My dear Jean-Pierre,
I would like to point out to you that I am still waiting for your proof
that my relativistic concepts are not correct.
I told you a thousand times that relativistic physics was a correct
science, but poorly taught, and that you couldn't do anything about it.

You caused me a lot of pain by taking my considerations as a joke.

You still haven't understood that Doctor Hachel is currently the world's
best theoretician regarding relativistic kinematics.

I remind you my dear Jean-Pierre, the equation Vapp=v/(1+cosµ.v/c)
specific to the determination of an apparent speed (radial speed).

You still haven't answered me (and that's not good), on the question I
asked, what will be the apparent speed of approach and the apparent speed
of escape, of a mobile moving at v=0.8c?

Vapp'(leak)=
Vapp"(approach)=

It's not good to be afraid. Fear does not ward off danger.

While you're at it, give me your opinion on the Hachel transformations
proposed for rotating environments. You are perfectly familiar with the
Poincaré-Lorentz transformations for Galilean environments,
what do you think of Hachel's for rotating midfielders?

<http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?7AKcdELM0m1tStUDM4x-iDyv6Ws@jntp/Data.Media:1>

Thank you, Jean-Pierre.. You are a darling.

R.H.

W dniu 10.03.2024 o 04:38, Richard Hachel pisze:
> My dear Jean-Pierre,
> I would like to point out to you that I am still waiting for your proof
> that my relativistic concepts are not correct.

And I'm still waiting for your proof
that you're not a camel. But in the meantime
in the real world, forbidden by idiots like
you "improper" clocks keep measuring "improper"
t'=t in "improper" seconds.

On 2024-03-10 03:38:23 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

> My dear Jean-Pierre,
> I would like to point out to you that I am still waiting for your proof
> that my relativistic concepts are not correct.
> I told you a thousand times that relativistic physics was a correct
> science, but poorly taught, and that you couldn't do anything about it.
>
> You caused me a lot of pain by taking my considerations as a joke.
>
> You still haven't understood that Doctor Hachel is currently the
> world's best theoretician regarding relativistic kinematics.

"Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a secret.

--
Athel cb

Le 10/03/2024 à 07:24, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> And I'm still waiting for your proof
> that you're not a camel. But in the meantime
> in the real world, forbidden by idiots like
> you "improper" clocks keep measuring "improper"
> t'=t in "improper" seconds.

No, clocks do not measure t'=t.

Just as observers do not place the position of the stars in the same
absolute location (aberration of the position of the stars at the zenith).

Just as the distances traveled by particles with a short half-life clearly
show the existence of a factor sqrt(1-v²/c²) in nature.

You cannot deny this fact, and denying it is very counterproductive in the
search for truth.

R.H.

W dniu 10.03.2024 o 17:17, Richard Hachel pisze:
> Le 10/03/2024 à 07:24, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>> And I'm still waiting for your proof
>> that you're not a camel. But in the meantime
>> in the real world, forbidden by idiots like
>> you "improper" clocks keep measuring "improper"
>> t'=t in "improper" seconds.
>
> No, clocks do not measure t'=t.

Yes, they do. But though denying this fact is
very counterproductive in the search for truth
you're still free to deny it.

>
> Just as observers do not place the position of the stars in the same
> absolute location (aberration of the position of the stars at the zenith).
>
> Just as the distances traveled by particles with a short half-life
> clearly show the existence of a factor sqrt(1-v²/c²) in nature.

Unfortunately, clocks are artificial, you
know.

Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>
> On 2024-03-10 03:38:23 +0000, Richard Hachel said:
>
> > My dear Jean-Pierre,
> > I would like to point out to you that I am still waiting for your proof
> > that my relativistic concepts are not correct.
> > I told you a thousand times that relativistic physics was a correct
> > science, but poorly taught, and that you couldn't do anything about it.
> >
> > You caused me a lot of pain by taking my considerations as a joke.
> >
> > You still haven't understood that Doctor Hachel is currently the
> > world's best theoretician regarding relativistic kinematics.
>
> "Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a secret.
>
> --
> Athel cb

They give out "doctorates" at community colleges????

