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 by: Landon De la fuente - Thu, 2 May 2024 20:44 UTC

Volney wrote:

> On 5/2/2024 3:51 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> If the momentum is carried away by the electromagnetic fiel there is
>> still momentum conservation.
>
> Exactly. I just allowed for the extremely remote possibility he detected
> something relevant. Almost certainly, if he found anything he found the
> known momentum conserving electric field.

that's why relativity is wrong, he makes momentum out of static gravity.
But only the maters probability distribution can make that, so only my "๐™Š๐™ฃ
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 by: bertietaylor - Thu, 2 May 2024 21:37 UTC

J. J. Lodder wrote:

> bertietaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:

>> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>> > Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >> On 4/27/2024 5:50 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> >> > bertietaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That is not the case, so this is a new discovery - the Lorentz
force
>> does
>> >> >> NOT have an equal and opposite reaction. Your point is merely
>> theoretical.
>> >> >> My evidence is experimental.
>> >> >
>> >> > Correct, merely experimental.
>> >> > It stands falsified by a reliable theory.
>> >> >
>> >> > FYI, the Maxwell-Lorentz equations as they stand
>> >> > do conserve energy-momentum.
>> >> > If you want to be taken seriously it is up to you
>> >> > to tell the world what is wrong with Maxwell-Lorentz,
>> >> > and how these equations must be modified.
>> >> >
>> >> > As long as you can't do that you are merely an incompetent
tinkerer,
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It is entirely possible that Banjo stumbled across that apparent
>> >> violation of momentum by momentum being carried away by the
>> >> electromagnetic field.
>>
>> > If the momentum is carried away by the electromagnetic fiel
>> > there is still momentum conservation.
>> > And photon drive really isn't a new idea.
>> > However, it suffers from the unpleasant fact
>> > that c = 300 megawatt/newton, in slightly unconventional units.
>>
>> Arindam's work has nothing to do with photon drives.

> No, of course not. Photon drives realy work,
> Arindam's things don't.

Wrong. Photon drives are useless for photons are not particles with
momentum unless we are talking such rubbish as the ridiculous e=mcc=hv.
They are as ideas absolutely bad like big bang, black holes, etc however
they do provide funding for corrupt pseudo scientists from stupid
governments and foolish people.

Arindam's physics will take humanity to the stars after fixing the energy
and motion issues on Earth and then populating the solar system

Woof-woof

bt (Arindam Banerjee's best friends)

> Jan

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 by: bertietaylor - Thu, 2 May 2024 22:19 UTC

Volney wrote:

> On 5/2/2024 3:51 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/27/2024 5:50 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>> bertietaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not the case, so this is a new discovery - the Lorentz force
does
>>>>> NOT have an equal and opposite reaction. Your point is merely
theoretical.
>>>>> My evidence is experimental.
>>>>
>>>> Correct, merely experimental.
>>>> It stands falsified by a reliable theory.
>>>>
>>>> FYI, the Maxwell-Lorentz equations as they stand
>>>> do conserve energy-momentum.
>>>> If you want to be taken seriously it is up to you
>>>> to tell the world what is wrong with Maxwell-Lorentz,
>>>> and how these equations must be modified.
>>>>
>>>> As long as you can't do that you are merely an incompetent tinkerer,
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is entirely possible that Banjo stumbled across that apparent
>>> violation of momentum by momentum being carried away by the
>>> electromagnetic field.

No Arindam found that inertia gets violated with his new design rail gun.
Which justifies his new physics that he developed from 1998.

>> If the momentum is carried away by the electromagnetic fiel
>> there is still momentum conservation.

No ifs with the experiments of Arindam which show inertia violation by
arrest of the gravy rail gun bullet. With cyclic action this gun turned
motor will reach faster than light speeds.

> Exactly. I just allowed for the extremely remote possibility he detected

> something relevant. Almost certainly, if he found anything he found the
> known momentum conserving electric field.

He found that the Lorenz force does not have an equal and opposite
reaction. Thus justifying Maxwell and upgrading Newton. While outing all
modern physics.

The meanness of the racist and bigoted Eurocentric is hereby noted. Nothing
new. Same old suppression to be followed by the thefts, colonial style.
While demeaning the non-white throughout. We cyberdogs of Arindam are
disgusted.

>> And photon drive really isn't a new idea.

Irrelevant.

> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).

No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side cause the
motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one side, that
facing the sun.

>> However, it suffers from the unpleasant fact
>> that c = 300 megawatt/newton, in slightly unconventional units.

