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* microprocessor researchJohn Larkin
+* Re: microprocessor researchPhil Hobbs
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|    `- Re: microprocessor researchAnthony William Sloman
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 by: John Larkin - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:40 UTC

Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
"America's next drag superstar"

Do uPs have preferred pronouns?

I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.

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 by: Phil Hobbs - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:58 UTC

John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>
> Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
> but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
> RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
> "America's next drag superstar"
>
> Do uPs have preferred pronouns?
>
> I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.
>
>

I’ve been deprecating miso for years and years. If it don’t have dead
animal in it, it ain’t dinner.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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 by: John Larkin - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:00 UTC

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:58:43 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
>> but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
>> RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
>> "America's next drag superstar"
>>
>> Do uPs have preferred pronouns?
>>
>> I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.
>>
>>
>
>I’ve been deprecating miso for years and years. If it don’t have dead
>animal in it, it ain’t dinner.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

So I can't take you and your brat to Acme. Oysters are alive when you
eat them.

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 by: Phil Hobbs - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:50 UTC

John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:58:43 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
>>> but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
>>> RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
>>> "America's next drag superstar"
>>>
>>> Do uPs have preferred pronouns?
>>>
>>> I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I’ve been deprecating miso for years and years. If it don’t have dead
>> animal in it, it ain’t dinner.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>
> So I can't take you and your brat to Acme. Oysters are alive when you
> eat them.
>
>

Sounds lovely, as long as they have something other than fishy stuff. I’m a
bit of a statistical outlier—I’m from Vancouver, don’t ski, and hate
seafood.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
(who remains mystified that anyone would consider crawfish etoufee a
foodstuff)

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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 by: Martin Brown - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:53 UTC

On 26/01/2024 15:40, John Larkin wrote:
>
> Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
> but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
> RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
> "America's next drag superstar"

Must be your search history polluting the cache then.
I get this as first search hit:

https://www.renesas.com/us/en/products/microcontrollers-microprocessors/ra-cortex-m-mcus/ra6e1-200mhz-arm-cortex-m33-entry-line-high-performance-streamlined-connectivity
>
> Do uPs have preferred pronouns?
>
> I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.
>

--
Martin Brown

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 by: john larkin - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:09 UTC

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:50:32 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:58:43 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>
>>> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
>>>> but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
>>>> RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
>>>> "America's next drag superstar"
>>>>
>>>> Do uPs have preferred pronouns?
>>>>
>>>> I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I?ve been deprecating miso for years and years. If it don?t have dead
>>> animal in it, it ain?t dinner.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Phil Hobbs
>>
>> So I can't take you and your brat to Acme. Oysters are alive when you
>> eat them.
>>
>>
>
>Sounds lovely, as long as they have something other than fishy stuff. I’m a
>bit of a statistical outlier—I’m from Vancouver, don’t ski, and hate
>seafood.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs
>(who remains mystified that anyone would consider crawfish etoufee a
>foodstuff)

Except that done right, it's the best thing you've ever put in your
mouth. My Cajun ex-wife did it right.

How about Portugese? We recently discovered a fabulous place near our
house, Uma Casa. Everything has been great, including, improbably, the
burger. It's in the bit of Church street where Sister Act was filmed.

And there's a wonderful Thai place on Church about a block away.

I checked with Mo, who remembers things for me, and she said that we
took you to The Gold Mirror and you liked it.

So much food, so little time.

