On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55 AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
> wrote:> >On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai
> ><vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:
> >
> >>By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
> >> February 6, 2024
> >>According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey,
> >>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
> >>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
> >>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and
> >>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while,
> >>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their

> >Wars have a purpose.

> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
> entanglements...

How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
situation, though? He further complicated the situation
by declaring a terrorist organization and then
declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).

That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
It's also undiplomatic.

What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
NATO, WHO, NAFTA, etc.) that were win-win beneficial, he apparently only wanted to win if someone else lost.
Ditching those isn't quite a declaration of war, but it was certainly a tangled mess.

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
>> wrote:> >On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai
>> ><vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:
>> >
>> >>By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
>> >> February 6, 2024
>> >>According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey,
>> >>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
>> >>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
>> >>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and
>> >>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while,
>> >>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their
>
>> >Wars have a purpose.
>
>> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
>> entanglements...
>
>How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
>situation, though? He further complicated the situation
>by declaring a terrorist organization and then
>declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).
>
>That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
>It's also undiplomatic.
>
>What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
> NATO, WHO, NAFTA, etc.) that were win-win beneficial, he apparently only wanted to win if someone else lost.
>Ditching those isn't quite a declaration of war, but it was certainly a tangled mess.

Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

On 11/02/2024 9:09 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
>>> wrote:> >On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai <vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:

<snip>

>>> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
>>> entanglements...
>>
>> How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
>> situation, though? He further complicated the situation
>> by declaring a terrorist organization and then
>> declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).
>>
>> That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
>> It's also undiplomatic.
>>
>> What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
>> NATO, WHO, NAFTA, etc.) that were win-win beneficial, he apparently only wanted to win if someone else lost.
>> Ditching those isn't quite a declaration of war, but it was certainly a tangled mess.
>
> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

Nobody sane likes Trump. He lies just as much as you do. His lies are
marginally more plausible - plausible enough to fool quite a few people,
which makes him more dangerous than you are, but no less unsavoury.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:09:21 AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:

> >> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
> >> entanglements...
> >
> >How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
> >situation, though? He further complicated the situation
> >by declaring a terrorist organization and then
> >declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).
> >
> >That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
> >It's also undiplomatic.
> >
> >What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,

> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did
you think on that issue?

On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:40:11 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:09:21?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>
>> >> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
>> >> entanglements...
>> >
>> >How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
>> >situation, though? He further complicated the situation
>> >by declaring a terrorist organization and then
>> >declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).
>> >
>> >That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
>> >It's also undiplomatic.
>> >
>> >What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
>
>> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?
>
>If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
>then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
>citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did
>you think on that issue?

The impeachment was clearly politically-motivated and therefore
baseless and worthy of only contempt. As for sacking the Ukrainian
ambassador, whether Trump gave a reason or not, I'm sure he had a damn
good one for doing it.
Roll on November!

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 3:55:05 PM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:40:11 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:09:21?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:

> >> >What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
> >
> >> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?
> >If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
> >then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
> >citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did
> >you think on that issue?

> The impeachment was clearly politically-motivated and therefore
> baseless and worthy of only contempt.

Unacceptable. Policy is important, and that IS A BASE from which
impeachment is entirely proper and honorable. A president who solicits
bribes in such a way is in violation of his oath of office.
Contempt is easy, for some.

> As for sacking the Ukrainian
> ambassador, whether Trump gave a reason or not, I'm sure he had a damn
> good one for doing it.

Prejudice, also, is an easy path to travel; no decision at any branch, just
follow the lead ant's pheromones.

On a sunny day (Sun, 11 Feb 2024 23:54:58 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom
<cd@notformail.com> wrote in <genisitkakmmqr2h7ahovvn27j9e773ntv@4ax.com>:

>On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:40:11 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:09:21?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>
>>> >> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
>>> >> entanglements...
>>> >
>>> >How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
>>> >situation, though? He further complicated the situation
>>> >by declaring a terrorist organization and then
>>> >declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).
>>> >
>>> >That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
>>> >It's also undiplomatic.
>>> >
>>> >What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
>>
>>> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?
>>
>>If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
>>then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
>>citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did
>>you think on that issue?
>
>The impeachment was clearly politically-motivated and therefore
>baseless and worthy of only contempt. As for sacking the Ukrainian
>ambassador, whether Trump gave a reason or not, I'm sure he had a damn
>good one for doing it.
>Roll on November!

Long ago I liked Reagan, no war, just common sense, some bluff (star-wars)..

As to Trump, he is jewish I think, and like that idiot israeli genocide committing war monger
the trumpo seems to think he can do anything he likes, violating any rule or law.
He has now been on trial or convicted for so many crimes
false value of properties, raping a women, keeping secret documents,
encouraging storming Capitol Hill etc etc
the list is long.
And I see a correlation between Trump's presidency and COVID
Trump started sanctioning China
Quite possible that Dr Faulty I think his name was
went to Trump after the DOD had marked his experiments with Bat viruses as too dangerous,
talked trump into having it done in China, to hurt China basically.
That backfired in a huge way.
And Faulty was made a star under trump's reign.
He should be sentenced to death by nitrogen or whatever they use these days.

De Santis is out, I do not like his stand on abortion..
Now Nicky Hailstorm, who has a jewish husband may well be the one to become president
in case trump is locked up for example.
Many years ago I heard her speaking at a UN meeting.
My thought, in that second, was "Here is WW3".

So and that republican party, its members teach kids earth was created 4000 years ago,
more shit, proposed Pi is 4 once, and deny any life outside earth
The Christian dogma religions, little kid abusers
was a product of the Roman empire to control people and has cost millions of lives in wars it created and people it
pursued as witches, so much anti-science crap
Life outside earth was detected by Dr Levin's experiment on the NASA Viking mission:
http://www.gillevin.com/
but what a challenge for them poor brainwashed Christian kids and their leaders who live on their pockets.
So NASA partly controlled by Repugblicans will never admit to life on other planets.,
And the jews worshipping Einstein's photon particle of light while even a blind man can see that is not correct.
Anti science club republicans are.

So where does that leave US?
An other Biden -> more war mongering, nuclear attack on Kiev perhaps
escalation..
Trump, now babbling about countries not paying enough for US weapons having them attacked by Russia,
Nicky Hailstorm who is very very dangerous in what she says
Last decent president was Obama.
I cannot vote in the US.. so...
Better join the preppers.
:-)

On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 10:55:05 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:40:11 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:09:21?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >
> >> >> That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
> >> >> entanglements...
> >> >
> >> >How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
> >> >situation, though? He further complicated the situation
> >> >by declaring a terrorist organization and then
> >> >declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).
> >> >
> >> >That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
> >> >It's also undiplomatic.
> >> >
> >> >What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
> >
> >> Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?
> >
> >If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
> >then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
> >citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did
> >you think on that issue?
>
> The impeachment was clearly politically-motivated and therefore
> baseless and worthy of only contempt.

Trump was impeached for trying to blackmail Zelensky into setting up a fake investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden in order to help his 2020 election campaign.
His acquittal was entirely politically motivated - the Senate refused to even look at the evidence. Cursitor Doom's capacity to misinterpret the most obvious evidence as supporting his preferred version of events is bizarre. If one took him seriously it would be contemptible, but that would be taking him more seriously than he deserves.

> As for sacking the Ukrainian ambassador, whether Trump gave a reason or not, I'm sure he had a damn
> good one for doing it.

Of course you are. You do like fatuous conspiracy theories.

> Roll on November!

The US electorate didn't go for Trump in 2020. It seems unlikely that he will look any more electable in 2024.

--
Bil Sloman, Sydney