That's where Jill Biden got hers!

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> W dniu 10.03.2024 o 04:38, Richard Hachel pisze:
> > My dear Jean-Pierre,
> > I would like to point out to you that I am still waiting for your proof
> > that my relativistic concepts are not correct.
>
> And I'm still waiting for your proof
> that you're not a camel. But in the meantime
> in the real world, forbidden by idiots like
> you "improper" clocks keep measuring "improper"
> t'=t in "improper" seconds.

don't forget to turn your improper clock forward one hour...

add a few seconds for improper time dilation.

(if your clock is above your head it is already going to fast...)

if you have to look up to see what time it is...it is the wrong time,

i mean, improper time.

Who is Jean-Pierre? Is dat a French Historian or something? i don't get
it.

--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.

On 3/10/2024 1:49 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>
>> On 2024-03-10 03:38:23 +0000, Richard Hachel said:
>>
>>> My dear Jean-Pierre,
>>> I would like to point out to you that I am still waiting for your proof
>>> that my relativistic concepts are not correct.
>>> I told you a thousand times that relativistic physics was a correct
>>> science, but poorly taught, and that you couldn't do anything about it.
>>>
>>> You caused me a lot of pain by taking my considerations as a joke.
>>>
>>> You still haven't understood that Doctor Hachel is currently the
>>> world's best theoretician regarding relativistic kinematics.
>>
>> "Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a secret.
>>
>> --
>> Athel cb
>
>
> They give out "doctorates" at community colleges????
>
> That's where Jill Biden got hers!
>

I don't think she's studied at community college either. You can pay
$5000 and get your doctorate from somewhere.

Who would marry a dork like Biden?

--
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www.avast.com

Richard Hachel wrote:

> Just as the distances traveled by particles with a short half-life
> clearly show the existence of a factor sqrt(1-v²/c²) in nature.
> You cannot deny this fact, and denying it is very counterproductive in
> the search for truth.

not sure. Admitting is counterproductive, not denying. From denying to
admitting, one square kilometre to walk.

remember this?
𝗞𝗵𝗮𝗸𝗵𝗼𝗹𝗲_𝘀𝗰𝘂𝗺_𝗷𝘂𝗺𝗽𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝘂𝗽_𝗮𝗻𝗱_𝗱𝗼𝘄𝗻_𝗶𝗻_𝗔𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗮
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/h4k8Jcohl1X7

now read this, lol, quite true and funny indeed.

𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻_𝗺𝗮𝗻_𝗵𝗮𝘀_𝗯𝗿𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘁_𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗮_𝗵𝗼𝘄_𝘁𝗼_𝘀𝗼𝗹𝘃𝗲_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗽𝗼𝗽𝘂𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻_𝗮𝗻𝗱
𝗺𝗼𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘇𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻_𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗹𝗲𝗺𝘀_𝗮𝘁_𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/xWvM3BKL38xP

then I was thinking Russia was the most advanced in the world. Capitalist
amrica and 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲_𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁 are fucked up in their brain, totally. You won't
expect any good from amrica, are you?

𝗜𝘀_𝗖𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗮_𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗡𝗲𝘄_𝗔𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻_𝗗𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗺:_𝗦𝗛𝗢𝗖𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚_𝗔𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻_𝗘𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗼𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘁_𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗥𝗶𝘀𝗲_𝗢𝗳_𝗖𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗮
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/lADccnOzk4Ne

𝗧𝗿𝘂𝗺𝗽...𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗳𝗮𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿_𝗼𝗳_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗖𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗱19_𝘃𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗲._𝗕𝘂𝘁_𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲_𝗶𝘀_𝗺𝘂𝗰𝗵_𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲.
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/pUJErw9momJJ