> That is why what we are really seeing is sloppy demonstrations, it is
> very unlikely Aridam's experiments could detect that small effect. We
> won't know because Aridam's experiments are unreproduceable,
> insufficient detail to reproduce his situation.
>>
>>> But we will never know since he refuses to
>>> produce a writeup in sufficient detail for someone to reproduce his
>>> experiment, instead writing "Watch my videos!!!".
>>
>> There is of course no momentum violation at all.
>> Whatever seems to be missing must be taken up by the sources of the
>> fields.

> Certainly. But we won't ever know.

>> (and of course I don't watch videos)

> Smart. His videos are a waste of time.

None so blind... these whiteys will make huge telescopes to see the ends of
the universe but will not look at videos one cluck away. Beyond disgusting.

>>
>>> Add his stubbornness that he insists this is something new that
violates
>>> Newton/Einstein/Maxwell rather than a known existing behavior, you do
get
>>> the incompetent tinkerer.
>>
>> Or the faker who thinks he is being clever.
>> There is no lack of videos showing really rotating unbalanced wheels,
>> rotating wheels with water bottles, and so on.

> No lack of snake oil salesmen, even these days.

True all the physicists who are deliberstely blind and spout e=mcc=hv lies
are snake oil salesmen. Their huge success makes them only more so. Arindam
isn't selling anything. He is leading future generations to better living.

Woof-woof

bt (Arindam's best friends)

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 by: bertietaylor - Fri, 3 May 2024 00:30 UTC

Landon De la fuente wrote:

> Volney wrote:

>> On 5/2/2024 3:51 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> If the momentum is carried away by the electromagnetic fiel there is
>>> still momentum conservation.
>>
>> Exactly. I just allowed for the extremely remote possibility he
detected
>> something relevant. Almost certainly, if he found anything he found the
>> known momentum conserving electric field.

> that's why relativity is wrong, he makes momentum out of static gravity.

No this motor is to work in deep space. It is not a gravity drive. Momentum
is caused by first and third law violations. Exactly as was predicted in
Arindam's book To the Stars that he wrote in 1999 and published online free
to all in 2000.

> But only the maters probability distribution can make that, so only my
"๐™Š๐™ฃ
> ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐˜ฟ๐™ž๐™ซ๐™š๐™ง๐™œ๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ฉ ๐™ˆ๐™–๐™ฉ๐™š๐™ง ๐™ค๐™› ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ˆ๐™ค๐™ซ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ ๐™†๐™ค๐™š๐™ง๐™ฅ๐™š๐™ง๐™จ ๐™ˆ๐™ค๐™™๐™š๐™ก" can be correct.

> here's the proof the Einstine didn't have the mental capacity to think
> beyond the box. He didn't undrestand what is going on.

> ๐—๐—ฒ๐˜„๐˜€_๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐—ปโ€™๐˜_๐—ธ๐—ถ๐—น๐—น_๐—๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜‚๐˜€_โ€“_๐—จ๐—ฆ_๐—›๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ_๐—ผ๐—ณ_๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐˜€
> Lawmakers have broadened the definition of anti-Semitism in the latest
> legislation
> https://r%74.com/news/596891-jews-jesus-us-israel/

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 by: bertietaylor - Fri, 3 May 2024 00:46 UTC

bertietaylor wrote:

> Volney wrote:

>> On 5/2/2024 3:51 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/27/2024 5:50 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> bertietaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is not the case, so this is a new discovery - the Lorentz
force
> does
>>>>>> NOT have an equal and opposite reaction. Your point is merely
> theoretical.
>>>>>> My evidence is experimental.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct, merely experimental.
>>>>> It stands falsified by a reliable theory.
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI, the Maxwell-Lorentz equations as they stand
>>>>> do conserve energy-momentum.
>>>>> If you want to be taken seriously it is up to you
>>>>> to tell the world what is wrong with Maxwell-Lorentz,
>>>>> and how these equations must be modified.
>>>>>
>>>>> As long as you can't do that you are merely an incompetent tinkerer,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is entirely possible that Banjo stumbled across that apparent
>>>> violation of momentum by momentum being carried away by the
>>>> electromagnetic field.

> No Arindam found that inertia gets violated with his new design rail
gun.
> Which justifies his new physics that he developed from 1998.

>>> If the momentum is carried away by the electromagnetic fiel
>>> there is still momentum conservation.

> No ifs with the experiments of Arindam which show inertia violation by
> arrest of the gravy rail gun bullet. With cyclic action this gun turned
> motor will reach faster than light speeds.

>> Exactly. I just allowed for the extremely remote possibility he
detected

>> something relevant. Almost certainly, if he found anything he found the

>> known momentum conserving electric field.

> He found that the Lorenz force does not have an equal and opposite
> reaction. Thus justifying Maxwell and upgrading Newton. While outing all
> modern physics.