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 by: jim whitby - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:09 UTC

On 1/26/24 10:40, John Larkin wrote:
>
> Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
> but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
> RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
> "America's next drag superstar"
>
> Do uPs have preferred pronouns?
>
> I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.
>
Try this:
<https://www.renesas.com/us/en/products/microcontrollers-microprocessors/ra-cortex-m-mcus/ra6e1-200mhz-arm-cortex-m33-entry-line-high-performance-streamlined-connectivity>

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 by: Phil Hobbs - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 19:36 UTC

john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:50:32 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:58:43 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
>>>>> but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
>>>>> RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
>>>>> "America's next drag superstar"
>>>>>
>>>>> Do uPs have preferred pronouns?
>>>>>
>>>>> I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I?ve been deprecating miso for years and years. If it don?t have dead
>>>> animal in it, it ain?t dinner.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>
>>> So I can't take you and your brat to Acme. Oysters are alive when you
>>> eat them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Sounds lovely, as long as they have something other than fishy stuff. I’m a
>> bit of a statistical outlier—I’m from Vancouver, don’t ski, and hate
>> seafood.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>> (who remains mystified that anyone would consider crawfish etoufee a
>> foodstuff)
>
> Except that done right, it's the best thing you've ever put in your
> mouth. My Cajun ex-wife did it right.
>
> How about Portugese? We recently discovered a fabulous place near our
> house, Uma Casa. Everything has been great, including, improbably, the
> burger. It's in the bit of Church street where Sister Act was filmed.
>
> And there's a wonderful Thai place on Church about a block away.
>
> I checked with Mo, who remembers things for me, and she said that we
> took you to The Gold Mirror and you liked it.
>
> So much food, so little time.
>
>

Portuguese is great. Our favorite place round here is Portuguese: Bistro 12
in Tarrytown.

Simon is getting there tonight—he wants to go to the BIOS show as well as
Photonics West and DesignCon down in San Jose. All helpfully scheduled on
top of each other.

We’re bringing a bunch of stuff to show people as we go—sort of an upmarket
version of the guy selling wristwatches out of his raincoat. ;)

Simon’s new tester company, TheJigsApp, (*) is launching next week too.
It’s really cool—mass-customized test jigs, with 3D printed cradles and
probe boards, made automatically from your Gerbers and delivered in a week.

Looking forward to seeing you and your lovely wife.

(We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming, bringing you the
very best in political cheap shots and personal abuse.) ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
(*) So far everyone from NY gets the joke, but only a minority (mainly
older) elsewhere.

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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 by: john larkin - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 20:00 UTC

On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 19:36:10 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

>john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:50:32 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>
>>> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:58:43 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
>>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
>>>>>> but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
>>>>>> RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
>>>>>> "America's next drag superstar"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do uPs have preferred pronouns?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I?ve been deprecating miso for years and years. If it don?t have dead
>>>>> animal in it, it ain?t dinner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>>
>>>> So I can't take you and your brat to Acme. Oysters are alive when you
>>>> eat them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds lovely, as long as they have something other than fishy stuff. I?m a
>>> bit of a statistical outlier?I?m from Vancouver, don?t ski, and hate
>>> seafood.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Phil Hobbs
>>> (who remains mystified that anyone would consider crawfish etoufee a
>>> foodstuff)
>>
>> Except that done right, it's the best thing you've ever put in your
>> mouth. My Cajun ex-wife did it right.
>>
>> How about Portugese? We recently discovered a fabulous place near our
>> house, Uma Casa. Everything has been great, including, improbably, the
>> burger. It's in the bit of Church street where Sister Act was filmed.
>>
>> And there's a wonderful Thai place on Church about a block away.
>>
>> I checked with Mo, who remembers things for me, and she said that we
>> took you to The Gold Mirror and you liked it.
>>
>> So much food, so little time.
>>
>>
>
>Portuguese is great. Our favorite place round here is Portuguese: Bistro 12
>in Tarrytown.
>
>Simon is getting there tonight—he wants to go to the BIOS show as well as
>Photonics West and DesignCon down in San Jose. All helpfully scheduled on
>top of each other.
>
>We’re bringing a bunch of stuff to show people as we go—sort of an upmarket
>version of the guy selling wristwatches out of his raincoat. ;)
>
>Simon’s new tester company, TheJigsApp, (*) is launching next week too.
>It’s really cool—mass-customized test jigs, with 3D printed cradles and
>probe boards, made automatically from your Gerbers and delivered in a week.
>
>
>Looking forward to seeing you and your lovely wife.
>
>(We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming, bringing you the
>very best in political cheap shots and personal abuse.) ;)
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs
>(*) So far everyone from NY gets the joke, but only a minority (mainly
>older) elsewhere.