𝗣𝗮𝗿𝘁_𝗼𝗳_𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲_𝗻𝗼𝘁_𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗲𝗱_𝗯𝘆_𝗠𝗦𝗡
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/MKo0FJjq38rb

𝗙𝗮𝗸𝗲_𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲_𝗳𝗼𝗼𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗲_,_𝗱𝗲𝗮𝗱_𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗼𝗻_𝘂𝗻𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗳𝗼𝗿𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲_𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵_𝗵𝗶𝘀_𝗯𝗼𝗱𝘆_𝗯𝗮𝗴
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/stIQ2dWAYtSK

𝗪𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗱_𝗣𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗼𝗻_𝗠𝗲𝗿𝗰_𝗖𝗿𝗮𝘄𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗼𝗻_𝗔𝗹𝗹_4_𝗝𝗲𝘀𝘂𝘀..._𝗖𝗼𝗰𝗸
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/f6Y70c2txVyY

𝗝𝗲𝘄_𝗥𝗮𝗯𝗯𝗶:_𝗞𝗶𝗹𝗹_𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆_𝘄𝗼𝗺𝗮𝗻,_𝗺𝗮𝗻_𝗮𝗻𝗱_𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗱_𝗶𝗻_𝗴𝗮𝘇𝗮
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/8bUfs4O0tJrE

> "Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a secret.
>
>
> --
> Athel cb

Hasn't it been mentioned on the old board that he is a medical doctor?

Gary

On 3/11/2024 10:01 AM, gharnagel wrote:
>> "Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a secret.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Athel cb
>
> Hasn't it been mentioned on the old board that he is a medical doctor?

Under a different name. (Lengrand)

And what "old board"?

Volney wrote:
>
> On 3/11/2024 10:01 AM, gharnagel wrote:
> >
> > Athel wrote:
> > >
> > > "Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a secret.
> >
> > Hasn't it been mentioned on the old board that he is a medical doctor?
>
> Under a different name. (Lengrand)

Nope.

> And what "old board"?

The dearly departed google groups sci.physics.relativity

Seems that it was mentioned that they were glad that he wasn't treating them.

On 03/11/2024 08:30 AM, gharnagel wrote:
> Volney wrote:
>>
>> On 3/11/2024 10:01 AM, gharnagel wrote:
>> >
>> > Athel wrote:
>> > >
>> > > "Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a
>> secret.
>> >
>> > Hasn't it been mentioned on the old board that he is a medical doctor?
>>
>> Under a different name. (Lengrand)
>
> Nope.
>
>> And what "old board"?
>
> The dearly departed google groups sci.physics.relativity
>
> Seems that it was mentioned that they were glad that he wasn't treating
> them.

Yeah you know there was a real bad cold going around, ....

That said, when you consider the Aspect-type experiments
which invoke the notion of the photino, and otherwise
"the flux complement of supersymmetry in full-velocity flux,
as a theoretical particle because particle physics",
about Alain Aspect and J.S. Bell, whether or not it's an
otherwise nonsensical person bring these to your attention,
they still are as so and it would be foolish to let oneself
be deluded by the straw-man fallacy, which is usually enough
how trolls operate, being manufactured trolls to make straw-man
about what otherwise, presented correctly, would be anti-theses.

I.e., knowledge is added to existence knowledge by something
like a Hegelian dialectic, thesis, anti-thesis, syn-thesis.

Then when two theses, like "continuous space-time manifold
and grainy particle model, GR and QM", come together, then
it also usually involves apologia, "here's what we might've
been thinking", when the greater gestalt arrives at why they're
true together, when before they were false apart.

If that's a sort of straw-man, "troll with a kernel of decency",
I suppose there's the other kind, knocks you down then says
"brush your teeth, ...", as if in your interest.

Here it's "floss the teeth, and stay away from processed foods
and sugary drank". You can take it or leave it, and don't need
some straw-man troll to tell you it is or isn't so, and don't
need some straw-man troll to tell you it is or isn't so.