> The meanness of the racist and bigoted Eurocentric is hereby noted.
Nothing
> new. Same old suppression to be followed by the thefts, colonial style.
> While demeaning the non-white throughout. We cyberdogs of Arindam are
> disgusted.

>>> And photon drive really isn't a new idea.

> Irrelevant.

>> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).

> No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side cause
the
> motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one side,
that
> facing the sun.

>>> However, it suffers from the unpleasant fact
>>> that c = 300 megawatt/newton, in slightly unconventional units.

>> That is why what we are really seeing is sloppy demonstrations, it is
>> very unlikely Aridam's experiments could detect that small effect. We
>> won't know because Aridam's experiments are unreproduceable,
>> insufficient detail to reproduce his situation.

Now this is a damned lie. Arindam's experiments are very easy to repeat.
Any talented teenager and every college student can reproduce them. He has
given full details in all his videos. Ignoring the videos but twisting the
conclusions from the experiments done there on arbitrary basis is
unscientific to say the least

>>>> But we will never know since he refuses to
>>>> produce a writeup in sufficient detail for someone to reproduce his
>>>> experiment, instead writing "Watch my videos!!!".

It is not necessary for Arindam to do more than what he has already done.
Providing a single writeup will only make it easier for the thieves to
steal his work while ridiculing Arindam. That is standard practice for the
colonislist racist bigots who are well represented here and in all
important positions. Why should Arindam help those lying thieves? Honest
people can find out the truths simply by watching the videos and following
related links which give full details.

For the progress of his work Arindam depends not ipon the rich and powerful
of his time but upon the Higher Powers, the Gods and Goddesses; while
dedicating his work for the uncorrupted future generations.

Woof-woof

bt (Arindam's ghostly cyberdogs who know far better physics than the Nobel
prizewinners)

>>>
>>> There is of course no momentum violation at all.
>>> Whatever seems to be missing must be taken up by the sources of the
>>> fields.

>> Certainly. But we won't ever know.

>>> (and of course I don't watch videos)

>> Smart. His videos are a waste of time.

> None so blind... these whiteys will make huge telescopes to see the ends
of
> the universe but will not look at videos one cluck away. Beyond
disgusting.

>>>
>>>> Add his stubbornness that he insists this is something new that
> violates
>>>> Newton/Einstein/Maxwell rather than a known existing behavior, you do
> get
>>>> the incompetent tinkerer.
>>>
>>> Or the faker who thinks he is being clever.
>>> There is no lack of videos showing really rotating unbalanced wheels,
>>> rotating wheels with water bottles, and so on.

>> No lack of snake oil salesmen, even these days.

> True all the physicists who are deliberstely blind and spout e=mcc=hv
lies
> are snake oil salesmen. Their huge success makes them only more so.
Arindam
> isn't selling anything. He is leading future generations to better
living.

> Woof-woof

> bt (Arindam's best friends)

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 by: bertietaylor - Fri, 3 May 2024 03:46 UTC

Demps Fotopoulos wrote:

> Volney wrote:

>> On 4/27/2024 5:50 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> FYI, the Maxwell-Lorentz equations as they stand do conserve
>>> energy-momentum. If you want to be taken seriously it is up to you to
>>> tell the world what is wrong with Maxwell-Lorentz,
>>> and how these equations must be modified.
>>> As long as you can't do that you are merely an incompetent tinkerer,
>>
>> It is entirely possible that Banjo stumbled across that apparent
>> violation of momentum by momentum being carried away by the
>> electromagnetic field. But we will never know since he refuses to
>> produce a writeup in sufficient detail for someone to reproduce his
>> experiment, instead writing "Watch my videos!!!". Add his stubbornness
>> that he insists this is something new that violates
>> Newton/Einstein/Maxwell rather than a known existing behavior, you do
>> get the incompetent tinkerer.

> not true, both wrong. Those are not "Maxwell's equations", but imported
> equations he stole from somebody else, ie Faraday, kiss my ass, etc.

