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* Intel AlteraJohn Larkin
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`* Re: Intel AlteraJan Panteltje
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Subject: Intel Altera
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 by: John Larkin - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 21:33 UTC

After acquiring Altera for $17e9, they are spinning it off.

Intel can't do anything but the ancient x86.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Intel

They fell behind on fab, too, after inversing a couple billion in the
Cymer/ASML EUV buyout.

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Subject: Re: Intel Altera
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 by: Bill Sloman - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:58 UTC

On 10/03/2024 8:33 am, John Larkin wrote:
> After acquiring Altera for $17e9, they are spinning it off.
>
> Intel can't do anything but the ancient x86.

Their multiprocessor chips don't look much like the 8086, and are great
deal bigger (at least in transistor count). Some of them may be code
compatible, in that they can still run ancient 8086 code, but Intel
doesn't always chose to cripple themselves in that way.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Intel
>
> They fell behind on fab, too, after investing a couple billion in the
> Cymer/ASML EUV buyout.

They did, but still seem to be trying to catch up

https://www.techpowerup.com/316589/intel-demos-3d-transistors-ribbonfet-and-powervia-technologies.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Subject: Re: Intel Altera
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 by: Jan Panteltje - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 06:28 UTC

On a sunny day (Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:33:04 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <3pkpuit8b4jn6b92ef5u9ti728ctsfsonm@4ax.com>:

>After acquiring Altera for $17e9, they are spinning it off.
>
>Intel can't do anything but the ancient x86.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Intel
>
>They fell behind on fab, too, after inversing a couple billion in the
>Cymer/ASML EUV buyout.

Looks like things are more and more run by business men,
not by engineers.
And run by politicians.
Look at Boeing's problems with that max plane... now wheels fall off,
landing gears crumble...
US IQ is going down.
One look at the presidential candidates confirms that :-)

People will forget US ever existed and one day someone will rediscover it
and find the US natives living in tents, black warlords eating each other...
Maya empire... Roman empire, all came and went.
:-)
(Maybe a smily is not appropriate here, but then again....)

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 by: John Larkin - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 09:44 UTC

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 06:28:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

>On a sunny day (Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:33:04 -0800) it happened John Larkin
><jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <3pkpuit8b4jn6b92ef5u9ti728ctsfsonm@4ax.com>:
>
>>After acquiring Altera for $17e9, they are spinning it off.
>>
>>Intel can't do anything but the ancient x86.
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Intel
>>
>>They fell behind on fab, too, after inversing a couple billion in the
>>Cymer/ASML EUV buyout.
>
>Looks like things are more and more run by business men,
>not by engineers.
>And run by politicians.
>Look at Boeing's problems with that max plane... now wheels fall off,
>landing gears crumble...
>US IQ is going down.
>One look at the presidential candidates confirms that :-)
>
>People will forget US ever existed and one day someone will rediscover it
>and find the US natives living in tents, black warlords eating each other...
>Maya empire... Roman empire, all came and went.
>:-)
>(Maybe a smily is not appropriate here, but then again....)

You'd better sign up for a Russian language class.

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 by: Bill Sloman - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 09:52 UTC

On 10/03/2024 8:44 pm, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 06:28:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On a sunny day (Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:33:04 -0800) it happened John Larkin
>> <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <3pkpuit8b4jn6b92ef5u9ti728ctsfsonm@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> After acquiring Altera for $17e9, they are spinning it off.
>>>
>>> Intel can't do anything but the ancient x86.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Intel
>>>
>>> They fell behind on fab, too, after inversing a couple billion in the
>>> Cymer/ASML EUV buyout.
>>
>> Looks like things are more and more run by business men,
>> not by engineers.
>> And run by politicians.
>> Look at Boeing's problems with that max plane... now wheels fall off,
>> landing gears crumble...
>> US IQ is going down.
>> One look at the presidential candidates confirms that :-)
>>
>> People will forget US ever existed and one day someone will rediscover it
>> and find the US natives living in tents, black warlords eating each other...
>> Maya empire... Roman empire, all came and went.
>> :-)
>> (Maybe a smily is not appropriate here, but then again....)
>
> You'd better sign up for a Russian language class.