Groan.

Will he do a hardware+software test rig for, say, a small blue box?

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john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 19:36:10 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>> john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:50:32 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:58:43 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs
>>>>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wikipedia usually has an entry on major microprocessor architectures,
>>>>>>> but a search for Renesas RA6E (as someone's suggested alternate to the
>>>>>>> RP2040) keeps directing me to RuPaul's Drag Race, "the search for
>>>>>>> "America's next drag superstar"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do uPs have preferred pronouns?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do know that MISO and MOSI are now deprecated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I?ve been deprecating miso for years and years. If it don?t have dead
>>>>>> animal in it, it ain?t dinner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>>>
>>>>> So I can't take you and your brat to Acme. Oysters are alive when you
>>>>> eat them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sounds lovely, as long as they have something other than fishy stuff. I?m a
>>>> bit of a statistical outlier?I?m from Vancouver, don?t ski, and hate
>>>> seafood.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>> (who remains mystified that anyone would consider crawfish etoufee a
>>>> foodstuff)
>>>
>>> Except that done right, it's the best thing you've ever put in your
>>> mouth. My Cajun ex-wife did it right.
>>>
>>> How about Portugese? We recently discovered a fabulous place near our
>>> house, Uma Casa. Everything has been great, including, improbably, the
>>> burger. It's in the bit of Church street where Sister Act was filmed.
>>>
>>> And there's a wonderful Thai place on Church about a block away.
>>>
>>> I checked with Mo, who remembers things for me, and she said that we
>>> took you to The Gold Mirror and you liked it.
>>>
>>> So much food, so little time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Portuguese is great. Our favorite place round here is Portuguese: Bistro 12
>> in Tarrytown.
>>
>> Simon is getting there tonight—he wants to go to the BIOS show as well as
>> Photonics West and DesignCon down in San Jose. All helpfully scheduled on
>> top of each other.
>>
>> We’re bringing a bunch of stuff to show people as we go—sort of an upmarket
>> version of the guy selling wristwatches out of his raincoat. ;)
>>
>> Simon’s new tester company, TheJigsApp, (*) is launching next week too.
>> It’s really cool—mass-customized test jigs, with 3D printed cradles and
>> probe boards, made automatically from your Gerbers and delivered in a week.
>>
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing you and your lovely wife.
>>
>> (We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming, bringing you the
>> very best in political cheap shots and personal abuse.) ;)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil Hobbs
>> (*) So far everyone from NY gets the joke, but only a minority (mainly
>> older) elsewhere.
>
> Groan.
>
A reference to a common experience: “Okay, party’s over. The magic gizmo
works, now I have to test and ship them, oh crap.“

> Will he do a hardware+software test rig for, say, a small blue box?

I’m sure he’ll be amenable to persuasion. ;)

His bit is mainly the custom bed-of-nails jig, with an auto-generated PCB
for the probes. It comes with the EDA files for the probe board, so folks
with special requirements can customize it. <https://thejigsapp.com>

It’s ready to go, and will be actually offered for sale as soon as the
patents get filed, which will be very shortly.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC /
Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

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 by: Anthony William Slom - Sat, 27 Jan 2024 02:39 UTC

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:36:18 AM UTC+11, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:50:32 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
> >> John Larkin <j...@997PotHill.com> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:58:43 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
> >>>> John Larkin <j...@997PotHill.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Simon’s new tester company, TheJigsApp, (*) is launching next week too.
> It’s really cool—mass-customized test jigs, with 3D printed cradles and
> probe boards, made automatically from your Gerbers and delivered in a week.

<snip<

> (*) So far everyone from NY gets the joke, but only a minority (mainly
> older) elsewhere.

I'm 81, which is older, but for me it's a pretty obvious pun.'

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/the%20jig%20is%20up

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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