,
>> > > > until Einstein's death in 1955.
>> > > > They often had lunch together, and they went for walks in the park.
>> > > >
>> > > > What makes you think that Abraham Pais
>> > > > would have lied directly and completely
>> > > > about all he learned in his contacts with Einstein?
>> > > >
>> > > > Jan
>> > >
>> > > Only 20 percent of the book is a bio, the rest about the science.
>> > >
>> > > and the bio part contains untruths according to Amazon reviewers.
>> > >
>> > > Now i have to find that 20 percent and see wats in it.
>> >
>> > I'll begin with just the cover of the book...
>> >
>> > "Subtle is the Lord."
>> >
>> > Einstein didn't say that. Einstein said "God is subtle, ..."
>> >
>> > I could go on and on about *just* the cover of the book...
>> >
>> > but let me give you a quote what the author said in his book...
>> >
>> > "In all the years I knew
>> > Einstein, I never read any of his papers..." -Abraham Pais, Subtle is
>> > the Lord
>>
>> I mean, I understand...
>> somebody said to Pais...
>>
>> "Hey man, you knew Albert Einstein, why don't you write a book about
>> him???!!"
>>
>> "Yeah, I could use the fuckin money but, but,..."
>>
>> "But WHAT?"
>>
>> "[WHISPER] I never read any of his papers."
>>
>> "YOU MEAN ALL THAT TIME YOU KNEW HIM YOU NEVER READ ANY OF HIS FUCKIN
>> PAPERS???!"
>>
>> "Why would I need to read his fucking papers, I'm smarter than him!...he
>> was just a fucking retard! He never looked at me once in the eyes!!!"
>> "Every time I talked to him he would look the other way!!!"
>>
>> WHY?"
>>
>> "I DON'T KNOW,. HE MUST BE A FUCKING RETARD!!!!"
>>
>> "Well, go read something and write a book, stupid!"
>>
>> --
>> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
>> and challenge the unchallengeable.

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On 1/26/2024 5:49 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:

> Yes, very bad of Pais, isn't it?
> BTW, that's what the book is praised for.
>

Woman, even mentioning one human name in a physics book turns it into a
human history book, not physics.

You cro-magnons don't have it in you to separate the two.

You've turned every science book into crap with depicting your
stupidities and inabilities throughout their pages. We, the Modern
Humans, will one day wash all that stupidities out of the scientific books.

You won't see _one_ human name throughout, neither on concepts nor in
units when you read and learn them. We'll put those names where they
belong. In history books.

Cro-magnon is bad enough, imagine a cro-magnon who's also Bitch of the USA!

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