Chinese would be more realistic, but that's an old joke.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: Jan Panteltje - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 10:47 UTC

On a sunny day (Sun, 10 Mar 2024 01:44:53 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <b60ruilido6m8g7qv8nko1sn0uknvnpk66@4ax.com>:

>On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 06:28:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:33:04 -0800) it happened John Larkin
>><jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <3pkpuit8b4jn6b92ef5u9ti728ctsfsonm@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>After acquiring Altera for $17e9, they are spinning it off.
>>>
>>>Intel can't do anything but the ancient x86.
>>>
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Intel
>>>
>>>They fell behind on fab, too, after inversing a couple billion in the
>>>Cymer/ASML EUV buyout.
>>
>>Looks like things are more and more run by business men,
>>not by engineers.
>>And run by politicians.
>>Look at Boeing's problems with that max plane... now wheels fall off,
>>landing gears crumble...
>>US IQ is going down.
>>One look at the presidential candidates confirms that :-)
>>
>>People will forget US ever existed and one day someone will rediscover it
>>and find the US natives living in tents, black warlords eating each other...
>>Maya empire... Roman empire, all came and went.
>>:-)
>>(Maybe a smily is not appropriate here, but then again....)
>
>You'd better sign up for a Russian language class.

In what now still is the US, sure, and Chinese!
After it rained Tsar Bombas

Or maybe German, thanks to israel committing genocide and US policies, migration, ultra right is
becoming ever stronger in Germany, alliances like Germany Japan like in WW2 could form again too.
Cannot blame them Germans, they have to pay more for gas now US precedent buythen killed the gas pipeline
from Russia to the EU.
Or when all of Africa moves north to the EU and all of South America north to the US due to changing climate..
In the greater view of things US is just a transient, like everything else.
I have no fear Russia is going to want to invade here, Putin was clear about that.
But the white house moron using a CIA controlled Ukrainian comic is just burning lives all over the world
so hopefully he gets what he asked for.
I'd like to sail away to a nice warm island in the Pacific away from all that crap and live from what I find there.
Bring a portable SW radio and some solar cells to check if civilization (ahum) still exists.
I started learning Chinese, but would have to live there a while for pronunciation for it to work,
SF has a good chance to be Chinese after WW3, or was it 4?
smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/doomsday-clock-stays-at-90-seconds-to-midnight-180983653/

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 by: Bill Sloman - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 13:06 UTC

On 10/03/2024 9:47 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Sun, 10 Mar 2024 01:44:53 -0800) it happened John Larkin
> <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <b60ruilido6m8g7qv8nko1sn0uknvnpk66@4ax.com>:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 06:28:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On a sunny day (Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:33:04 -0800) it happened John Larkin
>>> <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <3pkpuit8b4jn6b92ef5u9ti728ctsfsonm@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> After acquiring Altera for $17e9, they are spinning it off.
>>>>
>>>> Intel can't do anything but the ancient x86.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Intel
>>>>
>>>> They fell behind on fab, too, after inversing a couple billion in the
>>>> Cymer/ASML EUV buyout.
>>>
>>> Looks like things are more and more run by business men,
>>> not by engineers.
>>> And run by politicians.
>>> Look at Boeing's problems with that max plane... now wheels fall off,
>>> landing gears crumble...
>>> US IQ is going down.
>>> One look at the presidential candidates confirms that :-)
>>>
>>> People will forget US ever existed and one day someone will rediscover it
>>> and find the US natives living in tents, black warlords eating each other...
>>> Maya empire... Roman empire, all came and went.
>>> :-)
>>> (Maybe a smily is not appropriate here, but then again....)
>>
>> You'd better sign up for a Russian language class.
>
> In what now still is the US, sure, and Chinese!

<snip>

> I'd like to sail away to a nice warm island in the Pacific away from all that crap and live from what I find there.
> Bring a portable SW radio and some solar cells to check if civilization (ahum) still exists.

Australia is picky about the people they let in. Geriatric lunatics
without relatives here aren't preferred immigrants. And we do have a lot
of Chinese immigrants already - after WW3 they might find the place even
more attractive.

<snip>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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