The struggle then was with Ampere's equations for the electromagnetic force
which involved the two currents in the forward and backward path and the
now familiar F=Bil where only one current and the resultant magnetic fields
nomal to it impact upon the current conductor of length l. This is now
exclusively used in motor design.

bt

>
๐—น๐˜†๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐˜„๐—ต๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ_๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ.๐—”๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป_๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_๐—ฝ๐—ผ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜_๐—ฏ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ธ_๐—ถ๐—ณ_๐—”๐—ง๐—”๐—–๐— ๐—ฆ_๐—บ๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—น๐—ฒ๐˜€_๐˜„๐—ถ๐—น๐—น_๐—ฏ๐—ฒ_๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_๐—ผ๐—ป_๐—ฅ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐˜€_๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜†
> https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/%76%69deo/0LmHzgkBYIll

>
๐—œ๐—ผ๐—œ_๐—œ๐˜'๐˜€_๐—”_๐—ง๐—ผ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—น_๐——๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—š๐—ฅ๐—”๐—–๐—˜!_๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ_๐—จ.๐—ฆ._๐—˜๐˜ƒ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ_๐—”๐—น๐—น_๐—ฅ๐—ฒ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด_๐—”๐—•๐—ฅ๐—”๐— ๐—ฆ_๐—ง๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ธ๐˜€_๐—ง๐—ผ_๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ_๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—ฅ!
> https://b%69%74%63%68ute.com/%76%69deo/0sHDgX4ba5KS

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 by: Bรกnyai Mรณricz Vรกr - Fri, 3 May 2024 09:56 UTC

bertietaylor wrote:

> Landon De la fuente wrote:
>> Volney wrote:
>>> On 5/2/2024 3:51 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>> If the momentum is carried away by the electromagnetic fiel there is
>>>> still momentum conservation.
>>> Exactly. I just allowed for the extremely remote possibility he
>>> detected something relevant. Almost certainly, if he found anything he
>>> found the known momentum conserving electric field.
>
>> that's why relativity is wrong, he makes momentum out of static
>> gravity.
>
> No this motor is to work in deep space. It is not a gravity drive.
> Momentum is caused by first and third law violations. Exactly as was
> predicted in Arindam's book To the Stars that he wrote in 1999 and
> published online free to all in 2000.

this is very nice, but De la fuente meant Einstine. The Einstine extracted
momentum out of empty gravity, in those equations. People are so stupid
doesn't know, nor ask, what those relativity equations are for.

here's the motherefucker pisrael attacking peaceful neighbour countries,
because not doing it "๐™ž๐™ฉ'๐™จ_๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™จ๐™š๐™ข๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™˜" lol. What a motherfucker fools, with
their supporters, the motherfucker english pigs and amrica.

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Eight Syrian soldiers were reportedly killed in the attack on Thursday
https://www.r%74.com/news/596918-israel-strikes-syria-compound/

which proves once again that the putina is a jew, not a Christian. The
putina is a lying fucking traitor ๐™ ๐™๐™–๐™ฏ๐™–๐™ง_๐™œ๐™ค๐™ฎ of khazaria. Period.

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bertietaylor wrote:

> Volney wrote:
>> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).
>
> No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side cause
> the motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one
> side, that facing the sun.

you don't undrestand, what gives "the rise in temperature on one side"?
Temperature of vacuum?

here's one more proof the putina is a jewkranian traitor piece of shit on
the face of the earth.

๐——๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ_๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜๐˜€_๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—ฏ๐˜‚๐˜€_๐—ถ๐—ป_๐—ฅ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ป_๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ด๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป_โ€“_๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ผ๐—ฟ
Two were injured when a village in Belgorod Region was hit in a Ukrainian
UAV attack, Vyacheslav Gladkov has said
https://www.r%74.com/russia/596927-drone-attack-belgorod-ukraine/

There you go folks...Genocide Joe 61billion dollars donation to the
Ukranazis are being utilised to murder innocent Russian civilians on the
street !

They will call this crap of course ''self defense'' like the IDF israelite
terrorists..... Ukraine is no victim. It is like Israel a country of
genocidal extremists dreaming of ethnic cleansing and destruction of
others....

Targeting civilians same as ISIS does. Same signature, same department in
Langley.

The punk Ukroids are too afraid to fight Russian soldiers head on so target
innocent people instead. Yeah, really brave you assholes. LIke the IDF
zionist neocon terrorists by the way.

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 by: bertietaylor - Fri, 3 May 2024 10:29 UTC

Lakhram Vassilikos wrote:

> bertietaylor wrote:

>> Volney wrote:
>>> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).
>>
>> No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side cause
>> the motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one
>> side, that facing the sun.

> you don't undrestand, what gives "the rise in temperature on one side"?

> Temperature of vacuum?

Plain electromagnetic in action. The electrical field impinging on the sail
creates a current which creates heat from resistance of the circuit. Thus
heat causes motion as in all heat engines.

> here's one more proof the putina is a jewkranian traitor piece of shit on

> the face of the earth.

