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Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems on Government Computers

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From: bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman)
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Subject: Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors,
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by: Bill Sloman - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 05:12 UTC

On 5/04/2024 10:40 am, Jack Carlson wrote:
> On 4/4/2024 2:28 PM, jim whitby wrote:
>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 09:01:29 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
>>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:57:30 +0200, jim whitby <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:31:40 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
>>>>> On 4/3/2024 1:59 PM, jim whitby wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:20:42 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's not important what I do professionally. I told you what I do
>>>>>>> here, and I'm extremely talented at it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I seem to have missed that.
>>>>>
>>>>> You miss everything of importance.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is your occupation?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not important here.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the confirmation.
>>>
>>> The appropriate treatment for proven jerks is to ignore them.
>>>
>>> I don't know why they post to s.e.d., given they have no interest in
>>> electronics.
>>
>> I like exposing him(?) for what he(?) is.
>
> You've exposed nothing but your own inadequacy.

Being rude about John Larkin is shooting fish in a barrel, but he does
advance a lot of popular fallacies, and gives the rest of us the chance
to be rude about them.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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From: jl@650pot.com (john larkin)
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by: john larkin - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 17:25 UTC

On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:12:11 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
wrote:

>On 5/04/2024 10:40 am, Jack Carlson wrote:
>> On 4/4/2024 2:28 PM, jim whitby wrote:
>>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 09:01:29 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:57:30 +0200, jim whitby <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:31:40 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/3/2024 1:59 PM, jim whitby wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:20:42 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's not important what I do professionally. I told you what I do
>>>>>>>> here, and I'm extremely talented at it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I seem to have missed that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You miss everything of importance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is your occupation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not important here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the confirmation.
>>>>
>>>> The appropriate treatment for proven jerks is to ignore them.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know why they post to s.e.d., given they have no interest in
>>>> electronics.
>>>
>>> I like exposing him(?) for what he(?) is.
>>
>> You've exposed nothing but your own inadequacy.
>
>Being rude about John Larkin is shooting fish in a barrel, but he does
>advance a lot of popular fallacies, and gives the rest of us the chance
>to be rude about them.

Stupid insults only advertise the stupidity of the author. You savor
every "chance to be rude."

We could have interesting conversations, and even professional
interaction, if you didn't have such a compulsion to insult.

We have an interesting magnetics problem that we were just
brainstorming.

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Subject: Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors,
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by: Bill Sloman - Sat, 6 Apr 2024 05:58 UTC

On 6/04/2024 4:25 am, john larkin wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 16:12:11 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
>> On 5/04/2024 10:40 am, Jack Carlson wrote:
>>> On 4/4/2024 2:28 PM, jim whitby wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 09:01:29 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 03:57:30 +0200, jim whitby <mr.spock@spockmnail.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 15:31:40 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 4/3/2024 1:59 PM, jim whitby wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Apr 2024 13:20:42 -0700, Jack Carlson wrote:

<snip>

>>>>> I don't know why they post to s.e.d., given they have no interest in
>>>>> electronics.
>>>>
>>>> I like exposing him(?) for what he(?) is.
>>>
>>> You've exposed nothing but your own inadequacy.
>>
>> Being rude about John Larkin is shooting fish in a barrel, but he does
>> advance a lot of popular fallacies, and gives the rest of us the chance
>> to be rude about them.
>
> Stupid insults only advertise the stupidity of the author. You savor
> every "chance to be rude."

Far from it. I produce intelligent - and necessarily abrasive -
responses to your stupid posts, which you'd prefer that I admired.

> We could have interesting conversations, and even professional
> interaction, if you didn't have such a compulsion to insult.

Perhaps we could, if you didn't have such an inflated idea of your own
competence.

> We have an interesting magnetics problem that we were just brainstorming.

Do tell. Anybody who talks about "leakage inductance" doesn't have a lot
of insight into how transformers work, and your "interesting problem"
may be less interesting than you think.

I'd be happy to talk about it privately, if you can't post it here.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Subject	Author
Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems	Bill Sloman
Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems	john larkin
Re: China: Government Starts Phasing Out American Processors, Operating Systems	Bill Sloman