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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 06:51 UTC

On Wednesday 24 January 2024 at 05:49:02 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:

> The nonstandard clock in a GPS satellite runs at a slower rate than a
> clock on the geoid.

9 192 631 774 is slower rate than 9 192 631 770, poor halfbrain?
Of course, there is nothing exceptional or nonstandard there.
They're completely ordunary clocks, It's the delusional "proper"
clocks gedanken by your bunch of idiots which are nonstandard.

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 by: Tom Roberts - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 15:37 UTC

On 1/24/24 12:51 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Wednesday 24 January 2024 at 05:49:02 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:
>> The nonstandard clock in a GPS satellite runs at a slower rate
>> than a clock on the geoid.
>
> 9 192 631 774 is slower rate than 9 192 631 770, poor halfbrain?

Yes, of course. The Cs-133 oscillator inherently oscillates at
9,192,631,770Hz. So since the nonstandard clock in the GPS satellite
waits until 9,192,631,774 oscillations have passed between its 1-second
ticks, it does indeed tick more slowly than a standard clock.

[That number is approximate.]

> Of course, there is nothing exceptional or nonstandard there.

You really need to LEARN HOW TO READ. 9,192,631,770 oscillations between
1-second ticks is standard, 9,192,631,774 is not.

> They're completely ordunary clocks,

No, they are not. Look above and READ.

Tom Roberts

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 by: Serge Snaaijer Schoo - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:11 UTC

Tom Roberts wrote:

> On 1/23/24 10:17 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>> So the clocks are modified by means of an oscillator that makes them
>> run the same rate in space as on Earth BY DEFINITION.
>
> No! You need to LEARN HOW TO READ.
> The nonstandard clock in a GPS satellite runs at a slower rate than a
> clock on the geoid. This is done so SIGNALS from the satellite arrive on
> the geoid with the correct frequency. Tom Roberts

maybe you should. He says the same thing.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:48 UTC

On Wednesday 24 January 2024 at 16:38:02 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 1/24/24 12:51 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Wednesday 24 January 2024 at 05:49:02 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:
> >> The nonstandard clock in a GPS satellite runs at a slower rate
> >> than a clock on the geoid.
> >
> > 9 192 631 774 is slower rate than 9 192 631 770, poor halfbrain?
> Yes, of course. The Cs-133 oscillator inherently oscillates at
> 9,192,631,770Hz

Bullshit, anyone can check a GPS satellite, it's 9,192,631,774
Hz there. That's where the lies of idiots like you end.

> So since the nonstandard clock in the GPS satellite

Nothing nonstandard about it, the clocks of your
gedanken delusions are nonstandard instead. Apart
of being delusional, of course.

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 by: Bob Antwerpen Roggev - Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:59 UTC

Tom Roberts wrote:

> On 1/24/24 12:51 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> On Wednesday 24 January 2024 at 05:49:02 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:
>>> The nonstandard clock in a GPS satellite runs at a slower rate than a
>>> clock on the geoid.
>>
>> 9 192 631 774 is slower rate than 9 192 631 770, poor halfbrain?
>
> Yes, of course. The Cs-133 oscillator inherently oscillates at
> 9,192,631,770Hz. So since the nonstandard clock in the GPS satellite
> waits until 9,192,631,774 oscillations have passed between its 1-second
> ticks, it does indeed tick more slowly than a standard clock.

absolutely, that's why so many people and engineers in amrica confuses
𝙘𝙡𝙤𝙘𝙠_𝙨𝙞𝙜𝙣𝙖𝙡𝙨 with 𝙩𝙝𝙚_𝙬𝙖𝙩𝙘𝙝 or 𝙩𝙝𝙚_𝙘𝙡𝙤𝙘𝙠. Different things, but named the same.

those in europe, 𝙩𝙝𝙚_𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙡𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚_𝙬𝙚𝙨𝙩, are totally lost in the forest. The clock
is not 𝙖_𝙘𝙡𝙤𝙘𝙠.

𝙀𝙐_𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙩𝙚_𝙩𝙤_𝙜𝙞𝙫𝙚_𝙐𝙠𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙣𝙚_$666_𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙡𝙞𝙤𝙣_𝙤𝙛_𝙍𝙪𝙨𝙨𝙞𝙖’𝙨_𝙢𝙤𝙣𝙚𝙮_–_𝙢𝙚𝙙𝙞𝙖
Belgium plans to use interest earned on frozen Russian assets to send
military assistance to Kiev, Belga News Agency says
https://r%74.com/news/591214-eu-state-ukraine-russian-money/

THIS IS WHAT BELGIUM IS:

Belgium is a source, destination, and transit country for men, women, and
children subjected to trafficking in persons, specifically forced labor
and forced prostitution. "According to a 2009 ECPAT Report, the majority
of girls and children subjected to forced prostitution in Belgium
originate from Balkan and CIS countries, Eastern Europe, Asia (Thailand,
China) and West Africa (particularly Nigeria)

if 𝙩𝙜𝙖𝙮_𝙨𝙢𝙚𝙡𝙡𝙚𝙣𝙨𝙠𝙮 only takes 10% of these money, 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩'𝙨_$66_𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙡𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙨!! Fuck him.
That good an actor is not him. He is laughing his ass out, watching how
stupid the 𝙘𝙤𝙡𝙡𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙫𝙚_𝙬𝙚𝙨𝙩 is. Nobody ever made this money in the fake
ukurina .

and the europe, fucked up by capitalist america, cutting off their energy
lines from Russia.

This money is going to US companies to pay Ukraine debt. the US pushed
Belgum to do that. Russia has not Mutch to buy from the US anyway.

Belgium theoretically owns the SWIFT inter-bank settlement system but
suddenly found out that someone else owns THEM. They are a very small
country which produces very little. This will destroy one of their prime
assets. Really dumb move.

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