> ๐——๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ_๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜๐˜€_๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ด๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—ฏ๐˜‚๐˜€_๐—ถ๐—ป_๐—ฅ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ป_๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ_๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ด๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป_โ€“_๐—ด๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ผ๐—ฟ
> Two were injured when a village in Belgorod Region was hit in a Ukrainian

> UAV attack, Vyacheslav Gladkov has said
> https://www.r%74.com/russia/596927-drone-attack-belgorod-ukraine/

> There you go folks...Genocide Joe 61billion dollars donation to the
> Ukranazis are being utilised to murder innocent Russian civilians on the

> street !

> They will call this crap of course ''self defense'' like the IDF
israelite
> terrorists..... Ukraine is no victim. It is like Israel a country of
> genocidal extremists dreaming of ethnic cleansing and destruction of
> others....

> Targeting civilians same as ISIS does. Same signature, same department in

> Langley.

> The punk Ukroids are too afraid to fight Russian soldiers head on so
target
> innocent people instead. Yeah, really brave you assholes. LIke the IDF
> zionist neocon terrorists by the way.

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 by: Macgreger Bobienski - Fri, 3 May 2024 13:47 UTC

bertietaylor wrote:

> Lakhram Vassilikos wrote:
>> bertietaylor wrote:
>>> Volney wrote:
>>>> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).
>>> No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side cause
>>> the motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one
>>> side, that facing the sun.
>
>> you don't undrestand, what gives "the rise in temperature on one side"?
>> Temperature of vacuum?
>
> Plain electromagnetic in action. The electrical field impinging on the
> sail creates a current which creates heat from resistance of the
> circuit. Thus heat causes motion as in all heat engines.

which comes from the pressure from the sun, proving the point. It has
nothing to do "heat engines" and temperature. You don't undrestand the
physicality of physics, me friend.

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 by: bertietaylor - Sat, 4 May 2024 04:34 UTC

Bรกnyai Mรณricz Vรกrkonyi wrote:

> bertietaylor wrote:

>> Landon De la fuente wrote:
>>> Volney wrote:
>>>> On 5/2/2024 3:51 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>> If the momentum is carried away by the electromagnetic fiel there is
>>>>> still momentum conservation.
>>>> Exactly. I just allowed for the extremely remote possibility he
>>>> detected something relevant. Almost certainly, if he found anything
he
>>>> found the known momentum conserving electric field.
>>
>>> that's why relativity is wrong, he makes momentum out of static
>>> gravity.
>>
>> No this motor is to work in deep space. It is not a gravity drive.
>> Momentum is caused by first and third law violations. Exactly as was
>> predicted in Arindam's book To the Stars that he wrote in 1999 and
>> published online free to all in 2000.

> this is very nice,

Thanks!

but De la fuente meant Einstine. The Einstine extracted
> momentum out of empty gravity, in those equations. People are so stupid
> doesn't know, nor ask, what those relativity equations are for.

They are there to mislead and confuse, to corrupt science by making
appearances superior to reality.

> here's the motherefucker pisrael attacking peaceful neighbour countries,

> because not doing it "๐™ž๐™ฉ'๐™จ_๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™จ๐™š๐™ข๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™˜" lol. What a motherfucker fools,
with
> their supporters, the motherfucker english pigs and amrica.

Pay each Israeli x dollars and give them visas to the Anglosphere.

> ๐—œ๐˜€๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ฒ๐—น_๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐˜€_๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜_๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ_๐——๐—ฎ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐˜€_โ€“_๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฎ
> Eight Syrian soldiers were reportedly killed in the attack on Thursday
> https://www.r%74.com/news/596918-israel-strikes-syria-compound/

> which proves once again that the putina is a jew, not a Christian. The
> putina is a lying fucking traitor ๐™ ๐™๐™–๐™ฏ๐™–๐™ง_๐™œ๐™ค๐™ฎ of khazaria. Period.

What should he do?

bt

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 by: bertietaylor - Sat, 4 May 2024 13:14 UTC

Macgreger Bobienski wrote:

> bertietaylor wrote:

>> Lakhram Vassilikos wrote:
>>> bertietaylor wrote:
>>>> Volney wrote:
>>>>> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).
>>>> No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side
cause
>>>> the motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one
>>>> side, that facing the sun.
>>
>>> you don't undrestand, what gives "the rise in temperature on one
side"?
>>> Temperature of vacuum?
>>
>> Plain electromagnetic in action. The electrical field impinging on the
>> sail creates a current which creates heat from resistance of the
>> circuit. Thus heat causes motion as in all heat engines.

> which comes from the pressure from the sun, proving the point. It has
> nothing to do "heat engines" and temperature. You don't undrestand the
> physicality of physics, me friend.