On 2024-03-11 14:01:38 +0000, gharnagel said:

>>
>> "Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a secret.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Athel cb
>
> Hasn't it been mentioned on the old board that he is a medical doctor?

Yes, but to be an expert on physics he needs a degree in a relevant
subject. I don't count medicine.

--
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

On 2024-03-11 15:30:07 +0000, gharnagel said:

> Volney wrote:
>>
>> On 3/11/2024 10:01 AM, gharnagel wrote:
>>>
>>> Athel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a secret.
>>>
>>> Hasn't it been mentioned on the old board that he is a medical doctor?
>>
>> Under a different name. (Lengrand)
>
> Nope.
>
>> And what "old board"?
>
> The dearly departed google groups sci.physics.relativity

sci.physics.relativity didn't depend in any way on Google. Google can
do what they like, but they'll just get rid of some GoogleGroping
idiots (plus a few that we'll be sorry to miss), without any effect on
users who've used a proper newsreaders all along.
>
> Seems that it was mentioned that they were glad that he wasn't treating them.

--
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

Get lost micro penis.

Galan Ballalatak Koliha schrieb:
> ... the pope fucked my ass ...

On 3/11/2024 11:30 AM, gharnagel wrote:
> Volney wrote:
>>
>> On 3/11/2024 10:01 AM, gharnagel wrote:
>> >
>> > Athel wrote:
>> > >
>> > > "Doctor" Hachel, who still keeps the source of his "doctorate" a
>> secret.
>> >
>> > Hasn't it been mentioned on the old board that he is a medical doctor?
>>
>> Under a different name. (Lengrand)
>
> Nope.

Someone (I forget who) claims that "Dr. Hachel" is really a medical
doctor Dr. Lengrand. I may have the spelling wrong, and I have no way to
verify or refute this claim.
>
>> And what "old board"?
>
> The dearly departed google groups sci.physics.relativity

That was only a gateway into Usenet groups like the one you are reading
now, not some "old board". The gateway is gone, as are its users who
don't know how or don't care about continuing to use Usenet.
>
> Seems that it was mentioned that they were glad that he wasn't treating
> them.

The person who claimed Hachel is Lengrand has the opinion that Dr.
Lengrand is a quack.

> Volney wrote:
>
> Someone (I forget who) claims that "Dr. Hachel" is really a medical
> doctor Dr. Lengrand. I may have the spelling wrong, and I have no way to
> verify or refute this claim.
>
> > > And what "old board"?
> > >
> > > > The dearly departed google groups sci.physics.relativity
>
> That was only a gateway into Usenet groups like the one you are reading
> now, not some "old board". The gateway is gone, as are its users who
> don't know how or don't care about continuing to use Usenet.

It looked that way to you, but I actually joined google groups
sci.physics.relativity - I'm actually one of those users you specify. And
I'm actually on novabbs.com/tech etc.

> > Seems that it was mentioned that they were glad that he wasn't treating
> >them.
>
> The person who claimed Hachel is Lengrand has the opinion that Dr.
> Lengrand is a quack.

I wouldn't know, but from the way "Dr. Hachel" behaves, it seems that he
would be a very opinionated M.D. My doctors listen very carefully when I
voice my concerns.

Mild Shock wrote:

> Get lost micro penis.
> Galan Ballalatak Koliha schrieb:
>> ... the pope fucked my ass ...

you like penis lika gay. Read this, 𝘀𝗺𝗲𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗸𝘆, and comply:

𝗥𝘂𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗮_𝘀𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗼𝗻𝘀_𝗦𝘄𝗶𝘀𝘀_𝗲𝗻𝘃𝗼𝘆_𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿_𝗨𝗸𝗿𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗲_𝗳𝘂𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴_𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗻𝘀
Moscow has strongly protested Bern’s decision to develop a legal basis for
using its frozen funds to aid Kiev
https://r%74.com/news/594145-russia-summons-swiss-ambassador-ukraine/

Swiss spent decades protecting Nazi thefts and looting, and now they are
enabling theft on behalf of Nazis again. Some things never change. A total
disgrace. "Neutral" except when it comes to Hitlerites.