All physicists are the most ignorant scum of the planet. They are far worse
than the worst criminals. We the dogs of Arindam despise them. It is
because of these lowlife that all problems originate

There is pressure apparently from the sun but that is not from the momentum
of energy particles fir energy particles do not exist
What exists is radiation or electromagnetic waves. Waves are aetheric
disturbances caused by varying electric and magnetic fuelds. They are not
particles. When electric fields impact on matter they create electric
fields on the matter. Which line integrated over space create a potential.
That potential drives a current. That current on the resistive path creates
heat or rise of temperature. On the sun side. On the other side there is
low temperature. So there is a temperature differential from sun side to
the other side which is the key to heat engines. Motion happens as the
heated matter on sun side pushes against the cold matter on the other
side.

Which is why the solar sail moves. There is nothing to stop it so unlike
objects on earth which are fixed it has to move. Again not because of
momentum of particles but because of temperature difference between the sun
side and dark side of the sail.

In short quantum theory is just as bunkum as the theories of relativity but
is far less ridiculous.

Woof woof.

bt (the ghostly cyberdogs of Arindam)

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 by: Leonides Krakowski - Sat, 4 May 2024 19:00 UTC

bertietaylor wrote:

>> which comes from the pressure from the sun, proving the point. It has
>> nothing to do "heat engines" and temperature. You don't undrestand the
>> physicality of physics, me friend.
>
> There is pressure apparently from the sun but that is not from the
> momentum of energy particles fir energy particles do not exist
> What exists is radiation or electromagnetic waves.

that comes from the sun, fucking stupid. Not from the body. What an idiot.
It's the sun giving the pressure. Heat engines are something else, based on
mater/gas, not EM. You should excuse to everybody. What an idiot.

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 by: bertietaylor - Sun, 5 May 2024 14:16 UTC

Leonides Krakowski wrote:

> bertietaylor wrote:

>>> which comes from the pressure from the sun, proving the point. It has
>>> nothing to do "heat engines" and temperature. You don't undrestand the
>>> physicality of physics, me friend.
>>
>> There is pressure apparently from the sun but that is not from the
>> momentum of energy particles fir energy particles do not exist
>> What exists is radiation or electromagnetic waves.

> that comes from the sun, fucking stupid. Not from the body. What an
idiot.

Shut up you ignorant piece of Einstein's shit.
Be glad that the dogs of Arindam taught you a much needed lesson which you
may learn if you stopped veing a piece of shit from the arse of Einstein.
Now about science.

> It's the sun giving the pressure.

The sun provides electromagnetic radiation you incredibly idiotic,
cowardly, ridiculous piece of Einstein's shit.

Heat engines are something else, based on
> mater/gas, not EM.

Heat engines are about converting heat into motion, fool.
I explained that in detail, numbskull.

Now fuck off.

>You should excuse to everybody. What an idiot.

We are Arindam's dogs who know far better physics than Nobel prizewinnerd.

Again, fuck off, creep.

bt

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bertietaylor wrote:

> Heat engines are something else, based on
>> mater/gas, not EM.
>
> Heat engines are about converting heat into motion, fool.
> I explained that in detail, numbskull.

heat comes only from mater/gas fucking imbecile, not from EM. Kiss my ass.

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 by: Aether Regained - Sun, 5 May 2024 15:06 UTC

bertietaylor wrote:
>
>> Volney wrote:
>>
>> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).
>
> No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side cause
> the motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one side,
> that facing the sun.
>

@bertietaylor a.k.a @ArindamBanerjee,

You are confusing the action of the Crookes' radiometer with Nichols'
radiometer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

Crookes' radiometer is a heat engine that uses a light source as the
source of (radiant) heat, and a working substance, air.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichols_radiometer

Nichols' radiometer measures radiation pressure caused by light
momentum. The concept of photons are not required to explain this
momentum, Maxwell's wave theory is sufficient.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sun, 5 May 2024 21:18 UTC

Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@invalid.com> wrote:

> bertietaylor wrote:
> >
> >> Volney wrote:
> >>
> >> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).
> >
> > No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side cause
> > the motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one side,
> > that facing the sun.
> >
>
> @bertietaylor a.k.a @ArindamBanerjee,
>
> You are confusing the action of the Crookes' radiometer with Nichols'
> radiometer.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer
>
> Crookes' radiometer is a heat engine that uses a light source as the
> source of (radiant) heat, and a working substance, air.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichols_radiometer
>
> Nichols' radiometer measures radiation pressure caused by light
> momentum. The concept of photons are not required to explain this
> momentum, Maxwell's wave theory is sufficient.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure

Nichols' radiometer is a heat engine too.
Its heatsink is either the walls of the room,
or ultimately, if you go outside,
the cosmic background radiation,

Jan

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sun, 5 May 2024 21:18 UTC

Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 5/2/2024 3:51 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/27/2024 5:50 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >>> bertietaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That is not the case, so this is a new discovery - the Lorentz force
> >>>> does NOT have an equal and opposite reaction. Your point is merely
> >>>> theoretical.
> >>>> My evidence is experimental.
> >>>
> >>> Correct, merely experimental.
> >>> It stands falsified by a reliable theory.
> >>>
> >>> FYI, the Maxwell-Lorentz equations as they stand
> >>> do conserve energy-momentum.
> >>> If you want to be taken seriously it is up to you
> >>> to tell the world what is wrong with Maxwell-Lorentz,
> >>> and how these equations must be modified.
> >>>
> >>> As long as you can't do that you are merely an incompetent tinkerer,
> >>>
> >>
> >> It is entirely possible that Banjo stumbled across that apparent
> >> violation of momentum by momentum being carried away by the
> >> electromagnetic field.
> >
> > If the momentum is carried away by the electromagnetic fiel
> > there is still momentum conservation.
>
> Exactly. I just allowed for the extremely remote possibility he detected
> something relevant. Almost certainly, if he found anything he found the
> known momentum conserving electric field.
>
> > And photon drive really isn't a new idea.
>
> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).

Radiation pressure must be taken into account
when calculating corrections to satellite orbits.

And it costs real dollars, in fuel expended for station keeping
for geostationary sats, so it is really real.
And it was also found to be the cause of the Pioneer anomaly.

> > However, it suffers from the unpleasant fact
> > that c = 300 megawatt/newton, in slightly unconventional units.
>
> That is why what we are really seeing is sloppy demonstrations, it is
> very unlikely Aridam's experiments could detect that small effect. We
> won't know because Aridam's experiments are unreproduceable,
> insufficient detail to reproduce his situation.

Arindam's errors in his original demonstrations
of momentum non-conservation are trivial.
A bright high school kid can spot them.

Jan

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 by: bertietaylor - Mon, 6 May 2024 22:40 UTC

Aether Regained wrote:

> bertietaylor wrote:
>>
>>> Volney wrote:
>>>
>>> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).
>>
>> No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side cause
>> the motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one side,
>> that facing the sun.
>>

> @bertietaylor a.k.a @ArindamBanerjee,

Actually we are the ghostly cyberdogs of Arindam. And his only friends in the physics world of liars and frauds.

> You are confusing the action of the Crookes' radiometer with Nichols'
> radiometer.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer

> Crookes' radiometer is a heat engine that uses a light source as the
> source of (radiant) heat, and a working substance, air.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichols_radiometer

> Nichols' radiometer measures radiation pressure caused by light
> momentum. The concept of photons are not required to explain this
> momentum, Maxwell's wave theory is sufficient.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure

Thanks for the links. Yes wave theory is sufficient to explain so-called radiation pressure. As I explained the temperature difference caused by currents causing heat on the lighted side causes the motion. This does not mean that light has momentum. It is an aetheric disturbance causing fluctuations in the orbital paths of electrons thus causing potentials to drive the heat creating currents. The heated atoms push against the cooler atoms till that force reaches the last layer of atoms. Having nothing to push against they have to move. Thus there is motion from the impact of light.

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 by: bertietaylor - Mon, 6 May 2024 22:48 UTC

Arindam's inertia violation experiments can be repeated by anyone willing to spend a few hundred dollars and some time.

bt

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 by: bertietaylor - Tue, 7 May 2024 00:04 UTC

J. J. Lodder wrote:

> Aether Regained <AetherRegaind@invalid.com> wrote:

>> bertietaylor wrote:
>> >
>> >> Volney wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).
>> >
>> > No that is a heat engine. Temperature differences on either side cause
>> > the motion. Radiant heat is em waves raising the temperature on one side,
>> > that facing the sun.
>> >
>>
>> @bertietaylor a.k.a @ArindamBanerjee,
>>
>> You are confusing the action of the Crookes' radiometer with Nichols'
>> radiometer.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer
>>
>> Crookes' radiometer is a heat engine that uses a light source as the
>> source of (radiant) heat, and a working substance, air.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nichols_radiometer
>>
>> Nichols' radiometer measures radiation pressure caused by light
>> momentum. The concept of photons are not required to explain this
>> momentum, Maxwell's wave theory is sufficient.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure

> Nichols' radiometer is a heat engine too.
> Its heatsink is either the walls of the room,
> or ultimately, if you go outside,
> the cosmic background radiation,

> Jan

The CBR is the radiation from all the stars and galaxies. Radiation provides no monentum for radiation has no mass. Momentum is mass multiplied by velocity. No mass, no momentum. But there us APPEARANCE of momentum with solar sails in sunlight.

bt

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 by: bertietaylor - Tue, 7 May 2024 02:28 UTC

Bud Fudlacker wrote:

> bertietaylor wrote:

>> Heat engines are something else, based on
>>> mater/gas, not EM.
>>
>> Heat engines are about converting heat into motion, fool.
>> I explained that in detail, numbskull.