People should read the history of those who have occupied Switzerland -
for many hundreds of years.

I would like to think billions of dollars of middle eastern and Asian
money sitting in Swiss banks will be moved, lol

The Swiss engorged themselves on the misery of WW2, the series of regime
change exercises carried out by their Anglo American and NATO paymasters
inter alia the theft of Libyan gold, Ukrainian gold, South African gold
and so on. Russia will not lose a single friend by using 1500 Kg FAB's on
Berne, Zurich and the WEF resort.

Swiss banks are filling their coffers with ukro-nazi funds from the
criminal thugs in the Zelenski regime, as they attempt to steal funds from
Russian companies and businessmen. Absolutely immoral and shameful
methods. The founders would be bursting with anger.

ambassador should be kicked out immediately. no point in speaking with the
enemy.

....the jews have a very long reach I must say .

gharnagel wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>>
>> That was only a gateway into Usenet groups like the one you are reading
>> now, not some "old board". The gateway is gone, as are its users who
>> don't know how or don't care about continuing to use Usenet.
>
> It looked that way to you, but I actually joined google groups
> sci.physics.relativity - I'm actually one of those users you specify.
> And I'm actually on novabbs.com/tech etc.

read Parenti, to undrestand.

𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗿𝗱_𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗹𝗱_𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀_𝗮𝗿𝗲_𝗻𝗼𝘁_𝗽𝗼𝗼𝗿_-_𝗼𝗻𝗹𝘆_𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿_𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗼𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗱
https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/video/XIjI3RxuOPow

(full paper, take it from youtube)
𝗠𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗲𝗹_𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶_1986.𝗺𝗽4

this also, from youtube
𝗠𝗶𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗲𝗹_𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶_-_𝗧𝗵𝗲_𝗨.𝗦._𝗡𝗔𝗧𝗢_𝗪𝗮𝗿_𝗢𝗻_𝗬𝘂𝗴𝗼𝘀𝗹𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗮_𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼.𝗺𝗺4

great papers. Just for you, to undrestand.

Volney wrote:

> On 3/11/2024 11:30 AM, gharnagel wrote:
>> Nope.
>
> Someone (I forget who) claims that "Dr. Hachel" is really a medical
> doctor Dr. Lengrand. I may have the spelling wrong, and I have no way to
> verify or refute this claim.

explosive words, finally from the putina. Worth reading. But it's not
over, until you bring all these 𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆𝘀 satanists motherfuckers, to
Siberia, the rest of their stinking life, to work hard and dirty for the
food they eat. Which is mercy.

‘𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗿_𝘃𝗮𝗺𝗽𝗶𝗿𝗲_𝗯𝗮𝗹𝗹_𝗶𝘀_𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿’_–_𝗣𝘂𝘁𝗶𝗻_𝘁𝗼_𝗪𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻_𝗲𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗲𝘀
Exploitation of other nations by the so-called “golden billion” is coming
to an end, the Russian president has stated
https://r%74.com/russia/594197-putin-vampire-ball-west/

The president stated that over the past few centuries, the so-called
“golden billion” has grown accustomed to being able to “fill their bellies
with human flesh 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝗽𝗼𝗰𝗸𝗲𝘁𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗲𝘆” as they have been “parasitizing”
other peoples in Africa, Asia, and Latin America.

”But they must understand that the vampire ball is ending,” Putin said.

He added that the citizens of the aforementioned regions, which have been
continuously exploited by the West over the past 500 years, have started
to associate Russia’s struggle for sovereignty with “their own aspirations
for sovereignty and independent development.”

At the same time, Putin noted that Western elites have a very strong
desire to “freeze the current situation” and preserve the “unjust state of
affairs in international affairs.”

Previously, in his keynote address to Russia’s Federal Assembly last
month, Putin stated that the West, with its “colonial habits” of “igniting
national conflicts all over the world,” intends to do everything it can to
stall Russia’s development and turn it, as it did Ukraine, into a dying
failed state.

”In place of Russia, they want a dependent, withering, dying space, where
they can do whatever they want,” he said.

The president followed up on those comments in Wednesday’s interview,
stating that many Western elites, who have been “blinded by their
Russophobia” were “thrilled” when they were able to push Russia to the
point where it had to launch its military offensive in Ukraine in order to
end 𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝘄𝗮𝗿_𝘂𝗻𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗵𝗲𝗱_𝗯𝘆_𝘁𝗵𝗲_𝗪𝗲𝘀𝘁_𝗶𝗻_2014.

”They 𝘄𝗲𝗿𝗲_𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻_𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆, I think, because they believed that now they would
finish us off using a barrage of sanctions, having practically declared a
sanctions war against us, and with the help of Western weapons in the
hands of Ukrainian 𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁𝘀,” said Putin, suggesting that this mindset was
behind Western calls to “inflict a strategic defeat on Russia on the
battlefield.”

On 3/12/2024 12:10 AM, gharnagel wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>>
>> Someone (I forget who) claims that "Dr. Hachel" is really a medical
>> doctor Dr. Lengrand. I may have the spelling wrong, and I have no way
>> to verify or refute this claim.
>>
>> > > And what "old board"?
>> > >
>> > > > The dearly departed google groups sci.physics.relativity
>>
>> That was only a gateway into Usenet groups like the one you are reading
>> now, not some "old board". The gateway is gone, as are its users who
>> don't know how or don't care about continuing to use Usenet.
>
> It looked that way to you, but I actually joined google groups
> sci.physics.relativity - I'm actually one of those users you specify.  And
> I'm actually on novabbs.com/tech etc.

As I said it was just a gateway to Usenet sci.physics.relativity. You
saw the same things on Google as you do on a regular Usenet provider.
>
>> > Seems that it was mentioned that they were glad that he wasn't
>> treating >them.
>>
>> The person who claimed Hachel is Lengrand has the opinion that Dr.
>> Lengrand is a quack.
>
> I wouldn't know, but from the way "Dr. Hachel" behaves, it seems that he
> would be a very opinionated M.D.  My doctors listen very carefully when I
> voice my concerns.

An overly opinionated MD could be a very bad thing, not listening to
patients. Perhaps called a quack.

Volney wrote:
>
> On 3/12/2024 12:10 AM, gharnagel wrote:
> >
> > Volney wrote:
> > >
> > > Someone (I forget who) claims that "Dr. Hachel" is really a medical
> > > doctor Dr. Lengrand. I may have the spelling wrong, and I have no way
> > > to verify or refute this claim.
> > >
> > > And what "old board"?
> > >
> > > > The dearly departed google groups sci.physics.relativity
> > >
> > > That was only a gateway into Usenet groups like the one you are reading
> > > now, not some "old board". The gateway is gone, as are its users who
> > > don't know how or don't care about continuing to use Usenet.
> >
> > It looked that way to you, but I actually joined google groups
> > sci.physics.relativity - I'm actually one of those users you specify. And
> > I'm actually on novabbs.com/tech etc.
>
> As I said it was just a gateway to Usenet sci.physics.relativity. You
> saw the same things on Google as you do on a regular Usenet provider.

So, I'm dealing with novabbs, not usenet.

The old google board had many groups. I followed several and started three.

> > > Seems that it was mentioned that they were glad that he wasn't
> > > treating them.
> >
> > > The person who claimed Hachel is Lengrand has the opinion that Dr.
> > > Lengrand is a quack.
> >
> > I wouldn't know, but from the way "Dr. Hachel" behaves, it seems that he
> > would be a very opinionated M.D. My doctors listen very carefully when I
> > voice my concerns.
>
> An overly opinionated MD could be a very bad thing, not listening to
> patients. Perhaps called a quack.