> heat comes only from mater/gas fucking imbecile, not from EM. Kiss my ass.

Shit of Einstein, learn the old correct science that aether the medium of em waves IS matter.

Now fuck off.

bt

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From: banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com (Arindam Banerjee)
 by: Arindam Banerjee - Tue, 7 May 2024 07:00 UTC

Le 06/05/2024 ร  07:18, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) a รฉcrit :
> Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 5/2/2024 3:51 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> > Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 4/27/2024 5:50 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> >>> bertietaylor <bertietaylor@myyahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That is not the case, so this is a new discovery - the Lorentz force
>> >>>> does NOT have an equal and opposite reaction. Your point is merely
>> >>>> theoretical.
>> >>>> My evidence is experimental.
>> >>>
>> >>> Correct, merely experimental.
>> >>> It stands falsified by a reliable theory.
>> >>>
>> >>> FYI, the Maxwell-Lorentz equations as they stand
>> >>> do conserve energy-momentum.
>> >>> If you want to be taken seriously it is up to you
>> >>> to tell the world what is wrong with Maxwell-Lorentz,
>> >>> and how these equations must be modified.
>> >>>
>> >>> As long as you can't do that you are merely an incompetent tinkerer,
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> It is entirely possible that Banjo stumbled across that apparent
>> >> violation of momentum by momentum being carried away by the
>> >> electromagnetic field.
>> >
>> > If the momentum is carried away by the electromagnetic fiel
>> > there is still momentum conservation.
>>
>> Exactly. I just allowed for the extremely remote possibility he detected
>> something relevant. Almost certainly, if he found anything he found the
>> known momentum conserving electric field.
>>
>> > And photon drive really isn't a new idea.
>>
>> Even solar sails use that effect (momentum of sunlight).
>
> Radiation pressure must be taken into account
> when calculating corrections to satellite orbits.
>
> And it costs real dollars, in fuel expended for station keeping
> for geostationary sats, so it is really real.
> And it was also found to be the cause of the Pioneer anomaly.
>
>> > However, it suffers from the unpleasant fact
>> > that c = 300 megawatt/newton, in slightly unconventional units.
>>
>> That is why what we are really seeing is sloppy demonstrations, it is
>> very unlikely Aridam's experiments could detect that small effect. We
>> won't know because Aridam's experiments are unreproduceable,
>> insufficient detail to reproduce his situation.
>
> Arindam's errors in his original demonstrations
> of momentum non-conservation are trivial.

The inertia violations are obvious. There are no errors.
That experiments upsets dearly held theories, reducing them to wrong
conjectures.
Science gets the same sort of boost as with the discovery of electricity,
air pressure, radioactivity...

> A bright high school kid can spot them.

So far none has.
You may try.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
>
> Jan

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 by: Santiago Schrรถder - Tue, 7 May 2024 10:18 UTC

bertietaylor wrote:

> Bud Fudlacker wrote:
>>>> Heat engines are something else, based on mater/gas, not EM.
>>> Heat engines are about converting heat into motion, fool.
>> heat comes only from mater/gas fucking imbecile, not from EM. Kiss my
>> ass.
>
> Shit of Einstein, learn the old correct science that aether the medium
> of em waves IS matter.

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From: banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com (Arindam Banerjee)
 by: Arindam Banerjee - Tue, 7 May 2024 10:30 UTC

Le 07/05/2024 ร  20:18, Santiago Schrรถder a รฉcrit :
> bertietaylor wrote:
>
>> Bud Fudlacker wrote:
>>>>> Heat engines are something else, based on mater/gas, not EM.
>>>> Heat engines are about converting heat into motion, fool.
>>> heat comes only from mater/gas fucking imbecile, not from EM. Kiss my
>>> ass.
>>
>> Shit of Einstein, learn the old correct science that aether the medium
>> of em waves IS matter.
>
> if it is, send me a bottle, for me to analyse under the microscope.

Can't do that. Impossible. You may as well try to put a rainbow under the
microscope.
Just that, as all waves need a medium to propagate, electromagnetic waves
too need a medium to propagate.
I don't think this will enter your fat head.
Now the medium for em waves to propagate is aether.
All matter (protons, electrons) go through it without resistance, as it is
composed of infinitely fine solid matter.

Arindam Banerjee


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