Perhaps, perhaps not.

He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is ignorant ... teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep ... wake him.
He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool ... shun him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise ... follow him.
-- Persian Proverb

Volney wrote:

> On 3/12/2024 12:10 AM, gharnagel wrote:
>> I wouldn't know, but from the way "Dr. Hachel" behaves, it seems that
>> he would be a very opinionated M.D.  My doctors listen very carefully
>> when I voice my concerns.
>
> An overly opinionated MD could be a very bad thing, not listening to
> patients. Perhaps called a quack.

inconclusive. The entire «western» *_˝health˝_* sector is a rockafella
petrochemical based fraud enterprises.

and don't you dare putting 卐 near Russians, knowing millions of soldiers
were killed by the ✡_𝗸𝗵𝗮𝘇𝗮𝗿_𝗴𝗼𝘆_✡ german 卐🔯_nazis_🔯卐, 2nd WW.

𝗜𝘀𝗿𝗮𝗲𝗹_𝘄𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘀_𝘁𝗼_𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗼𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗲_𝗣𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀_𝘁𝗼_‘𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗻_𝗶𝘀𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘀’
The military has claimed it will move civilians to safer areas in Gaza
before launching its Rafah offensive
https://r%74.com/news/594240-israel-gaza-humanitarian-islands/

Israel is forgetting their own history it seems. Same was sad in November
1940 when the Nazis established the Warsaw Ghetto for the 'safety' of the
Jewish citizen of Poland. It was also kind of 'humanitarian island', at
least according to the German authorities of the new Government of
Poland...

On 3/13/2024 2:32 PM, gharnagel wrote:
> Volney wrote:
>>
>> On 3/12/2024 12:10 AM, gharnagel wrote:
>> >
>> > Volney wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Someone (I forget who) claims that "Dr. Hachel" is really a
>> medical > > doctor Dr. Lengrand. I may have the spelling wrong, and I
>> have no way > > to verify or refute this claim.
>> > >
>> > > And what "old board"?
>> > >
>> > > > The dearly departed google groups sci.physics.relativity
>> > >
>> > > That was only a gateway into Usenet groups like the one you are
>> reading
>> > > now, not some "old board". The gateway is gone, as are its users who
>> > > don't know how or don't care about continuing to use Usenet.
>> >
>> > It looked that way to you, but I actually joined google groups
>> > sci.physics.relativity - I'm actually one of those users you
>> specify.  And
>> > I'm actually on novabbs.com/tech etc.
>>
>> As I said it was just a gateway to Usenet sci.physics.relativity. You
>> saw the same things on Google as you do on a regular Usenet provider.
>
> So, I'm dealing with novabbs, not usenet.

Novabbs is just another Usenet provider, like eternal-september and the
others.
>
> The old google board had many groups.  I followed several and started
> three.

AFAIK, Google still has all its non-Usenet groups, so the ones you
created should be still there. They just cut off the gateway to the
Usenet groups.
>
>> > > Seems that it was mentioned that they were glad that he wasn't > >
>> treating them.
>> >
>> > > The person who claimed Hachel is Lengrand has the opinion that Dr.
>> > > Lengrand is a quack.
>> >
>> > I wouldn't know, but from the way "Dr. Hachel" behaves, it seems
>> that he
>> > would be a very opinionated M.D.  My doctors listen very carefully
>> when I
>> > voice my concerns.
>>
>> An overly opinionated MD could be a very bad thing, not listening to
>> patients. Perhaps called a quack.
>
> Perhaps, perhaps not.
>
> He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is ignorant ... teach
> him. He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep ... wake him.
> He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool ... shun
> him. He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise ... follow him.
> -- Persian Proverb

Which is wise to keep in mind when reading these groups. Which category
does the overly opinionated MD belong?